Cleaning out my office and ran across my Monster Beverage $MNST (then Hansen Natural Corp. $HANS) 1-page pitch I used while interviewing in BSchool (Oct, 2008). If only all my picks worked so well! 🤣
$6049.T Itokuro is a Japanese microcap ($45M USD mkt cap) trading below cash minus all liabilities, is growing, profitable, and just raised guidance. Downside appears limited while upside is potentially very substantial.
$CNS.MI Civitanavi is an Italian microcap ($125M USD mkt cap) technology provider to the A&D industry with strong growth (+63% 10 yr sales CAGR), mid-20s ROEs, high inside ownership, net-cash B/S and attractive valuation (10x EV/ttm EBIT, 13x ttm P/E ex-cash) - multibagger pot'l
A few tidbits from Constellation's $CSU / $CSU.TO filings:
1) Altera improving: Altera actually grew +4% organically in 4Q and finished the year at -5% organic. Recall this was a quickly declining business when CSU acquired it in May 2022. Too early to call a turn but promising
Just realized it's been >10 years since my first purchase of Constellation Software $CSU / $CSU.TO Doubt the next 10 will be as fruitful as the first but I've learned a ton along the way. Big thanks to ML, PB & DJ
On Sygnity $SGN / $SGN.WA for their recent acquisition of Edrana Baltic, it looks like the acq'n was done at 0.95x P/Sales (sales +21% yoy) and probably had some cash included. Also 8.6x earnings. Pretty much what you would expect from a $CSU child
Teqnion $TEQ / $TEQ.ST reported 4Q23 results this morning. See
@alexeliasson
post (below) for high level results. A few other details:
1) 2023 had some non-recurring costs while '22 was boosted by some non-recurring items - if you wish to "normalize" these:
CEL Corp $5078.T the Japanese net-net / cash-net reported FY1Q24 results recently (July 14th) that look more like a growth company (sales +47% yoy, op profit +211% yoy) than a company trading below cash minus all liabilities. Additionally, their guide seems very conservative
Japanese cash-net CEL Corp ($5078.T) reported FY2Q24 results last night and raised their FY2/24 guidance by +9% on sales & +24% on EPS. Cash continues to build and the stock remains very cheap with no catalyst: 5,303 cash/sh vs. 2,913 stock price, 0.5x P/TBV & <12x P/E
Not to take anything away from $CSU.TO but I suspect a lot of the recent organic growth acceleration has to do with how they structure the majority of their contracts to have CPI pass throughs
Teqnion ($TEQ.ST) 3Q23 results were even better than headline numbers suggest. 2 tidbits from their reports:
1) TEQ had 3M SEK of costs running through their I/S from a revaluation of the contingent purchase price for acquisitions (basically acq'ns doing better than planned):
$5078.T Cel Corp Japanese net-net recently (April 14th) reported FY2/23 results so just wanted to update my valuation for results. Please see
@gw_investing
's write-up for an in-depth biz analysis - still one of the statistically cheapest cash-nets out there:
Tiny special situation for those that have access to the expert market:
SeaChange $SEAC trading at $5.10 vs. $8.71/share of cash & limited liabilities after asset sale; also has $131M (~$51/sh) of federal NOLs.
@InvestSpecial
@DarkfireCapital
@TreyHenninger
@eriksen_tim
Friendly reminder that the Constellation Software $CSU / $CSU.TO annual shareholder meeting is tomorrow (Monday, May 13th) morning, 9am ET. Looking forward to hearing a blank screen (ML) talk again 🤣
$CNS.MI Civitanavi announced today that Honeywell $HON will acquire CNS for €6.30/sh in cash vs. the €3.72/sh price at the time of my post ~7 months ago. Equates to 15.4x EV/ttm EBIT which I personally think is still way too cheap.
$CNS.MI Civitanavi is an Italian microcap ($125M USD mkt cap) technology provider to the A&D industry with strong growth (+63% 10 yr sales CAGR), mid-20s ROEs, high inside ownership, net-cash B/S and attractive valuation (10x EV/ttm EBIT, 13x ttm P/E ex-cash) - multibagger pot'l
Thank you
@Sugrorsmannen
and
@CXODanielZ
for changing Teqnion’s $TEQ / $TEQ.ST reporting language to English. Hopefully helps a few more international companies join the group! Just when I was starting to get a hang of Swedish too 😁 Tack!
@InaTailHedged
Excellent PM I used to work with: there are “slow moving” valuation metrics like P/B and “fast-moving” valuation metrics like P/E. For cyclical companies generally using slow-moving metrics is best while for more stable companies earnings/FCF-based metrics are best
What are some small cap names whose main asset is a unique database?
Examples:
$3901.T MarkLines (auto)
$RTH.AX RAS Technology (horseracing)
$INOV Inovalon (health outcomes) - before it got acquired
I’ve only talked to one company mgmt. team that has said $CSU outbid them on an acquisition (it was on a tiny legacy Icelandic CRM software business). They really do play a different game.
In terms of valuation, if I subtract out the value of the $TOI & $LMN holdings from CSU's EV (and only use CSU's sales & EBITA) I get valuation at 7.6x EV/S, 32.1x EV/EBITA and 37.9x adj. Market Cap to FCFA2S - actually the lowest multiples of the "CSU family"
Kind of ironic that $TPL is +24% today on being included in the S&P MidCap 400 since it’s a very large holding of Murray Stahl’s Horizon Kinetics. Murray has talked at length about many of the irrational things about indexes. Glad to see he’s benefiting from it this time!
I would like to introduce one of the Japanese small-cap companies that I purchased last month.
At first, I have one simple question. Can non-Japanese people buy individual Japanese stocks in your home country?
Does my introduction to Japanese small-cap stocks make sense? 🙄🙄
Valuation: $TEQ trades at 27x EV/2023 EBITA or 26.3x if you use my "normalized" number above. Definitely not "cheap" so IMHO you have to have a view on how much capital they can deploy and at what returns going forward.
$6049.T Itokuro reported 3Q23 results AMC on Friday & raised 2023 op. profit (again) - this time by +50% (better advertising costs). With the stock +33% since June it's no longer a cash-net but it still trades at a negative EV and just below TBV.
$6049.T Itokuro is a Japanese microcap ($45M USD mkt cap) trading below cash minus all liabilities, is growing, profitable, and just raised guidance. Downside appears limited while upside is potentially very substantial.
What are some companies buying back shares below book value? Ideally with a history of growing BV/sh at a healthy level.
I'll go first: $FFH.TO / $FRFHF and $TOT.TO / $TOTZF
Hurco $HURC now at ~62% of TBV with 28% of market cap in cash (no debt) and decent history of growing TBV (though not the last few years). 3% div yield. A few folks might be interested:
@chasericker3
@benbakhshi
@CapitalShipyard
Pretty much every successful investor that experiences a modicum of success ends up developing a strong filter for the type of idea that made them money.
This is also one of the most common ways investors with good ~10+ yr of good track record end up being mediocre (or worse).
@Larryjamieson_
The “Swedish Constellation Software”. Unfortunately they’re paying up a lot more for acquisitions (lower returns) than they used to, don’t have much of an internal M&A team (use brokers) and accounting is less conservative (they capitalize whereas CSU expenses everything)
Bad management is a no-go. Doesn't matter how cheap, or that "anybody could run this business". They will find ways to hurt you with unbounded creativity
@LogicalThesis
I’d push back a bit on this. When one buys stock they’re buying the claims on the equity, not the EV so P/E or P/FCF is ok most times. That said, debt is more senior on the capital stack so if the company is shrinking the debt holders needs to get paid first so EV metrics better
@FundasyInvestor
FYI: quant studies have shown self-relative valuation (i.e. current multiple vs. it’s own trading history) is almost information-less (not a good predictor of future returns) while market-relative valuation (i.e. current multiple relative to the market’s multiple) is much better
Friendly reminder that the Constellation Software $CSU / $CSU.TO annual shareholder meeting is tomorrow (Monday, May 13th) morning, 9am ET. Looking forward to hearing a blank screen (ML) talk again 🤣
Big money can be made going from horrible to just bad. Another really cheap (0.35x P/B) Japanese stock $1827 Nakano Corp gets a big boost (+17% today) after mgmt says they are "conscious of capital costs and stock prices".
2) Continuing the Altera theme, cash flows & returns seem strong: Altera generated $94M of FCFA2S in 2023 vs. $700M purchase price. $276M of debt at Altera so $424M of equity = 22% "cash ROE" (or more like 35% if you back out the $158M in cash)
$CNS.MI Civitanavi is an Italian microcap ($125M USD mkt cap) technology provider to the A&D industry with strong growth (+63% 10 yr sales CAGR), mid-20s ROEs, high inside ownership, net-cash B/S and attractive valuation (10x EV/ttm EBIT, 13x ttm P/E ex-cash) - multibagger pot'l
@evfcfaddict
I believe 6 projects account for ~83% of $DUR.AX's revenues. I'm not sure how the contracts are structured (e.g. fixed-cost vs. cost-plus) but if they're fixed-cost and one goes wrong that can be a disaster. No idea if that's the case, just an observation
Whenever I’ve asked successful investors that have been investing for a long time what’s changed in their process over time all have said they place more importance on management… stuff like this makes me understand why!
$ERD board knock back $1.30 takeover offer back in June which "materially undervalued" the business, then proceeds with a 50% dilutionary raise at 70c...🤨
@CompTortoise
@CJ0pp3l
@ReturnsJourney
My favorite Lifco slide is the one showing the revenue contributions of acquisitions by year, e.g. aggregate revenue of all the acquisitions in 2018 when they acquired them vs aggregate revenue now. Shows that they add value post-acquisition. Wish more would do that
On Cake Box $CBOX.L the (cheap) UK-based cake retailer, they announced FY1H24 results today that were reasonably good (LFL +6% & profits up yoy) but I don't understand how total revenues are expected to be just +6% when LFL is +6% and they have +9% more stores - anyone?
For those that follow the B&B set of serial acquirers, the Return on Working Capital (EBITA/WC) of these acquisitions also looks extremely healthy at >300%! (I'm not including the cash in WC) Good proxy for business quality.
2) The main item that was concerning to me was declining return metrics (ROCE & ROE) with ROCE going from 23% in '22 to 18% in '23. For me, it's all about what return they can get on incremental capital deployed. Are they paying more for acquisitions? Or worse acq'ns? However...
If a company’s new CEO has an engineering degree - especially if in math or physics - this is a big plus for me. Correlates to a more rational thought process. Example: $CBTT-B.ST
Half the Outsiders were under 40
Half had engineering degrees
All were first-time CEOs
While these traits don’t mean much in isolation, together they dramatically increase the odds the CEO isn’t shackled by the Institutional Imperative.
Interesting study from Bain on M&A
“Companies that were frequent acquirers earned 130% higher shareholder returns vs. those that stayed out of the market. Sitting on the M&A sideline is generally a losing strategy.”
5) On the negative side of things impairments were $22M in 4Q and $26M in 2023 - much higher than in any other prior period. Somewhat to be expected with the ramp in M&A & decentralization of M&A but something to keep an eye on.
On Kingsway Financial Services $KFS anyone understand valuation? Doesn't make sense to me: ttm heavily-adjusted EBITDA of ~$9M & $4.6M of interest expense (1Q annualized); even w/ minimal capex & taxes that's still only $4.5M of FCF vs. $225M mkt cap & $260M EV??
@hcapinvesting
I would imagine this isn’t really an organic growth “story”. I’d expect $LMN.V to probably have the lowest organic growth of the 3 (CSU, TOI & LMN) but the highest overall (percentage) growth over the next ~10 years
The way I interpreted that (and others can definitely have different interpretations): the poor organic results in 4Q & 2023 were more associated with the lower-quality, more cyclical/economically sensitive subsidiaries that TEQ acquired pre-IPO (the ones they could afford then)
@tk_financial
Industry consolidation (fragmented ==> Eastern/Western duopolies) & mgmt change focusing on price over volume. If you have access Wolfe Research has great industry historical data & info
On TeamSpirit $4397.T (HCM SaaS name at 1x EV/S) does anyone know why their gross margins are ~37%? Seems like it’s mostly software (90%+ recurring) so I would have expected closer to kaonavi’s $4445.T 77% GMs?
@willschoebs
@TeddyOkuyama
Risks include: 1) limited recurring revenue - mostly new systems with limited parts/service, 2) customer concentration with top 1, 5 & 10 at 29%, 66%, & 79% of sales (2021 data - likely a bit less now)
we can see from their footnote 5 disclosure the price paid and EBITA of acquisitions in 2023: 206.3M SEK purchase price (78.8 of which is deferred) for 3 acquisitions that pro-forma generated 35M of EBITA in 2023 which works out to 5.9x Price/EBITA
@PythiaR
Sweden has a bunch: ADDT, LAGR, VOLO, MMGR, TEQ probably top tier in terms of quality and INDT, BEIJ, BRAV, ANOD, NCAB, INSTAL, BUFAB all worth mentioning
The CSU family: CSU, TOI, LMN, SGN
Others: SITE, , BEWI.OL, JDG.L, , TNOM.HE
Did a study once looking at corporate name changes. TL;DR: corporate name changes = really bad for future stock performance (defined as 12 mo relative return for those companies that changed their name). See, e.g. Facebook -> Meta (Oct 29, 2021)
Foresta $FGH.AX annual report says one of its "most exciting developments" in the past year was that "the company name has changed officially". Value creation at its finest.
$TEQ meeting:
+ Refinance is coming in better terms
+ Backlog is high and new acquired companies do not tend to have backlog so even higher
+ Pipeline full
+ House building companies only represent 5% of the revenues in the Q
+ Stanwell is extremely stable, Schill growing a lot
3) Optimal Blue (carve out from ICE/BKI) generated $187M in sales in 2023 ($8,541 pf - $8,407 actual + $53 '23 contribution). It was estimated to do ~$211M in 2022 but actually held up better than I thought it would (mortgage origination software; originations down -45% in '23)
Scenario analysis below as well which shows the positively skewed risk/reward at current levels - imho not unreasonable to see a doubling of EPS and a doubling of the multiple in 3 years!
Cleaning out my office and ran across my Monster Beverage $MNST (then Hansen Natural Corp. $HANS) 1-page pitch I used while interviewing in BSchool (Oct, 2008). If only all my picks worked so well! 🤣
@_inpractise
Last conference call I asked why they (TEQ) allocate so much to goodwill instead of intangibles for purchase price accounting - see 41:15 here:
@retaox
1) Exchanges ($CME, $ICE, $NDAQ): volumes go up as volatility increases
2) 4imprint $FOUR.L, while cyclical, does a good job gaining market share in downturns w/ a big cash B/S & invests in downturns as others pull back e.g. no layoffs during Covid
@hurdle_rate
I generally do a "what needs to happen to get a good IRR" calculation. In this case, 5 years out what's a realistic revenue and mature margin profile and multiple. Does that get you your hurdle rate? Obviously also realize "30%+" growth for 5-10 yrs is very rare!
New one out, and trying out a new format!
Wrote a condensed version of an investment idea rather than a deep-dive like for $7115.JP
This time I'm discussing a micro-cap that looks abit like Appfolio $APPF, a sticky SaaS solution for the property management industry that is
@pygmy_hem
Thanks for the idea - sounds interesting! Yes, US retail investors can purchase individual Japanese stocks through brokers like IBKR and Fidelity
4) $49M bargain purchase gain on an acquisition in 3Q23 - will lose money the first yr & lower margins the next 2 but I expect the IRR at that purchase price has to be very healthy & CSU one of the few with operational chops to do something like this
Bad debt write-down was all in 4Q23 - 2.5M from 2 housing developers that went bankrupt and another 1M from a "a large industrial customer in Europe [that] went bankrupt". Not saying these aren't real costs (and TEQ should be better at managing receivables) but also not "normal"
@hurdle_rate
I would bet that’s the case as well. Though I’d also say sticky software is likely one of the better places to be in an inflationary environment as many of their costs typically don’t increase as much as inflation
However, that 206.3M purchase price also includes 42.7M of cash so 163.6M EV and 4.7x EV/EBITA!
This suggests they aren't "paying up" for acquisitions (at least the 2023 batch)
@chasericker3
What are mgmt’s incentives/ownership? I’ve seen a lot of companies that *could* have avoided bankruptcy but chose to go into it because they got more equity in a post-reorg
@eyesigh557
@Investmentideen
FWIW a big chunk of SGN's current FCF is from improving working capital and a tax-related item in the transition quarter - I wouldn't consider either sustainable. More like 3.5-4% "normalized"