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HerbivoRyzing

@herbivoryze

1 year

If you don’t share the anti-predation view, what’s your strongest argument for keeping predation around?

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@herbivoryze

4 months

“Humans are in many ways a monstrous species. But we are also the only species intellectually capable of dismantling the engine of suffering, natural selection, and creating a happy, peaceful civilized biosphere underpinned by gradients of intelligent bliss.” - David Pearce

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We will soon end the 550 million year reign of terror

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The first academic paper specifically on turning predators into herbivores

Nature without Suffering: Herbivorisation of Predator Species for the Compassionate Stewardship of...

Abstract Predation causes suffering and the premature deaths of prey animals. With innovative technologies on the horizon, humanity could phase it out. We argue that herbivorisation, i.e., turning...

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@herbivoryze

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Vegans (and everyone) should be anti-predation because prey animals do not care that the cause of their suffering is not us; they just care that they suffer

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@herbivoryze

7 months

Saying humans have a right to be protected from predators but non-human animals do not is an example of speciesism

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@herbivoryze

1 year

The vast majority of humans today do not view predation in the wild as a problem. This situation will dramatically shift this century and then humanity will begin redesigning Earth’s ecosystems.

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@herbivoryze

1 year

It’s hard to believe ending this is controversial. No sentient being should be forcibly killed.

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@herbivoryze

3 months

Abolish predation

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@herbivoryze

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Eliminating extreme suffering in nature should be a global priority.

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Protecting humanity (and our pets) but not wild prey from predators reeks of speciesism.

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@herbivoryze

1 year

How can anyone look at predation and think anything other than what the actual fuck we must end this horrific shit show?

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@herbivoryze

11 months

Humanity is so speciesist and uncaring that farm animals would have to beg for mercy in human languages before most people would choose not to eat them

Science Magazine

@ScienceMagazine

11 months

New research is showing that farm animals may be capable of much more than we think. The findings could offer insights into how domestication shaped their brains and could even change how we house and treat them. Learn more this week in Science:

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@herbivoryze

3 months

We will abolish suffering and death for all sentient beings.

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@herbivoryze

2 months

It’s unjustified that we are doing nothing to systematically prevent this.

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@herbivoryze

1 year

To offset the gradualness of herbivorization, free-roaming AI biomimetic cultivated meat prey robots could mitigate predation in the wild. 💡

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@herbivoryze

11 months

99.99% of humans if given the choice would rather die that way than by a predator. Is it crazy to extrapolate that to wild animals?

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@herbivoryze

2 months

Cancer is natural. Not a problem. Abolishing cancer is a problem.

Ana Maria Castaño

@ranamarilla

2 months

@webmasterdave @fox_e_laurence @herbivoryze Predation is natural. Not a problem. Pretending to abolish predation is a problem.

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Species and ecosystems can’t suffer, but individual animals can.

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@herbivoryze

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Veganism should include preventing harm to all animals not just domesticated ones

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“naturogenic wild animal suffering is…as important as naturogenic human suffering.” - Eze Paez

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@herbivoryze

1 year

This is not okay. Nobody blinks an eye. Predation must be phased out this century.

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@herbivoryze

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If we discovered an alien civilization that had herbivorized their ecosystems, it would be absurd to insist they re-predatorize them.

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@herbivoryze

8 months

“…some animal ethicists argue that it is even permissible to go as far as ‘paradise engineering’ – if possible – in the form of fully redesigning nature to alleviate animal suffering.” (Wienhues et al., 2023)

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@herbivoryze

5 months

We are cruel and callous to defend our species from predators but not other species

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Why assume that the natural state of affairs is optimal for animal well-being?

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5 months

Nature should not consist of conflicts between different kinds of sentient beings.

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21 days

If all sentient beings had a vote on whether or not to end predation we know how that would go

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@herbivoryze

9 months

“…my conclusion is, first, that we should recognize the problem as a problem:…a gazelle’s telos or goal is to live its life, not to be eaten by a predator. And, second, that we should interfere…with great caution.” - Martha Nussbaum

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@herbivoryze

1 year

In the near future, biotechnologies like gene drives will become advanced enough to allow us to fundamentally redesign ecosystems to minimize suffering and maximize happiness of all sentient beings (paradise engineering)

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@herbivoryze

11 months

Awesome how humans see no moral issue with predation in the wild yet are scared shitless when they are the hunted.

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Mountain Lion stalks Elk hunter in Idaho, saved by warning shots

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@herbivoryze

1 year

How are you NOT against nature??

Alice✨️🌈💞 Number 1 Catra fan

@AllosaurusJP

1 year

@henri_mourant It's literally just an animal feeding? How are people against nature?? You do understand komodo dragons are a vital part of the islands they call home and without them their prey would suffer a much worse death from starvation after their ecosystem completely collapses?

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@herbivoryze

1 year

Veganism logically entails predation abolition

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@herbivoryze

1 year

I was holding my two year old daughter on a walk moments ago and for the first time out of nowhere she said, “Darwinian evolution is ethically indifferent.” I started to quietly tear up. She couldn’t see my face and I didn’t make a sound, but she said, “Don’t cry. It’s okay.”

Chase Geiser

@realchasegeiser

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I was holding my two year old daughter on a walk moments ago and for the first time out of nowhere she said, “God is good. God is real.” I started to quietly tear up. She couldn’t see my face and I didn’t make a sound, but she said, “Don’t cry. It’s okay.”

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@herbivoryze

2 months

We don’t want to be preyed upon, and neither do other animals. It’s selfish to protect our own species but not others.

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@herbivoryze

8 months

Nature is not deserving of respect

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@herbivoryze

11 months

We are not. We know prey do not want to be predated. It is the animals’ wishes and desires that we eliminate predation. They wish to be born into a world without threats from predators. We are following their interests.

austincarcharia.bsky.social

@PaleoAustin_C

11 months

Ok here's the thing... come closer, listen up! you simply CANNOT apply human morals on nature

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@herbivoryze

1 year

“It’s important to keep pointing out that antelopes were not made to be food. They were made to live antelope lives. The fact that so often they do not get to live those lives is a problem.” - Martha C. Nussbaum, Justice for Animals: Our Collective Responsibility

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@herbivoryze

3 months

The first and technically easiest way we may tackle predation is to separate predators from prey and feed them lab-grown meat.

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@herbivoryze

10 months

Not a reason not to be vegan. Also not a reason to accept other animals eating each other.

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@herbivoryze

5 months

If we don’t want to be preyed upon, we can infer neither do other animals. Let’s end predation once and for all.

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@herbivoryze

1 year

In the future we will replace the carnage of nature with compassionate population regulation

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@herbivoryze

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Nature sucks! Cancer, predation, the list is enormous.

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Nature.

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“Considering the sheer scale of wild animal suffering…it’s worth doing the research necessary to determine whether radical forms of behavior change are feasible and could be safely implemented.” - Kyle Johannsen

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@herbivoryze

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Twitter wanna-be ecologists: “without predators herbivores will balloon in numbers and eat everything” Actual ecologists: “example upon example of well-studied populations where we have no confident understanding as to what ultimately sets their abundance” (citation below)

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@herbivoryze

7 months

Predation must end simply because you would not want to be them

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The goal must be to END predation not just reduce it.

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Why not re-engineer nature to be abodes where all animals can live in peace and harmoniously co-exist?

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Evolution and feeding experiments suggest that all lizards probably can be turned into obligate herbivores. Three infraorders of lizards have herbivorous species: Iguania, Gekkota, and Scincomorpha.

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@herbivoryze

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“Blindness to suffering is an inherent consequence of natural selection. Nature is neither kind nor cruel but indifferent.” - Richard Dawkins

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@herbivoryze

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“Today many people who care about animals think that we ought to inhibit human violence against animals…but do nothing to interfere with nature’s violence…Can this common attitude be defended?” - Martha C. Nussbaum, Justice for Animals: Our Collective Responsibility

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@herbivoryze

1 year

Thinking predation is “cool” or “rad”displays your immaturity and lack of empathy. You wouldn’t feel that way if you were the prey would you?

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@herbivoryze

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Why isn’t there an annual international meeting to solve wild animal suffering?

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@herbivoryze

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The inaugural International Predation Abolition Conference (IPAC) in Brighton, East Sussex, England, summer 2025. Details TBD. Who’s coming?

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@herbivoryze

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Herbivorization is one of the few ways of abolishing predation without wiping out countless evolutionary lineages or indefinitely segregating predators from prey

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@herbivoryze

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“…it is impossible to rule out the validity of mobilizing politically for wild animals even when their suffering is caused by natural processes such as disease, hunger and predation.” - Mara-Daria Cojocaru & Alasdair Cochrane (2023) “Solidarity with Wild Animals”

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@herbivoryze

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“The future is decided by optimists”

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@herbivoryze

11 months

As we learn how to mass-produce synthetic food cheaply the concept of feeding wild predators to mitigate predation of sentient prey will become more plausible.

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@herbivoryze

1 year

How long until predation abolition moves into the Overton Window? 25 years? 50 years? 100 years?

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@herbivoryze

11 months

I wouldn’t call a system in which animals prey on each other harmonious.

Sarah S. A.

@GothicXRose90

11 months

I don’t believe in interfering in the natural order of things. Life is unfair, but human intervention also disrupts the natural cycles + harmony of our ecosystems. If that means some animals have to suffer, then so be it. We aren’t here to *fix* something that isn’t broken.

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@herbivoryze

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“…the proposal [to turn carnivores into herbivores through genetic engineering] is an interesting one since, presumably, ending predation would help reduce net suffering, and it is not far-fetched to alter dietary preferences through genetic engineering.” - Ole Martin Moen

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@herbivoryze

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“[Nature] you are the avowed enemy of mankind and of all other animals and even your own works…By habit and by destiny you are the destroyer of your own family, your children, your own flesh and blood.” - Giacomo Leopardi

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@herbivoryze

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Viewed from a distance, the natural world often presents a vista of sublime, majestic placidity. Yet beneath the foliage and hidden from the distant eye, a vast, unceasing slaughter rages…Agonized suffering and violent death are ubiquitous and continuous. - Jeff McMahan

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@herbivoryze

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A very influential philosopher (and non-vegan!) suggesting humanity should phase out predation if we can! (Nick Bostrom, “Deep Utopia: Life and Meaning in a Solved World”)

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@herbivoryze

1 year

Why idly stand by and accept that nature is a warzone when we can transform it? Most wild animals don’t make it to adulthood but as babies are picked off by predators or starve or desiccate.

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@herbivoryze

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Herbivorization is simply about extending non-violence everywhere

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“in the distant future when our scientific expertise would have advanced even further, to prevent a new predatory species from arising” - Jeff McMahan

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If we were helpless victims of predation we would wish that a more advanced species would rescue us from that process.

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@herbivoryze

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Allowing predation to continue will one day be viewed in the way we view human sacrifice today

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@herbivoryze

1 year

What if the goal of science was not merely gaining understanding but eliminating suffering and death and maximizing well-being?

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@herbivoryze

1 year

Eliminating extreme suffering in nature should be a global priority.

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@herbivoryze

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We could edit prey genomes such that when *firmly* caught by a predator their pain sensitivity genes are immediately shut down providing anesthesia.

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@herbivoryze

10 months

There are more humane methods for population control of herbivores.

Colorado Parks and Wildlife

@COParksWildlife

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A historic day for Colorado and for the first time ever — we released 5 wolves, 3 males and 2 females, in Grand County today. Captured in Oregon, the wolves were evaluated by our veterinarians & biologists, fitted with GPS collars & transported to Colorado for their release.

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@herbivoryze

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Every wild animal should be monitored and receive veterinary care. It doesn’t matter that it’s not “natural”.

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@herbivoryze

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If you were the bird you would vote for predation abolition

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@localmusichoeee

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speechless. the pose. the expression. this should be a painting.

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@herbivoryze

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It’s evil to want to prevent sentient animals from being eaten? Gtfo

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“Nowhere do I treat predatory [non-human] animals as ‘bad guys’…but they do cause lethal and painful harms. So if there should turn out to be ways of avoiding those harms…we should contemplate trying them” - Martha C. Nussbaum

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@herbivoryze

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At the root of human violence and rights violations is the identification of yourself as part of a group to which you feel bonded, causing you to view those outside your group as less important. The primary root is speciesism. There is only one real group, that of sentient being.

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@herbivoryze

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The same applies to prey

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@herbivoryze

9 months

An example of intraguild predation. Even predators benefit from herbivorisation. Photo credit: svpho.tography

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@herbivoryze

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“…phasing out predators through genetic re-engineering appears to be more friendly to their terms of choice than killing them, even if the killing were done in a painless way. Genetic re-engineering would, therefore, be preferable.” - Eze Paez

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@herbivoryze

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There doesn’t seem to be any logical reason why ending suffering entails ending life. We could possibly have sentient life characterized by extreme happiness and no involuntary serious suffering. Even if impossible it’s a noble aim that will help us get closer to the ideal.

Amy Dickman 🦁 @amydickman.bsky.social

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@herbivorize @JonnyStuteley1 No, because the natural endpoint for your goal - elimination of suffering - is ultimately the elimination of life itself. Seems poorly judged to me.

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Yes we should! We should reduce and even eliminate predation among other causes of pain and shortened lifespan. Should We Try to Alleviate the Suffering of Wild Animals?

Should We Try to Alleviate the Suffering of Wild Animals?

Catia Faria challenges us to rethink our obligations to intervene in wild lives.

marcbekoff.com

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@herbivoryze

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Mainstream society accepts predation because it’s needed for many animals to survive and for the those species to persist. But what if we could make it unnecessary? Should we?

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@herbivoryze

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I think we should feel sad about animals suffering from predation, we should feel sorry that they go through that. We should care because their pain and lives matter to them like ours do to us. And then try to find solutions.

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@herbivoryze

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Once it’s done nobody would wish to return nature to its red tooth and claw state, except psychopaths.

David Pearce

@webmasterdave

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@ThatguyTyler16 @herbivorize Suppose we encounter an advanced civilisation that has replaced starvation and predation in their biosphere with cross-species fertility regulation and herbivorization. Would you urge a return to ancestral horrors? Or should all sentient beings flourish in peace?

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@herbivoryze

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Individuals matter morally. Biodiversity does too but for the sake of individuals, not the reverse.

Anthony Ricciardi

@EcoInvasions

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These articles are not meant to honestly question science, but are intended to promote an animal rights ideology that is threatened by ecoevolutionary theory- the body of knowledge that justifies protection of native biodiversity & co-evolved relationships

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No sentient being deserves to be a meal. If nature is unjust, redesign it with biotech.

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Most people seem to highly value consent. Do prey animals give consent to be killed?

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The technology to end predation and extreme suffering in nature might come about unintentionally from various industries like medical science. But we could also intentionally try to develop the technologies.

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If we value democracy we have a duty to herbivorize predators because most animals would vote to end predation and that is the least disruptive way.

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Sentient beings have the right to not be attacked by anyone or anything

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Empathetic humans psychologically suffer from our awareness that animals suffer from predation. Therefore we will herbivorize predators in part to reduce our own suffering.

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