A top Southern Baptist leader is found guilty of gross sexual behavior with multiple victims and my feed is full of Baptists saying Beth Moore is Satanic and those “immodest women” are the root of immoral decline in our country and provoking innocent men to lust.
Wow.
Didn’t
@ProfDBernstein
I received a good piece of advice once. “Trying to convince an extremist from your polar opposite ideology is unlikely, but influencing those closer to your worldview is much more likely. Focus on the moderates, not the extremists.” This really helps me deal with extremists.
@AvivaKlompas
Let’s be honest, they are targeting Christmas because billions of people are celebrating the birth of a Savior to a Jewish mother in Bethlehem 2000 years ago, while they insist Jews “colonized” in 1948.
@HeavenBentPod
@brent_steeno
When Misty told
@brent_steeno
the details she did she made him an accomplice or a witness. It was no longer just “Misty’s story” as soon as Brent became a witness, it became Brent’s story too.
This idea of “not telling someone else’s story” is how so many people knew about
@deaflibertarian
Our responsibility is to be a protector and provider. A reserve stock of supplies insures those we care about are cared for even when supply chains get interrupted. It’s literally a love language.
Today I saw things about
#IHOPKC
and some of the institutional details of how
@MikeBickle
’s abuse of JD’s is incorporated into the foundation of their core doctrines, teaching and Prophetic History of the organization itself.
Twenty years ago I found a calf that a mother cow had
You are a church leader and you get a call from a young woman who attends your church saying she has been raped and that she needs you to come pick her up.
What do you do?
Tell her you are on the way and ask her if she is currently safe. Ask her if her attacker is still there.
Recently,
@ihopkc
spokesman
@EricVolz
called me dishonest for not publishing docs IHOPKC provided on his timeline, which allegedly refuted "false narrative" of "rape cover-up at IHOPKC." As you'll see, there's more to story, which took time to report. 1/2
@SolarChildX1
I am a part of a global 24/7 prayer movement. It is called the Body of Christ. A hundred years after IHOPKC has disappeared my prayer movement will continue just as it has day and night for thousands of years.
When I go to sleep my brothers and sisters in the underground
@BriannaWu
As a former State Senator with one of the most Conservative voting records in the State a decade ago, would you be surprised to hear that your words match my current feelings?
I was the deciding vote in WA in 2013 to form a bipartisan majority to focus on Jobs, Education and a
@WomnOfValor
🤦♂️
“Ego is a male spirit constantly looking for validation from others, sometimes imagining flattery or seduction from sources from which it was never intended”
@seanfeucht
If you are a self-professed Christian defending
#mikebickle
’s return to leadership of
#IHOPKC
after multiple victims have come forward with credible accounts of his sexual molestation and serial adulterous behavior spanning decades (which is completely indefensible) by attacking
@joyklaprade
In the “real world” outside of the carefully crafted fantasy world of “church leadership” it is necessary to establish non-sexual protocols for men and women to work together.
Male and female medical staff work side by side literally every day.
McDonalds staff both men and
Victims of abuse demand your attention.
Years ago my wife and I had put a LOT of time and energy into supporting a local Bible study group. Weekly we would have a dozen or so participants, monthly we could have groups of 60-80 participants and then my wife and I would host big
Paul Cain’s story is an elegant example of why sound teaching must include a differentiation between the Gifts of the Spirit and the Fruit of the Spirit. With the “five fold ministry” false doctrine the difference between fruit and gifts is blurred. The result is that gifted
@starcazm
My dad was a Special Forces team leader / trainer. When I was still a teen he taught me to use empathy to understand the motivation and behavior of a predator. I had been hurt and his intent was to make sure it never happened again. His reasoning was that just like with a
@DeeGoingsGirl
We need more masculinity teaching revolving around Joseph’s example.
Potiphar’s wife was doubtlessly young and beautiful. Egyptian pictorial representations show us that in noble families the women’s attire was designed to enhance their eroticism, not diminish it. A common
“Kris, I have aught to say unto thee.”
After watching this clip I have some even deeper questions about
@kvministries
heart related to sexual assault and violence and those who commit it.
I feel like I live in some sort of Bizarro backwards world where I need to even say the
@yashar
@RitchieTorres
@LevineJonathan
So then what Hadid means is “…Sorry you’re mad…. Not sorry for what I did…. Because I hate Jews…. Not sorry, actually….from the river to the sea….”
Classic non-apology from a cookie cutter anti-Semite.
Still no remorse for sin. Still no concern for the women
#MikeBickle
seduced and manipulated.
Instead just petty attacks on anyone who would question the perfection and priority of the “ministry”.
These people leading
#IHOPKC
do not have the fear of the Lord. They do not
@davidthankful1
To a sheep all wolves are geniuses. To a Shepherd wolves are just big dogs.
We need more men and women committed to being providers, protectors and lovers instead of comfy sheep.
Sheep eat grass, poop, reproduce, and sleep.
That’s what they do.
Wolves eat sheep.
That’s what
I’m thinking of the current leadership of
#IHOPKC
and the others who claim to be in such deep mourning and anguish of soul in hearing of the reality behind the paper mask
@MikeBickle
has worn all these years.
I’m thinking of the videos made by men who use Bickle’s vocabulary and
A woman came forward last week with her story, accusing
@IHOPKC
Founder
@MikeBickle
of sexually abusing her, beginning at age 14
Now, that woman, identified by maiden name Tammy Woods, has released an open letter addressed to Mike (and Diane) Bickle. 1/2
I woke up this morning praying for Jane Doe’s father.
I don’t know Jane Doe’s name, nor do I know her father, but his story is the sort of thing that is a nightmare for any father of daughters and for any Pastor that has a heart for Godly ministry.
Twenty years ago one of
@LottieJean6
@HeavenBentPod
@brent_steeno
I think it is safe to say that
#IHOPKC
has more than one problem and that it is possible for someone to be any combination of victim, witness, enabler, accomplice and predator all at the same time.
@goinggodward
There is a sixteen year gap between our two middle children. Our oldest daughter was 22 when our youngest daughter was born. Our youngest daughter is three months older than our first grandchild. :). We love them all 4 of our children and none of them were accidents.
New: The Southern Baptist Convention and others have reached a confidential settlement in a high-profile lawsuit that accused a former leader of sexual assault, ending a six-year legal drama that expanded victims’ rights in Texas.
I am so relieved to see
@LouEngle
come out with such a strong statement supporting Jane Doe # 1 and the Advocate Group and calling
#MikeBickle
to full repentance regarding his moral failing at
#IHOPKC
I had previously seen his recent comments regarding “Jezebel” and had been led
@stillgray
He needs to set the log he is splitting flat on the ground. He does not take advantage of the full power of the arc of his swing with the log elevated.
With green pine (which this appears to be) you need to be conscious of knot alignment and focus the accuracy of each hit at
In my feed this morning I see grief from those associated with
#IHOPKC
Many chose to see the truth of
#MikeBickle
’s deception and depravity weeks, months and even years ago. I said “chose” because Bickle’s shortcomings didn’t just miraculously appear when Tammy Woods gave an
@Irishchutzpah
You are not alone! I have family near Dublin. We honor Israel. We are opposing antiSemitism in the US as well. We have had death threats, attacks and intimidation, but God has been faithful to deliver us. How can we pray for you? How can we help?
@abele_amy95291
@PrestonSWalker
@bozlawpa
#IHOPKC
does not need to give their permission for an external investigation, like what you see in media exposé’s. The facts just need to be verified and documented for defense against slander / libel lawsuits. I have been a part of many of these kind of investigations (not of
@blaiseforet
We all wonder from time to time if we have good leaders.
Here is a painful and costly lesson:
Good leaders will respect YOUR conscience.
Bad leaders will insist you ignore your conscience and submit to their authority.
Thank God if you have a good leader.
Leave now if you
Does it really need to be said that it is unacceptable for a Church Leader to put his hands on the throat of a younger student under his charge?
Yes, apparently it does.
Leaders, you do not have the right to put your hands on someone simply because they attend, serve at or work
I read the entire book of 1st John yesterday. As I read it over and over it was like I could feel the comfort of the Holy Spirit. It was like cool water on hot August afternoon after working hard in the sun. It was like that first taste of a perfectly ripe watermelon with your
@timmyb1567
For you, due process is driving her to the hospital or police department. They will take care of due process from there.
Some people shoot themselves in the arm too, but you don’t call a prayer meeting to discuss gun safety and criticize the guy who has just been shot because
@kats4christmas
My answers would be:
1. Love and support my wife.
2. Protect and support my children.
3. Insure the rapist was not able to do it again to anyone else.
Don’t ask me how I know.
@reachjulieroys
@jamesmacdonald
When Samuel visited a city the elders were afraid.
I have said it before. If you want to see how “the prophetic” functions, look at what Julie Roy’s does. No fortune-telling or sooth-saying, just speaking the truth the wicked don’t want to hear.
Thank-you for your service.
@DrMichaelLBrown
thank-you for your part in writing this letter. The spiritual and physical sexual and prophetic predation that
@mikebickle
has practiced for decades has been like a bomb that has exploded in a densely populated area. The destructive force and pervasive nature
Here's a joint statement on the allegations against Mike Bickle, signed by Jack Deere, Dan Juster, Patricia King, Joseph Mattera, Sam Storms, Michael Sullivant, Terri Sullivant, and me:
I read this earlier today and have been thinking about it all day. In what context could a married man say this to a woman he was not married to and not sound like a total lech?
Boss to Secretary: “I’m going to stop by your house tonight after work. Make sure to leave room in
@SRClaridgeWrite
I wondered if that was him….
The “we need a Seer like Bob Jones….” Is a clear homoerotic fixation. The “spiritual father” relationship between Bickle and Paul Cain and Bob Jones likely had multiple layers of uncleanness.
The entire ramblings are absurd and riddled with the
@WomnOfValor
@datepsych
Who is this guy’s mother?
What kind of a pornsick, weaned-too-early, government raised man-boy talks about women this way?
Seriously?!
Who is this guy’s father that he fantasizes that a woman’s worth is based on her reproductive capacity?
I love babies. My wife and I had
Blaise is right on here.
The practice of “secret sharing” about others by a leader is also a tool of sexual grooming. It makes the information recipient feel “special” and “within the circle of trust”. This tactic will then lead to a predatory leader exploiting the implied
🚩 LEADERSHIP RED FLAGS 🚩
If your leader speaks privately to you about the faults of your peers — know that he or she is likely speaking privately to them of your faults.
This is called “isolating”
It happens in ministry’s and secular organizations (I’ve had it happen to me
@bennettisaac
The Kingdom of God is not an MLM matrix where you are not allowed to question your “up line”.
“Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. 7Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
@ErnieVanderwalt
@BobSorge
If your response to a wolf attacking sheep is to first mention your own suffering, then call for compassion for the wolf, you are not a shepherd.
It is not about you.
It is not about the loss of the gilding on your idol.
IT IS ABOUT THE VICTIMS YOU HIRELING!
Better to remain
@nosoup4knowles
I was called Satan, a Zionist, a Judizer, and a Jew by “Christ is King” folks yesterday. According to all of them, they were speaking for Jesus.
Glad I know better.
@MalcangiSarah
To be clear, as a Protestant, I was told by a “Christ is King” proclaimer that I am Satan.
When we create man-made denominations we make compliance to our doctrinal interpretation the threshold for salvation.
I have dedicated my life and my all to following Yahshua the
@rmhoffmanauthor
@bookkeepPLUS
@_whyioughta
@TJSumpter
I am a shepherd, with real four legged sheep. I am also a believer and a pastor. It is time for people who have never worked on a farm to stop talking about what shepherds do or don’t do. Yes, a shepherd’s rod is used to swat sheep, and usually it is on the butt or side. It
@LittleOldBill
@dkols
@mikebickle
Gossip is bad.
If you stack up all of the gossip and all of the rumors and all of the rough talk on one side of the balance and put the silence over the damage done to one victim on the other, the internet gossiping is insignificant at worst.
The damage to a single sexual
After hearing the Lion of the Tribe of Judah growl in displeasure at your behavior you can never again make the mistake of believing you are the only one with the power to adjudicate.
This little Nebuchadnezzar has never met the Lion or he could not boast of his own authority
True.
Pay attention to the men who disagree with this.
@MikeBickle
and
#KevinProsch
repeatedly amplified this feminine communication style to groom and recruit young female victims. They were sexual predators.
I have NO problem with women worshipping like this. In fact, I
@EricVolz
So by “whispers” you mean “rumors”, and if you would have implemented an impartial third party investigator instead of insisting your attorney with a fiduciary relationship to
#IHOPKC
was an “impartial investigator” there would have been no need for the Advocate Group to release
@mhdksafa
Are you referring to the other days Hamas, Hezbolah and other terrorists continued attacking innocent Israeli citizens, homes, businesses, clinics and schools launching rockets and other weapons of military combat from Palestinian hospitals, schools, retail and residential
Amazing letter from the mother of one of
#MikeBickle
’s first underage victims. True repentance from Bickle and ALL of the
#IHOPKC
leadership past and present would include a full confession and an unrestricted 3rd Party investigation.
Until now the perpetrators and enablers
Powerful letter to
@mikebickle
from Jerrye Woods, mother of Tammy Woods. Publishing here w/ her permission.
"You have no idea the depth of the pain you have inflicted, not just on the primary Jane Does..." 1/6
@Joel7Richardson
I was really disappointed to hear the majority of the focus of the statements being directed at “protecting the ministry” and so little directed toward restoration of the victims. I was also disturbed by the telegraphing of “cheap grace” for Bickle and no talk of justice for the
@ZionConsultTeam
As a professional that derives income outside of ministry, I cannot applaud you enough for this transparency.
There are few things more corrupting about ministry leadership greater than the shenanigans surrounding paying the leaders to do it exclusively. The systems are often
@blaiseforet
One of the signs of a spiritually manipulative or abusive church culture is when adults are shepherded to be in a continual state of adolescence. “Trust the grown ups”. “Submit to spiritual mothers and fathers”. “Obey your leaders even when you don’t understand”
These are not
It is time to admit that the 5-Fold Ministry model is neither scripturally sound nor does it actually provide the accountability and mentorship needed in Executive Leadership. It has / is destroying the lives of gifted leaders, innocent members, and the faith of far too many.
An alleged “inappropriate relationship” between 2 pastors has led to shake-up at Neuma Church in Australia.
After church member reported Rev. Corey Turner was in "an inappropriate relationship with Pastor Stacey Hilliar," the 2 resigned, said church board.
“Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.” MT 5:25
We’re coming up on three months since the original investigation
If you were wondering how a true leader responds to conviction of the Holy Spirit as opposed to institutional preservation, read Allen Hoods words now and his reflection on his own previous action.
This is the way.
No one is perfect, but good men and women admit their
@starcazm
@blaiseforet
Austin, thank you for posting this. After watching the videos of Mike and myself at the staff meeting, I am deeply pained for the ways you, your friends, and any others were mistreated. This is a classic example of a deep spiritual problem that I contributed to at IHOPKC.
Nebuchadnezzar was surrounded by a bunch of yes-men, soothsayers and fortunetellers and one true prophet. After a troubling dream he decided to determine who was credible and who was playing an elaborate game of pretend or just stroking his ego.
He insisted they tell him the
I hear victims say, “It happened years ago. What good will it do for me to talk to law enforcement now?” You simply don’t know what other information is out there. As you process grief and heal from this trauma NOTHING will help you through the “bargaining” phase of grief like
@therainfreesme
This is horrific! I am so sorry this happened to you. It would greatly help other victims if you reached out to
@bozlawpa
and to local law enforcement to give the details. The more information law enforcement has about victims the more effective their pattern of evidence can
@bozlawpa
Presumed innocence MUST apply to victims giving testimony of abuse too. When a victim says “my pastor sexually assaulted me” a Christian should be willing to avoid impugning the victim’s character or testimony with as much fervor as they defend their pastor.
Properly framed a
@strongvoice
@ihopkc
As a protector, provider and healer this photo was so repulsive I put my phone down after I saw it last night and didn’t pick it back up until this morning.
Any true man, husband or father should have put this man in an arm bar or something similar until police arrived to take
@thebereanmillen
The answer to this depends entirely on the State in which you live. Popular elections do not select Presidents. If you care about the future of our country stop obsessing over political father-figures and focus on your Senators and Congressional races.
The President is elected
I am a Charismatic Christian. I believe in the modern manifestation of the Holy Spirit in powerful ways. As this out-pouring of Grace has touched individuals and churches since the 1960’s there has been a been a tragic recurring tale where leaders who seem to have great
@EricVolz
How many of those “leaders” drove her to the hospital right after she called reporting the event? How many of those church “leaders” drove her to the Police Station and stayed with her for moral support as she gave her statement? How many “leaders” acted like responsible
Denominational Doctrinal correctness, ministry activities, hours spent in prayer, fasting, feeding the poor, prophetic utterance and manifesting other Spiritual Gifts cannot “restore” a leader guilty of false prophecy and Clergy Sexual Abuse to a healthy relationship with God.
@therainfreesme
This is horrific! I am so sorry this happened to you. It would greatly help other victims if you reached out to
@bozlawpa
and to local law enforcement to give the details. The more information law enforcement has about victims the more effective their pattern of evidence can
This is an open letter to
#MikeBickle
after being turned away from Bickle’s door when they came to discuss the allegations of sexual impropriety made against Bickle.
In the Early 90s Bickle was also confronted by Vineyard Leader John Wimber and compelled to make public
@shaig
The antisemitism that has always been here is being revealed. But so is the respect many of us have for your history and culture. You are not alone.
@MuhammadSmiry
Narrator: But Mohammed said this over the internet, raising questions in the minds of rational people about the accuracy of his testimony….
@malachiobrien
@ihopkc
You’re right.
Those are weak words.
Maybe just be quiet until you gain the courage and wisdom to open with “I was wrong. I am sorry.”
@malachiobrien
@bozlawpa
“And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
17 Learn to do well; seek
@AlyssaDegraff
A shepherd’s first reaction isn’t to say how much he loves wolves and then to dedicate more effort to restoring wolves than to restoring victims.
Are you paying attention?
“Oh yes we all know sheep are bleeding to death all over the pasture, but do you know what makes a pastor
@abele_amy95291
For those of you with deep connections to IHOPKC, I sense this is a deeper Spiritual battle than we can understand.
The unclean spirits are fighting to preserve an image, a vision, and a narrative.
Always. ALWAYS remember Jesus died to redeem people. And He spared not
How many other people are tired of “oops! I did it again”🎶🎶🎶 posts from religious leaders that do real damage to real people and then fail to take real action to make amends.
Is someone forming a Narcicist Religious Leaders Annonymous 12 Step program? Cause I can think of a
Tonight I am praying for the current and past participants at
#IHOPKC
that have had the courage and character to bear witness to the sin they have seen and experienced.
I pray that they know that though many loved ones and friends have turned against them with false accusations
@Joannathelee
@bozlawpa
@EricVolz
If someone who calls himself a “Spiritual Father” has a sexual relationship with someone they call a “Spiritual Daughter” that would be called “Spiritual Inc**t” which scripture defines as an abomination. If you really want to you can go down the “she asked for it” defense okay,
@HilzFuld
First, thank-you for what you are doing and have done. You are making a difference.
I have had many bouts with anxiety, and there isn’t a one size fits all solution. Talk with your doctor.
Here are some things that have worked for me:
1. I stopped panic praying. Rocking
There are two reasons I felt compelled to get involved in the
#IHOPKC
discussion. 1. Victims. 2. Staff with a Conscience.
I have been both, and I know the mandate of an idolatrous superstructure is to crush both 1 & 2 and to project that either they don’t exist or when they
Re: IHOPKC Staff departures & the benevolent "blessing" by
@bennettisaac
and
@ihopkc
leaders for us to pursue other kingdom assignments. Brothers, for once in this horrible process get honest and humbly tell the truth:
1/ Here's the matter, it's still manipulative rubbish. God
@JenniferVerdery
I wonder how many qualified, dedicated people of character the leadership of
#IHOPKC
have defamed and pressed out of ministry BECAUSE they had too much integrity to go along with predatory practices and cover-ups. Many of those folks, I’m sure we’re forced to to abandon ministry
I want to stress two things regarding
#mikebickle
and
@ihopkc
1. Now more than ever Mike Bickle needs friends like Sam Storms. And somebody needs to go Galdalf on Wormtongue Chris Reed.
2. To my knowledge, I do not know any of the Jane Does, but having experienced church
@CoachingDads
@abele_amy95291
@PrestonSWalker
@bozlawpa
No, I do not think Lathrop had access to Mike Bickle’s email correspondence. The Roy’s Report has also conveyed an enormous amount of information. A legitimate independent investigation would have reached out to Julie Roy’s for information sharing and would have at the very
“If only I knew the signs of an abusive church leader sooner.”
We’ve all read / heard this from disillusioned Christians like those leaving
#IHOPKC
. “It’s the Charismatics!” A cadre of wolves and disabled, disillusioned Charismatics howl at those dazed and confused waking up to