I have been blocked by the spokesperson of the
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
investigation by
#tikkunglobal
after I repeatedly called out the points of possible conflicts of interest and asked if he would make contracts and comms public. Victims MUST be informed before speaking with them.
🔔 REQUEST: If you know of staff who are leaving
#IHOPKC
specifically because of the scandal and who are struggling financially because of it. I am collecting Venmo handles to put into a document to give to ex IHOPers who want to support them. Please DM me.
Reminder that
@EricVolz
and
#IHOPKC
mocked your pain and suffering by using cricket emojis, calling us armchair investigators who were causing social media… respectfully “activity”, and repeatedly blame-shifting to the advocate party. WE DO NOT TRUST THEM TO PUT THINGS IN ORDER.
Most people harmed by
#ihopkc
were not harmed by
#mikebickle
or Misty Edwards directly. They were harmed by those underneath them who reinforced the toxic culture. Yet these will mostly go free without having to pay for their actions whatsoever. These names need to be named also.
Mark Slezinger was the man whose wife cheated on him allegedly with both
#MikeBickle
and eventually passed to
#LukeBickle
. He was spoken about at length on the AG YouTube channel: . I did not know Mark but he always seemed like a kind soul to me at
#ihopkc
.
@EricVolz
Sorry what in the name of self-aggrandizing flying golden apostolic chariots is this minimal level of transparency you want to be praised for? You are literally a Christian ministry not a secular business.
@edgykristina
Thank you for graduating the top of your class, now please remember that what you REALLY want, what you are, if you are married, is a mother. Most of the time everything else is a lie! Sorry if you got a professional degree. It’s useless. 😘 happy graduation! - the weakest man
What hurt(s) many people much worse than
#IHOPKC
than its leaders was the community itself. Minimizing, policing, toning down, softening, being passive, staying silent, toxic positivity etc. all of these behaviors constitutes community betrayal, personal betrayal, a 2nd trauma
@ihopkc
PUBLICLY COMMIT TO A REAL INDEPENDENT MUTUALLY AGREED UPON THIRD PARTY INVESTIGATION OF THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE ORGS & STAFF BY TOMORROW AND KEEP ALL DIGITAL RECORDS SECURE AND ON WATCH. ALLOW NO ONE TO DELETE EMAILS. DOCUMENT ALL DECISION MAKING. DISCLOSE ALL BOARD MEMBERS ETC
Let it be made known far and wide that
@DrMichaelLBrown
defends the fairness and righteousness of NDAs for Christian leaders and ministry. Says that “it’s not my business” to disclose what may have been clergy abuse.
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@reachjulieroys
@bozlawpa
@HeavenBentPod
What exactly are “the prophetic” or the “gifts of the spirit” good for if they
can be “grown” with thousands of hours of prayer and practice but literally not detect an alleged child molester as your executive director? Yet you INSIST we believe your magic.
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
Mike actually had to tell staff at one point not to go to the state for assistance because it was happening often. I actually did myself once and when I talked to the case worker about where I worked they said “oh we get people from there all the time”.
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
@csa7777
Isaac Bennett lives in a 4,900 square foot house valued at $419k. In GRANDVIEW, where the average home value is $200k. Most of the
@ihopkc
staff/students who are enabling Isaac’s lifestyle live WELL BELOW average or even poverty standards. It’s disgusting!
#IHOPKC
#MikeBickle
It is shameful that hardly anyone is talking about shutting it down once & for all as a serious option. Most people want to see it revitalized. So tragic and disgraceful to survivors, victims and the public. And for what / who?
I’ll be backing off from X activity on
#IHOPKC
My hope was that I could speak from the “IHOP is a cult” side of things since there aren’t many of those voices. Many are grifting their charismatic or abuse crisis activism careers. I hope survivors see my voice as a clear line… 🧵
Another great metaphor of
#ihopkc
and frankly most of these charismatic communities is Neverland. They are places you go to never grow up or learn how to deal with life effectively. They are escapes from reality.
#MikeBickle
@EricVolz
How is it professional for a crisis management firm to be taken aback by the public accusing it of spin and complaining about their job? You took on a case that had HUGE controversy & impact. You either did not do due diligence or aren’t suited for this.
#DavidHouse
#IHOPKC
If you were a leader at ihop - you knew. You probably did not know about
#mikebickle
SAs. But you knew the history of emotional and spiritual abuse at IHOP by its leaders. You likely had a personal friend or many who were emotionally / spiritually abused. Yet you stayed.
#ihopkc
It is my opinion that
#IHOPKC
#MikeBickle
via
@EricVolz
and thugs are engaging in a full on deception campaign of psychological warfare with a deceptive veneer of Christianity, positivity, niceness, “Christian unity”, and “dialogue” to manipulate sincere people. It’s pure evil.
@ihopkc
So odd! I wonder WHY they don't cooperate with IHOP's selected "third party investigators"? It's almost like they feel they have substantive reasons to be mistrusting toward IHOP! But of course, we wont talk about any of that. We will just paint it as them being uncooperative.
@EricVolz
Are we right to be infuriated that you presume to want positive attention for banning
#BobHartley
when it took you YEARS of being aware of his unwanted advances on women and then only after immense pressure from activists? Ex staff, students, and interns like me want answers.
#IHOPKC
@EricVolz
#StuartGreaves
and others who knew but said nothing have participated in one of the most atrocious examples of institutional betrayal on top of the betrayal of
#MikeBickle
by turning our pain into an unnecessary childish game focused exclusively protecting IHOP
#IHOPKC
You betrayed your victims, survivors, community, the public, your donors, young people, parents and countless others by not calling for the resignation of Stuart, Mike, or others until now. You should be ashamed. You have added more damage w/ games, bullshit, triteness.
What Mike knew was that you do not have to do it directly. If you engender feelings of elitism and uniqueness indirectly through other messaging - people do this themselves. Even if they never "cut off" others, there is a closing of their minds.
#IHOPKC
#MikeBickle
Apparently, according to
@ericvolz
, if a parishioner seduces a clergy member, and the clergy member complies, they are not committing clergy abuse? I am so utterly confused by why Eric said this.
-
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
@7MountainsInc
@EricVolz
@ihopkc
@mikebickle
There needs to be more details than what they are sharing which thus far is vague beyond belief and anything but clear. It’s not about curiosity. It’s never been about outing victims. It’s about accountability; and truth for the members / ex members / public. For Everyone to heal
What on earth could possibly be so precious as to not reach out immediate for negotiations and apologies? What are they hiding? What are they protecting? I don’t mean to fear monger but it does seem like this is going to get MUCH darker.
#ihopkc
#MikeBickle
@benpanders0n
Whatever they are protecting is INCREDIBLY valuable to them. What could they possibly lose more than what they already lost / will lose?!
In cults there are the really nice super duper sweet leaders that enable more visibly evil people to do their work. And guess what? They talk. You need bad & good cops to abuse the people. The sweet leaders ARE willing to help the abuse happen & benefit but w/ less risk.
#ihopkc
Internal messaging from IHOPKC worship leaders is calling for a 7 day fast and labeling the scandal a distraction. Calls for prayer for “founder”.
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@HeavenBentPod
@judylthomas
@reachjulieroys
Remember the survivors of the Southern Baptist Convention as their betrayers keep betraying them non stop. The leaders hate the light and run from it lest their evil deeds be exposed.
#sbctoo
This kind of thing was routine at
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
There are numerous stories like this exact one. This is a cult folks. And if you think Mike was the only cult leader and no one on the AG engaged in this you are in grave error.
20 people independently coming to you not having spoken to each other but having precise similar stories of having observed some event - would you believe them? OR would you require video evidence to merely socially accept their claim (not in a court room)?
#IHOPKC
#MikeBickle
Groups like
#IHOPKC
keep communities disempowered by eroding trust of mainstream knowledge, distracting from cognitive dissonance, punishing skepticism, and lifting up the leader. None of this is explicit but it is also not random. Leaders are shaping behavior constantly.
@blaiseforet
In a way, all of us former and current ihopers were prophetically groomed by Bickle, down to his last sermon on accusation. Unraveling this deception is mind boggling and traumatic.I feel like I believed a lie for a decade and we will never know how deep and twisted it goes.
Armchairs: this is what happens when we ask for lists of things that may not be THE most important. They will pick one thing from the long list which is the absolute least painful, do part to win“transparency” points. Rinse repeat. Cumulative image repair.
#IHOPKC
#MikeBickle
Listen to Nathan and Rachel Steel’s letter appealing (in vain) and describing to the ELT how their handling the allegations impacted them. These are leaders that stayed through the Deaton controversy and FB storms associated - they did NOT wish to leave.
#IHOPKC
#MikeBickle
For those who think there is nothing cultish about the “prayer movement”, you’re wrong. It is an intrinsically elitist term which sets you apart from the “nominal Christian”. That’s what charismatic revivalism does by definition, a reason it attracts people.
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
I grew up in a house of prayer movement completely disconnected to
#ihopkc
, whatever happens to this place does not affect God’s plans in the earth. The prayer movement doesn’t end with Bickle, to assume that is cripplingly narrow sighted and overinflated self-importance frankly
In my opinion this everything until now was to delay delay delay before absolutely being by required to do something. And then, to get the best deal possible for Mike, Stuart and IHOPKC. There has been enough info to separate from both of them for a long time.
#IHOPKC
I was friends with the 5 and lived with the leader. I was in many strategy sessions. This was the last of exhausting effort after innumerable attempts to get leaders to pay attention. For Mike it was the first meeting, but we knew it was going to likely be the last.
#ihopkc
#ihopkc
ELT has KNOWN
#MikeBickle
impropriety is real but
@TheDavidHouse
#ihopkc
#KurtFuller
REFUSE to conduct an independent third party investigation unless THEY personally know all details up front before a neutral party comes in?! They are 100% CLEARLY hiding from the truth.
“The Executive Director and I met with members of the Advocate Group today on this very topic.
This option is still on the table.”
@EricVolz
This is what the IHOP attorney emailed to me just two days ago….you be the judge. 1/4
Steve Magnusson
@7mountainsinc
has confusingly shut down their account after I called out their spirit of Jezebel comment and NAR doctrine name. There goes all his “advocacy” content?
Joining the
#idontwanttostandanywherenearmaya
club. I’ve also been in the medical science club for a while now, which admits there is no single universal indicator for which binary sex a person is / has.TERFs are going to have get a more nuanced argument or stop science pandering
@BobSorge
Your silence for these months was all we needed to know. Nothing you say will be believed at this point by the discerning and responsible humans. Although irresponsible ones will praise you starting now.
Thank you
@TaraJeanOnline
and
@HeavenBentPod
for this latest
#IHOPKC
episode. Hearing Jael talk about Jane’s story here is absolutely essential to grasping her heart, who
#MikeBickle
is, and why the org exists as it does today. Thank you Jane and Jael.
Apparently it is possible that
#LukeBickle
may be living with
@BobHartley
#BobHartley
based upon live video footage of Bob's where you can hear Luke's voice in the background. Could this be why Bob isn't banned from
#IHOPKC
but merely can't have a mic?
I am a broken record but we cannot trust the nepo baby princes and princesses of
#ihopkc
as many of them appear almost as in denial as their parents about their parent’s cult leader statuses & understandably highly protective of their families’ privileges and names.
#mikebickle
@masonmennenga
Frankly veggie tales was one of the most brilliant and remotely ethical content coming out of the evangelical movement. And actually well done.
Things that make you “feminine” in charismatic ministry: caring about children, caring about women, caring about the disabled, caring about mental health, caring about health, caring about abuse, caring about literally anything other than ideas or performing for crowds.
#ihopkc
If you can do what Mike did, imagine what else you can fabricate to be God and get charismatics to believe you! Maybe there is a problem with things at a fundamental lvl if it can be this easily faked. Don’t be fooled x2 like I was.
—
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
Do you know why some people have so much rage against injustice? Because they believe in justice. Do you now why people rage against bullshit? Because we believe in dignity. You know why they rage against evil people? Because they believe in goodness and human capacity for it.
#ihopkc
was an abusive institution. Its leaders were abusive. Its community was abusive. It wasn’t unintentional. It was not purely because ppl were “deceived”. It was because they wanted something. They benefited. Now they want to leave w/o accountability & and an “advocate”
When leaders like
@billyhumphrey
say nearly nothing on social media Re: the
#IHOPKC
#MikeBickle
abuse scandal and subsequent PR and discrediting of Jane Doe you should take this as a sign that they are NOT safe leaders. Their brand seems to takes priority over speaking out.
Independent charismatic network personalities are not “leaders”, they are influencers or public figures. Very rarely are they actually doing pastoral work.
#MikeBickle
#IHOPKC
Can you imagine? She had no AG, no Boz, no streams of articles. Young, w/ minimal connections, less than steller family support & the unchecked force of an international ministry. Many opportunities for retraumatizing. That's what being among the first means.
#ihopkc
#mikbickle
GRACIA had to endure
#ihopkc
discrediting her & resulting EXTREME skepticism for YEARS. Meanwhile she invested her time into facilitating connections among other victims, petitioned the removal of Brad Tebutt, and had a family. WTF? Where would we be w/o her sacrifice & courage?
For all past and present alleged victims and survivors of
#IHOPKC
#MikeBickle
, no matter what you have done or said in the past. You have an enormous community of people who understand what brainwashing is and support you as you figure out your truth for yourself.
MANY people calling out gaslighter abusers are gaslighters themselves. I’ve been gaslit by at least 50% of the abuse influencers in the Bicklegate. Especially the self-appointed advisors and non-expert experts. Don’t name call instead - gaslight. Gaslighting IS abusive.
#IHOPKC
Is
#IHOPKC
a “city of refuge” for predators? They get great treatment there! They will not be kicked off base, EVEN during a clergy sex abuse scandal! They can even be in positions to recruit minors and stay in ministry! Send your predators to IHOPredators if they need to prey!
Exactly. Why the hell did
#ihopkc
put these women through 3 ROUNDS of investigations NONE of which were in cooperation with those bringing the accusations. Of course they are exhausted now.
#MikeBickle
I’m confused as to why
@ihopkc
has put these women through internal investigations so many times. The leaders have shown themselves as incompetent in the realm of being trauma informed. They lack integrity in their care of women, and have blamed the advocates.
GRACIA had to endure
#ihopkc
discrediting her & resulting EXTREME skepticism for YEARS. Meanwhile she invested her time into facilitating connections among other victims, petitioned the removal of Brad Tebutt, and had a family. WTF? Where would we be w/o her sacrifice & courage?
Gracia has been in the trenches for 6 years, fighting for other victims and creating space for hurting folks, never once thinking that she should also be amplified as a victim, of not only a rape, but of a downright cold blooded coverup by Stuart Greaves…
Now that we have said this, can I assume you have delayed long enough to cook all the books, burn all the evidence and leave no trace except for what you absolutely could not unnoticeably dispose of?
#IHOPKC
#MikleBickle
@EricVolz
If they did lie here, it was wrong of them, period. And, it is not lost on any of us that you have the nerve to be so petty as to point this out. They also clearly did not release it until it became utterly impossible to deny there was zero good faith on your end. That’s generous
Know the difference between “Christian counselors” or “(so called) biblical counselors” and licensed therapists who happen to be Christian. Do they have experience with clients who have trauma? Do they have special training beyond their general training as a therapist?
Completely and utter bulls*** incoming! From a coward and sorry excuse for a Christian minister. Silence for all these months. NOW when we literally do not need your voice you speak. When you have zero risk. You should have stayed silent except -> your a** 🙄
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
In this video I share from my heart how I’m responding to the allegations of abuse by Mike Bickle.
I’m hurting with everyone who is hurting in this crisis, and pray that we find our way forward in the Lord together.
According to this IHOPKC deleted evidence which almost resulted in an innocent man being going to prison all to avoid being organizationally implicated. And exposes how little weight the IHOPKC story has against Veronica’s. Not looking good for
#MikeBickle
Mafia and
#IHOPKC
It is a school teaching people to use supernatural powers. Not only are we non-chalant about “magic on demand”. There’s an entire college for it! You would think they would have tons of independently verified miracles right?
—
#ihopkc
@BethelRedding
#mikebickle
#charisma
@SolarChildX1
Bethel is joined to IHOPKC in the whole charismania, signs snd wonders prophetic movement. Did you know Bethel’s school is called “The School of Supernatural Ministry” lol. It reminds me of the Harry Potter School, “Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.” 😂
Is
@BobHartley
a shameless predatory mofo? One that
#Bethel
nor
#IHOPKC
openly warned their communities about? Even when knowing these illicit behaviors were ongoing? Shameful that us independent untrained randos have to do the investigating for them.
Instead of unbiased social workers or counselors for their community
#IHOPKC
appears to be hosting... this class? I guess we are learning to say a psalm through miscellaneous (not having to do w/ Mike 🙄) times of "shock". And of course the answer is to keep sweet, pray and obey.
We all benefited from Mike's pedestal. HIS prophetic history was really YOUR PH. We were all super heros with capes flying aroung at the end of the age in golden chariots. We were elite. We were going to teach the rest of the Body of Christ the Real Truth.
#IHOPKC
#MikeBickle
👫Departing Staff of IHOP-KC Solidarity List 🫶
To GIVE: Ask me, any "armchair investigator", advocate team member, or leader leaving now. We give you the Venmo list.
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#IHOPKC
#MikeBickle
Maybe it’s time for folks to stop irresponsibly publicly doubling down on supposed magic powers of Bob Jones and Paul Cain and focus on fixing their ridiculously poor judgment in these movements?
#IHOPKC
#MikeBickle
@bennettisaac
Homophobia and political opponents are always a really great way to get the crowds looking away from abusive conservative pastors who love feeling moral more than being moral
Part of the attractiveness of cults for young people is the idea of sacrifice, of greatness, of ideals, and thirst for transcendence / liberation from a disconnected unlived life. A (in my opinion justifiable) discontentment with the status quo.
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
IMO the reality is that the
#MikeBickle
emails are more than enough to bar him ethically speaking from all helping professions for the rest of his life.
#IHOPKC
The General sends an internal email tonight to
@ihopkc
staff apologizing for the accusation of lying towards the AG. A public apology would be fitting.
#ihopkc
What we are witnessing is nothing short of a calculated torrent of mass deception, institutional betrayal, psychological warfare, and emotional abuse on a betrayed community and it's victims. Pure scripted & coordinated pageantry. When will they stop misleading?! SHAME!
#IHOPKC
Summary:
"We are doing great!!!! Advocate Group is making everything more difficult. The General is making us play nice, so even though we are rockin' this with our perfectly acceptable 3rd Party, I guess we'll try someone else. But it might take YEARS"
#IHOPKC
#mikebickle
@EricVolz
You have the nerve:
1. to label IHOP a safe place for families before any work is done
2. to use all of this to urge people to move on
3. To label people “offended”
4. To emphasize “false accusations”
5. To pretend Bickle was not
#ihopkc
6. To not apologize to victims of Mike
Has anyone checked to see what some of the popular worship leaders were making per year and esp from
@forerunnermusic
produced content? Anyone wonder where that money went and how contributors were payed etc.?
#IHOPKC
#MikeBickle
Don’t waste 20 more years on this. The “thing that was missing” from the movement was the charismatic part. There is 0 verified evidence of regular widespread gifts in churches like in the book of acts. There is a reason why ONLY charismatics think this.
#mikebickle
#ihopkc
Yeah so today I was blocked by
@DavidFish7
for asking why on earth he seemed to be defending Heidi Baker’s ministry after she made such a grevious error in judgment that resulted in her own daughter being r
@ped
at knife point. Why is he defending these charismatic leaders?
Seems to me as if the third wave charismatic industries are based off of personalities / teachers who travel for speaking engagements to present their pet theories and share each others products and evens. It is a Buisness.