Recovering Multi Family Developer transitioning to Industrial Investor - Sharing my journey and learning from others - Founder and Managing Director of TAG SLC
Put down a $30K deposit w/ a window guy.
A week later, got word that he was booked into County Jail. Check was cashed. Order not placed.
Welcome to passive income.
TAG SLC started doing ground up development in 2016 after a mentor told me that we needed to do bigger deals. This is the first project that we executed on. Rendering vs finished product.
Unlike most developers I talk to, we're fine doing small deals. Why? Because I think it's good for the city.
City Council just approved our rezone to make way for this lil guy.
I think West Village is the best new project going on in SLC.
I don’t understand why the city has such a hard time putting rules forward that reward this type of development.
Currently being pitched a 68 unit in a town with a population of 4,334.
Sponsor is buying at a 4.9 cap
Expects 7% yoy rent growth
With a “conservative” exit cap of 6%
Oh and the split is 66/33
GP/LP of course
Pass or play?? 🤓
In 2016, we bought a defunct project from another developer who was unable to get it out of the ground.
This is how it turned out. (8) 2400 sq ft 4 bed/3.5 bath/2 car garage units
We just wrapped our largest raise of 2023.
It was a ton of fun and I'm humbled by the market response.
Now time to get to work and start rolling leases :)
Construction lender won't use our phase 1 since it's more than 6 months old. They got bids for between 3.5K-5K for a new phase one.
I asked, can I just have our engineer update the existing report?
Bank- ya that would be fine.
One question just saved us thousands. Logic wins the
At planning commission watching an adaptive reuse project get battered on by neighbors.
“I support affordable housing, just not in my neighborhood.”
It’s an incredible project by a top notch team. We need to streamline affordable housing projects and not require any public
So stoked to be accepted to ULI Young Leaders Mentorship program. I've participated for several years and its been an incredible experience.
If you have any interest in development, JOIN ULI!
Got a call from a broker getting ready to bring a 15k sq ft deal to market. Pricing guidance is $225/FT.
Based on area, clear height and layout we know it’s only going to fetch $1/FT.
So we turn around an LOI @ 2M
They counter @ 2.1M.
Moral: if you spend the time to underwrite
@Levijameshere
I had the pleasure of buying a small commercial building that had a concrete culvert under the floor. Turns out a creek runs inside of it. So I avoid waterways now.
Fire Marshall Makes Rooftop Decks Impossible.
We just received a ruling that the rooftop deck will cause our 7 story building to be considered a high rise.
Goodbye
@moizali
Personal finance is simple.
Live on less than you make and invest the difference. I’d suggest living on no more than half then throw the rest in the S&P until you find a great real estate sponsor to invest with.
Write up of one of our covered land plays in Salt Lake's Granary District.
Happy to sit on this one for the next decade while the neighborhood matures.
While big development projects are on hold, interesting moves are still being made. Check out this upzone in the Granary District that looks to create a 1.5-acre parcel on D-2 zoning.
Under contract on a small flex building with in place rents that are 40% below market.
The upside? Leases burn off in March of '24.
Sometimes your value add strategy can be as simple as raising rents. Not every project requires a total overhaul.
Love that this wholesaler is insisting that we can rezone this property is 1-2 months.
-bro the noticing period for the neighborhood is 45 days, not going to happen.
In SLC, we plan a year to rezone a property
This was the start of our industrial portfolio in 2019.
We picked it up for $75/FT.
Today this building would cost $200/FT
Signed a 10 yr absolute net lease starting at $1/FT within 2 weeks of closing.
Group behind effort to bring an MLB team to Salt Lake City has released early concept art of what a stadium could look like in the Rocky Mountain Power District.
We wrote a rezone application for our neighbor, for free.
We have project that was rezoned from R-1-7 to RMF-30 which took our density from 7 Units to 28.
Another group purchased the neighboring parcels and decided they wanted to rezone as well, so we wrote the application for
Launched a deal today and had several investors respond and say, “this looks great do you mind if I send it to X”
Yes, please send it along :)
Referrals are even better than repeat investments. Feeling good
This is awesome! Moving our code to more of a Form Based System with fewer zones will lead to better outcomes.
I hope the city continues to give
@nick_norris_slc
leeway to implement good policy!
Planners are preparing work that would condense 28 zoning districts into just six, a major simplification of the rules governing development in neighborhoods like Sugar House, the Granary District and the North Temple corridor.
Maintaining occupancy across our multi family portfolio is top priority right now.
Had a lease renewal come up and offered to drop monthly rent by $50/M AND give 2 weeks for free if they would stay another year.
Keep 'em full!
We stumbled upon a vacant 20k sq ft industrial property with huge potential. Excitement levels were through the roof!
After a tour, we found out the seller had another offer on the table. The pressure was on, but we saw the value in the deal and made our move.
Negotiations were
We received an LOI on a development deal.
We counter with a modest price increase.
Buyers counters came back as a PSA.
They speak my love language! I like moving quick and love working with ppl who do the same.
Here we go!
Officially under contract!
First looked at this site in May 2023.
Seller pulled back, we helped them negotiate a deal and they came back. Just as I expected they would.
Now we have full term debt
@5
% and looking to ROLL!
We stumbled upon a vacant 20k sq ft industrial property with huge potential. Excitement levels were through the roof!
After a tour, we found out the seller had another offer on the table. The pressure was on, but we saw the value in the deal and made our move.
Negotiations were
Today, we pulled the plug on a 16K sq ft industrial deal that would have yielded a 7.65% YOC.
Asset had too much deferred maintenance and layout issues to move forward. Seller wouldn't budge on pricing even after presenting numerous bids to address the repairs needed.
Good bye
Reading a multifamily report and was blown away by this. Only 5 deals with north of 100 units traded in Utah this year.
Hard to see the distressed opportunities coming with those kinds of stats
I hate renewal options in a lease
Have a lease that we signed 10 years ago and the tenant just notified us that they want to renew AGAIN!
10% escalations every 5 years seemed good enough at the time but we are way under market now.
Live, learn, improve, repeat
My lady doesn’t understand why I can’t remember her friends names but can remember how much we got in refi proceeds from a deal from 2017.
Guess it’s priorities!
Emailed a few LPs tonight about a deal thats closing Thursday. Within an hour, I got a notification from my home that someone put something at my door. Checked my email & I got a commitment for 25% of the capital under my mat… How can I build value with more investors like this?
About to head to the first event for
@REconveneLA
About me:
-got into RE in 2010 @ 20 yrs old with no skills and less money
- brokered and flipped SF’s until i saw the light in 2015 and went into multi family & commercial
-now run a small real estate development shop in SLC
That euphoric feeling you get when the city attorney emails you to say your plat is approved for Mylar!
Last review only took 45 days.
It’s been printed and signed by us and our lender since before Christmas.
Now onto 3 months of chasing down signatures!
We have found it immensely easier to raise extra capital upfront to pad reserves than to ask for more capital later. Yes, it will pull down returns a bit, but if your "deal" cant sustain having a cash cushion its not a deal.
The difference in folks communication is wild.
Just got a call from a borrower who's loan is coming due March '24 and they are communicating that they might need a bit more time (rehab schedule is slipping)
Meanwhile, have a borrower who is 40 days delinquent, has an NOD filed
Guy just left my office who is convinced that a PE firm from Dubai is going to give him 300M @ 2.25% for 10 years.
Spent 20 minutes explain why he needed to watch out and he refused to hear it.
These scams are wild
Closed a deal in November.
Investor was out of the country when closing occurred.
We funded their position thinking we would square up when they returned.
Been pushing for 45 days to get funded and today this treasure came in. Always something
Welcome to the show
@TAG_SLC
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Jordan is one the best real estate minds I have ever met, and I'm excited to share his story with you all!
Enjoy!
Just another day in the city's edition of 'Let's Make Everything Impossible'! Bought a property, had plans to fix it up and rent it out while waiting for a rezone to redevelop, but apparently, the stairs need to be upgraded to gold-plated escalators. 🛁🪜 Decided to demolish the
Closed Friday, looking forward to breathing new life in this tower and reimagining some traditional amenities for CBD office. No we are not converting to apartments and no we are not crazy (completely).
@Levijameshere
If we liked the spot for the long haul, I’d be content with 125 bps over debt quote.
If it’s alright but not exciting, would need 175 bps
Investment summary from our first ground up project. I looked back and we didn't have a single excel file for this deal.
Ended up selling at 712K/Unit
Borrowed at 85% LTC @ 4 Points and 12% interest
You don't need a master degree to get started. You just need to take ACTION!
TAG SLC started doing ground up development in 2016 after a mentor told me that we needed to do bigger deals. This is the first project that we executed on. Rendering vs finished product.
I though I was doing something good, fixing up that old house that’s been abandoned for 4 years. I’m grateful you helped me realized I’m promoting systemic racism and ruining the character of the neighborhood.
@MichaelAlbaum
It’s one tool in your tool belt. Another is the 1031 which is incredible for rolling up into larger/nicer assets. Throw in some cost seg and your rolling
“Developer” calls looking for financing on a screamer of a deal.
Corner of X and Y, buyin for 1.4M going to site plan it and flip it to a builder for 2.4M.
Me: So it’s been listed for 1.5M for 6 months, why do you think your layout is going to drive the value 1M bucks.
Them:
Deals are happening, even in this market.
GP just reached out with a small RV deal in TX. Offering a 6% pref and then 20% of the upside.
Blown away by the generosity😜
A GPs ability to navigate tax season is a question that often goes overlooked until your ready to file and waiting on strangling K1s.
Respect your LPs. Keep your books tight and get out the K1s before filing deadline!
Developer from KC just pitched me on a surfaced parked deal in a SLC suburb. Said YOC was 5.5% but a 30% IRR on a 5 year hold.
~wait so your exit cap assumption is 4.25%?
~ya, it's a strong deal.
Thats a pass.
The days leading up to a big pour are a flurry of activity.
Looks like the weather will cooperate for our early AM pour! What are you looking forward to this week?
@IGoBySteve
This is a huge move that should be pushed forward. Be great to get more housing on campus. Especially if they bring trax to the development.
@HeroDividend
Well wouldn’t the first step to get experience in the field your pursuing and work your way up?
Even if it means taking a pay cut?
And continue serving on weekends
Feel Good Moment: An industrial tenant we had been working with for months on delinquent payments had experienced collection issues with his customers and had fallen behind on more than just rent. After, he mentioned this to his neighbors at the property, the other tenants put