“Many people hear voices when no one is there.
Some of them are called mad and are shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day.
Others are called writers and they do pretty much the same thing.”
— Margaret Chittenden
@Jedidiahhartley
I don't personally know you, Jedidiah, but many of my friends do. I cannot fathom how painful this situation has been for you. Your courage and clarity is absolutely what we all need more of in these times. You are what leaders look like. Thank you.
I used to love the Beveres, but have not in the "love their ministry" sense for years. Now I can't even respect Lisa. Seriously, maybe cancel that speaking engagement at Gateway, and stop acting like you're being holy. Your defense of child molestation is anything but holy.
Lisa Bevere chimes in on
#metoo
and the
#mikebickle
and Robert Morris child sex abuse crimes, saying Christians aren't to judge ministers because everyone is guilty of something and God used nations to judge Israel but then God judged those nations so stay out of it.
#churchtoo
Even if all the allegations suddenly were proven NOT to be true, I’d still have zero respect or honor left for
#ihopkc
and
#mikebickle
. The way they’ve chosen to handle this, with utter arrogance, pride, pushback, and belligerence runs afoul to everything they claimed to value.
The letter from
#mikebickle
. It’s the same tone as his letter to JD’s husband. Passive-aggressive threats. Emojis. “I would never…” (but I will).
How tragic to keep learning daily that
#ihopkc
was built on perverted lies. How do we recover from this. My “heart’s home” was a
The story is out. I've known details for weeks (months really, many did).
@reachjulieroys
verified the facts (which I couldn't do in my case). There's more, but this is the truth. I'll refrain from further comment for the moment.
#ihopkc
#MikeBickle
#mistyedwards
@EricVolz
@Rpanozzo88
Hi, Eric, are you aware that it is standard for abuse victims not to be named publicly by the media (), and that Tammy is more of an exception than a rule? I agree that it is courageous. Tammy no longer lives near Mike, and has a very different type of
I purposely included the handle of
@BrumbackMike5
when I made my previous posts because I knew he would block me, hoping this would "hide" him. This is because I called out his handle as I called on
@X
,
@XSecurity
,
@Support
, and
@YouTube
to block Brumback and examine him for
@seanfeucht
.Sir, you have three fingers pointing back at you.
You diction denotes a tone of anger, bitterness, and judgement. You’re raising a gavel on the masses.
Perhaps it is you who should eschew Twitter for a time.
The gap between struggling with sin vs. pedophilia and sexual abuse is as wide as the gap between the path to hell and the hope of the cross. To be clear, it is never, not once, appropriate to designate a pedophile or sex abuser as an average repentant sinner.
Defending
@seanfeucht
.Another sick predator apologist. For the millionth time (or so it seems) time, KING DAVID REPENTED. He did not molest and abuse a middle school girl and then keep this behavior for 40+ years. Bickle did not start the entire prayer movement, but he invalidated this one.
#IHOPKC
Suggestions if
#IHOPKC
really means repentance.
- The ELT should sign their names to their email(s): Who believes Jane and Tammy and now TH? Who repents? A place? "The Leadership Team"? Who are you? Say it, own it. Show us you are different and truly living in repentance*
-
Isaac Bennett has, indeed, resigned from IHOPKC. A letter sent to supporters includes the following (below). Takeaways:
1) Bennett family made the right decision
2) The
#IHOPKC
board made it clear for them somehow--but isn't providing help for his/their faithful service. Big
@shaneholden1970
Shane, I get that you are emotionally exhausted, and do not want to talk. I understand why you are sharing this. I’m sure you know that board members of a tax exempt nonprofit should be public information out of sheer respect, and IHOPKC has attempted to shield the public from
Got a message that Church Watch Central had picked this up. A year ago I would have found this weird. Now it makes sense. I hope any misuse of money is found and made right.
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
@JaneDoeGroup
Fine. Whatever. But stop mocking actual abuse victims. What awful gall and lack of conscience this shows to mock people who have suffered. Disgusting.
Also, you commented. That was a comment.
@kvministries
You’re conflating legitimate healing, loving, acceptance, and restoration with inviting a sexual offender and predator into a community of 10K.
I love that you can have a mental breakdown and be welcomed. I adore that the homeless and broken can be accepted. This is not the
Sorry, Che, I do NOT identify with child abusers and groomers and pedophiles. Of course, I identify with sinning, but you know, I can honestly say that I have never ONCE been slightly tempted to consider this type of behavior. Sexual deviance of this nature is not some normal
Che Ahn chimes in on
#churchtoo
and instructs his followers to forgive serial child sex abuser pastors and implies, if it weren't for the grace of God, we'd all be child abusers and serial groomers like Robert Morris and Mike Bickle. (The edits are theirs, not mine)
Want to know what a leader looks like? What courage looks like? What strength looks like? Here you go. Can you imagine what cost it comes at to say this about your own father? Truth is that important, though. Especially now. It always sets us free.
1/🧵I have never known how to address this publicly, but it has become clear that is time for me to speak up
My dad, Bob Hartley, who has been an influential prophetic figure in both
#IHOPKC
and
#Bethel
church is a complete fraud. His prophetic ministry has always been a con.
One was 14. One was 19. We don't know all the others or their ages. We do know he was a grown man, a pastor, a leader, a predator.
#MikeBickle
, you were my hero, but now you disgust me. You are not David; he repented. May justice be served.
#IBelieveTammy
#IHOPKC
#IHOPKCtoo
Fabulous story by
@judylthomas
Time to look closely at every single claim they made. Shame on all of you who lied to us. If it was an accident, apologize (like some have). Double down theology is anti-Jesus.
#ihopkc
#Mikebickle
"It blows my mind." A decades-old prophecy promoted by embattled IHOPKC founder Mike Bickle that has been repeatedly recited by charismatic leaders to rally believers was based on information that isn’t true, The Star has learned.
@dwaynearoberts
@EricVolz
I'm sorry to hear that your good-faith efforts were not received as such. We are so thankful for you standing strong and fighting for truth and justice. This is what we always considered to be the heart of the prayer movement in many ways; you have all upheld it.
One
#MikeBickle
legend was you couldn’t email him a web link but had to copy & paste all the text into the email:
“Mike won’t click on links so he can protect his eye gate from accidentally seeing something.”
Okay. So he wanted to wait and see it on purpose. Got it.
#ihopkc
@charismamag
@BishopJakes
@PsRobertMorris
@drtonyevans
You’re an embarrassment to real journalists and real Christians everywhere. You’re disgusting. I dare say Jesus has a few choice words for your defense of those who cause the children to stumble. You make me sick. I hate everything you stand for, Charisma. Because it’s not truth.
Here's what I have so far since no one replied back🙃. My favorite thing I should be sound asleep, and that's where I am headed. Share and share alike! Good night all! (uh, morning)
#IHOPKC
#IHOPU
#MikeBickle
Well,
@kvministries
no, you don’t have much of a life if you are a coward when it comes go making a statement against clergy sex abuse and pedophilia. God gave you a public platform over millions for a reason. How absolutely tragic you’re afraid to speak now that people need it.
Send me screenshots of being blocked by IHOPKC leaders. I'd like to include a few in an upcoming post. If you'd like to include the last thing you said before the block, I'll include the whole tweet.
People who have known me for 15 years or so will tell you Robert Morris always gave me the creepies. I didn’t know why. But I never liked him. He and
#mikebickle
clearly read the same books. Or wrote one. 😡
@EricVolz
Eric, if you don't mind my asking, looking at the typical 4 stages of crisis response usually viewed by crisis managers (recognizing some say 3-5), we are still looking at the mid-level "during crisis" response section. There doesn't seem any grid in PR or strategic management
Over a decade ago, I taught a Bible study on dance/ worship, then published the study into a narrative form, mostly for worship teams and churches. Because that study cited
#IHOPKC
and
#MikeBickle
, I have unpublished all editions until I am able to revise and remove all the
@realprophetguy
@Mike_Hixenbaugh
@OlenGriffing
They knew. I don't have ALL the details but I have talked to someone who knew. They are lying. And I swear, since we have just been through (and are still going through) this, it is already sounding way too familiar!😡
1) A lot of unanswered questions here.
2) A lot of innocent people who made next to nothing who now make nothing (please offer those people compassion).
#ihopkc
@alterofinquiry
He's reading a script, which it doesn't even sound as if he wrote. Not trauma-informed, definitely trauma-inflicting, and also more of the reactionary outburst response that has become the mark of this once "go low/be humble" ministry. He just sounds cranky and angry.
@alterofinquiry
@judylthomas
@mikebickle
Stephen, I know I’m getting bits and pieces here as I pop in, but I’m reallly sorry you and
@AleseDeere
have to keep explaining another man’s deception. Your family has clearly suffered enough, and your father seems to have walked in as much integrity as he possibly could have.
@BrumbackMike5
@YouTube
.Mike, you need to be aware that there is a limit to how much you can say about a private citizen, and your nonstop lies about Jane are slanderous. Further, the doxxing and online crimes, in which you may or may not be complicit (I certainly cannot know), have been reported to
"Oh what a tangled web we weave/ When first we practice to deceive." -Sir Walter Scott
We're angry, devastated, broken, even raging over the nonstop lies, abuse, and the resulting symptoms. I can't help but ponder how the web of deceit of
#MikeBickle
and his cohorts sparked this
The quiet quitclaim property transfer from the IRS tax-exempt IHOPKC to the domestic FOR-PROFIT LLC, which lists Joseph Taylor, IHOPKC’s executive director, makes lots more sense in light of how important this property is for Bickle.
#IHOPKC
#MikeBickle
Hey
@bishopboone
I know more about your style than you wish I did.
Take your fellowships of this and that, and walk them back to the Stone Age.
IHOPKC should have issued a trigger warning for this. Then again, abusive systems hire abusive systems. 😡🙃
This one is personal.
@ahailstone
Absolutely. I hope we get to see more of these emails that he’s sent. He outs himself better than anyone else could. People like him always do.
@starcazm
The fact I know too many of the people on that stage, the utter shame I have stood on a stage with some of them, the disgust that it was all a lie.. I can't even go there tonight. But I'm going there. And Cindy and Dutch especially make me angry these days, for other reasons.
@EricVolz
@mistydedwards
The fact that you have to qualify trauma-informed with quotation marks is disturbing. My writing professors taught us that we should use those sparingly in writing, as they showed a reader we were apologizing for the term we quoted, in a sense, saying we didn't believe it.
What the crap?!?!?
Why is there no recourse for irresponsible “journalism”? I love that we have freedom of speech and the press but until real Christians cancel their fluff subs to this utter crap with its false prophecies and poor writing, nothing will change.
@abele_amy95291
Yes! This too! He twists her words around. Diane was always classy and gracious--certainly appeared so. Thus, by saying she disapproved, it held extra weight of disappointment. Pure evil.
I briefly knew Pablo in his last year there. I joined that team often on Fridays, unofficially, and loved being in the briefing room with them. Pablo was the real deal then--and obviously still is now. Read the thread.
My name is Pablo Perez - Worship leader at
@ihopkc
from 2001 to 2013. Director of IHOPU's Forerunner Music Academy from 2010 to 2013. And my social media silence of 10+ years is over...👇 (1/8)
@blaiseforet
I am hearing that there is a surprising holdout to the third party. I have heard that twice now. It makes me think that someone(s) would be influencing that holdout.
@ihopkc
My respectful question to you is why you and
@EricVolz
, acting in his official capacity, persist in blocking people who are NOT swearing, name calling, etc., but sometimes just asking questions. Blocking is an aggressive social media act. Biblical principles wouldn’t back that.
My student teachers get up early every day & go to the Capitol (at their expense). They could be laze around; we’d never know it. But they care too much. They're called to teach & are fighting for their students now & in the future. They’re fighting for education.
#oklaedwalkout
Excellent post from Joanna. I’m sorry to say I never understood what I suppose I probably was assenting to “believe.” I don’t. This is dangerous. There’s one God. I’m not him. Neither are you. This abuse of power has proven a stepping stone for… well, abuse.
#ihopkc
#MikeBickle
Been stewing on "Manifest Sons of God" for about a week after a
@Joel7Richardson
post, and finally published a Medium draft. It is imperfect and not comprehensive, but I think we need to talk about MSG in light of the
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
stuff.
@JenniferVerdery
yes. It's disgusting. She acts like some know-it-all who wants us to calm down for saying molesting 12-year old children, or even 14, 15 year old girls--EVEN A 19 YEAR OLD TEENAGER--is wrong. No,
@LisaBevere
it's you. You are wrong. There's nothing extra-spiritual about that.
I saw some ask yesterday: Has anyone reached out to Jane, Tammy, or TH personally from IHOPKC? Further, has anyone from
#IHOPKC
, in an official capacity reached out to past SA victims in steps of repentance?
I also find it interesting the contrast between statement reactions from Corey Russell and Lou Engle. The former was met with cynicism at being so late to speak, while the latter spoke in response to learning a petition was forming and “ugly things were being said.” 1/2
@DunningAwen
Oh! You’re going to love my next post (not the one I just posted, but the one on prophecy and all the twisting!) That said, lots of people will NOT love it 😂
@IamRickJoyner
.I’m losing patience with people like you. You’re a fraud, an absolute sham, who manipulates the times and seasons for your own profit. You’re disgusting. Jesus has a term for people who do things the way you do them. I think he likens it to vomit in the original language. You
@abele_amy95291
@johnnarae
@isierranichole
.Hence the selling of RBC? Since they do own their buildings, it seems they need to do something. And
@bozlawpa
needs to file his JD suit if asking for financial settlement is part. These JDs deserve therapy, relief, and restitution.
Also, let’s be real, everyone. This is why
Just when you think someone can't say something dumber than he already said. The lowest? It appears commenters find slavery a lower point in U.S. history of than 12 jurors weighing evidence and finding a man guilty.
#CultMindest
Remember the last cult-acquiescent statement:
@jeff_rake
.YOU ARE A TEASE! We’re dying here. And we’re not waiting 5.5 years to come back to life! The torture of the wait! Cannot believe how much I care about a TV show…
#Manifest
#SaveManifest
@jessie_thinker
Someone emailed him privately to let him know things were being said and to tell him that possibly people were going to protest his message. It appears that this statement was released as a response. I am making an assumption of course. But the timing is very connected.
Y'all! School has been out a couple weeks. Wrapping up my new venture (creative idea for a new project at work I'm getting set to go in August). Yet again, I said yes to AP grading because they gave us a big raise... All of you who keep tracking with all this drama daily impress
Realizing how easy it would have been to teach college students rhetorical analysis if I’d been able to use “Christian Prophetic Manipulation” as a topic and bring in copies of
#MikeBickle
’s letters as examples of bad rhetoric, prior to using real examples of well-crafted prose.
We’re two weeks away from the
#oklaedwalkout
and the news is reporting some of the legislators were out for spring break. You have got to me kidding me! They only work 65 days a year anyway—and make way more than the teachers they’ve not funded for a decade.
#oklaed
#okleg
@AprilRose189
Where will you move when you sell your house? If you keep making long public videos, everyone will know you anywhere.
Incidentally, voice is a key element of writing. Your voice doesn’t match the script you’re speaking. Be you, April. Just be you.
@charisma_news
@AuthorTroyBlack
@gatewayworship
Your "prophetic" record is so bad that 1-900-PSY-CHIC would not hire you. Surely there much be some regulations on the crap pass off as journalism. Because it stinks like you are passing something, all right.
Here we go, folks. "Her allegations, which some say are the most damning to surface yet about Bickle and come after four decades of silence, are the first claims that involve sexual abuse of a minor. She alleges the abuse began when she was a babysitter for Bickle’s two young
@jessie_thinker
@alterofinquiry
From what I understand, it's not necessarily Mike, but again, I have little info YET. And yes, they are likely in crisis mode. That much is probably the case here.
@gabriel_hancock
@carkkrac
@ihopkc
We ALL should have. You're one I know only by name, not personally, but we are all feeling this. No shame! Now you are doing all you can.
Dear
#okleg
,
I invite you to trade places w/a public school teacher for a week and then to deny teachers a raise—assuming you make it a week. Teachers are degreed and licensed professionals.Emergency certifications are an embarrassment to a classy profession. So are you.
#oklaed
IHOPKC leaders should write a book about steps toxic Christian communities can take to fail miserably in protecting those with less power while also marginalizing & vilifying others who bring darkness to light. It all begins with a leadership that embraces arrogance & ignorance.
@AleseDeere
Alese, you are the one thing I am not: succinct. That is exactly correct, and you did not need a long post to say it. I cannot wait to listen. I love Tammy. I love her because she is a wonderful human being. I am in awe of how she is managing to love Jesus and help run a HOP in
@AprilRose189
. The truth is that
@AprilRose189
is not trying to get past all of that IHOP stuff that she says she is, or her videos would not appear with the hashtags that we are all using when we post about IHOPKC and Mike Bickle. If she wants to address concerns and talk to people about
I was almost finished with a totally separate post when this happened. Now it’s 2:30 a.m. I need to eat and sleep. I wish some people in KC would behave so I could have a life, but also, I'm fed up with this baloney. Next post soon!
#IHOPKC
Bennett lauds accused abusers Jones and Bickle, elevates Israel prayer priority—even as parents are told teens will no longer have "pastoral support, or spiritual oversight"
#IHOPKC
#ForerunnerChurch
#MikeBickle
"Forerunner Farce: A play that celebrates its own characters"--Forerunner Church's final service: a self-aggrandizing, tone-deaf, bless-fest, with multiple allusions to a fall relaunch.
#IHOPKC
#ForerunnerChurch
#MikeBickle