If it'll throw a wrench in their plans I'd like to announce thay the screenshots of me and
@GnomonkeyRS
talking with
@JagexSarnie
about Colloseum are fabricated and you're being merched for spectral. Do your research!
Got Whisperer WR today! Could've been 6 ticks faster if I didn't noodle at the end but we take it! Special thanks to
@anonymousg88355
for helping me get the task and figure out a bug and
@MolGoatKirby
for the sbs tech into enrage <3. Your move, Kirby!
Jagex just removed the visual sounds plugin. Very likely only because me,
@GnomonkeyRS
and
@NyutaipOSRS
were using it to make No Stun Awakened Leviathan somewhat more feasible to complete. (Gz to Noobtype on actually completing it). [1]
Even if you, as a purist, don't like the plugin, getting it removed because 3 people are attempting a self-imposed challenge is an extremely shitty thing to do. It's like a toddler stealing another's toys because it can't play so neither can others. I'm done with this community.
All the plugin effectively did was move the part to pay attention to on your screen from the boss to right next to your prayer book.
- There was no inputs made for us,
- No info given to us earlier than we could've deduced or, at all, deduced. [2]
The comparison to "guitar hero" is unfair. That plugin, unlike "visual sounds", would:
-Keep in queue the prayers you'd need to click and show them sliding down onto your protection prayers
-They would highlight the prayers themselves. No deduction from colors necessary. [3]
@OldSchoolRS
Where's colosseum endless mode and why are the debuffs so unfun? :(
Also, can we get a rework on the rewards from there pls, everyone knew they'd be borderline useless and they are.
The timer is always ticking. Tick by ticks, it goes: Melee > Magic > Ranged > Nothing > Nothing > Nothing. While you're moving they can't attack you, as they have to reposition. This means you have 3 free ticks to be standing still and drinking potions, attacking, etc.
The audio cues, btw, we swap using the Sound Swapper plugin. Jagex didn't make the original levi orb sounds distinct or fast enough to allow enough recognition time at 0-tick speed. [6]
Making something barely humanly feasible shouldn't constitute cheating that needs to be immediately dealt with (within just a day of streaming attempts). OSRS is community that loves self-imposed challenges. What happened to the spirit of that? [7]
In any other game, complaints about visual/auditory clarity would be addressed quickly and not spark discussion. This game has way too many unreasonably purist players. Must be PTSD from RS3 days or jealousy. [8]
I feel like most people criticizing the plugin either don't understand how it worked and/or have a distaste that the we're paying attention to a menu and not a boss. It was functionally identical. Now, we can only pay attention to audio cues as there's simply not enough time. [5]
The plugin would not work the way we were using it anywhere else.
-Jad doesn't have a ranged sound early enough.
-Nothing in the game has the "0-tick" atk speed. Switching prayers when you see the visual sounds number change was too early and resulted in you getting hit. [4]
I have a conspiracy this question from a previous poll was to weed out the nostalgic players. I can't think of one good reason why you'd want to remove claws from where it was for 6 years just to push it onto a slayer monster.
@MoldRs
Ppl who aren't affected by a question shouldn't have a say in it. So many unqualified voters man. Jagex doesn't do good by polling literally every stupid little thing too. Stop polling QoL for fuck's sake, if the update really ends up badly, revert it.
@RynoOSRS
A weapon nobody would use for any reason continues to be a weapon nobody would use for any reason. I wish they'd stop polling stupid ass questions. Just make the change.
@HiImSido
They really, really need to add replayability to new "high level" releases. If there's no incentive to do them besides blood torva they will be obsolete immediately again. A waste of everyone's time. They should consider adding the streak and enrage system from RS3 to these.
@OldSchoolRS
NOOOOOOOOOO keep Seren that was the only cool one. Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Who cares if it changes the meta, we've had the same meta for ages. It's ok the change the meta every now and then ughhhhhh
@JagexSarnie
@OldSchoolRS
Consider adding another Manticore modifier or two? Modifiers that add mechanics with good counterplay are fun.
What about a modifier on Mantimayhem such that with tier 2, the Manticores shoot 4 orbs and they shoot 5 with tier 3?
Would be worthy of the Colosseum (1/2)
@JagexBlossom
@JagexGoblin
@JagexAyiza
Any chance you could shed some light on why Whisperer won't entangle you AT ALL after a special attack sometimes? It seems to rarely happen and we can't seem to reproduce it so I'm wondering if it's even intentional in the first place.
@Yugioh_OSRS
I don't think your average voter cares about what happens to the game, they just want anything to happen. I don't think most mid levels would quit the game if we had 0 content coming out this year for example.
@Rendi_Mento
Rendi, would you play on a server that runs the initial version of OSRS and got no updates? Where would you want to cut the updates? Would you prefer no updates after a certain point?
@OldSchoolRS
You need to just completely revisit all the rewards except quiver. They're going to be very lackluster for coming from "high-risk high-reward" content... Glaive is strictly worse than its competitors, fire spells aren't used anywhere, recoil has to be strong to take over defender
@JagexAsh
Hey mod Ash, do you know if the odds of room level ups with "Walk the Path" on at ToA is equal for each room? Or is there some other factor that makes one room more likely to level up than the other, after completing a room?
@OSRS_AColdOne
Fair point:
- Setting up a complicated plugin to give yourself an advantage at a boss fight isn't desirable and shouldn't be standardized
Unfair point:
- Moving text on a boss to the player instead (recontextualizing) to not have to play with your camera zoomed out is cheating
@Alec_Sween
@JagexAyiza
@JagexLight
@JagexSarnie
Are there any plans on the future of high level PvM? ToA was underwhelming for us high-level PvMers and Oldschool hasn't had a big challenge since inferno. Perhaps Tasakaal Trials can make it into the game sometime?
@ReisenLoverX
The hardest content should be the most rewarding. If people are spending 400% more effort at the highest level of something they should also get extra reward proportional to their efforts (not just lousy one-off cosmetics or titles).
@J1mmyRS
Shouldn't they risk questions that might not pass? To me, some questions feel so trivial or unimpactful that they shouldn't have been polled in the first place. Nobody's gameplay experience would be impacted from the change. Cherry-picking one: Torag's hammers double-hit
@SaederRS
@NyutaipOSRS
Obligatory do you like the current state of the soulreaper axe/what would you do to it if you were to have complete creative freedom with it?
"CoX has too many drops"
And..? Why is content having lots of drops a bad thing? Because your poor ironman ass doesn't wanna grind it all out? It's ridiculous this was even a question. The devs did right to have the final say here.
@_Naabe
@GnomonkeyRS
Genuinely, please explain to me when it was ever implied that they should be "constantly catering to" high level players. We want a difficult (and scalable) content release once every 1-2 years and that's constant catering? I don't understand people with this viewpoint.
@MarijuanaRns
@TastyOSRS
So do you. We haven't had aspirational content for 5 years (minus single kill Awakened bosses now). You could've played 1 hour a day since ToB release and reached the same conclusion (people have).
@JagexSarnie
@OldSchoolRS
I think Solarflare is the perfect example for what a fun modifier is. Has sufficient counterplay and each tier is significant. How about another Solarflare with a larger orbit? What if the Shockwave Colossi *actually* created shockwaves on the floor?
Also reroll button pls <3
A number of Varlamore-related videos including faked gameplay have been circulating on social media at the moment.
Below is a short statement addressing these and aiming to dispel misinformation being spread by bad actors to turn a profit.
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@OldSchoolRS
I dislike this proposal, not because it adds more complexity but because the complexity it adds doesn't affect my gameplay. If another gear setup is BIS somewhere I'll take it but that's that. Once I figure out what gear to take, that's all the update provides for me. Boring imo
@RealMatK
It's not that polls aren't useful, but rather that only very obvious changes and content proposals ever get made these days. People always approach with a "Why not?" mentality to questions where it should instead be, imo, "Why?".
@J1mmyRS
I have a different theory (I couldn't prove ofc): I think the average player doesn't care much about what comes into the game and if Jagex took a 6 month hiatus most people would continue to play.
@RealMatK
Give us surveys more often, give us an avenue to explain our votes, not just through Reddit/Twitter. Ask the respective communities what they think of updates. Skilling updates should be partly determined by people dedicated to skilling, PvM to PvM, PvP to PvP.
@DedWils0n
I haven't followed the thread and yes it is skillful what you're doing but I do think 6 hours is a loooooot for a lotta ppl, idk. Keeping consistent at high APM stuff for 6 hours? Geez
@OldSchoolRS
Can't ever get feedback to you as a high level PvMer so idk what you're talking about with "creating an idea of our own". Consider making a feedback change to your newest raid please.
@JagexAsh
Does the Oldschool Team or higher ups care about high-level players anymore? Genuinely asking, so many of us feel forgotten. I love this game and it's sad to see my friends quitting due to a lack of difficult content updates. ToA could've been it but it needs tweaks.
@Mandrue
@flomple
@OldSchoolRS
Yeah I guess it doesn't have to be the quiver necessarily but I'd be really disappointed if Colloseum, which is going to introduce streaking, wouldn't be rewarding. It feels like that's going to be the case if the currently proposed rewards are voted in.
@EvEViolent
@aatykon
You are, in fact, lacking in foresight and thinking selfishly about your current progression path. My experience with the game doesn't make everything I say right but it sure does give more credibility to it as someone who's progressed through the same path you are right now.
@recklessladrs
@OsrsAus
@OldSchoolRS
It doesn't need as many, it just needs useful ones and like I said, because you're risking the loot or continuing. If the items aren't useful they might as well also remove that mechanic.