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🧵 Final thread on the apostasy of Abu Kitten al-Meowy/Al-Mansur al-Maliki: As many of you might be aware, the infamous Abu Kitten al-Meowy (AKM) who also used go by the name "Mansur" has been exposed as a murtadd nearly 2 weeks ago.
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However, due to his persistent refusal to confess despite being confronted with the evidences multiple times, a lot of people were reluctant to make takfīr of him. In this thread, I will publish his own testimony of his riddah and also clarify some issues surrounding it.
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His reasoning was that he wanted to save Muslims' īmān by informing them about things that everyone is concealing and distorting. But the real problem was the way he would approach laymen. He would almost always explain the issues in an extremely unappealing manner to voluntarily
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Firstly, let me clarify who AKM is for those that might not be aware: AKM's main job on twitter was to go around and trigger lay Muslims about controversial fiqh opinions that exist in the books of the fuqahāʾ. Sometimes these opinions were correct and other times they weren't.
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make the person feel disgusted. That's why a lot of people suspected early on that he was a kāfir fed who was trying to make Muslims leave Islam. To get a clearer idea of who he was, some of his old tweets can be checked from the following links: *
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Also, he still hasn't gotten fully public with this because apparently he has lent someone money for ʿumrah and he won't pay it back if he comes to know that he's a murtadd. Our job is to expose vile munāfiqīn like him and make our own spaces safer We pray to Allāh for guidance.
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Everything started recently when an ethnic Jew named Michael leaked a screenshot of his private dms with AKM where he admitted to being a kafir. The first ss is the one with the messages containing kufr and the 2nd one is taken after he deleted them:
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Lastly, I want to add that as this person is a known arrogant munafiq even if he converts to Islam now, we must treat him with suspicion and not give him that much attention. He said he apostatized in mid 2023 but it's plausible to assume that it happened much earlier than that &
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he's lying now to cover that up. This theory is strengthened by the fact that his doubts are all very silly coming from a person who knows about fiqh as much as him (not that he knows A LOT).
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AKM is a person who used to belittle the resistance of Palestinian Muslims against the zionist occupations while claiming to be a Muslim. He tried to argue by using pseudo-legalistic arguments that Muslims shouldn't support the war against Israel because..
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@MoFoBooty @sharghzadeh @AliMirz93337139 Yo 😂 diarrhea is NOT a big word for any nepalese person, i assure you
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Back to his apostasy: It's clear that this person was already extremely controversial on twitter due to his vile nature. However, the fact that he is an outright apostate wasn't as clear.
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@abuharoonsyed Some people got amazed that he could be so unhinged when speaking about the dīn. These people just have a desire to be edgy and feel special.
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various reasons. I won't get into the reasons but there's absolutely no doubt that the two are the same. Mansur's infamous final thread can be found here:
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the Palestinians are not "Islamist enough" (essentially). In doing so, he said some absolutely vile and deranged stuff such as this which was publicly shared by @SimsimMaturidi : (Side note: @AKMresearch is Abu Kitten al-Meowy)
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Some of you may ask what's my proof for calling him Mansur. The answer to that is that he referred me after I put a lot of pressure on him to a trustworthy friend (I won't mention his name) who told me that he was Mansur, and of course it was already evident to most people for..
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Plus, the screenshots were also verified by 3rd party sources (tech people) who had no knowledge of the situation so as to dispel any doubts surrounding the Jew being a fabricator:
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Seems like some people got confused. This thread is NOT about @AbuKittenTweets
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When this was shown to AKM, instead of admitting that he was a murtadd, he started denying it saying he forgot. Some screenshots from his server:
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* * * * * * He also has a YouTube channel which is currently active:
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Obviously, most of us weren't content with this response and especially I was insistent that he is indeed a kāfir. That's why we sent a muslimah in his dms where he admitted to being a kāfir and tried to convince her that Islam is false:
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Interesting side note: The Jew already said it before all of this in the server that he could keep AKM in line:
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After all of this, AKM's server was nuked. Then two discord users Jafar and CuriousSapien made a private gc called "Arbitration" with AKM where he changed his claim that he forgot saying that a female kafirah "associate" wrote the texts using his phone and then they deleted it.
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After we decided to confront him in a telegram group chat about these screenshots by adding Zamasu, he abruptly left it without any explanation and came out as a kāfir that day to a group of Muslims on WhatsApp and subsequently to a lot of others who approached him privately:
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Moreover, we found more screenshots from another discord user named Zamasu who was a murtadd at the time when AKM wrote these to him and he later converted:
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@TheInfamousRG May Allah hasten his departure from the internet
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@ezbenjamin4 > Segment on mansur being meowy is not relevant It is relevant because many people on MT are more familiar with Mansur than AKM > "various reasons I wont go into" what's the point of mentioning it then? THe point is as I mentioned above and I didn't mention the reasons cuz...
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@FardeemM wont be surprised if some bengali parent named their daughter tabarruj thinking it's "cool and islamic"
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@D1mashqi Salafi fiqh at it again. It's unfortunate how this level of unnecessary strictness is portrayed as being virtuous. Unfortunately, many religious laymen tend to get swayed by such reasoning and cannot grant that the religion might be lenient in certain places.
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@afall40 He's a kāfir just how Abu Jahl was a kāfir. There should be no doubt about that after this thread.
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@D1mashqi @IbnKamalPasha11 "Not all" is an understatement bro. Only 5-6% of the total bengali muslim population (around 180M) say "fothaballa" or whatever. The rest just call it sehri.
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"Discord screenshots aren't proof" Dude multiple people contacted him multiple times on his discord, telegram and WhatsApp accounts and got the same response in both text and voice message. Denying his apostasy after all of this is just a low IQ edgy cope.
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@Muhamma55910196 @aqilazmeo @therealkufan Just accept that you failed to understand a joke and move on lol. It's not a big deal. But of course a Salafi can't ever be a Salafi without displaying poor adab, aggression and holier-than-thou attitude.
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@mulllahammad His legal reasoning is sound, you don't need to study the topic for 20 years to know what the thing is. The only reason you're criticizing Ibn al-'Uthaymin is because you are part of his rival tribe which prevents you from being just towards him.
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@desertpearI First read it as "Bashar has leukemia?!" and was about to be as delighted as I've never been...
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@fewandfarbtwn what about condemning both?
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"Discord screenshots aren't proof" Dude multiple people contacted him multiple times on his discord, telegram and WhatsApp accounts and got the same response in both text and voice message. Denying his apostasy after all of this is just a low IQ edgy cope.
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@Qutbist I agree. Sayyiduna Abu Bakr is most superior, followed by Sayyiduna ‘Umar, then Sayyiduna ‘Uthman, then Sayyiduna ‘Ali, May Allah be pleased with them. So what is your point?
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@nomad_islamist @Farid_0v Like I don't understand how this guy @Farid_0v keeps on boasting that "muslim apologists" are all "ahl al-sunnah" and at the same time gets triggered if someone brings up the obvious truth the vast majority of scholars for centuries were far from salafism
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@Muhamma55910196 @aqilazmeo @therealkufan You know what, your reaction is infinitely more cringeworthy if you actually did that after understanding that it's a joke. Secondly, that's precisely what the problem with Salafism is lol. You treat/behave with other Muslims outside of your hizb the way we treat kuffar.
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@nomad_islamist Wait till you find Akbaris getting salty over not considering Ibn 'Arabi's dreams proofs for something
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@Tahir_X_ I am yet to understand what relevance these inscriptions have to the discussion about the existence of polytheism in Mecca. None of the empirical evidence discovered so far contradicts anything we have in the Qur'an, they merely confirm that the inhabitants recognized Allah...
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@Ahmed45670 May Allah punish both the madakhila and the neo-trads for their crimes against the ummah
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@Tsunalyst For some people, that's what's attractive about Hanafism and Malikism, and that's what's pushed me towards Shafi'ism (and Dhahirism to some extent). The Ahl al-Hadith-Hanafi debates in the subcontinent could have been a good academic exercise had both camps not resorted to petty
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@IbneKhan01 It's basically always an attempt to appeal to their emotions and 'urf sometimes serves as a great tool for that.
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@FardeemM nothing beats common arabic names like 'abd Allah, muhammad, ahmad etc for males tbh
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@Sakayser632 @nomad_islamist My thread is literally about refuting that nonsense lol. As I said, initially he refused to come out saying that he forgot and then claimed that his kafirah associate typed from his phone. And lastly when multiple people leaked their ss, he testified to many Muslims that I shared
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@PetWeb_ @fahd_ibn_ala @TheInfamousRG Moreover, this isn't just a "small" mistake or a slip of the tongue (he's literally claiming to correct other people while saying the wrong thing). It's the continuous repetition of the same pattern of mistakes that no student who has taken one class in nahw and sarf would make.
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@Tsunalyst @alsenegalen6 I'm not sure if it's anything other than an IQ issue that has still kept the discourse alive
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@PetWeb_ @fahd_ibn_ala @TheInfamousRG Dude, how can you actually vouch for an individual who is a complete charlatan lacking absolutely basic knowledge of nahw and sarf whilst masquerading as a scholar? Just because he managed to convert a few kuffar, we are supposed to platform a liar and fraudster?
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@MuslimBigBoss @alaztekiyyah Yemen became jewish influenced monotheistic around 4th century CE
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@Qutbujaddin @ezbenjamin4 I get it but I think the vast majority of people who were active on 2021-22 twitter and saw Mansur speaking wouldn't find that out of place. I could make a thread proving my point but I don't think it's necessary.
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@ezbenjamin4 I'm not attempting to prove AKM is Mansur in the thread, I'm attempting to prove he is a murtadd.
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@Livinginthis @SimsimMaturidi Did you miss the whole expose of Abu Kitten on here? (genuinely question)
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@D1mashqi May Allah bless you and him
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@Tahir_X_ considerations of what ascribing "partnership" with God's attributes means are also topics that are worth considering when discussing the topic. But again, these inscriptions add absolutely nothing to that discussion.
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@Tahir_X_ which is pretty explicit in the Qur'an as well. When we have two contemporaneous sources complementing each other and one of them containing information absent in the other source, we don't reinterpret the former for reconciliation, since there simply isn't anything to reconcile.
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@nomad_islamist @SharK____0____ Yes two of the most reliable sources in fact
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@nomad_islamist The too many layers of high IQ logic in that tweet makes me scared to even look at it!!
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@Tahir_X_ took them as gods (ʾālihah) and worshiped them . The definition of each of those terms falls under the domain of theology and not history. Whether taking some object or created being as a "god" or "partner of god" implies the ascription of power independent of God to them or...
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@MalikElArab @Tahir_X_ Why are you such an aggressive individual lol? I've read almost all major works of Al-Jallad on the topic and I'm constantly discussing the topic with friends of the same persuasion.
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@nomad_islamist @fascondo That + these people don't seem to have a clue on how languages work "Nikah means sex in Egyptian Arabic, so how come these pakis are using it for marriage 💀💀💀" Doesn't understand the simple concept that the same word could denote something completely different when borrowed
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@IbneKhan01 your humor on twitter vs your humor in private are worlds apart mate
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@nomad_islamist These mal'uns are some of our biggest obstacles
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@Tahir_X_ Applying the principle in this particular case, there's no reason to reinterpret Qurʾānic verses to portray these people as monotheists. Every objective historian should accept the apparent meaning of the numerous verses that they associated partners (shurakāʾ) with Allah,
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@MalikElArab @Tahir_X_ We would've needed to do the latter had there been any mention of idols that affirm that they didn't believe that these were "gods" or something else contradictory to the Qur'an.
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@Tahir_X_ whether worship of those deities is analogous to the istiġāthah practiced by latter Muslims is a discussion that's dependent upon the interpretation of multiple Qurʾānic verses whose interpretation is NOT being aided by the discovery of these inscriptions.
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@chonkshonk1 @muslimcritiques Doesn't mean much if early muslims viewed him positively
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@LarMusulman It's not exactly anti-salafi, more like it uses all sorts of bootlickers from both camps for its agenda
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@MalikElArab @Tahir_X_ Al-Jallad's point is regarding the absence of evidence for idol worship. His question is: If the society was really a polytheistic one, why don't we have any polytheistic inscription?
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10. The nicest kafir is filthier than the worst and most sinful Muslim 11. The opinions that music and "free-mixing" are permissible are not as definitive as the tahrim of khamr and zina, and should be seen as valid differences of opinion
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@Har67280687Hugh He lives in the UK, idk which city
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@MalikElArab @Tahir_X_ Hence, Al-Jallad and co's deduction that the mushrikin were just like sufi mustaghithin from absence of evidence is inaccurate.
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@IbneKhan01 Off topic, but why do so many people double a letter in so many words like "kaffir" "biddah" "nikkah" "hassan" etc. when there's no shaddah on these letters?
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@DrJavadTHashmi I just pray to Allah that he inflicts the most severe punishment on you. If you have so much issue with what's in the Qur'an to the point you need to distort its teachings, why not just become a murtadd? What's the point of living this life of delusion and deceit?
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@PetWeb_ @fahd_ibn_ala @TheInfamousRG If you thing what has been said here is just because he "misspelled a name", then the only thing I can do is pray to God to increase your understanding.
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@nomad_islamist @Farid_0v I think both of these points are irrelevant in the context of salafi-ash'ari polemics but I obviously care 10000000000x more about ash'ari fuqahaa, usulis and mutakallimin than most of these modern "apologists" notwithstanding their good contributions
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@umarelhashmi You guys (both salafi and trad polemicists) are utterly boring and pathetic. Do something beneficial instead of these silly rants.
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Do these people deny knowledge based on reports? The vibe I get is, "I myself need to hear it from him, I can't trust all these Muslims super close to him saying the same thing."
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That being said it’s very easy to have a name changed on discord and to say whatever you want to say, so maybe an actual confirmation from him on his YouTube channel can help clarify a lot in this case
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@_Abdullah_Saleh WHy should anyone care about the Amman message? I'm not making takfir of shi'a but this document is totally irrelevant
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@WhIdek69072 @Sakayser632 It's not possible that he's 16-17. He has been arguing on twitter about religion since 2018 or so and I know people who knew him on facebook even before 2018. He's in his late 20s and has a slightly high pitched voice.
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@Muqaatill Whatever account I create on twitter, I always make sure that he's one of the first persons to go to my block list.
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7. No maslaha should be given precedence to a clear text even in places where the text clashes with people's feelings 8. Istighatha is an ugly and horrific bid‘ah but not shirk 9. Al-Bouti, HY, Bin Bayyah, Al-Jifri type sufis and madkhalis are both vile enemies of the Muslims.
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@fahd_ibn_ala Are you telling me now that there are people who seriously think that usul al-fiqh is all nonsense?
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@PhDniX @davidboxenhorn I'm guessing the tradition of borrowing *p as both /b/ and /f/ was in existent for a long time post-Islām like how Spahān was borrowed as both ʾAṣbahān and ʾIsfahān? Also wouldn't it indicate that the relatively newer *p as /b/ phenomenon is also pretty archaic?
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@Tahir_X_ > is analogous to the istiġāthah practiced by latter Muslims is a discussion that's dependent upon the interpretation of multiple Qurʾānic verses I should clarify that the verses are not the only thing that matter while discussing these topics. Linguistic definition and rational
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@ukhchai It's obviously cuz salafis have different definitions for worship
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@AhmadKh43451601 @D1mashqi it's totally plausible they're anomalies within the diaspora.
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@ezbenjamin4 > You don't have proof he is Mansur I absolutely do but I don't want to drag the brother who told me this into this whole drama. If you're content with trusting this pathological liar, then idk what to say
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@DinAsSahabah @avdvllah_ What part of his post is that repugnant to you?
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@PetWeb_ @fahd_ibn_ala @TheInfamousRG To make things worse, he also manages to pronounce the correct one: Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyyah wrongly by saying "Ibn Qayyim aj-Jawziyyah". I don't know why you're defending him, but if it's cuz he's "on the manhaj", my sincere advice would be to develop some integrity.
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@nomad_islamist "Hamas" is not what matters the most for muslims in this war anyway. The lives of muslims and the land are what truly matter. Hamas is just acting as the savior against the enemy atm.
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@nomad_islamist @ThisIsTheNaiad Yeh this is definitely not correct. Takfir should be based on solid proofs that guarantee yaqin
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