Susannah Black Roberts @suzania Twitter profile

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

4 months

feelin cute, might mess around and become an Augustinian civic republican

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

2 years

Dear God

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2 months

Due to Texas's abortion laws: 255 babies died post-birth from birth defects who likely would have been aborted. At least 16,000 additional babies were born healthy.

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@AP

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Infant mortality rate rose 8% in wake of Texas abortion ban, study shows

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Susannah Black Roberts

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2 years

OK this is WILD you know that thing about how all the "witches" who were persecuted/killed during various inquisitions were actually pagan wise women victimized by the bigoted Catholic Church you know who invented that idea yes it's Heinrich Himmler

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Susannah Black Roberts

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5 years

Of US states, only South Carolina, West Virginia, and Wisconsin are meaningfully free.

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Susannah Black Roberts

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6 months

extremely funny suggested community note that will never see the light of day

Collin Rutherford

@collin_ruth89

6 months

Do you know what a "bottle night" is? Probably not, because my gf and I invented it during a 2023 blizzard in Buffalo, NY. We lock our phones away, turn the TV off... Each grab a bottle of wine, and talk. That's it, we simply talk and enjoy each other's presence. We live

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

4 months

Please stop using “we found archaeological evidence of Asherah being worshiped as the consort of the God of Israel” as a gotcha. It’s like a major part of the plot of the OT.

Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

4 months

@LacanianC @forsman_josh The OT extensively discusses the fact that Israelites habitually syncretized with Canaanite religions. There are a ton of references to Asherah in particular, who the Israelites used to worship as the consort of the Lord, particularly when they intermarried with the Canaanites.

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Susannah Black Roberts

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3 years

It will never not be funny when folks rediscover marriage and think it’s a gotcha

WᴶEᴼBᴱB ✌🏼

@thewebbix

3 years

@ElieNYC @HeatherThomasAF No female is impregnated without a male biologically. Therefore, that male should be required by law to provide half of the support — both physically and financially — till adulthood. I suspect that might change the intervention in women’s right to choose for themselves. ✊

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

poasting the banns

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

my dad recently told me about a Hollywood-adjacent acquaintance of his who had, with his wife, hired a surrogate mother for their first child, and were planning to do the same for any future children. to preserve his wife's body in its non-mom highly cultivated state.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

2 years

Wed! It was an absolutely amazing day, and I am so full of joy to be ⁦ @zugzwanged ⁩’s wife. Ok now gotta get to the airport.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

Posted with permission because ⁦ @ClareCoffey ⁩ is a genius poaster and is under-appreciated

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

2 years

I am going to think of this EVERY time I see the "we are the daughters of the witches you couldn't burn" meme and it is already making me increasingly deranged just thinking about it

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

The most important political movement now is the movement to become human again, to embrace being human, to fight against that dehumanization. It's an all-encompassing project.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

1 year

1/This is amazing and wonderful. Several years ago we published a book about them by Martin Mosebach, and I got the chance to learn more about them. 20 were Egyptians, Coptic Orthodox, many from the same village. But one was not: Matthew Ayariga was a Ghanian, probably Catholic.

Luke Coppen

@LukeCoppen

1 year

Pope Francis’ has said that the 21 Coptic Orthodox martyrs killed by Islamic State in 2015 “will be included in the Roman Martyrology as a sign of the spiritual communion uniting our two Churches”: Background:

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

2 years

Yes, there can be something obnoxious or fetishistic about the "get married, have family, make household" propaganda but the thing is it is clearly better for almost everyone's state of mind to do this,

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

Interviewer: Can you explain this gap in your resume? Me: In the middle of the journey of our life, I came to myself, in a dark wood, where the direct way was lost. It is a hard thing to speak of, how wild, harsh and impenetrable that wood was, so that thinking of it recreates th

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

2 years

One thing they don’t tell you about marriage is that you are 100% signing up for a dedicated 24/7 personal troll

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

6 months

Eek

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 months

Pro-lifers do not in general harshly judge women who miscarry. This is make believe.

Henry Wallis Commentary

@henryjkwallis

3 months

I'm sick of the "how dare you" because you pro-lifers get so offended by the objective grey area here: if you get so mad it might because ***you*** are the ones harshly judging women who miscarry, not those of us advocating they can get the medicine they need.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

2 years

Completely stupid and won’t happen probably but if it did: what if pro-life people and pro-choice people work together to promote policies that will reduce the demand for abortion and materially support mothers and their kids

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

2 months

Absolutely nuts that the Christians who denounce eg Tim Keller as an appeaser of secular sensibilities are the ones who have allied with and ushered in the post-Christian GOP It’s still secularism and liberalism even if it’s populist and people on the coasts hate it!

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

Be human. This is an emergency. You may have forgotten that you are human but you still are. Act like it. Being human, being embodied, is like a superpower - a superpower of limitation and reality. Wake up to the fact that you have that power, and use it.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

The genre of pro-choice tweet that's essentially reinventing marriage is really kind of heartbreaking: it's so clear that what they want *is* marriage, but they don't even know that that's what they should and can really expect of life, of themselves, of their partners.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

4 years

Really quite remarkable how fast we went from "Does it spark joy?" to "Is it shelf-stable?"

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

9 months

I can’t wrap my head around being any kind of traditionalist and using AI art. If you’re not aiming to preserve the human in the human things, what’s the point?

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

5 years

Christianity is not a means to an end- not the folk-religion of white people, not a tactic to preserve Western civilization, not a cover for the worship of blood and soil.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 months

imagine if Frederick II organized his “let’s raise a child with no language to find out what the Adamic language is” and the kid starts speaking Dutch

Patrick T. Brown

@PTBwrites

3 months

Adam and Eve, after the first bite: "We hebben een serieus probleem."

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

I have never more wanted to burn it all down. Obviously it used to be the case that upper-class and bourgeois women would get wet nurses for their children to avoid inconvenience and sagging breasts. This is not a sickness specific to modernity. But it is so dire.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

2 years

First lamb of the year at Fox Hill

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

2 years

I heard this yesterday and it was so insane that I had to google It's true He had this academic working on this for NINE YEARS, there was meant to be a book but that never materialized, but he promoted the idea heavily-the Church as suppressing the power of pagan wise women

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

People try SO HARD to distort human nature, to deform themselves. That's what sin is. You just hate your own nature, as a human social creature, and you try to change it or destroy it.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

I think the reason we love St. Augustine is that his discontent, careerism, pride, personal chaos, spiritual curiosity, intellectualism and frustration are so familiar to us. And that means his final honest hunger for and satisfaction in God are things that we can experience too.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

5 months

Almost everything a child experiences is more real than “dopamine” This obsession with neurotransmitters is making us all into chemical kantians— no direct experience of the world or even of our passions, just phenomena on a neurological scrim

Matt Bateman

@mbateman

5 months

This is a book for 4 year olds I hate this so much

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

4 months

hot take: protestants have not sufficiently reckoned with the seriously demonic nature of the French Revolution.

Brittany Hurd

@truzzi

4 months

Slightly obsessed with the madness of the French Revolution at the moment. Hit me with your favorite books on it.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

7 months

This is so depressing and dumb. What a horrible way to think about children and about music.

Michael Hooper

@drmichaelhooper

7 months

Classical music is becoming a niche activity not helped by the fact that fewer and fewer state school pupils are learning to play orchestral instruments. It’s time to reassess our priorities, argues Ray Coyte.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

11 months

If you are a conservative Christian who thinks that it’s unjust that people on the left sometimes characterize all conservative Christians as racist or fascist, a good step to take is to not include racists or fascists in your institutions and coalitions & not cover for them.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

Cooking for yourself and your family is part of it, and so is getting in good physical shape, and so is fighting to preserve wildlands and habitats for non-human creatures, and so is ditching Roe v. Wade, and so is loving your friends, and so is honoring your parents.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

4 months

“being obsessed with making babies is weird” is not perhaps the popular and common sense message that you think it is. Babies and the process of making them both remain extremely popular among the human race.

POLITICO

@politico

4 months

The far right is so obsessed with making babies, they just held a whole conference about it. Behind the scenes at the first “NatalCon” ⬇️

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Susannah Black Roberts

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5 years

Yes, men should materially and emotionally support the mothers of their unborn children throughout the pregnancy, as well as afterwards. Again, I would like to introduce you to a thing that has in times past been referred to as “marriage.”

Carliss Chatman

@carlissc

5 years

If a fetus is a person at 6 weeks pregnant, is that when the child support starts? Is that also when you can’t deport the mother because she’s carrying a US citizen? Can I insure a 6 week fetus and collect if I miscarry? Just figuring if we’re going here we should go all in.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

4 months

This isn't true. No one in the pro-life movement has either wanted or worked hard for something like this to happen.

Dr. Laura Robinson

@LauraRbnsn

4 months

I don’t understand people expressing surprise and confusion at this. This is *exactly* how these laws are supposed to work. People worked really hard to make sure this happened.

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Susannah Black Roberts

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6 months

“It's 106 miles to Paris. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, It's dark, and my skull’s in a reliquary.” “Hit it.”

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

5 months

Hey @catholiccom your AI “priest” is offering absolution. Might want to kill it with fire and never do anything like this again.

Katie (Kathryn) Conrad

@KatieConradKS

5 months

@aa4jq @SimchaFisher @catholiccom It gets worse.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

5 months

-weird food habits -can’t get baptized because “I’m too liminal” … is Jordan Peterson actually Simone Weil

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 months

I honestly can’t remember ever meeting someone who didn’t like kids when I was growing up but I do remember that “not liking kids” was a clear indication of villainy in children’s literature

Jane Coaston 🏔️

@janecoaston

3 months

I distinctly remember being a kid and encountering adults that hated kids and thinking “that’s weird”

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

2 months

Christians rescued their “enemies’” exposed children and raised them, right up until 374 when Valentinian I, Constantine’s successor, abolished the exposure of “unfit” infants in the Roman Empire.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

And it's going to get worse. (Some of) the rich always have and will always try to dodge aspects of the human condition, to reject the solidarity of the body. As our technology makes it more possible for people to do this more effectively, they will.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

1 year

What I’m hearing is they didn’t find his body 😃

Bruja🐺

@lyssasphere

1 year

Jesus didn't exist.

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Susannah Black Roberts

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5 months

Happy prison break day!

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

That's what not giving justice to the poor is, that's what aborting Down syndrome kids is, that's what not worshiping God is, that's what having contempt for your parents is. Suicide by a thousand cuts of auto-dehumanization.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

6 months

It is not the job of fiction or music to make you morally better

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

1 year

Are we allowed to notice that Jordan Peterson’s latest thing is publicly attacking the world’s most straightforward universal father figure squarely in his own realm of authority Is that maybe something that a Jungian analyst might have something to say about

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

7 months

Thinking about contemporary versions of Puritan virtue names again Self-care Baxter Mindfulness Sewell Productivity Bartlett Big Feelings Bradstreet Authenticity Abbot K-selected Mating Strategy Dudley Low Time Preference Gage Holding Space Hutchinson

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

1 year

It’s never occurred to me before, but I wonder whether in addition to everything else the Tower of Babel was very tacky.

Ray Monk

@Raymodraco

1 year

The "Icon Of The Seas" sets sail in January 2024. 5610 passengers, 2350 crew members, 5 times larger and heavier than the Titanic, 19 floors with more than 40 bars, restaurants and bowling alleys. What a monstrosity!

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

8 months

Embryos this age are 13-17 mm— ie around half an inch, the size of a large blueberry or small olive— and look like this

Jessica Valenti

@JessicaValenti

8 months

Just a reminder that this is what an 8 week pregnancy/abortion looks like

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

Good afternoon. Second-wave feminism was a psyop designed to funnel as close to 100% of human productive work as possible through the corporate wealth-skimmer and instantly double the labor force in order to cripple the union movement.

Joe Biden

@JoeBiden

3 years

Nearly 2 million women in our country have been locked out of the workforce because they have to care for a child or an elderly relative at home. My Build Back Better Act will make caregiving accessible and affordable and help them get back to work.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

2 years

“where exactly is God? I have checked the produce drawers in my refrigerator REPEATEDLY. checkmate theists”

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@DavidDecosimo

2 years

“Where is heaven exactly, given that we have multiple telescopes up there beaming back information.” - Sam Harris

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@suzania

2 years

“There is nothing more admirable than when two people who see eye to eye keep house as man and wife, confounding their enemies and delighting their friends.” Odyssey 6, 182-185

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

This is where we're going. If you don't choose not to do this, if you don't choose to reject this concept of what children are, what people are for, root and branch, this is what you will believe is good in ten years.

Antonio Regalado

@antonioregalado

3 years

Bloomberg reports the claim of the first child born following polygenic screening as an embryo, via a company called Genomic Prediction. Basically a test that rank orders embryos by health using genome wide profile 🧵

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

The distrust and dislike of Tim Keller is pretty mysterious to me. I don’t get what it is that his enemies think, specifically, he’s done wrong.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

2 months

Very very very weird to not have any pro-life party in this country. Strangely freeing. We are no longer beholden to anyone. Time to embrace the weirdness.

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Susannah Black Roberts

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2 years

Christianity is a religion with creeds, rituals, practices, beliefs, and canons.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

And so is marrying one person and giving them your loyalty for life, and bearing your own children - or suffering their loss, and so is adopting those who need parents but never thinking that you are entitled to a child, and so is helping your parents as they age.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

4 months

Best tweet. That’s it.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

1 year

You ever think about how Jesus was born as a peasant baby & died as a miscellaneous criminal and was buried in a borrowed tomb and now his kingdom has spread over the whole world and kings and queens have been (accurately) worshiping him as their King and God for nearly 2K years?

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 months

Virtue ethics works, which means that if you act in Machiavellian ways in order to gain political power for Aristotelian ends, by the time you get power you will no longer be the kind of person who is able to choose to exercise it well.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

2 years

hang on it’s a “liberal” position to say that David raped Bathsheba? what does this mean/why is that liberal/what

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

4 years

Overstatement and Being Triggered By Vermeule taken into account... this is a hideous thing to say.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

So is listening to and making good music, and so is going to physical Church on Sunday, and so is promoting good architecture, and so is praying for the president and others in authority, and so is learning and promoting the traditions of classical Christian jurisprudence.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

1 year

pray for him. But also, you don’t get to be in any pro-life adjacent club or political movement if you mock people with Down syndrome.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

8 months

My dear Wormwood, I’m very pleased to hear that your patient has begun thinking of his Twitter use as a kind of chivalric act, equivalent to taking part in an actual war. Sloth and anger are powerful weapons on our side, as of course is self-righteousness.

Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

8 months

He also would absolutely have written a whole Screwtape about the dangers of culture warring and it would have been glorious.

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@suzania

3 months

The one Italian kid at hogwarts

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

4 years

Meanwhile an obscure Corsican artilliery officer prepares to place a blue check next to his own name...

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

9 months

I'm not going to be able to describe this right. Marriage has felt... incredibly empowering, and has made me a good bit less instinctively statist, to want to have our home be a location of political and cultural power. It *feels* political. It feels atavistic and pre-modern.

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@suzania

5 years

I can think of a different way that this headline could have been written.

The Hill

@thehill

5 years

NEW POLL: Nearly half of Americans say Supreme Court should uphold Roe v. Wade

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@suzania

5 months

She’s encountering the text personally in a way she hadn’t before. That’s wonderful! But because of her conspiratorial habit of mind, she thinks this subjective experience means that previously the truth had been hidden from her by sinister forces.

Dr. Naomi Wolf

@naomirwolf

5 months

Am I the only person who thinks literary criticism, looking at language nuances, is useful? A theme in the Hebrew Bible v later English translations is that the original is often more immediate and open, and much less bureaucratic, priestly or institutional. Middlemen were not

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

1 year

Fwiw crisis pregnancy centers offer services and goods (primarily focusing on support for women and children during pregnancy and the first year of life) valued at $250-300 million or so a year. Free std tests, medical/prenatal care, parenting classes, baby goods, etc.

Ryan Marino, MD

@RyanMarino

1 year

Please ask every anti-abortion person you encounter how many children they’ve adopted. They don’t actually care about children. When they say none ask them how much they donate to orphanages/social services & to any children’s causes. It’s always nothing. They’re just hypocrites:

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10 months

This is evil. The 3rd Reich gave us a collective immunity to this kind of thing that lasted for 80 years but it has apparently worn off. Because we can’t count on moral instincts any more we will now have to make arguments.

Andrew Davison

@AP_Davison

10 months

Euthanising people with autism and intellectual disabilities in the Netherlands: a report from the Associated Press.

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Susannah Black Roberts

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2 years

Ok one more: so, we were at Bethesda Fountain in Central Park doing photographs after the wedding, and a high school dance troupe (naturally) was hanging around and (ofc) wanted to take a picture with us, and really, when these things happen, you kind of have to go for it:

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@suzania

2 years

>women are not incubators >just hire a surrogage

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

6 months

@here_is_hubris Christian fans

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@suzania

1 year

This is disgraceful.

Mirror Politics

@MirrorPolitics

1 year

Ex-Archbishop of Canterbury tells MPs assisted dying is 'profoundly Christian'

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@suzania

3 years

Hi 👋 Fact-checker here! Yes there is.

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4 months

Two years. My husband ⁦ @zugzwanged ⁩ is the most honorable and *interesting* man I know, and his love of God’s word inspires me. He is also a ton of fun. Every day with him brings me joy. God is very, very good.

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2 years

Unbelievably screwed up and every woman who’s had a miscarriage knows this, if she could bear to look. The embryo was removed from these photographs. A 9 week embryo is nearly an inch long. Pathetic and cruel gaslighting.

Charlie Camosy

@CCamosy

2 years

So, @PoppyNoor and the @Guardian managed to do a story on what a pregnancy looks like (takeaway: "it doesn't look like what you think") and in the nine week photo, for instance, they *removed the baby from the photo.* This is not a joke! Amniotic sac only.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

2 months

“If you don’t like abortion, don’t have one” now a Christian nationalist talking point. Completely amazing.

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@suzania

2 years

I am once again begging highbrow Christians to remember that every baptized person is a co-heir with you of the Kingdom of Heaven and it is not a good look if you treat a member of your own family like they are a trashy embarrassment. This is a subtweet.

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7 months

turns out if you kill all your baby girls then 20 years later you will be in a bit of a pickle maybe killing baby girls isn’t a good idea and you shouldn’t do it Or baby boys What if, experimentally, we just acted as tho each person was not to be killed

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@suzania

2 years

Any country that has begun to permit euthanasia has given up on civilization in any recognizable sense.

Joyce Carol Oates

@JoyceCarolOates

2 years

while hardly perfect, Canada is a more civilized society than the US, with a concern for the "commonweal" that is not in the American tradition. euthanasia, like abortion, is a "human rights" issue that should not be politicized or controlled by religious dogma.

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Susannah Black Roberts

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2 years

This piece is clearly deliberately deceptive. "There is still no visible embryo... if we looked closer, under a microscope, would we see more human qualities?" There're no visible embryos because they were removed from the gestational sacs before the photos was taken.

The Guardian

@guardian

2 years

What a pregnancy actually looks like at nine weeks – in pictures

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Fwiw I’ve never met anyone who judges women for miscarriage but I have met many people-exclusively pro-choice— who think it’s embarrassing if you’re upset by it and that you didn’t lose a kid and you shouldn’t act as if you did or grieve.

Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 months

Pro-lifers do not in general harshly judge women who miscarry. This is make believe.

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Susannah Black Roberts

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this is really the central thing. Those who because of mental illness are considering suicide do not need to be told “yes that might well be a good option for you, no ethical problem with it, you’re not needed here and there’s no objection from our side for you offing yourself.”

Lily & Me 🐶 & 👩🏼‍🦳 🇨🇦 🇳🇮

@103blinddog

2 years

@globeandmail I suffered from depression for 3 years, there were times when I thought suicide might be a good idea. Thank goodness no one at those moments offered me MAID.

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Above: "Pregnancy tissue" at 7 & 9 weeks. These are the amniotic sacs with the embryos removed. Below: R: Embryo at 9 weeks, L: Fetus at 11 weeks, inside the sacs. These photos were taken in the mid-1960s and have been reprinted in @guardian many times.

The Guardian

@guardian

2 years

What a pregnancy actually looks like at nine weeks – in pictures

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

4 years

Hume: "what if... now hear me out... when I hit the billiard ball with the cue, the cue doesn't CAUSE the ball to move, it's just a really WEIRD COINCIDENCE" Everyone else: "interesting, say more." Hume: "now that I've got causality figured out let me tell you about miracles"

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

4 years

tfw if you don’t look at epistemology it won’t hurt you

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

3 years

This is what 90% of guys have been thinking for the last couple of days, secretly.

Alan Cole

@AlanMCole

3 years

I know I'm supposed to "stay in my lane" but I really feel that if I were given a chance at the wheel there would be a decent chance I could move the ship.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

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@LacanianC @forsman_josh The OT extensively discusses the fact that Israelites habitually syncretized with Canaanite religions. There are a ton of references to Asherah in particular, who the Israelites used to worship as the consort of the Lord, particularly when they intermarried with the Canaanites.

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

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inside you there are two wolves

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Susannah Black Roberts

@suzania

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This piece is truly bizarre. The journo is like… discovering for the first time that people he disagrees with politically are normal human beings like him and it’s stressing him out.

I Regret to Inform You That J.D. Vance’s Spotify Completely Slaps

The Ohio senator and Hillbilly Elegy author might enjoy 2000s indie rock more than you probably think.

slate.com

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