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there is nothing here to hold onto, nor any hand to grasp with, as the hand is none other than the held. seeing both are empty, who grasps?

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@TornadoNate the lethargy that marks most humans today is of the same flavor as that of a caged animal
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meditation just gets so fucking weird after a while, questions like "what is the nature of infinite space" and "exactly how do I construct objects out of perception" really start to weigh on you
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@sympatheticopp As the sense of self and an "inside" weakens, the world of trees and landscapes etc becomes ever more vivid, satisfying, fascinating. Leaning into this, staying at and luxuriating in the point of sense contact /is/ meditation.
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stumbled on an anecdote where the Buddha's bro is like "I can't hack monastic life, I'm gonna quit" so the Buddha calls forth 500 goddess babes and convinces his bro to practice for a waifu til the other monks roast him for meditating "like a wagie" with expectation of gain lmao
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scientists: language does not appear to be a prerequisite for complex thought, including symbolic thought every mystic ever:
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Language is primarily a tool for communication rather than thought “Language is a defining characteristic of our species, but the function, or functions, that it serves has been debated for centuries. Here we bring recent evidence from neuroscience and
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@mattx1b @nosilverv Right, exactly, there is this very interesting sense in which the answer to "What clings?" is "clinging clings," like the whole micro-perceptual movement is some kind of bizarre self-referential looping.
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@nosilverv "With Clinging as condition, Becoming arises." It is the clinging/holding/grasping of awareness/sense objects that produces both this tension and the manifestation of self (becoming). This is delusion/conceit/error because there is both no hand to grasp and nothing to hold onto.
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it's remarkable how cringe the Big Therapy Industrial Complex has made mindfulness when they could just tell teenagers the truth??? you can trip absolute balls on this shit, it's mushrooms except For Free dude!!!
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Beliefs are like food. Don't ask "Is this true?" Ask "Will eating this make me sick? Will believing this make me healthy and strong, or will it give me food poisoning? Have others eaten this belief and gotten sick? Is it nourishing?"
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Actual learning, play, is aimed at becoming capable, becoming powerful, becoming disruptive, and therefore intolerable. Schooling exists to defang and suppress development by substituting actual learning with mere repetition of whatever an authority figure tells you is true.
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Play is the most effective medium for learning. Kids are hardwired to play all the time precisely because that's how they learn. Which makes the opposition between school/study and play especially ironic.
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If you try to stay "in your body" 24/7 in an extremely serious kind of way, very interesting things will start to happen. The Buddha makes this very clear in the satipatthana sutta. Good luck!
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can you be too "in your body"?
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@nosilverv The society wide taboo on anger, "anger is bad for you!" is a demonic trick to enslave you. Your anger isn't bad for you, it's bad for /them/, get angry enough and you might hit back, uh oh! Good citizens are only allowed to hurt themselves.
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@QiaochuYuan tbh we could start labeling the hell realms as negative jhana, it kinda makes sense, maybe even build ourselves an entire jhana algebra
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@nosilverv I have often thought that serious endurance types, i.e. ultra-runners, competitive marathoners, are possessed by a really distinct kind of derangement, much different in spirit than bodybuilders.
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From /Seeing That Frees/, the progression described here resonates with my own experience:
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(guy with 18 hours of screen time/day voice): wow I would never fall in with a machine
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Excited to announce v(1.0) of Digi, the future of AI Romantic Companionship, for IOS and Android 🤖 Site: Twitter: @digiaiapp A quick thread on features, and where we go from here (1/13)
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@meditationstuff @kindgracekind Yeah, I think the jhana discourse is setting people up for an... interesting ride when they realize bliss-on-demand is still unsatisfactory and not what they're really looking for.
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@_inju That's why they call cultivating jhana the wet path 😏
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(guy suppressing all intuitive movement body-knowing because someone might judge him voice) I don't know how to dance 😅
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@nosilverv Reading this cursed tweet between deadlift sets like
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meditate enough and you will start saying stuff like I Can't Find A Head Dude, I Don't Really Have A Head this is drugs!!!!
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@nosilverv Whatever arises naturally ceases, observing it is self-liberating, how could it be a problem? Cease grasping and allow it to roll along (there isn't a real choice here, as it will anyway).
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@nosilverv Oh???? Endless therapeutic refinement of a narrative self that doesn't even exist doesn't work??? It's probably harmful????
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This ongoing discussion about how splitting yourself into "good" and "bad" parts can ultimately manifest as demonic possession is a good reminder of why you shouldn't do it, lmao, love even your claws
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was discussing “demon” parts with someone, here’s what comes up for me, from my experience (personal and guiding other people): - every once in a while, there's instances where people say they are sensing a part that seems like an external entity or not really a part of them. or
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Awareness retains an edge or boundary only so long as one mistakenly assumes it's something that can be grasped or held. This is because grasping implies that awareness is an object, and objects have boundaries. Cease holding and no more object, no more boundary: infinite space.
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@michaelcurzi One piece of this is that once you hit a baseline of "try hard over a long period of time" everything works
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@danielbrottman It's only jhana if it's from the Terai plains of southern Nepal, otherwise it's sparkling piti
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@LouisVArge I read a bipolar comedian describe mania once as "there's no high like believing you're Jesus Christ" my dude this is the Bodhisattva's path, you can absolutely meditate on love until you become Christ
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ladies I will help you out, if a man has wide-faced orangutan physiognomy he CANNOT be trusted, no I don't care if he "loves you"
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Ok no offense but if you’re a woman over the age of 24 and you think that you’re in an “exclusive relationship” with a terminal gym bro podcast celebrity who “loves therapy” and has obvious male manipulator physiognomy then I can’t help you
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More than 100 interesting data sets (with bad drawings!) http://t.co/TTEe1RfkDG
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@sympatheticopp There is a really good artistic rendering of this where as the silhouette of a man becomes emptier the world becomes detailed and brighter. I have been unable to find it.
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@RichDecibels I prefer to think about this without the implication that our becomings are separate. What could we become together, what potentialities does this unlock, what freshly becomes possible, what territories does this open?
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@itinerantfog Be me, go to the weed store, ask if they have weed that makes TV funny or only 420% THC panic attack strains It's good weed sir Get home It's a panic attack strain
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Walking into the weed shop to ask for the weed that makes TV funny but they only have the stuff they gave to the unabomber
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@ThinkingBone go for it, take a shower and tidy your space first, have a playlist ready, maybe some fruit, and set some positive intentions (eg loving yourself) also you should take like 3x that amount
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@RianKMD realizing there's no little operator in the head controlling this process like
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Clicking around website after seeing @Plus3Happiness and @BeraHugs bring it up a bunch of times and, man, this is some good stuff.
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@nosilverv There are plenty of offices branded as "men's health" or "longevity" clinics that will happily give anyone a script for supraphysiological amounts of testosterone (and other anabolics). Some bodybuilders do it this way.
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@Plus3Happiness Endlessly frustrating to me how the word "meditation" evokes this image of withdrawal and passive seclusion instead of full-throated engagement in Right Here Now to the point of self-immolation
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@m_ashcroft @RadicalRasmalai @hermittoday @AbstractFairy @Plus3Happiness was about to post this, once you have a felt sense of expansive vs contractedness of awareness there is an unpleasant sense of contraction and narrowing that accompanies any stimulant this has a body-tension component that inhibits "eureka!" style sudden insight problem solving
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These depictions of cessation are worth checking out, very interesting, line up with some of my own experiences.
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Infographics by me for you, so we may collectively understand the potentials of our consciousness better. This one is about...'cessations', which are ESSENTIAL for realising nibbana/nirvana (which interests you). [1/4]
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@ilex_ulmus I am pretty surprised to see a pause advocate looking for justification for taking things slow!
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@RuxandraTeslo slope on this line is looking considerably steeper than that historical period
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@sonyasupposedly "when someone tells you who they are, believe them" type of vibe
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@GrimKim at a hardcore show a few months ago, lawyer looking dude in a suit shows up, stands in the pit with a beer, im like this dude has no idea what's up he's gonna die, then he busts out a perfect 2 step, mind blown
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Letting go often results in a feeling of tension/knottedness. Why? Because everything you can "let go" of falls away and you're left with the sensations you're still clinging to as me/mine/solid/satisfactory. Letting go reveals your current layer of clinging.
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@DrolmaCaroline The literal translation of dukkha as "a bad fitting wheel that gives a very bumpy ride" strikes much more at the heart of dukkha-as-sensory-phenomena than "suffering." Its flavor is unsteadiness, wobbliness, bumpiness, the suffering aspect is almost secondary.
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@grantbels @itinerantfog Something I like to point out here is imagine tackling a smaller subset of the problem "figuring out your life:" figuring out what to eat for the rest of your life. It's obviously impossible to plan every meal out, you just take it day by day, right? So too your life.
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@LouisVArge @nosilverv Once you hit this stage of "can't motivate myself to" you'll generally find that letting go, acceptance, and Zazen-style non-doing is the path forward, increasingly the old way of "doing" stops working
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When you wake up from distraction and mindfulness returns, there is a moment of deja vu, a familiarity, a feeling that "I have been here before" that despite the ever-changing contents of this moment it all has one taste. What is this taste? This has troubled me for years.
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@nosilverv I fear the man who never has the same thought twice
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@Skillful_Memes @meditationstuff @kindgracekind Absolutely, absolutely! And much more interesting than blissing out. It's just very different than what people imagine they're signing up for.
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@meaning_enjoyer Yes hello this is how I cook
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@Jarsen @mattx1b @nosilverv Precisely! eventually one must let go of even this sort of unbalanced wrong-effort grasping at non-grasping. Equanimity here is the solvent.
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@AniccaLovin Those who estimate that "anyone can do it" tend to be high ability, suspect overestimation, IQ is an imperfect axis but sufficient sensory sensitivity + openness + conscientiousness is necessary and uncommon. Notice: most are entirely uninterested in this kind of investigation.
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turns out all of the little mental habits I use to distract myself from this moment and my sense of self are the same thing, oops
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@nosilverv to become like everybody else
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@smiling_for_fun Oouh... Husbant... Venerable Siddhartha... you have destroyed the ridgepole... now we are homeress
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@RogerThisdell I suspect the hardware is simply missing and can't be turned on or off. Is there a rational argument that could convince you of the inverse, to rid yourself of empathy?
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@the_wilderless As a concrete example, note the radical difference between those raised Catholic and adult convert "trads."
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@nosilverv Honore de Balzac wrote, "Many people claim coffee inspires them; but as everybody likewise knows, coffee only makes boring people even more boring." Well, so too travel.
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@nosilverv Bernadette Roberts, /The Experience of No-Self/
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@itinerantfog Fond of "there is a sense in which that is true" personally
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Any thought that re-occurs has beneath it some kind of attachment or wound. To "let go" of something is to digest it entirely, to forget it altogether. Repetition is therefore a kind of pointer, "huh, there's something more here, isn't that curious?"
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From /Progressive Stages of Meditation on Emptiness/:
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@nosilverv @ovid_returns Pyrrhonism shares a striking resemblance to Mahayana Buddhism and according to Diogenes Laertius Pyrrho adopted a "most noble philosophy" after meeting with Indian magi on his travels. If so, Buddhism may have directly influenced Stoicism via Buddhism -> Pyrrhonism -> Stoicism.
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@chercher_ai I discovered the Malunkyaputta Sutta earlier and also had a bit of an "it's all right there" moment
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@IkkyusDen I meditated to get Enlightened and all I got was more wood to chop and water to carry 😤
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where I'm at practice-wise: ✅ right here now
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where I'm at practice-wise: ☑️ no thing called 'self' inside ☑️ no boundaries to awareness ☑️ awareness and its contents are nondual 🏗️ sense of agency is gone ☑️ attention dissolved into awareness wish me luck, I'm almost done 🫡🫡🫡
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more evidence that "schooling" serves the same function in people as it does dogs, obedience training
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@Atlanticesque right, I can forgive any ideology if the art is good, but here the art has been strangled by ideology, cringe/boring, in the rare moments it's not predictable it's because it's /so/ monomaniacal that it's self-parodying
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"I've found the bedrock of all perception", statement dreamt up by the utterly deranged!!!
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just built a STOP DOING X meme generator in glif used the Virgin vs Chad generator as the basis Claude 3.5 Sonnet for text Stable Diffusion for image generation "STOP GOING TO VIBECAMP"
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@meridians_ people into IFS end up talking about their "parts" all of the time in a creepy way that unsettles me, no thank u
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@prerationalist I suspect it's both: some dismantling of defilements necessary for jhana to arise but jhana then further burns up the defilements.
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@BuddhistSanta There are others
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@nosilverv @mattx1b I kind of want to say yes but he also has an essay in I think /Metamagical Themas/ railing against non-dual mystical insight as delusional copium so I doubt he'd consider himself "our guy."
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@br___ian There have been a few positive studies applying loving kindness meditation to schizophrenic populations, I would start there
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@chercher_ai idk dude sounds like a view to me
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@nosilverv I come back again and again to this excerpt: "beat on that thick cloud of unknowing with a sharp dart of longing love, and do not give up, whatever happens."
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@impromptuvision one opening here is to notice that there is nothing to hold onto, nothing to grasp, this movement is in a fundamental sense based on a delusional assumption that sensation can be held, observe over and over again that it cannot and trying to do so hurts
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@syncretizm Vimalakirti Sutra: How does one cut off troublesome entanglements? By realizing there is nothing to grasp at.
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@ilex_ulmus I'm with you, I don't mind being ghosted. I actually don't want to read a paragraph explaining what you don't like about me, just disappear! I'm fine with it!
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@SaraBollman @wife_slime Do I need to join a monastery or do I just need to nap 😂🤣
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@LouisVArge I vote no, there aren't 4 well-defined stages, you can notice this by observing that no other mystical tradition uses a 4 stage model.
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more evidence that "schooling" serves the same function in people as it does dogs, obedience training
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@sixers2772 True! It is interesting to imagine Buddhist Modernism re-cast in right-Nietzschean terms. The suttas often describe the disciples in terms of their power and strength to "smash" delusion. Buddhism is also a literal sort of master morality, set forth by a prince (supposedly).
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@BeraHugs @smiling_for_fun I do love this broader prompt "what is the felt-sense quality of the observer?" My answer is something like a contraction, a knot, a smudge on the mirror.
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If awareness has no edge, how could it have a center? What is the nature of this "center"?
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Awareness retains an edge or boundary only so long as one mistakenly assumes it's something that can be grasped or held. This is because grasping implies that awareness is an object, and objects have boundaries. Cease holding and no more object, no more boundary: infinite space.
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@vincent_yc_li on the urge to make something of your life, you may find this poem from the soto zen monk Ryōkan Taigu of interest
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@DharmaRational Women, children, and animals are the easiest for me to get a bit of metta running, especially a sick one of the above.
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@algekalipso While it is true that these spaces are too dogmatic, meditate enough and this sort of conceptual construction is eventually seen clearly as missing the point. The mind cannot self-liberate on such a level. The concept-ing fuel was confusion.
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@positive_loop Adyashanti's /The End of Your World/, I read it once years ago but started going through it again after @nickcammarata mentioned it a few times. Great read, especially if you're trying to stabilize a glimpse of a non-dual way of being in the world and the difficulties therein.
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there is a path to the end of suffering (regular exercise)
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