@SociableBarely
Letโs not be disingenuous. We all know researching prowess isnโt the issue here. But the parameters of your data interpretation. To everyone else in the replies: You clearly think that knowing something about kpop means you know everything about BTS. Thereโs a name for that.
@btxtrealm
@Hazard7x
Mnet hasnโt changed one bit. After all the mistreatments, the are claiming credit as an essential part of BTSโ rise to the top on their latest YouTube series. No doubt part of their campaign to bring MAMA to the USA.
@borahaezu
It is not about kpop. Racism is racism. And BTS is the biggest most visible Asian representation on the global platform right now. The last one there is the real issue for a lot of people. Accepting this fact is difficult for some. So donโt waste your time.
@abyssmillah
Theyโve havenโt learned to adjust their expectations. Western. kpop. Music as art from one, โmusicโ as product from the other. This is why saying BTS isnโt kpop anymore is simply stating that donโt fit that category. Not Korean idols. Not western. BTS is BTS. Music is music.
@Blacksswan7
@zubbycat
This. I was just thinking the same. Jin gets to fulfil his dreams of performing for ARMY for free. Just before he enlist. Both BTS and ARMY get to have a โproperโ goodbye. With a bang. With faith. Love. Pride. Self respect. With some degree of control taken back.
@jenniaki
About him leaving the stage in a hurry: He knew he was in the middle of a tender moment between BTS and ARMY and he didnโt want to intrude ๐ฅฐ
@SociableBarely
To fans and BTS ARMY in the replies: โLies, Damn Lies, and Statisticsโ is a saying for a reason. At some point arguing is throwing your pearls to swine. There is a time for everything. There is another saying: The dogs will bark, but the caravan will carry on. Let the dogs bark.
@hyyhaficionado
I am not an audio engineer but I thought I heard back tracking in PTD for example, but not on some others like Dynamite with the live band, or some of their Korean songs. Jiminโs going wobbly a bit when he is tired, and Yoongi losing is voice towards the end?
@TVWatchtower
Iโve said this many times: The BTS phenomenon should NEVER be conflated with the kpop phenomena. This is SEPARATE from the debate about whether BTS is โkpopโ or not.
@bora_twts
@toojazzy25
Let this be a lesson to those who are easy to react and slow to research. Dr Kim YD has been one of very few respected academics and music critiques, along w/ Dr Lee Jiyoung who spoke for BTS from the start AGAINST the ACTIVE DOWNPLAYING of BTSโ achievements in South Korea.
@jkyoongs
TXT is the only group who signed with Big Hit before it was HYBE and so the only group who has ever saw BTS up close from when they were still in a small company with a practice room in the basement, right? Also BTSโ only label mate under Big Hit Music?
@gmcantave1
Also, the timing seems to suggest wanting to carve out attention for their fave CB due to the following upcoming events around same time: BTS sold out multiple night stadium concerts, Gammy performance, Granny nomination, possibility of winning the Gummy, Time mag cover (again)
@LANShadownet
MAGA in New Zealand is all over Twitter. They identify as both Americans and New Zealanders attacking the core NZ values from the inside with the fervour of religious extremists and extreme right fundamentalists. Remember Christchurch March 2019. It is a mistake to dismiss them.
@BungeoWindspiel
@fated0613
@__gaciria
People need to stop calling them a boyband. Thankfully a lot in the media called them a band now. Compared to when I first discovered them at the end of 2020.
@uraveragejo1234
@MrsTOH2O
Expect more leaks from the military THROUGHOUT the next two years. I am betting my whole entire BTS album collection on them not being able to help themselves.
@uarmyvibe
J Cole would know BTS singing Born Singer which he just cleared for the album PROOF, that the boys of BTS have been fans since back in the day, and that everything he said is true ๐ฅน
@GoAwayWithJae
It is painfully obvious those reviewers written by someone who clearly IS NOT INTERESTED TO KNOW, but has to do the job assigned to them. Waste of space.
@soopdweller
Thanks for sharing this. I knew my instinct was right for not giving that platform my money. I was so tempted as their aggressively interrupt my streaming with ads and I canโt seem to control my music choices on my mobile app!
@toojazzy25
Exemption for those who glorify old European music, but โprudenceโ for those carrying South Korean pride, culture, ans Hangul to the world. The irony.
@Regal_Rigel
I wonโt be here without DYNAMITE. Heard of BTS but not a fan of kpop so didnโt bother looking them up. Until then. I bought their entire discography after. Well, almost ๐
@lsgrlr
This is why BTS is changing gear. They always know what they are doing. RM repeated emphasis on longevity. Bang PD asking us to see the long perspective. Always remember their request. They know. They always know.
@trivia_gloss
@SmeraldoWithLuv
Starbucks sold crap coffee 25 years ago and it is still selling ๐ฉ coffee now. I donโt get the struggle NOT to buy coffee from them.
@lenikacruz
@TheAtlantic
I pride myself for being open minded, multicultural, progressive, and the rest of it. When I finally "gave in" and checked out BTS in Nov 2020, I was forced to confront my own prejudices. With how the world unfolded in 2020, it has been the biggest lesson of the year for me.
@AnaMardoll
@netflix
needs to realise that once they lose customers this time around they arenโt likely to get them back. It is a different time from when a lot of us first started subscribing. There are a lot of other alternatives out there now. This isnโt an experiment they can afford.
@KimNamJunnie
@moonkitty96
Collector? Nah. Collectors are generally very discerning. This one wants quantity per dollar spent like when you buy sand. Bulk buyers. Like when you buy fish in a wet market.
@koofist
@JKJeonEuphoria
I couldnโt eat chickens for months after I saw how that chicken was with JK. Actually, I am still reluctant to eat chicken nowโฆ. ๐ตโ๐ซ
@SociableBarely
This is how you choose to respond? Mockery? How disappointing. Especially when you positioned yourself, very clearly, as having something intelligent to say. How about counter arguments? Easier to mock. I am sure.
@313koos
That โplease support usโ was a red flag to me. Sadly I didnโt know who he was and watched the whole thing. Gaon eh? Another one on my no support list. Ami donโt forget and I too have very long memory.
@DEADLINE
How about investigate what he did to JYJ and TVXQ? How the slave contracts started? And the circumstances around the suicides of various artists under his style of management?
@Frances39411513
@BTS_twt
I donโt mean to be a downer but I think somebody served them something that has gone bad thinking they donโt know any better. Look at Yoongi jolting back after he sniffed it
@modooborahae
The issue is in the "metrics" of good music. We are so conditioned to a certain kind of metrics, myself included, so far one dictated by the dominant pop culture, the western world, that not until BTS I realised this. BTS will never fit the picture because they have rewritten it.
@modooborahae
As PSY and SUGA asked: โCan you feel it?โ. Let them FEEL the enormity of the NUMBERS, in the absence of it. They have persistently questioned the boys about it in the past. I hope they really FEEL the answer to their own question now. Will ARMY who bought still attend?
@cortadochica
@lsgrlr
Wow. I can not imagine how rough it must have been for such people to push through such a tough industry. Especially from what Iโve been reading lately.
@jayquintana_jr
@IndieWire
Now if he has said it this way, it would have made a lot of difference. The seemingly insignificant absence of qualifiers can mean a lot. Unless,
@IndieWire
purposely didnโt inform him that his interview will be heard accross the globe, instead of just the USA.
@lsgrlr
This seems to happen all the time. We still have senior ARMY here to fact check. I am new. What would happen years from now. Is there a place where new ARMY can go to fact check history? Does ARMY have a history group or project?
@omermeroz
The closest concert from where I am will be Korea. I think. So Korea on my line of sight for sure for when traveling, or at least between us and Korea, is safe again.
โฆ trying to leave Ukraine is like โSquid Gamesโ with Ukrainians and Europeans at the top of the hierarchy, people from India and the Middle East in the middle, and Africans at the bottom.
@Jiniya1204
The military and citizens insisting Bangtan is โlike everybody elseโ. If they can twist the narrative for Itaewon taking first responders to court and blaming victims for their own deaths, they can do anything I guess
@tombreihan
So. How many times can I play โButterโ by BTS per day sir? With the permission of authorities such as yourself, of course. I hate to manipulate the American music industry from New Zealand. How about those by American artists? Whatโs the max plays allowed for those?
@modooborahae
@BTS_twt
This is the first since the pandemic where Korea can witness the world descending upon them for BTS yes? โโฆ a recognition of a particular worldโ What world might that be I wonder
@Ayli09573608
@313koos
You mean he is talking about 2022 the year BTS is taking a break from group promotions? To compare BTS performance as a group with another? Any STAT 101 student can tell you what is wrong with this pic. Did you say he is the HEAD of a chart? My god ๐
@oddmutant
@dieworkwear
I love the cap in this whole ensemble. It gives it a bit of a twist. One that says F you I am going to do it my way. Confidence. Like he doesnโt care because he knows he looks good. The biggest swag.
@slayeondan
The differences between โanthologyโ, and โcompilationsโ or โthe best ofโ is in the nuances. The first is a flex. The last two arenโt.
@NeepaGummapu
@SoulLovesSeoul
@jeonIvz
Perhaps keeping Beebโs record is part of the back room deals. I know I am being conspiratorial but I donโt care. I see ๐ต in the shadows behind a lot of things these days.
@pureungompangi_
@gmcantave1
โโฆ how time seems to have stopped back in 2016 for these peopleโ. This captured it well. Iโve seen a comment about how kpop will be revived again finally with their comeback, and Iโm thinking, kpop BLEW UP right NOW what are they talking about.
@BryanRolli
I literally was just saying this. Just look at the nomination category. Of all the ones submitted. I hope BTS wonโt accept any invitation to perform if any was extended to them. If they do, I hope they would sing something from their new album. Instead of BUTTER.
@bora_twts
@BTS_twt
This is an actual monetary coin if I understand correctly. But a commemorative version. Like ones they have of notable people in history minted by their countries around the world. HYBEโs shareholders will be making money. Not BTS.
@modooborahae
I have sooo much to say about this. But I am still brewing my thoughts. Twitter word limits means this is not the right place to expound on it. Sufficed to say, attempts to validate BTS by squeezing them into other people's metrics is not only pointless, but may be a disservice.
@etheralmonie
@almostdita
โWith a little helpโ is an English language EXPRESSION. People say it in contexts like this one when it means the opposite. English speakers know not to take it literally.
@userbfIy
Being able to drop an ANTHOLOGY is a flex. A big and significant body of work is immediately understood! The pandemic has given them a lot more mainstream listeners and they might have to take 18 months off. Who are these people? Kids? Kpoppies?
@TSwiftFTC
@billboardcharts
From one adult to another: An impression was created by tagging one artist while using the word "dips" in a post related to said artist, WHILE the word "moves" was chosen to report the **same** downward movement, in relation to another artist, without tagging said artist.
@ndeverydayistay
Donโt you think itโs time that we reject the idea of having to look to America to validate anyoneโs musical and artistic achievements?
@SaraBangtan07
@AppleMusic
I come to accept the possibility that music journalists in the west perhaps isnโt struggling so much with unchecked presumptions which translates to laziness, but more with being so used to unchallenged worldviews that they are struggling to comprehend alternative realities.
Because my โrightโ to โlibertyโ is more important than the right of others to stay alive. If this counter adaptive behaviour isnโt a sign of a civilisation in decline in the continuing process of our speciesโ evolution, I donโt know what is. Itโs time anyway.
@translatingTXT
@TXT_members
@TXT_bighit
๐ฟ๏ธ itโs the same but when you enter, thereโs bts inside ๐ Who is the squirrel? I come from AMI twt so thatโs Hobi to me. Who is the squirrel in TXT?
@btsbaragi_jk
I love Hobiโs high double breasted classic reminds me of the suits of the 1940s, and the colours as well, how they are combined = pure elegance
@sonyeondussy
The determining factor will be the number and the money each fandom can bring to the city.
#BTSARMY
is huge, and old enough to spend their own money as they see fit.
@gmcantave1
It is the equivalent of negative campaigning when substance is lacking. Formation of a common enemy, hyping through charged emotions. Nothing to do with musical legacy. True legacy is timeless. So years of absence shouldnโt be relevant. Yet. Theyโve got to do something I guess ๐