@jessepstein
A lot of NIMBYism is motivated by hostility towards renters and the poor, but it's unusual to see someone openly admit that their aversion to renters, apartments, and new neighbours is a form of class war.
@Eric_Erins
One of the great things that has happened in British news is that 'BBC English accents' are no longer required and regional accents embraced. It's increasingly considered classist to mock or disparage regional accents.
@MarschaFroetin
@Esqueer_
I suspect the problem is that it makes it harder to claim a hard line between male and female biology, or to claim that sexual biology can't be altered via hormones. That's plenty enough ideological reason for TERFs to want to believe that this is unhealthy or dangerous.
For a well-located piece of land in a thriving city, let's rank uses from most- to least- wasteful:
๐คฌ Vacant lot
๐ก Single family house with a few spare rooms
๐ Single family house fully occupied
๐ Apartment building with many vacant units
๐ Apartment building fully leased
This strikes me as a big flaw with a lot of public consultations on local politics issues: they only attract people with strong feelings on the topic, and thus make non-issues seem controversal.
@liz47623756
@LilySimpson1312
@DocPhoenix
Same issue with people's sudden interest in prisoner welfare and prison crime when trans people are involved. Those are issues that I wish people cared more about, but no one seems to give a damn unless it can be used to vilify trans people.
@fawfulfan
Weird how gentrification discourse has gotten to the point where you can shout misogynistic abuse at strangers for not growing up in the same /street/ that they grew up in.
@VictoriaScone
There would be the same problem if a group of gay men turned up to pride to advocate that bisexual people don't exist... the problem wouldn't be that they're gay, it would be that they're biphobic... and expressing anti-lgbt views are pride is going to be controversal.
One of the left wing landlord complaints that doesn't seem to reflect working class experience is that it's bad for housing to be owned by large companies, which seems to rest on a very rose-tinted view of what it's like to rent from local landlord with only a few properties.
@e_alexjung
This seems to amount to a suicide protest?
And it's a suicide protest based on whether a ~theatre workshop~ will or will not /call/ for a ceasefire?
It doesn't seem worth throwing your life away based on something that won't even affect the war between Israel/Palestine.
A big problem with UK housing policy is that there are elected officials who seem to genuinely believe that building more homes causes home prices to go up (i.e. that increasing supply has the exact opposite effect that both economic research and theory suggests)
@JoePS123
Not true locally, the more that are built the higher the prices go. These won't reduce prices here or address any of the genuine housing need we do have.
Top scapegoats for inadequate housing supply:
โข Migrants
โข Students
โข Non-locals (i.e. gentrification)
โข Tourists/Visitors (e.g. airbnb)
None of which would be a problem for local residents if we built enough homes for everyone.
@coldhealing
Mixed feelings on this. On the one hand, some of this feels fake and hollow (pretending to like things you don't like). On the other hand, it also seems okay to acquire new hobbies/interests through someone you like being into that hobby/interest?
@BBCNews
Declaring a 'right to live' is meaningless unless you build enough homes.
Housing isn't an abstract right, it's a physical structure that we have to actually build enough of.
@JulioCesarrMM
@NYCFireWire
My first reaction was to wonder why it wasn't possible to route the hose differently, but your image feels more like an illustration of why that wouldn't be possible than a possible alternative solution! No way that a u-bend in a high pressure water hose is a good idea!
Weird how the first speaker says that it's not a supply problem... and then gives an example of something that is very cheap because of huge flexible supply, compared to housing, which is expensive because of a supply shortage.
"We haven't built enough houses... anything other than building more homes isn't tackling the root cause of the problem"
Emma Revell of the Centre for Policy Studies andย Jeremy Corbyn's former adviser James Schneider debate housing policy
#PoliticsLive
@Xx17965797N
If I understand correctly, what's happened here is that you've spotted some devices that look a little like a camera, assumed that is what they indeed are, and then made up the rest of your theory based on that? Is this how these conspiracy theories are born?
@BDSixsmith
I think there's a common desire to believe this. There's a perverse sense of enjoyment in self-righteous outrage. I think it maybe makes us feel good to mock others?
One of the effects of Effective Altruism that I would never have predicted is that it seems to have radicalised some on the left against utilitarian moral thinking, thus causing them to repeat arguments that I'd have previously associated with right-wing thinking.
@legendarygal87
@kgroetz
It sounds like you believe this because a podcast told you, but you didn't hear or see it yourself? No point repeating such claims unless you take the time to verify it.
@coldhealing
Maybe you only got into X because someone you liked was into X, but that's okay? Also, taking an interest in things that your partner (or the person you want to be your partner) is interested in seems okay and healthy? No need to lie about it though.
@NathanJRobinson
This is true, but irrelevant?
These don't abolish capitalism:
โข Health and safety regulations
โข Speed limits and traffic calming
โข Building roads/bridges
โข Firearm regulation
The merits and drawbacks of such things don't hinge on whether they will turn economics upside down
@LacanianC
@bilbosfootcomb
I'm not American, so entirely divorced from whatever brand of culture war nonsense this is. What is it that everyone is supposed to notice?
I prefer universal benefits to means-tested benefits, although it doesn't make sense to me that we means-test benefits for groups that are most likely to be in poverty (working people and families) and not for one of the wealthiest demographics (pensioners).
๐ณ Starmer must not blink on means testing winter fuel payment.
If he really is serious about getting ๐ฌ๐ง back on track, weโre going to disappoint one of Britainโs richest, most powerful lobbies: pensioners.
โ Millionaires do not need welfare payments.
@BlueRepublik
In fairness, this meme doesn't say that the UK is morally superior? It contrasts a label that the US gives itself with its historical record?
I've not watched much of Cunk, but I don't get the impression that it's much of a propaganda piece for Britain either?
@TheOmniZaddy
It seems to make more sense to me to talk about the problem of displacement, which identifies the problem as 'people are being forced out due to rising rents', rather than talk about gentrification, which identifies the problem as 'people are migrating into our neighbourhood'.
@whstancil
I don't think it's religious or dogmatic.
There seem to be lots of people who were pro-Biden until they saw his debate performance and have now lost all confidence in him.
It's not madness to think that a pivot to another candidate might not be awful
@josh_salisbury
@JamesBlurbs
I suspect many of these are a lot less popular than the conservatives think. Yes, people hate it when they're caught parking illegally... but people also hate it when they see other people parked illegally? Pavement parking seems to be a bugbear for a lot of people.
@StrewthQueen
It's creepy wording, but it seems that there are two competing ideas on what meaning was intended: (1) People with child brides, (2) Someone over the drinking age with a spouse under the drinking age (which could be a 22 year old married to a 20 year old).
@MarkLeeWillis
@VictoriaScone
I don't think people commonly do that. Gender and sexual attraction are distinct concepts but, due to facing similar struggles and overlapping community, it's common to organise under one banner (lgbt) and to oppose prejudice against all that fall under the banner.
I watched a short earlier today by someone criticising the industrial revolution and mass production ('things used to be nicer') and had a similar feeling: no one genuinely interested in the welfare of working people should have a negative view of mass production.
a lot of people call themselves socialists or leftists, and they talk and use that language, but it's very clear in substance that their anger is at modernity and what they long for is clean ethnic borders and pastoral premodernity
gosh i wonder who else had those politics
@MarkRuffalo
This seems like a bad take. Building more dense housing in urban areas helps with housing affordability and reducing carbon emissions. It also seems like the development has the full blessing of the church in question?
It gets even worse: this church was landmarked against its will and needs to build housing to survive
Mark Ruffalo,
@amyschumer
, and
@WendellPierce
are fighting to save the building but donโt care about destroying the actual congregation that uses it
@cafreiman
Replies also provide an example of that weird quirk in which American 'anti-capitalists' will often look at European nations as an example of what the alternative looks like (but under what definition are those nations not capitalist?)
@notkavi
I suspect that some of that is just the difference between domestic criticism of one's own nation versus international criticism of other nations?
One and two bedroom homes are often derided as either 'luxury flats' or 'slums' by NIMBYs, but it seems that NIMBY councillors are developing new rhetoric to oppose three and four bedroom houses as well now?
@Matt_Severn
@8pauly
There is no evidence of need for 3 and 4 bed exec houses with starting prices heading towards ยฃ300k, no. The need locally is for smaller properties and affordable housing. Also, 3000 non affordable houses already have planning permission.
@ChadNotChud
Lots of people in the comment trying to redefine the concept of aggression and violence, rather than just admitting that they think that aggression and violence is morally right in that situation (in fairness, some are more plain spoken and say exactly that).
@MartinSLewis
That being said, I wouldn't write that equation as 5+6*4... I would write it as 5+(6*4)=29 or (5+6)*4=44, so as to avoid ambiguity. Anything else is just leaving a trap for people who don't know / have forgotten BODMAS to fall into.
@Almora_12
@Jamie50572157
@MarschaFroetin
@Esqueer_
I'm just guessing, but I sometimes get the impression that external artificial wombs will one day become possible, and I would suspect that they will be widely adopted, which would potentially mean that actual pregnancy would become very rare in general.
@NoContextBrits
He didn't come across as rude at all to me. Not the best interview, and a little bit awkward, but not rude.
That being said, I'm British, so I might just not understand what was expected of him. Was he expected to fake enthusiasm and positivity?
@kat_blaque
It's telling that unrealistic body standards for men is so often raised as a counterpoint to unrealistic standards for women, rather than an extension of the same problem. The idea that men are being catered to in both cases would help explain this.
@DailyKumail
The problem with the Green party is that they spend too much time opposing new nuclear/solar/wind and not enough time doing a damn thing to help with tackling climate change.
I see this argument quite often: 'the market won't allow prices to fall but will instead create scarcity to keep prices high', except that's not what happens in a wide variety of situations? Prices tend to fall in competitive markets with low barriers to entry?
@Aella_Girl
@kevin_niceguy
If ten year old me and 38 year old me were able to exist in the same time and space, then I think the functional result is that we would be two separate people for most moral and legal questions. It's not okay to beat or abuse a child just because of time travel weirdness.
@frxnkmarco
Yes.
You have the right to live your life as you wish, but not the right to exclude others from society. Personal freedom is liberal, but banning other people from living anywhere near you (on land you don't own) is illiberal.
@MarkLeeWillis
@VictoriaScone
You've chosen definitions at odds with how they're often used in practice. In practice, people who find trans women attractive tend to be men or women that find women attractive ('sex at birth' isn't a factor in sexual attraction for most people).
@Almora_12
@Jamie50572157
@MarschaFroetin
@Esqueer_
That's not to say that some people won't choose to have a 'natural pregnancy', just as some people prefer a 'natural birth' today, and that's a choice that should be supported and respected. However, external wombs /might/ one day be a safer alternative for parent and baby.
@yhdistyminen
I have a similar feeling about people who complain about local authorities 'milking' residents via speeding fines... at absolute worst, it feels like a bit of a voluntary tax on those affected.
Real estate agencies can be very bad, but the worst renting experiences that I've had have definitely been when the people who give me a contract to sign and the people who own the property are the same people.
@thechosenberg
Most annoying thing about life before mobile phones was arranging to meet up with someone from school on the weekend, turning up and (due to mixed up times or locations) them not being there, and just having to go home and wait until Monday to find out what went wrong.
@KhattaB66202069
@AaronBergman18
Seems worth tweeting about to me? It's generated interesting answers and discussion in response to the question being asked.
@BlkNtvTerraFFVI
@sam_d_1995
Why?
The relevant question is whether housing the same amount of people in cities or suburbia produces more pollution. You need a per capita rate to answer that question.
@NoContextBrits
I don't think I'll ever understand how so many drivers can be weirdly and unproductively impatient. I can understand not wanting to wait, but there was no time saved in that clip. Better to just sit back and let the van turn around.
@hobbs
@Gladtroax
@STVNews
Freedom of speech doesn't usually mean freedom from criticism or social consequence, but it does mean freedom from legal penalty. If not, then it's meaningless as a freedom or right.
@caitlinmoriah
That's painful. The argument being put forward is obviously that menstruation is not a necessary trait of being female, and Rowling basically concedes the point while thinking she's doing some gotcha that makes the original argument invalid.
@Eric_Erins
The UK has a more class-conscious culture than many other nations, but I think it sometimes just makes us more aware of class-based prejudice and more likely to call it out. The US has worse social mobility than the UK, but seems more shy about acknowledging class divides.
@urcrazytoo
@KatyMontgomerie
@MarieKieler
Everyone reading this exchange can see both sets of tweets... and it's very clear that Katy's tweets are not coming from a place of hatred of lesbian women. You've just constructed a very implausible straw man to beat up on.
@LinkofSunshine
If vertical farming turns out to work better than conventional farming, then I still don't see why we'd build them in cities. Wouldn't it still make sense to build the vertical farms in rural areas (where land is cheaper?).
@dnna1993
@RJThacker1
I don't tend to agree: Many natural things are bad, and many artificial things are brilliant. For example, I would always drink pasteurised milk rather than raw milk, and would rather have an unnatural vaccine than a natural illness.
@VarminWay
@fyininja
@ContraPoints
Boycotts and criticism seem to be most of what people talk about under the term 'cancel culture' (even if that's not what the term sounds like it should mean to you or me).
@BBCWorld
It sounds like one performer did something nice and considerate, which was taken as a criticism by another performer who failed (for whatever reason) to do the same, despite not being named during the incident. Sounds like a 'if the shoe fits' situation?
I often bump up against people who want to dismiss 'YIMBYs' as some kind of right-wing neoliberal movement, but my experience is there's no shared ideology behind YIMBYism other than 'build more homes'?
@rorycooper
That seems an amazing opportunity for growth... it's hard to deny one's own motivated reasoning when mistaking a statistic as being about a president you dislike, only to find it's about one you like. Any post hoc rationalisations must feel very hollow
Vacancy trutherism seems to come in three flavours:
(1) Counting nationwide vacancies instead of vacancies in the areas experiencing housing shortage
(2) Complaining that the vacancy rate isn't 0% (not actually desirable!)
(3) False conspiracy level nonsense
@RazzberryYams
Is this in reference to the '15 minute city' conspiracy in which cars will be banned and people won't be allowed to leave their neighbourhoods? Bit weird in that case, as a bike would increase people's ability to leave their neighbourhood (and make it harder to detect).
@_sarah_rose_22
@jgschraiber
(I'm from the UK). I mostly only use trains to move between cities. Moving a significant distance within a city is a car or bus problem. Going to 'the grocery store' is a couple of minutes' walk problem. Mixed use neighbourhoods solve the problem better than transport options.
@WiseArny
Sounds like the Squamish Nation want to build dense neighbourhoods on their own land, thus helping with the housing crisis. Anyone upset that should mind their own damn business? (not try to find ways to exploit those people and their land for personal gain?)
@NoContextBrits
This sounds made-up, but it does seem to be true that some Welsh speakers are sometimes criticised by for 'speaking a foreign language'
@StevenHailAus
@bad_dadd
There may be a theoretical limit to growth based on natural resources, but in practice this has been overcome via improvements in efficiency, technology, and innovation. Previous predictions of'peak resource' didn't bear fruit?
@BBCNews
I don't really understand the mentality of people who behave like this. It's surely got to be a minority of people who use the Internet who deliberately abuse/bully strangers in this way?
@West4MN
@BlaineMN
@ChickfilA
I appreciate that there's a queue of cars in the background, but the overwhelming impression I get of so few people spread over such a large space is that it feels dead, empty, and lifeless. I can't imagine it would be any more exciting to be stuck in one of the cars.
@maybe_dan_
@sam_edwoods
@culturaltutor
I think this runs counter to a lot of people's intuitions, but I think it's true. A nearby public park or green is much better for children than having their own individual back yards.
For example, all of my charity goes abroad to the global poor (for whom each pound can do the most good). This is something I'd expect right-wing 'help our own first' nationalists to object to, but not leftists!
This argument is completely unconvincing. Consequences are obviously โthe main thing that matters when it comes to charity.โ Helping someone bc theyโre physically closer to you when that help could do much more for someone far away is actually the most just and kind thing to do
@RupaHuq
Given that we're in a housing crisis, I just don't think it makes much sense for Labour MPs to be pandering to NIMBYs at the expense of young people who just want to afford a home?
Another example is the pushback against the idea that we should care about people not yet born, which has been a central argument of environmentalist movements for as long as I've been alive, yet suddenly is controversal.
This one is actually just straight up stupid. The future versions of ourselves donโt even currently โexist.โ That is not at all an argument for not caring about how our actions today will affect the people of the future
@henrygrabar
Strange that so much of the article seems to describe it as being a problem with parking spaces being too small rather than the cars being too large... if people are having trouble parking, then the answer is obviously to drive a smaller car?
@EvoIutlon
Some of my earliest experiences with the Internet was arguing with creationists in the 1990s, so it's kinda depressing to see how many responses to this video fundamentally misunderstand what evolution is. It doesn't seem like much has changed in the state of the debate.
@MMiraculorum
Some people need to realise that it's okay to just dislike some things (even dogs) and you don't need to dress your pet dislike in political language.
@ArmandDoma
Some disabled people don't want their impairments treated (e.g. many deaf people) and that's fine, but I agree that it's madness to criticise the act of making such treatments available to those that do want their impairments treated.
Solving Britain's housing crisis will involve densifying existing urban areas and areas around public transport hubs (like train stations). That's impossible if we have a rule of never building taller than the existing buildings.
@JamesInCity
@helenhayes_
Here's the site as it looks today - it couldn't be closer to Tulse Hill Station. It's not that this is too tall, it's that the current buildings are too short!
Gentrification discourse is strange in that the people who want to make housing abundant and cheap are criticised by those seek to make housing more scarce than it needs to be because they don't like how new/tall buildings look, or to preserve some decaying out of use building.
i know it's hard for a lot of people to understand but cities are first and foremost places where people live and work, not places for you to satisfy your personal aesthetic sensibilities
People used to argue that new housing (somehow) causes prices to go up, but the new argument tends to be that it doesn't push housing prices down enough (or quick enough). However, if all new housing does it allow people to live in the places they want to live, then that's good.
@Economissive
Guys what Iโve we built lots of new houses in places people want to live and the only thing we achieved was new houses in places people want to live?
@ready4preddy
I'm not sure how Americans cope. I'm British, I work 35 hours a week, and I have ~44 days of annual leave a year (including bank holidays and closure days). This doesn't include sick/domestic/compassionate leave.
@mattyglesias
In fairness, this doesn't sound like it forbids low prices, just low sales prices? For example, the /constant/ 'two for the price of one' sales at pizza restaurants mostly hide inflated prices for individual pizzas? Wouldn't be terribly if they just priced sensibly to start with?
@callmegiorgie
@fawfulfan
If this video was of a man criticising that outfit, then I think that would have resulted in a very different conversation.
Instead, what he choose to criticise was that a woman that doesn't live in the same neighbourhood that she grew up in.
@NoeliaCarmen13
@KatyMontgomerie
@DrProudman
If someone is assuming that everyone in prison is bad and violent, then I have strong doubts about whether they are genuinely interested in prisoner welfare and prison reform.
There's a really big divide in politics over whether it's bad to make a profit producing important things, or whether it's vitally important that people are able to make a profit producing important things. I tend towards the latter.
If a developer making a profit is the worst thing that comes out of building shelters, transitional housing, affordable housing, social housing, or whatever houses people....
@michael_wiebe
I'm repeatedly frustrated by people criticising 'luxury apartments' that are actually small two bedroom flats that are only expensive because they're built in a place where there aren't enough homes for everyone who wants to live there.
@byJoshuaDavis
I would definitely prefer to pay for a better service than get a worse service for free... and no matter what state subsidies we might imagine, income from fare is additional funding on top of that.
@perdricof
It's weird to me why some think that progress on social justice issues concerning sexual orientation and ethnicity would or should translate into different foreign policy regarding warfare. Why is progress on the former not valuable even /if/ nothing changed with the latter?
@gnrlyhd_
@_sadwaffle
Ambiguity between dd/mm/yyyy and mm/dd/yyyy is an argument that applies equally against /both/ of them, which makes YYYY-MM-DD seem more attractive.
dd/mm/yyyy is only confusing if you're used to mm/dd/yyyy instead though.
@MarkLeeWillis
@VictoriaScone
For example, I've always been primarily attracted to women, and not very attracted to men. I also know a few trans men. Although their assigned sex at birth was female, I don't find them personally attractive because they're men who look like men (but happen to be trans).