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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@EricVolz I genuinely cannot believe that you are posting this after it has been communicated time over time by the AG, that this was NOT intended for any kind of distribution. They were horrified. Previously you said that your account is "official ELT communication" This is bad faith 10x

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Nate Hagerty

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8 months

When leaders are formed in a toxic culture, they need an entirely new experience of leadership before they can create something new. I've seen this in biz, in non profits, and (especially) in church. What got us here won't be able to get us out. But it requires humility to see.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

There is much much more to this story, and it will be told. It's time these situations are addressed.

Advocate Group: IHOPKC Founder Mike Bickle Covered Up Son’s Affair, Threatened Whistleblower

IHOPKC founder Mike Bickle covered up his son’s affair with the wife of ministry dept head according to videos released by fmr IHOPKC leaders

julieroys.com

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

To Jane Doe. THANK YOU.

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@natehagerty

9 months

@EricVolz This just keeps getting worse. Genuinely believing this entire paragraph is somehow exculpatory to what @bozlawpa posted earlier is a reflection of a bubble that is in dire need of some outside air. There are leaders NOW in the ELT who KNOW those "five" are the real red herring.

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@natehagerty

9 months

@EricVolz There is a rapidly increasing amount of AI avatar accounts under pseudonyms applauding these statements. People that nobody actually knows. It's very very interesting.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@ihopkc Unfortunately, it's not just MB. It's the system he made & the men & women who implemented it. The damage is deep & long. A true third party investigation would help, and hopefully this attitude will persist when it becomes apparent that many leaders should get non ministry jobs

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

Angry. Sad. Relieved the truth is getting out. And very concerned that some eyes and ears will remain shut. When will resistance to the truth end?

Woman says IHOPKC founder groomed, sexually abused her when she was 14 in the 1980s

The allegations, which some say are the most damning to surface yet about the well-known charismatic ministry leader and come after four decades of silence, are the first claims that involve sexual...

www.kansascity.com

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

I think it's fair that the Advocate Group should start being listened to. Carefully and with honor. (To be clear, I am not officially one of them.)

Elizabeth ZION {Consulting Team}

@ZionConsultTeam

9 months

We wanted to help bring truth, change, and safety. We knew it would be hard for many to accept. We knew the actual truth was SO SO BAD. We didn't know WE would become the target of the lawyers, and the narratives, and the circling, and the wagons, and the PR. 1/

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Nate Hagerty

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9 months

@dwaynearoberts I already retweeted this because I think it's so important -- but I also wanted to say to you publicly that what you have demonstrated behind the scenes is the very picture of relentless integrity, passionate care, willingness to repent, and SAFETY. So proud to stand with you.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@ihopkc You have made a mistake in not agreeing to a mutually-acceptable, independent investigation firm. Have we learned that yet?

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 months

@bozlawpa @jonochall Thank you sir. I ask any open minded person reading this to consider the fruit here. On one side there is transparency, and quick apologies for miscommunication and mistakes. And on the other?

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

Finally we can share these. You can take from it what you will.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

Serious question: can we all move on to the next stage of this mess now? #ihopkc What is keeping us from healing together?

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

@EricVolz These PR games and half truths are exhausting and don't befit a ministry organization. She didn't say you used her name.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

@EricVolz Do you not see the dissonance of this response? Surely you do. Refusing to engage her questions, while simultaneously blaming and berating the wounded Jane Does and their advocates to swallow THEIR concerns and engage with *your* process?

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@judylthomas Judy, as I told you already, this article is surgical and devastating. And it is a massive blow against the darkness. So grateful for your diligence and excellence.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@dwaynearoberts @EricVolz Dwayne, thank you for your fierce love and courage on behalf of so many. And that even in this supercharged environment, you model that you can still be a vulnerable leader. 🤔 I hate that your friends have violated your trust so vividly. What a mess.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 months

Ok, I'm reposting this for a few reasons. For those who are following the #IHOPKC debacle, this is a trustworthy and worthwhile fund. Since IHOPKC hasn't yet extended this kind of help, let's be the kind of people who would:

Therapy Funds for Family of IHOPKC'S Jane Doe 1, organized by Susan Tuma

SUMMARY This is a fundraiser to help offset the prohibitive costs of coun… Susan Tuma needs your support for Therapy Funds for Family of IHOPKC'S Jane Doe 1

www.gofundme.com

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

One of the key decisions of a leader is to know when the game has changed. #ihopkc

A Response to the Allegations against Mike Bickle from two former Colleagues

We write to you today with sorrowful hearts. As many of you know, we both served on the senior leadership team at Metro Christian Fellowship (MCF) alongside Mike Bickle – Michael from 1987-2000 and...

www.samstorms.org

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 months

I'd follow to say that leaders *identified* as such by a toxic culture might not actually be leaders at all. They just excelled in the traits that were valued by the culture. To detangle from bad leadership and toxicity (much less abuse) ALL of it needs a refresh.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

Compare and contrast the assertions here with those from @EricVolz and @ihopkc over time. It's true: these are all *assertions* of fact. But when you follow the breadcrumbs you find your way to factual truth. Do it. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

Dwayne Roberts

@dwaynearoberts

9 months

Response to the Jane Doe Appeal and Protest Statement A recent statement released entitled the “Jane Doe Appeal and Protest Statement” has begged some legitimate questions about the ongoing situation related to allegations of Mike Bickle’s misconduct. The following statement

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@jonochall Thank you for this. Do you know why it is that they didn't simply text you to ask the clarifying questions? (well, perhaps that is self evident)

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 months

The most powerful manipulations are those that cannot even be detected as such. Leaders who have honed such ways, especially over decades, have even manipulated themselves. "Reformation" would necessitate archaeological reconstruction And the same is true for their organization

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

What a weird timeline we have entered in which Mark Zuckerberg shows far more humility, wisdom and strength to spontaneously and truly apologize to those harmed by his domain than do ministry leaders we have all admired for so long. Yes, this a #IHOPKC subtweet.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

I go to bed with hope. I pray that finally closed eyes and ears are forced open. And perhaps there could be healing ahead.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@EricVolz One option that has always been available is to trust God that the risk of using a victim-centered org or individual would only serve to create trust in an environment that is frayed. Shock me now, don't shock me later, etc. This is another option, of course.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

@Joel7Richardson Very similar to the "process" we were forced to undertake with them in 2021 when we were attempting to prevent the destruction of a close friend's life by a prominent person the community.

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@natehagerty

9 months

@ZionConsultTeam And to be fully clear. Current leadership at IHOPKC has known of all of this for 3+ years and they chose to allow Mike to guide and dictate the handling. It is past time for repentance on their part -- ideally in public.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 months

@DavidMalone526 this is heartbreaking and it is beautiful in its humility and grace @davidmalone526 . So much love for you.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

@EricVolz Either you are intentionally eliding the truth in this matter, or you are being fed misinformation. Does it trouble you that @jonochall (fmr COO of IHOPKC and intimately involved with this) challenges your facts? Respectfully.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

@EricVolz These are not new waters.

SBC committee waives privilege after bitter debate, moving abuse investigation forward

(RNS) — ‘We deserve what is coming for us as a people,’ said Tiffany Thigpen, abuse survivor.

religionnews.com

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

The problem for so many leaders is that we get caught so often in a defensive posture when we face perceived threats. And if we're not careful, we create even more damage by reacting instead of truly listening. #ihopkc

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

Heather's voice and counsel has been critical during this season of advocacy many of us have found ourselves within. And this is an important nuance to understand.

H.L.Griffin- #ACNAtoo I NOPE because I hoped

@hlgriffin

9 months

Beware of leaders in an abuse crisis who are good at making you feel listened to- who seem kind & empathetic. They will often promise reform. They will tell you that they are learning & listening. They seem to care. But their actions never follow through...

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

If only most leaders carried this perspective. (And the same holds with a business leader ... what are we doing this thing for anyway?)

Matt Smethurst

@MattSmethurst

9 months

If succeeding as a pastor means failing as a parent, you’ve already failed as a pastor. — Eugene Peterson

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Nate Hagerty

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8 months

@rachaelannsteel @juliepitts_ @SheilaBoland2 And sadly, I think many more people are now seeing this pattern that has been hiding behind the scenes for quite some time. It was exactly our experience in 2021 and why we left FC with great sadness And I think we're all now being shown how it's been a longstanding pattern.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

@bennettisaac I've always felt that you have a tender and receptive heart, Isaac. I think that's part of what has been so surprising about so many public (and some private) statements. There still exists great love among us. This is a start.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 months

@WillCab8 This is very sad and disturbing. I used to toggle back and forth between one of his sermons and Tim Keller's while mowing my grass. (Motivation + Actual Exegesis) The last 4-5 years, I found myself never toggling back from Keller. I am reminded now of why.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 months

What a beauty this book is. It is available (finally) today. It is an odd thing to release a honed craft into this grasping world. It enters a place next to toppled heroes and spiritual carnival barkers. But there are also poets among us. @SaraHagerty

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

One thing I am sick and tired of: People using the word TENANT when they mean TENET

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

And you shall know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

This is the hidden subtext of so much of the frustration arising from the IHOPKC world, and it's so important. There are standards to spiritual leadership that go much beyond "due process" concerns.

H.L.Griffin- #ACNAtoo I NOPE because I hoped

@hlgriffin

10 months

@Juliehere4YANG @Andrew_Faletti @jdlongenecker @The_ACNA People who can't or won't defend the sheep when the wolves attack are not ready to be shepherds. I can have compassion for them about their own pain, but they shouldn't be in charge until their capacities grow.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@kaitlynblosser You have *no* idea how long I've waited for these lol. Honestly, been waiting for this kind of public clarity for about 4 years.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

Thank you for modeling the proper kind of leadership in a spiritual community @DBarkleyBriggs

D. Barkley Briggs

@DBarkleyBriggs

10 months

Leadership is being tested, including mine. Because public trust is at an all time low, personal humility, character and trustworthiness must increase. And not just a little. Leaders don't receive trust, we earn it. We all have to up our game.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@EricVolz This is a start. Not nearly enough, but it is definitely a different tone and direction.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

@DBarkleyBriggs THANK YOU Dean. From the bottom of my heart. This was so refreshing. It's about time @ZionConsultTeam and Peter got recognition for the valiant love by which they've been fighting now for 2.5+ YEARS on this stuff

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 months

1 Timothy 5:20 Getting worldwide acclamation immediately makes you eligible for worldwide reproof.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

This man's book is very helpful.

chuck degroat

@chuckdegroat

9 months

In my work with narcissistic leaders really seeking to do the inner work, they’ll invariably begin to notice how their power/grandiosity/control/etc. worked for them + be struck by how it long acted as a drug to anesthetize them to early feelings of shame and powerlessness.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@tom_pureheart @Joannathelee I reached a similar point and blocked her. She is relentlessly in defense of those with proven ill intent. I do believe there is some kind of mental illness involved.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@realprophetguy See, this doesn't have to be that difficult.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

4 years

Science and data.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

That scene in the courtroom at the end of "A Few Good Men"? you know the one. Thought about that a little tonight.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

I would add that this is true of any organization, even including businesses. How we handle crisis tells so many stories that nothing else could. This speech from @wademullen at the @reachjulieroys Restore conference is SO. IMPORTANT.

Joel Richardson

@Joel7Richardson

10 months

When leaders of any ministry are faced with scandals or crisis, most have no idea what to do. Thankfully there are some very highly experienced.voices out there who have provided guidance. I hope IHOPKC ELT will listen. Responding Well to a Scandal

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

It's a huge blessing to get a Publisher's Weekly review. And it's a good one 😌

The Gift of Limitations: Finding Beauty in Your Boundaries by Sara Hagerty

“Within the boundaries we resent there is a life that is limitless,” according to this gentle and lyrical outing from Hagerty (A...

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@venablefour It has moved past "utterly heartbreaking" into "astoundingly tone deaf" and is now nearing "malevolently punitive". FRIENDS! (You know who you are.) PLEASE STOP.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@thehoodpress @bozlawpa Such an important point. So glad you spoke up with it.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@blaiseforet @JBoeglXrucianis @JBoeglXrucianis -- I implore you as your friend to absorb the comments around your reply. This is the form and appearance of empathy and care, but it is v wide of the mark without relational knowledge. Please consider pulling back from aggressive "father" advice w/o relationship

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 months

I read this same copy 35 years ago, heart thumping and soul stirred. Here I am reading it to my 10 year old Bo and feeling all the feels.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@Joannathelee "maybe" indeed. Delete this original post because I promise that you are not prepared for the flood of firsthand witnesses to these events that might even change your mind. And clearly you aren't prepared for THAT.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@iwonabednarzpl Elizabeth Herder @ZionConsultTeam ... now on the AG. And a complete and total baller.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@JaysonCarr There was actually a reason for this. A few of us were bringing some explosive things to leaders at the time. This is also around the same time that Mike stepped out of the (official) org chart.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 months

@AaronBack22 @ChandiHeenan This is so patient, wise and kind. 👏🏼 I had blocked her some time ago after many vile and obtuse comments (veiled in biblical language).

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

Just got out of a meeting with dear friends, and I see this place is just as petty as it often is. 'Night.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@Joannathelee Because the wife took out a bogus TRO and (under oath) cited 1) When he punched a mattress during an argument five years previous when she refused to stop taking daily lunches to MB out of their own pocket 2) When he punched the wall when presented with evidence of her adultery

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

@Joel7Richardson @starcazm @AleseDeere @alterofinquiry @7MountainsInc @blaiseforet @ChristinaForet I think he's just a crazy person who filed a bogus lien

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

Man, I loved this.

EZ Rider🌻🇺🇸🦅

@EZRideryoyall

9 months

In case you didn’t get to see it, here is the full video of Tracy Chapman and Luke Combs singing “Fast Car” at the Grammys

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@itsjohnny_pd @EricVolz it is indeed, *almost* as if they don't have any relational equity with stakeholders around the movement. Nah, that can't be it.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@Joel7Richardson True story though: Corner Mexican on Main is the best Mexican in the metro and I will fight anyone on this. Also, there is a defense contractor that helps build jets. And a caboose lying around somewhere. And Truman's dilapidated farm. So ... kinda true??? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@zackhensleyaz @realprophetguy @DavidFish7 Emotions are high, and @realprophetguy , I can vouch that Zack is on an authentic journey. We're all tired, angry, and wrung out. And I think we will all have much for which to reckon and repent.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@EricVolz Now having looked at the report, I am much less encouraged. Junior grade stuff that indicates very little investigative curiosity. Yikes.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@DBarkleyBriggs Co-sign.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

"The first condition that the enemy of salvation makes with a soul which he desires to seduce is to keep silence... whereas God, on the other hand, by his inspirations, requires that we should make them known." Francis de Sales

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 months

Please consider helping this very worthy family in great need:

Stand with the Dunstans: Health & Home Relief, organized by Susan Tuma

Dear Friends, I'm reaching out on behalf of two incredible people, Courtn… Susan Tuma needs your support for Stand with the Dunstans: Health & Home Relief

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@Steven236825341 @EricVolz @bozlawpa Yes that woman is a hero. I've heard her speak before, and it's horribly similar to what has been happening at IHOPKC

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 months

@JenniferVerdery I'd say someone with a *demonstrated* ability to have walked through their failure and humiliation and come out the other side -- changed. This is the cross. But amen, amen re: the quiet life.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

@Joannathelee @EricVolz Oh, it was certainly ABOUT her, which is what made his response frustrating. Her response in this thread sheds more light. I know it's hard to discern things from overseas where you are, but there are histories and relationships here you don't understand.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

@ZionConsultTeam You know how we Hagerty's feel about you and Peter. You're great ones on the earth, for REAL

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@hope344308 Seen in this light, that man is one of the greatest men in this entire mess. And this is all so devastating.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@LucaBrasi_ I assure you that nobody involved wants me to start bringing forth the specific evidence that would cause your yarn to fall horribly apart. This is not the place and the time and you are demonstrably the wrong person to whom it will be given.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

@brent_steeno @Joel7Richardson All in good time.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

This is the best encapsulation of the current moment at #IHOPKC @DrSuzzle nails it. "The inward-focus here, the “we’re doing it our way, and we know we have it right and don’t care that victims of abuse do not feel safe” statement is, in itself, traumatic.

Send in the clowns... don't bother, they're here

and they're heading up podiums and meeting rooms from Kansas City to Strang Media

drsuzzle.substack.com

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@venablefour My heart breaks over the families at the center of this. The children and the teens, the ones who have been so sadly brainwashed. It is so grievous. Lord, may their eyes be opened by this VERY CLEAR demonstration of what occurred to them as well, but in another.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@thehoodpress @allenshood This was so so grievous

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 months

@Jhunterjones I remember seeing that, and I had some small knowledge of what was coming ... and it was deeply deeply disturbing. Still is.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

Just to be clear: A tenet is a principle held as being true, especially by an organization or a group. A tenant is (1) someone who pays rent to occupy property; (2) a dweller in a place (3) in law, one who holds or possesses lands, tenements, or property by any kind of title.

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Nate Hagerty

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10 months

@Calebculver @DavidFish7 @sammieleemusic @7MountainsInc @ihopkc From what I understand, he's pausing overnight because many were concerned that rushing info to the public would endanger trust and felt safety for other Jane Does and traumatized ones.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 years

This is opening up MASSIVE ideas for changing how we work, AND pushing us completely over to #Basecamp3 . From my great friend @shawnblanc

Jason Fried

@jasonfried

8 years

All 6 previous workshops sold out within a day, so don’t miss out. A detailed review from a recent attendee:

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Nate Hagerty

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9 months

@ZionConsultTeam You guys are absolute heroes of the faith.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@JBoeglXrucianis this will never not astound me, that people could genuinely hold this position.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

@Joannathelee @EricVolz I'm not sure I'd characterize Elizabeth's involvement here as "relational dysfunction". Not sure if that's what you intended to imply. She's been continuously mischaracterized and misquoted behind the scenes here though, of which I have dozens of firsthand experiences.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

"Thus men will lie on their backs, talking about the fall of man, and never make an effort to get up." Henry David Thoreau

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

@malachiobrien @EricVolz @reachjulieroys Certainly appreciate your evident care for this place. But does this not raise equal questions about the ELT and its actions since being given testimonial and other evidence themselves?

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@Joannathelee @LauraSlezinger Lady, you will answer for this before heaven one day, and you aren't gonna be pleased. But do keep going. I'm grateful for the chance to set the record straight and continue to reveal your foolishness.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@MatthewHartke Let the screenshots roll like a tide. That's all we have anyway since he dirty deleted and blocked many of us. This stuff aged like milk a couple months ago.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@itsjohnny_pd @stuartgreaves @EricVolz As usual, you hit the nail on the head here

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

10 months

@bennettisaac When you write "Let the sinful be confronted…and restored"... do you also see that this specific process is also what has caused so much great pain? You know of one situation that caused us pain... but there seems to be much more still.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@toldbyanidiot2 That's the stage I want to get to

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@Joannathelee What is your evidence for this claim?

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

9 months

@MatthewHartke @zackhensleyaz @SieNoel @realprophetguy @DavidFish7 Proud of you both. This is the way.

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Nate Hagerty

@natehagerty

8 months

@jessetaitt I'll want to think on this one more ... it's a holistic issue -- related to character, pain, story, actual wisdom. You, my friend, are on the right track. One that comes to mind applicable for many would be "Extreme Ownership" by @jockowillink

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