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Dioscoros
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@apologia_lazar No, Miaphysis came from St Dionysius the Areopagite in the 2nd century. The Arians had in common with the Orthodox that Christ has mia physis, which is why St Jerome explained that the only difference with Arian Christology is on the homoousios doctrine, not that we believe
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"If anyone says that it was his phantom that ascended the cross, and that it was not He Himself who was nailed, and is ashamed of the passion of the Son which took place for our salvation, let him be anathema like the Moslems." - St Giyorgis of Ethiopia, Fekkare Haymanot
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3 months
Breaking: the “viral” priest Domadius has been suspended from his priestly position by Pope Tawadros and the synod and ordered to attend spiritual seclusion in a monastery and delete social media after he offered a sacrifice for people on the Islamic Eid which is unacceptable
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The more they say this, the more they discredit themselves. ROCORism in a nutshell: a nutcase. To think that you get to correct the Holy Fathers of the 3 Ecumenical Councils, spit on their Christology, anathematize their Christology, follow Nestorius and Leo, and then dare to
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Father Moses McPherson
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St. Paisios said, “So many divinely enlightened holy fathers who were there at the time didn’t understand them, took them the wrong way, and now we come along after so many centuries to correct the holy fathers? And they don’t take the miracle of Saint Euphemia into account?
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Dioscoros
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May God strike down from the high places those who dared to mock the life-giving supper of Christ's incorruptible flesh.
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SUS Copts
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Statement Regarding the Olympics Ceremony from the Coptic Orthodox Bishops of North America
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@TaylorRMarshall Depends who you ask among you. If you ask Constantinople 553, it anathematizes anyone who worships 2 natures, hence Columbanus wrote against said council. If you ask Theodore the Studite, he will say that the worship is in fact directed to the 2 natures. The obvious dilemma is
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Dioscoros
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Chalcedonians, please make sure you understand your authorities instead of pretending to defend their stance, especially if your interlocutor is actually familiar with what your authorities teach. I'm not accusing Chalcedonians as a group, but I've noticed an odd ball:
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Dioscoros
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I've stated before that one of the problems with the heretics claiming St Cyril as their own is that they'd have to also claim Eutyches and St Severus as Dyophysite due to their acceptance of 2 natures before recognition of the union. But, perhaps it would be more important...
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Jekabadels ✙
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I must say without much doubt in my mind, as a Chalcedonian, and indeed as a dyophysite, one of my absolute favourite dyophysite saints is St. Cyril of Alexandria. How about yours?
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@redeemed_zoomer We don't care about the language, we care about the concepts he brings forth as positively Miaphysite and anti Dyophysite:
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Dioscoros
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@jnorm88846433 @CatholicWe8518 Thank you for your thoughts. However, the idea of being a "Cyrillian Chalcedonian" is no more reconcilable than being a "Nicene Arian." We can't just take part of what St Cyril says, reject other parts, and profess to be "Cyrillian." For instance, St Cyril affirms as necessary
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Dioscoros
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Dang, this guy is basically admitting that the 2 of the top OO Holy Fathers are the best theologians in history. After his debate with @CCyrillian that cemented the fact that no forms of Chalcedonianism are compatible with Orthodoxy/Ephesus, it looks like he might be seriously
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Redeemed Zoomer
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Theologians bracket
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Dioscoros
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@ZZZELCH84 Heresy has been around since the 1st century. You think that the filioque has been around that long, and that it took your denomination close to a millennium to condemn it?
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@NewsNFTU @hypatiusbrontes Sure, that's acceptable if you list them as Nicaea, Constantinople, Ephesus 1, Ephesus 2, Ephesus 3, Henotikon, Addis Ababa.
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Dioscoros
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Unlike the ethnicities that have rejected the Faith of the 3 Holy Councils, the ethnicities of the Universal Church of Christ (Armenians, Copts, Suroye, Indians, and Abyssinians) are defined on the basis of membership in the Orthodox (Ⲟriental) Church. In other words, to stop
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Grant Hillman 🇺🇸🇦🇲
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Interesting bit here from Catholicos Coadjutor Papken I of Cilicia - he prefers simply "the Armenian Church" and similar titles. Why? Because there is only one 🇦🇲 church, any others are imitations. I feel vindicated by the editor's note, btw. "Apostolic Orthodox" usage gang.
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I'd love to see Dr Ortlund do this as well. @DanielKakish and all of us from The Lion's Den will be more than happy to interact with his reasonings against our interpretation of Ephesus 431. Pending still is an in-depth analysis of the condemnations of the entire genus of
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IFFMEISTER
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I think @gavinortlund should do a video on Ephesus because if OO reading of Ephesus is correct that would probably mean they are the true church. I'd love to see him interact w OO stuff and vice versa i think that's not been acknowledged by evangelicals as much
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@Nektarios01_ To be Orthodox necessitates that heretics such as yourself reject our Faith taught by the 3 Holy Councils. Thank you for reminding everyone that God is with us and not with your synagogue, which has neither grace nor the sacraments, but only has the perdition of Korah. May God
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@BonifaceXP Well, since you are Dwane Johnson, show me where your past magisterium has even ATTEMPTED to deal with the Homilies of St Theodotus and the Third Letter to Nestorius (all part of Ephesus 431). Note that I'm not even asking you to provide a good exegesis, but just that there was
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Dioscoros
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The heretics love to slander the Orthodox (Oriental) Church. They love to lie and steal on what history and tradition have passed to us. That is because they know they are wrong, and (like Satan) refuse to repent, thinking themselves to be justified in their perdition:
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David George
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Malankara (Indian) Orthodoxy and Chalcedon: A Response to Dr. David Ford (Ancient Faith Radio)
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Dioscoros
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@jacfalcon One has to first understand what would delimit any person's faith from the Ephesian (Miaphysite) Faith. If the standard that you believe disqualifies our Faith is that Christ is composed out of a duality, then you have inadvertently used common ground between both sides of the
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@NewsNFTU The terms aren't important. The meaning is. Orthodox (Oriental) Christians believe, following St Cyril of Alexandria and Ephesus 431, that the union of 2 x's (and St Cyril calls the x's "natures, that is, hypostases"), there results one-and-only x out of the 2 x's: "For if the
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4 months
Such an ornate spoon and custumes for such worthless bread.
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AXIA AXIA AXIA Mother Deaconess Angelic Molen, ordained by His Eminence, Metropolitan Serafim of Zimbabwe; Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Alexandria and All Africa Glory to God in the Highest.
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Imagine having such a fragile communion so pervious to many heresies that you need to set a day aside to make sure everyone knows that Atheism is formally rejected. No wonder you guys split up into Roman Catholics, Old Believers, Protestants, and True Orthodox. Our anathemas
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@PhiloxenusS @TurribleIvan Our church liturgically anathematized atheism today, did yours?
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@jacfalcon And what St Cyril means by "hypostatic union" is specifically a union of hypostases, meaning that if the parts remain 2, that they remain 2 hypostases: "And since he [Theodoret] said the form of God took up the form of a servant, let him come forward and explain whether the
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Dioscoros
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@DanielKakish @redeemed_zoomer We do not accept a personal guilt as if we committed the sin as individuals, we only accept a corporate "guilt" which is the result of the sin entering creation - this is cause of the blameworthy passions, and the corruptibility of the flesh.
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Dioscoros
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Blessed Feast of the Resurrection to all. Let's ponder on what it means for God to offer us forgiveness, and how His Resurrection establishes this for us: "For we profess that he who died for our sake was not mortal, beloved ones of God. For, through the death of a mortal,
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@sers_diary Satan has many ways of making Christianity (that is, the Oriental Orthodox Church) weaker, and one of those ways is by creating the false perception that the Chalcedonians constitute a "church" with "sacraments." As a matter of fact, they are not a church, but an assembly, and
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@Levis_Momm @LSKatholikos @TaylorRMarshall The fitting analogy is a human nature being composed of 2 natures, yet existing as 1 composite nature. This is what St Cyril explains in the Council of Ephesus 431:
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Dioscoros
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I was listening to the Ancient Faith Radio presentation on women's roles/deaconesses in their denomination. At one point, Dr Eugenia (Jeannie) Constantinou addressed the point that the Lord Jesus Christ did not ordain women as priests/bishops when He chose His holy apostles.
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@IFFFMEISTER The best argument for baptismal regeneration, IMHO, is Ephesians 2 paralleled with Colossians 2, where St Paul uses the same 5 phrasal sentences when talking about the same thing (explicitly in Col 2 as baptism). Then, to bolster it, later on in Ephesians 4, St Paul says there
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Keep this in mind; if there is a controversy, and on one side of the controversy are the Christians and those who profess to be Christians, and on the other hand are the sodomites and the transvestites: be very weary of those who side with the sodomites and the transvestites.
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@AngloVarangian @TurribleIvan 1) Nestorian Christology is defined as "two natures after the union"/"bringing in the parts." That's what St Acacius says, and what St Cyril accepted from him. Dyophysitism is blanketly anathematized in Ephesus 431 and the events thereabouts. 2) You're accusing St Cyril and
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@Trent_Horn @JeffCassman Pius X is speaking about a common theological description, as far as "one true God" goes. He doesn't believe Mohammedans believe in the one true God. Christians and Muslims both believe that the last of scripture has already come. This is an abstract belief, but particularly
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Dioscoros
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WLC holds a very similar heresy to Maximus at the end of the day, because he makes the same division between the willing of the Father and the willing of Christ when he enumerates 2 actuating wills in Gethsemane along with Maximus. If either WLC or Max wanted to know what the
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Reasonable Faith
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As a Protestant who believes that Scripture alone is our ultimate and final authority, I think even the statements of ecumenical councils have to be brought before Scripture, and I see nothing in Scripture that warrants saying that Christ has two wills.
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@DanielKakish @ErickYbarra3 @PhiloxenusS @CCyrillian Ultimately, @ErickYbarra3 , we would make the following observations on Augustine: 1) His Christology is not opposed to what Theodore of Mopsuestia taught. Now, if one comes into the conversation with the idea that Theodore fits into a Christologically orthodox framework, then
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Dioscoros
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@CopticAnswers Thank you for this important video Abouna. I think it just goes to show that we must love the Melkites (EOs) not by indifference, but by showing them that they need to join Christ's "one only holy universal apostolic Church" - the Orthodox (Oriental) Church. God's will be done.
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Dioscoros
6 months
One morsel of the Orthodox population in Egypt has more miracles and grace than the entirety of this guy's sect. Then again, 0 is an easy number to beat. Especially when Ephesus 431 anathematizes these Dyophysite heretics.
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George ☦️
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Monophysites will say Rome fell in 476 because muh Chalcedon and then literally live in modern-day Egypt
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@IFFFMEISTER @PhilAthanasius @DanielKakish That's like saying "the Athanasian interpretation of John 1:1 makes sense, but someone could read it in a JW way." That's not the point, my good Iffy. The point is that within the boundaries of reason, and of not redefining and abstracting away the meaning of language to
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@IFFFMEISTER St Mary loves the Coptic Orthodox Church very much. All of our saints and many holy priests talk to her all the time. Any parish that you go to, the elderly either have seen St Mary at Zeitoun or have some family who saw her. One of our recent saints saw St Mary, and she said
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Dioscoros
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This Nestorian, Methodius (Meth from here-on), got embarrassed by @CCyrillian regarding how inconsistent his tradition's dogmatizations are. The heretic then persisted in going back to this irrelevant post he made. iKan rightly didn't indulge in his deflection, and so I will
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Dioscoros
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They tried the exact same thing with St Theodosius, Pope of Alexandria. After the defiled Justinian had ceased to accept his true papacy, Justinian offered him not only their pathetic sect, but also the governorship over all of Egypt. St Theodosius responded the same way as HH.
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Caroline 🇪🇬🇦🇲
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Always delivered the best response, even when he was getting bribed. Remember us before the Throne your holiness 🙏🏼
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@IacobRuthenicus Hey, can you blame us when it's such an easy target?
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Habibi, I don't know what you're talking about, we haven't even started.
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The Tahrir Institute for Middle East Policy
6 months
🌈 NEW: Egypt's many religious institutions play a significant role in intensifying anti-LGBTQ+ sentiment & hate speech, but the Coptic church's role in bolstering the state’s anti-queer agenda is often overlooked, Sarah Hegazi fellow @NoraNoralla writes.
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Transubstantiation only makes sense in an OO Christological framework. If bread/wine transform into the (primary) substance of Christ, then Christ is 1 out of 2 but no more 2. In Dyophysitism, they must hold that physical bread/wine only turns into the substance of flesh. (1/2)
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Solid Kvas🔥
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Sysoev accuses anyone who doesn't hold to the straigth up Roman dogma of participating in the mechanism of heresy Fr Rose's position is included there, yet criticised overdone claims of latin captivity Proof latin captivity is real and has degrees to it
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@LatinAcolyte Yeah there is actually. For you that group would be the Presiding Saints over Ephesus 431: Sts Cyril, Theodotus of Ancyra, and Acacius of Melitene, who all refuted your beliefs way better than their measly servants. They anathematized all of Dyophysitism See the attached (1/2)
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@SecretFire79 Protestantism is affirming that Christ is 2 natures/constituents after the union. The Protest is manifestly against Ephesus 431:
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Dioscoros
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Do we even want Sinai to become a monastery? What would the exorcism process have to be? How could we obtain that Nestorian structure without accepting the Nestorian mosque that they built therein? These are the relevant questions at hand.
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Dioscoros
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To the Chalcedonians who appreciate Dumitru Staniloae, take note of the implications of his following statement regarding the 2 natures which compose Christ: "...in reality one cannot be separated or even distinguished from the other." - The Experience of God, vol. 3, page 47
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@IFFFMEISTER @DanielKakish Yes. A very thorough explanation by St Cyril on this below:
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Dioscoros
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@GNarodnik59684 Friend, there is no second guessing Chalcedon once you've seen what was taught at Nicaea and Ephesus, and what Leo taught following Theodore of Mopsuestia. For the Chalcedonian, however, he has to constantly tell himself to ignore what Sts Cyril, Theodotus, and Acacius said.
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@ThomasSujit Father, here are my thoughts: The scriptures say that we are to uphold the traditions of the Church, whether written or by word of mouth. The Church interprets this to mean that the precedent of the Holy Fathers is an apt example for us. But the Holy Fathers of the "golden
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Dioscoros
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@CopticBro Nice joke. "But after they [the dyophysites] had blasphemed [at the council of Chalcedon] and torn the true faith and gone out of the sheepfold of life, they were excommunicated and rejected. The Holy Spirit did not remain with them but [instead] a spirit of error and of Satan.
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@aploseinai @PhiloxenusS @JahiliyaEnjoyer @ARealWildCat @OO18073712 You're assuming that difference entails division. St Cyril says that 1 nature of a man still has heterogeneity in it, despite being 1 nature of a man. You're assuming that species are composed of other species when in fact St Cyril's use of the analogy utilizes it as a
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@PhilAthanasius I'm still waiting for his newest work "The Dyophysite Christology of Eutyches of Constantinople" where Eutyches states that he speaks "of two natures before [his recognition of] the union."
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Dioscoros
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@RightHegelian St Cyril is rejecting that the Word ceases being Word and thereby becomes solely a man, which is what "change" is getting at and thus being rejected. St Athanasius says the same as St Cyril in his Books Against Apollinaris: "For the Lord exhibited flesh and blood, and bones,
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@JengaJay10 The term "deaconess" isn't univocal. That's why Subdcn Daniel is able to get the point across that the Melkites "ordained a deaconess," and it is clear from the picture that the context includes "such that she's giving what they pretend is the Eucharist to their people."
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@aploseinai @PhiloxenusS @JahiliyaEnjoyer @ARealWildCat @OO18073712 You don't believe that a human person has 2 discretely counted natures, though. That's why you do not count 3 natures in Christ, accusing both those who count 2 natures and those who count 1 nature as confusing flesh and soul. This is because we both have the metaphysical
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@maksimologija Thanks for these resources. Good to have these on hand contra the modern day Pelagian sympathizers. Is Irenei the same one who caused that UK debacle with the Uniate who converted and was received by vesting?
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@gregpt_ortho That's a very good question, because it cuts to the heart of our disagreement about willing. The Maximianists would retort to the Chalcedonian monothelites (who rightly knew that willing was proper to agency) that willing is "natural," and that therefore 2 numerically divided
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@IFFFMEISTER I have explained to you multiple times how 2 things can become 1 composite thing. Now, where on Earth did I say to you that the category of "virtual distinction" applies? What I have said, and what I continue to say, is that the same sort of distinctions that apply to the
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Dioscoros
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and here the Orthodox brought up the aforementioned Letter to St Acacius and also the Letter to Eulogius. Justinian allowed the latter to be read, but did not allow them to continue by reading the former. This caused quite an embarrassment for the Chalcedonian delegation...
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@IacobRuthenicus St Acacius: Hey Cyril, let's force everyone to especially anathematize 2 natures after the union, those who bring in the parts. St Cyril: Love it. BTW, I just wanted to add that Christ has only 1 nature since the union abolished all duality. Cathy Newman: So, you're Dyophysite?
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@10Kidus @apologia_lazar On the contrary, his side has no better argument - and his argument cuts to the heart of the fact that the only way for someone to defend Dyophysis is for them to simultaneously defend Nestorius (which is where he got his point from - it's THE major point that scholars use to
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@IFFFMEISTER 1: That Ecumenical Councils are completely reformable. 2: That (following #1 ), Ephesus must be reformed to Chalcedonianism. 3: That metaphysical positions regarding the Trinity and Incarnation are not matters of dogma, but rather matters of opinion to enough of an extent to
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@JosephJuli5882 That isn't the Eucharist, it's the blessed bread which is given out after communion.
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@iansenius @IFFFMEISTER @grevstv That's what we say too. We say that He didn't suffer in his own (merely divine) nature, but in his composite theandric nature. St Cyril explicitly says that those who try affirm Dyophysitism as justified from it are Nestorian heretics:
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@IacobRuthenicus @fatherthomasbjj Yes, but Christ is not a common nature, nor is He composed of two commonalities. It is the case with composite natures that they are composed of 2 particular natures, since only particulars can compose the particular. That is why the 1 nature of a man is composed of 2, a
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Dioscoros
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who was infamous for venerating Nestorius and defending Nestorius as "orthodox." Nephalius and Macedonius were careful to not disseminate the work too much in fear of St Severus, but to no avail. When St Severus got hold of the work, he refuted it by writing The Philalethes.
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I also recommend focusing on dogmatic theology, Fr Justin. If you look into Ephesus 431, you'll see that it anathematizes your false religion, and it strips you of any ability to claim priesthood for yourself. Our infants who are baptized into Orthodoxy have more priesthood
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Dioscoros
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Chalcedonian interpretation of St Cyril, with Nephalius being the filler of the rest. If you're Chalcedonian, you don't actually mean the 5th century St Cyril when you name him. You mean the post-Chalcedon Nephalius and Leontius, accursed by God, who justified you in perdition.
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@thorem_hal I profess the orthodox faith and I confess the Holy Trinity: the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit; and the incarnation of Christ our God; and I anathematize all the ranks of heretics; Arius, Macedon, and Nestor, and all the ranks of Diophysites. - Rite of the Calling to the
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@TurribleIvan Dude, you have no right to be complaining about AHOS when you peddle that forth. AHOS is bad, but that fake story of St Euphemia is Paisios-level stupid (literally). Ephesus 431 anathematized your false Christology. Deal with it or judgement day will deal with you. Oh, and
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@ProgressiveCopt Greeks are Chalcedonian heretics, not Orthodox. Only Oriental Orthodox follow the Orthodoxy of the 3 Holy Councils.
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@buffalodox @PhiloxenusS @LatinAcolyte @Arcadian1485 You're nestorians, it's imperative for your religion to not take an orthodox seriously.
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to detail exactly what the history of how Chalcedonians have sought to interpret St Cyril is. In Chalcedon, Basil of Seleucia brings up how Letter 40 to St Acacius speaks of how one must not accept that there are 2 natures after the union of 2 natures, but only one nature:
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To @GrantJHillman 's point a long time ago, Chalcedonianism certainly is developing into a self-help religion (look at the spinal fluid nonsense, it's at face value almost like Mohammedanism). They, just like the Rabbinics, have sought an excuse to mute the word of God and the
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A few bangers from a mere 5 minutes spent perusing Montanist Ethos’ newest book, “The Orthodox Patristic Witness Concerning Catholicism.” I don’t think I need to even bother naming the author of these particular excerpts.
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@aploseinai @PhiloxenusS @JahiliyaEnjoyer @ARealWildCat @OO18073712 BONUS, St Cyril says it very clearly: "For if the union [of both] is genuine [true], there are certainly not two in any way, but one and sole from both is Christ understood." (below) "The one and only Christ is not twofold even though He is contemplated as out of two." (below)
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@redeemed_zoomer Orthodoxy (Oriental) alone professes a true incarnation, according to the Councils of Nicaea and Ephesus. Those councils were correct about proper metaphysics. So even if branch theory were true (which it isn't), only Orthodoxy would be able to count as within the Church.
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@attiladakilla To those who have rejected the gospel proclaimed at the Third Ecumenical Council, I'm sure it would sound crazy to such a one. That's because Ephesus 431 anathematized all Dyophysites by the Holy Spirit:
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@IFFFMEISTER The parts/natures of which Christ is composed remain qualitatively distinct, while not remaining numerically distinct. There are 2 types of distinction at play: numerical distinction of hypostases, and qualitative distinction. We accept an enduring qualitative distinction, but
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@PatrologyVotary St Theodotus of Ancyra (co-presider with St Cyril at Ephesus) spoke about this too. It was the entire point of his "Exposition on the Nicene Creed." Look at this point he makes:
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The conference ended after a few days due mainly to the embarrassment. Leontius the heretic sought to refute the saint. The problem though, is that St Severus already refuted his arguments in his Against John the Grammarian. Leontius served as the main source for all future...
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At Chalcedon, the heretics brushed it off without explanation, essentially ignored it, and they didn't attempt to deal with St Cyril for about 50 years until Nephalius wrote a florillegium defense of Dyophysitism with St Cyril. This was spread around by Macedonius II of Cple...
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL @DanielKakish
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JUST IN: @CardJosephZen pens strong rebuttal of Michael Lofton's critique of ++Zen's analysis of Fiducia Supplicans. “I must confess that I have often wasted my time following the program “Reason and Theology” of Michael Lofton, this big man with a little beard (who would do
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@Acolyte83349490 @sherifhanna @VividVox @jnorm88846433 @VaclavTailor @DanielKakish @CCyrillian Do you actually want an answer as to whether that's St Cyril's view? Because here you go: "And since he [Theodoret] said the form of God took up the form of a servant, let him come forward and explain whether the forms were united to each other without the hypostases, alone and
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@DanielKakish @IFFFMEISTER Right, and so instead of trying to prove by arguments that what happens in the composite nature of a man does not happen with Christ, they obfuscate the situation by pretending the composition of a man is not within their knowledge. Yet if it wasn't in their knowledge, they
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@ston_e2 I believe that St Gregory Barhebraeus or one of his contemporary SOC saints also speaks about transubstantiation. However, the most effective argument for transubstantiation goes beyond the word usage in OO history (which gives it proper precedence), but goes to our 1-nature
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@meisteriff @ydag2001 @PhilAthanasius @IacobRuthenicus Actually, one of the implications of a composite nature is that it can act according to one part and according to another part without being numerically divided according to those parts. Again, we speak of the composite nature of a man in the same way.
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Everyone, especially in the Coptic Orthodox Church, must read this. It's extremely pivotal for understanding the Metropolitan attacked by the theological enemies of the Church.
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Caroline 🇪🇬🇦🇲
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(1/4) 🧵: Translated testimony from Deacon Discorous on the reposed Anba Bishoy, Metropolitan of Damietta: “This man endured attacks on his person because he spoke the truth without compromise, a price he willingly paid, continuing on the path of truth without wavering.
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@AllanRuhl Not only that, but when people use the Vigilius argument, they're inherently implying that Vigilius was wrong for relying on the clear Acta of Chalcedon. It's much easier to defend what happened with Vigilius, since Vigilius was simply using the precedent which he received
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@Chaldean_Cath @Sicilianuss What's a Chaldean? Isn't that a Walmart-brand version of Assyrian with a Novus Ordo "liturgy?"
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One of the things I have to (respectfully) disagree with in here is the idea that Dyophysites are one with us as far as the Nicene Creed goes. It was in fact this very disagreement that spurred St Theodotus to write his "Exposition On The Nicene Creed" which explained that any
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@fatherthomasbjj For better context, the Ethiopian Orthodox priest was referring to the Orthodox Faith as the Council of Ephesus 431, which anathematized the Dyophysite belief that the Chalcedonians later accepted:
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@JosephJuli5882 @NewsNFTU Great question! Attached is from documents which are part of the Acts of Ephesus 431 (St Theodotus of Ancyra has 3 Conciliar Homilies which are part of it, and St Cyril has among other things his 3rd Letter to Nestorius). See some examples below:
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@DanielKakish @ErickYbarra3 @CCyrillian @PhiloxenusS @ErickYbarra3 thank you for this excerpt. The notable affirmations which are seen as in-line with St Cyril's unitive Christology (and Ephesus 431, by extension) are: 1) Augustine's language of "one and the same," which implies a negation of "one and another." It bears noting
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Bro's ecclesiology comes from a cereal box.
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@FathersStudent @Garimian @someone_bored14 Nope. Excommunication is stripping them of their baptismal rights. Barring them from communion is a temporary action. Excumincation is irreversible. That's why Dr. Bebawi could have communion in his last days and prayed on because it was not an excommunication.
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This guy has really done his homework. Anyone who doubts that Lucaris was a Calvinist, or the author of his Confession, really ought to watch either this or his documentary video:
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Alpha and Omega Ministries
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Let’s Make Cyril Lucaris Great Again! Finally got around to having Jason Wallace join us to talk about this video he posted a while back on the fascinating topic of Cyril Lucaris, the Calvinist Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople. If you are encountering the claims of
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Therefore, the Dyophysites will have many squabbles about Eucharistology because their position leads to the Eucharist only being 1/2 of Christ. That is, 1 of the 2 substances that they confess. If they confessed true union, they would not have these problems.
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@PhilAthanasius @ChristpilledLib The way the Melkite Catholics were formed was the conversion of one of the Melkite Byzantine patriarchs to RC, and so technically, their line converted to RC with him. The Greeks installed a parallel replacement for him. The modern line occupied by John Yatzsigi started only a
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@IFFFMEISTER St Athanasius considered books not within his canon list to also be inspired scripture, since he cites them as such in his writings. That was a completely different idea of "Bible" than Martin Luther was working with. In fact, the way the current Church of Alexandria (the
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@apologia_lazar If a nature is a primary substance, this nature will always bring forth a hypostasis (and the substance of the Trinity is 3 hypostases). If a nature is a secondary substance, this nature will always bring in many consubstantial hypostases. So you still end up professing 2 or
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@just_edwa @KAYATHESYCHAST @OrthoMemeSquad Please don't say that the belief is close to the "EO" (Nestorian heretics). They're anathematized by the Holy Spirit in the Third Ecumenical Council. Don't put us anywhere near that umbrella.
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