Researcher by nature, trying to figure things out. If that works out, I might tweet abt it. I tend to call out logically-inconsistent stuff; itโs not personal.
This ๐ should hopefully make it clear why I was mostly disappointed by last night's presentation. It was a big COMING SOON ad with very little new stuff actually shown (yes, the design of the robotaxi vehicle is important, but much less so than the progress in FSD performance).
WHAT I WANT TO SEE during Teslaโs upcoming 10/10 event:
- Robotaxi vehicle, incl. main features (functionality) and specs
- Update on FSD safety performance (specific metrics, not vague qualifiers)
- Update on Optimus, incl. demo of new abilities
- Cool engineering solutions to
Elon: I have decided that my private AI company will have full access to all the data shared by users on ๐ to train Grok, an LLM you can use if you get Premium tier and submit official ID to get validated; and you know itโs good AI bc I call it โmaximum truth-seekingโ
Elon
@ezsparky74
@nbcsnl
I think youโll watch. And then tweet again, about how bad you think it was, and then something about billionaires and extreme inequality, and how SNL is losing its way etc.
I have a lot of respect for Elonโs engineering knowledge, his vision, and his drive as an entrepreneur. But I have lost almost all respect for him as a commentator on current events, not bc of his political views, but bc of how he chooses to support his side.
At best, the
@Roos_1967
@buitengebieden
This is a case of crystallisation โ atoms arranging themselves along preferred directions and planes, selected via internal energy minimisation considerations specific to the chemical elements involved. What you see is called โdendritic growthโ.
Reactions to this announcement confirm once again that we, as a society, have lost the ability to simply admire people who succeeded against the odds thru talent, hard work and sheer determination, and weโd rather use cynicism to comfort ourselves for our own under-achievements.
@elonmusk
@DavidSacks
At a time when Putin is openly trying to rebuild the Soviet Union by essentially occupying territories in neighbouring countries, maybe disintegrating NATO is not the wisest move.
@POTUS
2012: Tesla starts delivering the Model S
2015: Tesla Model X
2017: Tesla Model 3
2019: Tesla Model Y
2021: GM *announces* the Electric Hummer
Biden: Hey kids, wait till you get a ride in one of these newfangled electric vehicles that are just coming out now!
๐คฆโโ๏ธ
@garyblack00
There's a group of Tesla "influencers" who monetise their activity on the platform, and as that monetisation scales with engagement โ and as engagement skyrockets whenever their posts or replies get interacted with by Elon โ their focus is on always being flattering towards Elon,
@heyitsyashu
I am uncomfortable growing Tesla to be a leader in AI & robotics without having ~25% voting control. Enough to be influential, but not so much that I canโt be overturned.
Unless that is the case, I would prefer to build products outside of Tesla. You donโt seem to understand
Tesla Model 3 was the best-selling car in the UK in June, and the only BEV in the top 10!
It also helped push the BEV market share in the UK to:
- 10.66% in June
- 8.12% in the first half of 2021.
This compares to 6.63% in 2020.
@mrJazs
@josephus77
@waitbutwhy
๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝWe strongly support LGBTQ rights, which are very important, but only where itโs legal for them to exist!โ ๐คฃ
What EVs are Europeans buying?
Better yet, what cars are they buying? And what are Teslaโs prospects in this market dominated by ๐ฉ๐ช and ๐ซ๐ท automakers?
A thread on how Tesla is changing car buyersโ behaviour to its benefit!
First, the top 50 best-selling BEV models in 2022:
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It's been interesting to note that Elon is no longer the main Tesla executive discussing the company's products, services and operations on ๐. In fact, Elon comments very little on Tesla-related topics these days. Increasingly in recent weeks we've seen other execs and top
Is Tesla losing market share in Europe?
Not at all, quite the opposite: itโs gaining market share at huge rates.
In Germany and the UK โ Europeโs largest auto markets โ Teslaโs share of new car sales went UP in 2022 by:
๐ฉ๐ช 74.2%
๐ฌ๐ง 59.9%
A โBEVs in Europeโ analysis ๐งต:
1/21
@SenSanders
What if you admitted that one thing has nothing to do with the other, and youโre using this false dichotomy to stir up outrage and to drum up support for yourself?
@JayFay75
@BradMossEsq
@elonmusk
Heโs showing that Tesla has an actual record of supporting the LGBTQ community.
The difference is, he was mocking companies that think simply adding a rainbow to their logos accomplishes the same.
Sorry youโre slow!
@Louisbotelho17
@elonmusk
@mtaibbi
Well, no. When the argument is that there are no biological markers that can uniquely and conclusively identify someone as either male or female, and the ONLY thing that matters is the individualโs own gender identity, then โgender-affirmingโ surgery stops making sense.
Is it too much to expect
@Reuters
to either retract the original misleading story, or to update it with this official statement from Tesla? It would make sense if the purpose of journalism is to present the facts to the general public, rather than to build up a certain narrative.
Reuters published an article that leads with a wildly misleading headline and is riddled with incomplete and demonstrably incorrect information.
This latest piece vaguely and nonsensically suggests there are thousands upon thousands of disgruntled Tesla customers. Itโs
@ContraPoints
1. Trans people are just fighting for their right to exist, so theyโre right by default.
2. Anyone raising any concerns related to any aspect of the trans movement is automatically a bigot.
3. There should be no debate about any of it.
Does the above capture the essence of it?
Bjรธrn summarises his review of the Tesla Model 3 Highland:
โ luxury cabin feel, great handling, improved suspension; better than a German luxury car!
โ poor driving experience caused by the lack of stalks; on-wheel buttons are unresponsive, making it difficult to engage AP
@JimMFelton
Interesting to see how many react to this news of Putin comparing himself to how JK Rowling was treated as if JK Rowling endorsed Putin.
Because that how stupidly indoctrinated people react.
@Rainmaker1973
No need to dumb it down; just multiply the two values and move the decimal point two digits to the left:
7 * 300 = 2100
Move decimal point 2 digits to the left โก๏ธ 21!
Also, this works with ANY base number, not just multiples of 100:
3% of 81:
3 * 81 = 243 โก๏ธ 2.43
In case you were wondering: in the past 24h Elon Musk posted, re-posted or replied 85 TIMES (yes, I counted, I got curious!).
There were ZERO posts related to Tesla โ only two replies to posts criticising the Delaware Court decision.
Iโll let you guess the topic of the rest of
@Chakradhar_SP
@elonmusk
@engineers_feed
Imagine being so dumb as to not realise that those tiny flames actually light up the wall next to them, but the rocket exhaust is 1. too far from the ground, and 2. much less bright than the Sun!
@ericowensdc
@bariweiss
Legal? Yes.
Necessary? Debatable.
Good? Strictly subjective.
Twitterโs management was within its right to suppress โundesirableโ content, but at the cost of lost trust in the fairness of the platform.
Reminder: โGoodโ is not whatever YOU prefer.
@elonmusk
@john_beans
@BillyM2k
Seems like โincome too low to have childrenโ is simply the reason people give themselves when they donโt want to have children.
Couples who want to have children, have children.
@LorenaSGonzalez
Hey, just wanted to say โCongratulations!โ, you finally achieved your goal of driving Tesla and its corporate tax contributions out of your state, which is definitely worth giving up in exchange for signalling your virtue! Very well done! ๐ ๐
Germany ๐ฉ๐ช new car sales update: the Model Y continues to hold a very respectable 4th place in YTD model sales, in a sea of VW lower-cost models.
The Model Y continues to make a big splash in Germany ๐ฉ๐ช this year:
โ 2nd best-selling car model in February
โ 4th best-selling model year-to-date (but moving much closer to 3rd than in Jan.)
Yes, there are 7 VW-branded models in that 2023 top 20, and only 4 non-German models!
@spleck
@elonmusk
@WholeMarsBlog
@jasondebolt
So, the data IS public but you need specialised tech and a degree of knowledge the vast majority of the public doesnโt possess in order to be able to parse it into actionable info.
In the same way that private account info released by hacking a website is also โpublicโ.
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@brunosilva
@garyblack00
@elonmusk
Youโre right. And if those things are more important to someone, they can find a company that accommodates them. Tesla doesnโt. Itโs a simple choice, really: do you want to work at Tesla under these conditions, or no. For many people, working at Tesla is worth it.
@TSLAFanMtl
โElon, can you share how many vehicles Tesla expects to deliver in 2024?โ
[long pause] โโฆThe real question should be, what kind of car can people really affordโฆ When all cars are autonomous, does owning a car even make sense? You know, we have this huge fusion reactor in the
The state of the global auto industry now:
Tesla โ "We're going back to the basics and completely rethinking how a car can be built, optimising for cost and speed of manufacturing; nothing is off the table, physics is the only rule"
Legacy auto โ "We have decades of experience
Neta Auto ๐จ๐ณ posted an image on Weibo showing the size of the Giga Presses used by Tesla and other OEMs.
They show Zeekr at 7,200 tons, Huawei at 9,000, Tesla at 12,000 (wrong, Tesla is at 9,000) and then Themselfs at 20,000 tons.
In addition to suggesting Neta to check their
@DavidZipper
@missy_cummings
Do you mean, THIS Missy Cummings?
Being a critic of one technological approach from a position of academic expertise is fine.
Building oneโs name by taking every opportunity to baselessly defame a major player thatโs about to cut into your income stream is abject and unethical.
For those wondering whether Missy Cummings, the Duke U. prof who recently โpublishedโ a paper trashing Teslaโs autonomous driving implementation under the guise of โresearchโ โ while being paid by an ADAS competitor โ has a history of attacking Tesla, wonder no more!
A thread:
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It's good to know that, on the day Tesla reported a significant miss on deliveries, the CEO is fully focused on the business and plans to address the issue by... oh, wait, no, it seems ILLEGALS is a much more pressing problem! ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
A breakdown โ for the technically-inclined โ of a new patent published yesterday (29th July), describing the alloy Tesla uses for the large front & rear cast sections of the Model Y (GIGA-CASTINGS)๐.
The patent is titled:
Die Cast Aluminum Alloys for Structural Components
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@jordanbpeterson
One of the study authors strongly disagrees with that interpretation of their results, and goes on (in other replies) to explain why their report doesnโt suggest Ivermectin is an effective treatment against Covid-19.
Confirmation bias seems quite strong with pro-Ivermectin folks.
For those wondering whether Missy Cummings, the Duke U. prof who recently โpublishedโ a paper trashing Teslaโs autonomous driving implementation under the guise of โresearchโ โ while being paid by an ADAS competitor โ has a history of attacking Tesla, wonder no more!
A thread:
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The level to which The Cult is praising him as he's threatening to abandon Tesla unless he gets exactly what he wants โ after having sold large amounts of stock and crashing the valuation in the process just over one year ago โ is sickening!
@elonmusk
@ylecun
@bneiluj
@how_many_roads_
Sorry to see the โwhat have you accomplishedโ approach backfired on you this time, Elon! Maybe try something other than personal attacks against people you disagree with?
Itโs official: Tesla Model 3 was the 2nd best-selling new CAR (incl. fossil-fuel models) in the UK in 2021!
It proves that:
โ EVโs are now clearly mainstream
โ the Model 3 is a great car, independent of its type of drivetrain
Congratulations
@elonmusk
and the
@Tesla
team!
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@RBReich
Iโd rather just call you either uneducated in market economics (which you clearly arenโt) or, much more likely, intellectually dishonest by cherry-picking unrelated data and implying a direct correlation.
@SenSanders
Key word: INCOME!
Rather than repeating the same tired false narrative over and over again, why donโt you try to address the wasteful spending of that tax revenue?
@Louisbotelho17
@elonmusk
@mtaibbi
Itโs not about what me or you or Elon know. Itโs about what is self-consistent. You canโt say thereโs no physical difference between A and B but then argue we have to apply physical changes to A to make it look like B.
@POTUS
I have this strange feelingโฆ like thereโs this prominentโฆ car company focused onโฆ what was itโฆ electric vehicles? Yes, yes, something like thatโฆ and they sell more of theseโฆ EVs in the US than everyone else combinedโฆ but itโs not GMโฆ if only I could rememberโฆ
#MaryLed
Iโm absolutely convinced that Tesla would not show the same rate of progress without Elon, despite its excellent engineering team; every team needs a strong leader to drive it in the optimal direction.
At the same time, Iโm currently convinced that Elon is far from driving Tesla
@benshapiro
Reporting accurate stories but out of context is called โcherry-pickingโ, and yes, it is a propaganda tool.
Because those reporting it can always say โhey, is anything false in my reporting? NO! So Iโm right and youโre wrong!โ
Context matters!
@RBReich
Looking forward to your tweet later today discussing the billions Elon Musk just lost and how that further emphasises wealth inequality.
Oh, wait, it doesnโtโฆ it emphasises that some large-cap stocks are highly volatile, and that impacts major stockholdersโ โnet worthโโฆ NVM.
@Investor421
@WholeMarsBlog
@28delayslater
@elonmusk
How can anyone not living under a rock watch this and not chuckle? Like, who is he targeting with this alternative-reality speech? Itโs not like Tesla being the worldโs pre-eminent EV maker is some sort of a well-kept secret.
@tj_struck
@MKBHD
Whatโs your bladder range?
How long can you go without getting something to eat or drink?
How long can you sit and not stretch your legs?
If the point is โa typical road tripโ as opposed to โgo as fast as possible, take hrs to recover afterwardsโ, the EVs are not that slow.
California Assemblywoman celebrates winningโฆ oh, sorry, no, LOSING a major employer and state tax contributor bc she decided itโs a good idea to verbally abuse its CEO on a public platform as an exercise in virtue signalling.
Maybe โF*ck Lorena Gonzalezโ is more appropriate.
@stekkerauto
Itโs amazing how the authors manage to completely ignore the American elephant in the EV room! Itโs not like the Model Y completely dominates BEV sales, both in Germany and worldwide.
@a_meta4
@elonmusk
@scottwww
@realrobcopeland
I think you might be reading too much into it. Heโs not looking for empathy, he simply doesnโt care about material possessions. I mean, his whole life is proof of that. He couldโve kicked back long ago, avoid all the crazy Tesla drama. Heโs simply passionate about engineering.
@elonmusk
@StephenKing
Twitterโs approach to content moderation is seen as being informed by your political & societal views, regardless of whether thatโs actually the case.
The best thing you can do short-term is to stop expressing any view which can be construed as political or ideological.
@Louisbotelho17
@elonmusk
@mtaibbi
You mean, medical science has advanced enough to where we can start pretending biology is not real, while fighting it daily with large amounts of hormones.
@AskKennyL
@dropthaBernanks
@cmclymer
@TIME
@elonmusk
It goes like this:
Rich = bad
Very rich = more bad; should pay more tax
The richest = evil, oppressive, tax-evading billionaire!!1!11!
Yes, thatโs about as deep or nuanced this argument goes.
@KonstantinKisin
They actually claimed that him wanting Twitter to be โinclusiveโ in the sense of a lot more people (like, around 1B compared to 200M now) with diverse opinions โ even non-PC ones โ is the same as saying โAll Lives Matterโ.
But sure, Twitter is not Left-leaningโฆ
I much prefer long-form interview/podcast
@elonmusk
than ๐-reply Elon. The former is thoughtful and careful to provide nuance to his comments; the latter seems impulsive, careless, ignorant, and often unnecessarily offensive.
@Rainmaker1973
โGrab it by the finโ is definitely the first thought that wouldโve popped into my mind as well when spotting the largest specimen of an apex predator!
๐
This is such a disappointingly juvenile replyโฆ itโs basically bullying.
Taking this logic to its extreme, Elon and Tesla are beyond any reproach โ essentially, flawless โ bc anyone whoโd want to criticise any aspect of Teslaโs strategy would need to be more successful than him.
I am truly shocked by the level of tribalism around Elonโฆ this is full-on Cult of Personality stuff. The replies are even worse! Disturbing and upsetting to read.
In a way it makes sense โ Elon is a very inspiring individual โ but it feels unreal that some people become so
Elon is doing everything right. I am not saying this because I am Elon "fan". All those people complaining about Elon right now are people who follow Elon only for stock / money. Nothing else.
Picture is bigger than you think. If USA fails, FSD, Engineering or Stock doesn't
@io_nathaniel
Just start with โI didnโt really understand how Apple is planning to implement this stuffโ rather than posting that nonsense. ChatGPT is not part of the OS; Apple uses APIs to query it as needed.
Tesla sales in Europe ๐ช๐บ โ MAY 2024 update:
- 19,108 cars delivered โก๏ธ -35.9% year-on-year; the lowest second-month-of-quarter sales number for Tesla in Europe since August 2022
- on a trailing-3-month basis (full-quarter data), Tesla's sales in Europe are the lowest in 19
@evomagazine
I can only imagine the darkness that engulfs oneโs soul when youโre an engineer in the team tasked with developing this โfeatureโ.
If Toyota was making smartphones, theyโd put dials on them.
@bopinion
You know the legacy industry (the guys paying for the ads) is really desperate when you see articles like this!
โOh, look, that green energy you think will save the world is actually dirty!โ
Letโs all lose hope then, and letโs just keep burning oil bc itโs all the same, right?
@owenshift
We have very little objective info to justify trusting Elonโs companies with personal data more than Apple. Itโs mostly just cognitive bias built on the perception that Elon is โon our sideโ, rightly or wrongly.
@LimitingThe
@elonmusk
@gainzy222
In my view, not helping Ukraine in any way possible for fear of โangeringโ a nuclear power is essentially allowing Putin to hold the West hostage. Choosing to protect a victim shouldnโt be decided on whether it is easy or risk-free; thatโs precisely what a bully counts on.
@Truenortheh64
@elonmusk
@john_beans
@BillyM2k
True. Society has changed, and fewer young people marry and live in the same town/city their parents live, which means they benefit less from that familial support. In turn, that means it takes them longer to reach the financial sufficiency required for raising children.
@elonmusk
@DeItaone
Yeah, you obviously canโt visit Gaza, which is why it wasnโt a great idea to visit the border area in Israel. In your eagerness to dispel the perception of antisemitism, youโve essentially ended up taking sides. There are human tragedies on both sides of that border.
@LimitingThe
I suspect the 2.5MWh figure is the energy equivalent of the diesel fuel burned for the job, not the actual energy needed in a logging truck with an electric drivetrain. And that's assuming it's not just a number he pulled out of his backside.
The Tesla community is increasingly morphing into the Cult of Tesla, and itโs frankly frightening to witness.
How to know whoโs a Cult Member? Itโs people whose argument starts with:
- โElon saidโฆโ
- โThe Mission isโฆโ
- โOnly Tesla cuts prices bc they CAN, not bc they have toโ
@iIIusionsKzz
@RBReich
Good thing Elon Muskโs net worth is not accumulated salary, then!
Now, do you have something useful to express, or did you just want to brag about your arithmetic skills?
@WholeMarsBlog
@Berlinergy
His honesty isโฆ almost shocking! I mean, yeah, most people in the business are aware of this stuff, but nobody talks about it openly. Iโm not sure heโs making many friends in the industry, but it increases investorsโ confidence in the management for sure.
@CzechArtGirl
@xIronman777
I totally get why you think this is a positive story.
What it really is, is a story of selfishness and a bit of luck. Thereโs a reason FSD is in Beta, and why supervision is critical at all times. Make your own choices when the outcome only impacts* you.
*pun intended
@RBReich
Where is the part in which you mention that Tesla employees receive stock options, and that Muskโs total asset worth increased as a result of Teslaโs stock price going up (investorsโ confidence went up), and so as Muskโs wealth increased, so did the wealth of his employees?
Tesla sales in Europe ๐ช๐บ โ MAY 2024 update:
- 19,108 cars delivered โก๏ธ -35.9% year-on-year; the lowest second-month-of-quarter sales number for Tesla in Europe since August 2022
- on a trailing-3-month basis (full-quarter data), Tesla's sales in Europe are the lowest in 19
Tesla sales in Germany ๐ฉ๐ช โ DECEMBER & END-OF-YEAR update... basically, it's all bad:
- 4,001 vehicles delivered in December make this Tesla's worst 3rd-month-of-qtr sales since... Q2 2022!
- Q4 2023 is Tesla's worst quarter of sales since... Q2 2022; even below Q4 2021 sales
The best example: the major automakers in ๐ฉ๐ช, a market that contracted 26.5% since 2019:
- VW 18.50% (2019) โข 18.14% (2022), sales ๐ฝ by 28%
- Mercedes 9.4% (2019) โข 9.2% (2022), sales ๐ฝ by 28%
Audi, BMW, Opel are similar.
Ford sales ๐ฝ by 53%!
Tesla sales ๐ผ by 553%
5/21