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useless at this stuff. 2nd wave. No probs giving Trans people all the respect they need/want. Sex = immutable & matters.

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@fletcherkathy8
kathy fletcher
2 years
Hi, @warwickpride . I am a female, traditionally known as a woman. Since you have declared that “woman” no longer refers solely to females & that the word “female” = transphobic, is there any word by which the oppressed sex class to which I belong is allowed to refer to itself?
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@fletcherkathy8
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@MagsVisaggs Forced pregnancy & abortion. FGM. Child marriage. Period huts. Menstruation taboos. Childbirth taboos. Suttee. Honour killings. Female Infanticide. Anything that only happens to female bodies. We are also oppressed socially/legally because we have F bodies. Didn’t you know this?
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@fletcherkathy8
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@MatthewPHoh So you consider 50% of the world’s population to have no material existence? OK
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3 years
@xberniceeee @SussexUni Try arguing with her position, not actively inciting violence against her person. If you don’t know the difference, you really shouldn’t be at an institution of learning.
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@AlasdairMcIntyr @Fabien_UX @garykmrivers @andybudd @milkandmore Enlightened self-interest: who will find me lying on the floor, aged 90, having fallen downstairs, if not the milkman?
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@KodaScott1 @brunskellevans @amnesty I have read the letter several times @AmnestyUK . I cannot find any way to interpret it which does not call for the removal of political rights from females. Please clarify what you meant to say. Your response to complaints “there is no such thing as a female body” would appear1/3
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@wynnefox @talkRADIO Medically speaking, no. It becomes my business when you expose it in the presence of non consenting women & children.
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@ThomasWillett9 You seem not to understand the need for accurate data in policy making & safeguarding. The intent seems to be to pretend that M & F are identical & therefore there is no need for safeguarding measures. It also prevents proper research into criminality, benefitting only criminals.
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2 years
@nathan45485360 @billybragg @jk_rowling She is a woman. She has more reason to speak on women’s rights than any man does. We live the reality of women’s lives & will not be silenced by men.
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@HanWhiteoak @CarilynJohnson “Disabled”? You mean compared to a man. That says everything about your hatred of women. Women have F bodies & must have the sports that work for those bodies. You want all girls disabled by the side effects that come with PBs without the “benefits”of a male puberty.
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@neoaisac @hollypringle @ucl @stonewalluk @LGBTQ_STEMatUCL @UCLout @UCLEqualities @UCLLGBT @UCLcares But statistically accurate. No, not all men. How are we supposed to know which men? We can’t, so we exclude them all. Have done for as long as I can remember & all of a sudden we are expected to increase our risk X 49. Why so keen to enter female spaces?
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@trippingjupiter @jk_rowling Has it occurred to you that the reason there are no problems is because those women who cannot share intimate space with males, for whatever reason, are self-excluding? If there are no services solely for females, those who need female only care won’t turn to them.
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@KaysWing @eva_kurilova There isn’t anything else. You either have the sort of body that can get pregnant or the sort that can make somebody pregnant, regardless of whether everything works or you choose to use it. Sex is bodies: their needs, capabilities, diseases etc. Why so desperate to abolish it?
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2 years
No idea why @BootstrapCook has suddenly decided to attack @jk_rowling but I just want to say that I think both of them are wonderful. Both have fought adversity. Both devote time to working for the disadvantaged. They just define disadvantage differently. JK sees W, JM sees Trans
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@NicESpurling Not a fact. “Cis” is a word from an ideology that very, very few accept. We are told it means we embrace the appalling, misogynistic roles that a Patriarchal society inflicts on us. I can’t think of a bigger insult to women.
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@sciam Rubbish. Total & utter fabrication. Society has always known the difference. How would they know who to marry, who to rape, who to expose at birth? They may not have known the actual mechanism of how reproduction works but they knew there were two sexes: they had words for them.
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@CuencaMetcalfA @MagsVisaggs Have you ever read a word GC women have written or listened to a word GC women have said? It would appear not, unless your sole intent is to lie about them.
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@Tinkuwu @antidependancy2 Hormones would have made little difference to his body weight, musculature, limb length, reaction speed etc etc. FtM transsexuals gain strength, MtF lose very little. The fact that TW aren’t concerned about playing, only about playing *as women shows that this is about advantage.
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2 years
@alistersummit @sun_dyke She was harassed for her belief & you failed to acknowledge or respect her boundaries. Maybe you should report yourselves. Anne Lister, in life, was discriminated against for her sex. I’m surprised that you do not consider sex to be a personal characteristic worthy of protection.
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@FreelanceWebDev How dare you tell women they must accept indecent exposure & males watching them undress without complaint? What gives you the right to tell a disabled female she must accept a male cleaning her genitalia? Does it turn you on to make traumatised girls beg for same sex care?
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2 years
@LeahMur32466693 @AnnetteMckay15 Can you not understand that it is not only about predation? It is not about being TG. It is about W not wanting to be undressed & vulnerable in front of a male stranger. This was considered normal modesty for all W until a couple of years ago. Religion & trauma are also factors.
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3 years
@seangunn The opinion of every single woman is relevant. You do not appear to be one, JKR is.
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@KodaScott1 @brunskellevans @amnesty @AmnestyUK deny the need for research into women’s anatomy & physiology. If biologically female/male bodies do not exist, please explain why I suffer from medical conditions which are never experienced by men. Your claim seems designed to deny healthcare to those born female.
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@agotavera @hen10freeman @reallorraine What on earth makes you think she has a choice? When someone turns up, she can say “no” & be left without essential care. Is that a fair choice?
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@odd_eon @jk_rowling What’s gender got to do with anything? This is about sex, which is not now & never has been a “spectrum”.
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@TheBookOfJack Transphobic to recognise that half the human race is entitled to recognition as a discrete demographic? That says everything about your contempt for women.
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@ButchTurtle @laureningram Nobody is suggesting that they stop being trans inclusive, merely that there be 1 female only group as well as the mixed groups. Why is that too much to ask?
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@laureningram If you were a woman who had the specific (but quite common) trauma response which left you with an inability to cope with males in some/all situations, you may feel differently. Count yourself lucky that you don’t have that disabling condition. Why so much hatred in this thread?
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@jimwaterson @lukemcgee The human race is divided roughly 50:50 into two body types, whose anatomy & physiology differs. 1 body type oppresses the other body type, always has done. That oppression has inc’d of late, removing the some of the few concessions the oppr’d had won. Why do you define the 1/2
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@ButchTurtle @laureningram A trauma response is not a “feeling”.
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@AliceBoothLewis @Kzct10 @Ofstednews I decided to retire after an Ofsted inspector marked me down for not disciplining a student who did not join in group work. My explanation that it was her 1st lesson after having been sectioned following a suicide attempt was not accepted as an adequate reason.
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@mattyglesias Pretending this is an organic change when it is an oppressor group redefining an oppressed group (without their consent) & enforcing that redefinition with threats & violence is beyond disingenuous.
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@JustStop_Oil Privileged people wasting food! In what way have you aided the provision life, food or justice? How much damage have you done to your cause?
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@Onestepfromlost @CrunchAlias This was a march organised by & solely for same sex attracted women. The counter protestors were the violent men determined to stop women saying no. When lesbians were kicked out if Pride, you all said “why don’t they have their own pride?” This is what you do when they try.1/2
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@transmetalmum They aren’t being called out for inclusivity. They are being told that pushing beliefs on staff & customers isn’t appropriate. How many livelihoods have been destroyed because people who know that sex matters were fired, driven to breakdown or had businesses destroyed by TRAs?
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@FernyReyes2 @zackbeauchamp I’d say it was the way around. The USA doesn’t even have paid maternity leave as a matter of right. Women have so few rights in the US that they don’t have as much to lose.
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@PaulaCoyscot @laureningram They shouldn’t have boasted about their discriminatory policies then.
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@ThomasWillett9 Abusive? Has she been thumping elderly women? Launching racist glitter attacks? Screaming at babies? Oh, no, that’s what trans activists do. Let me know when you find anything comparable.
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2 years
@SinisterBulb @jk_rowling Hate? The only ones showing hate are those trying to prevent women speaking & trying to coerce lesbians to accept a p in their v. You clearly believe women should stay at home & shut up. Sounds like hatred of women to me.
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@ripx4nutmeg It’s the “donation” that upsets me. Unless there is 100% proof that this “milk” can cause no harm to the recipient, it must not happen. There can’t be proof as it would be unethical to give it to a baby to test.
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2 years
@MalesOfReddit I’m a woman. Never in my life have I had the experiences you are missing. Maybe that is because most women don’t. You want a man’s imaginary idea of what young women do, not the real thing.
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@lborouniversity @stonewalluk Are female students safe on your campus? Are there same sex facilities to allow them the human rights of privacy & dignity? Are safe and fair sports available to them? Do you allow women to meet together to discuss matters of interest only to females?
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@sineadgibney @businessposthq @sanzscript @_IHREC You clearly think that the women whose safety is at risk should have no say. As for fairness…
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@aoifemcl Trans activists directly attack 5 or 6 of human rights in the ECHR. Why do you not consider women to be human?
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@AKittyBitCrafty Women existing = transphobic? ‘Twas ever thus.
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2 years
@Kat_Says_Stuff @bindelj Bigoted? Wanting to protect women’s rights? Address your accusations of bigotry at those who claim W are sub-human, so inferior we can’t even be recognised as a distinct, oppressed group.
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@LaymansScience @GCraughwell What if a woman doesn’t feel safe undressing in full view of a penis-owning stranger? What if a rape survivor doesn’t feel safe/comfortable detailing her assault to a male? Why is only one “side” expected to make concessions & “be kind”?
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@PlaceSteph @jk_rowling The EA2010 provided protection for spaces & roles essential to women’s human rights. Look what has happened. Stonewall lied & said single sex spaces are illegal. Providers are threatened if they wish to provide space for women. Self ID will be more of the same, providers will 1/2
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4 years
@CarlaCvito1981 @twitone @eyre_ann But that list doesn’t include human beings. Would you encourage him to jump off a tall building because “birds, bees & flies can fly”?
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2 years
@EllePatten @JackieMaeTurner Can you link to the evidence for that? Does the skeleton that gives males an advantage in some sports somehow reconfigure itself?
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@BeccadT It seems that you also don’t want any women from minority religions. I’m old enough to remember when we campaigned for single sex facilities, even if only an hour or two a week, specifically to allow those women to participate in life outside the home. Now they’re being told no.
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2 years
@jimwaterson @lukemcgee fight back as “transphobia”? We fought for SS spaces before trans issues were even on our radar. This is nothing to do with trans people. We would be fighting just the same if our rights were being removed for any other reason or if any other group were denying our humanity.
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@ElizabethHaggis @joannaccherry @GreenJennyJones @PoliceScotland That would be desperately distressing to those women who were no longer pregnant as a result of male violence. They need care *as women* & no one else’s feelings matter at that time.
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@TakedownMRAs @ObjectUK @StandingforXX You’re terrified, aren’t you? You think if you let them speak, others may hear & realise you are the bigots. Demanding that women & girls undress in communal spaces with fully intact males is not the popular position you think it is. Nor is denying female care to rape victims.
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@_Lisa_Townsend @jk_rowling Isn’t their attitude both undignified & disrespectful to members of the protected category of sex?
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@johnsowle @stonewalluk I suspect it’s the old “undid babygro, removed hairslide” school of evidence.
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@AdamUpton20 @ZombieTron @billybragg @jk_rowling TW & most trans allies know absolutely nothing about the reality of being a woman yet you believe they should have more say on women’s lives than women do.
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@Urusai_naaa Other views? Can’t think of any. It has reinforced my belief that critical thinking, textual analysis & logical argument should be prioritised in education. Most TRAs seem incapable of all 3. There should also be an emphasis on debate & the tolerance of differing viewpoints.
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@jmhenderson092 @AnnieAtLarge But they both despise the female sex.
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3 years
@JFr4ser @thhamilton I was wondering why they are so opposed to women discussing domestic violence, murder, women worldwide, refugees etc? I doubt they can justify it.
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2 years
@minusplnp @bindelj I found a lie in every paragraph. I shall treat the rest with the disdain it deserves. Your claim that any woman wanting to protect her rights = transphobic proves that you consider women should have no rights.
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@KaliRobber @jk_rowling It wouldn’t. Women are affected by the recent demands of TRAs to abolish single sex spaces, deny women same sex intimate care & refuge after trauma, remove the data needed to prevent violence, deny our existence as a sex class. Why is it OK to dispute women’s rights/feelings?
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3 years
@jmcarth @john_boyne Which comments? Why? I get hurt by the trans activists saying I don’t exist and females are worthless. Those demanding medical schools stop teaching my biology, risking my health. Those saying my whole existence is to serve males.
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@andrew_b72 @jk_rowling There are cases of patients being labelled transphobic if they ask for a female carer or a female only ward.
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2 years
@bindelj I don’t know where this has come from but I gather one (or more) of a private security company employed for protection has Proud Boy links. In what way is that “cosying up to”? When things are weaponised against W , should we not check the facts before snatching at the bait?
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2 years
@JaxD50 @Shivandavis If you want us to understand you, you need to define your terms. ATM “transphobic” sounds like “I said jump & she didn’t ask how high”. What does the word mean to you?
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2 years
@francesbarber13 This guy needs reporting for CSA. His hard drive should be checked.
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3 years
@SlauHaus @EHRC For the whole of recorded history, virtually all women, everywhere, have been denied rights.The minute some women are granted rights, they are painted as the oppressors & demands are made to remove those rights. Should the EHRC ignore women’s rights?
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2 years
@CrispinBlunt @SurreyCouncil Why add heat to it? Your intervention claimed that traumatised women must be denied trauma led care. Other than demonstrating your contempt for women, how do you think this cooled the debate?
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2 years
@helenlewis @hstanley_ @The_Globe can you explain why you are adopting an attitude of total contempt towards the female sex. Why do your productions insist that any woman who was not barefoot & pregnant must have been trans or non-binary? Why your belief that women have no ability, no independence,1/2
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@KirstySNP That is why there is a quota. For females. Do you really think that any female will stand a chance against someone AMAB, regardless of gender? Look at what’s happened with reserved positions, AWS, awards, prizes, women’s officers etc. They are taken by transwomen or even P Bunce.
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@veryrealbatman @caitlinmoriah @VeraBea1 @Mocha_Soul @ShapiroTattoo @janeclarejones You can’t find any examples then? I don’t think I’ve ever hated anyone in my life & the few who’ve come close are not trans. I see you are no longer accusing me, but my “side”. In which case, can I assume you are in total agreement with people like Yaniv?
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2 years
@audraf637 Please say she has been fired. A charge of child abuse should follow.
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@AlbaVeeDub @mandystadt @KatKitten1 It won’t convince them. They just say that she should be denied any medical care until she has had therapy to remove the trauma. Billy Bragg says she should contact the ombudsman & that’ll make it alright. The callous unconcern is typical of trans activists.
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@FemNorthern @BroadWithABrain Why does the comfort & safety of W mean nothing compared to the comfort & safety of TW? @BristolCityNews
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@sally_hines @HJoyceGender Hi Sally, If the 10s of 1000s of detransitioners could have had better treatment, they may have avoided unnecessary transitions. If there were more research into safe transition, there may be fewer disastrous side effects. Why do you call this eugenics?
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@QuinnGem @HJoyceGender @Christi49034502 @SurvivorsnetBtn They wish to destroy everything women have ever built, so yes.
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@ThomasWillett9 @JaneQuaife You are telling us that we have no real existence, don’t inhabit female bodies, don’t have different anatomy & physiology. Your “woe is me…” is an implication that women are as strong as men & therefore never overpowered, just can’t be arsed to fight of rapists & murderers.
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@QuartsClock @_katya_long On the same basis, *only* people born female get to say what is misogyny. This whole protest is designed solely to prevent female voices being heard, to put an end to female healthcare, to enable abusive males, to remove female rights. It’s misogynistic as f*ck!
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@LukeTryl Trying to turn most people (women) into an abstract concept, rather than living breathing human beings entitled to rights, is at the heart of the toxicity.
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2 years
@Urusai_naaa I also don’t think I’ve “become” GC. I have been aware of the existence/immutability of sex for as long as I can remember. I have fought what are now called “gender norms” since childhood. I see them reintroduced & forced on children. I despair at W loss of rights I fought for.
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2 years
@PlaceSteph @jk_rowling be lied to, told that any man, at any time, can self ID as a woman. This is the endgame.
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@TheShyWoof @brandubh4 Raising children to believe that a sex change is possible, that a little boy can grow up to give birth, is a disgusting lie. What happens when they have the surgery, can no longer be a father & then discover they were lied to about giving birth. Only a sadist would support that.
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@DianaDee16 @millihill So? Does that remove the fact that anyone giving birth is a) pregnant & b) a woman?
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@RiseLikeLions_X Nobody attacks the rights of trans people to “simply exist”. We attack the “rights” of trans people to remove: single sex spaces; trauma informed care; the language women need to speak of their lives, obtain medical treatment & campaign politically; opportunities intended for W.
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@sally_hines Which gender rules were smashed? Man abused women for being inferior to men. Same old same old.
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3 years
@Raezasleep @jk_rowling She was misquoted. How is that not her business?
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@AtticumFloreat I used to belong to a single sex gym. For some young women, it was the *only* place they were allowed to visit unchaperoned. Why strip those women of the tiny bit of freedom they have? Other gyms/classes are available.
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2 years
@INEya_veganfood @DrPamSpurr Patriarchy invented gender. Trans is patriarchy writ large, just another way of oppressing women.
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@ContrarianQuinn Bookmarked for the next person who defends prostitution. Support prostitutes, attack prostitution.
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@Onestepfromlost @CrunchAlias I assume you supported Section 28 & are lobbying to get homosexuality recriminalised if this is what you do to people who are attracted to their own sex. Why can’t you just leave them alone & invent your own words instead of attacking their sexual orientation?
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@LolsysL @siobhan_HP22 I suspect the majority of the oppressed group “the female sex class” have never heard the word”cis”. I further suspect that the majority of those who have heard it reject it. I saw a survey indicating that most people didn’t recognise “cis” but have forgotten the details.
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@ToddVierling @BrydieLK Seriously? You are claiming that sex offenders have a right to be imprisoned with free access to more victims? Ffs!
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@di_brennan @SydneyLWatson Does anyone still publish dictionaries/rules of logic? Repeat after me: “only” does not mean the same as “all”. It’s one of the first logical fallacies I learnt.
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@neverfascism @chasestrangio The only bigots I have encountered in this debate are all trans activists. Refusal to acknowledge that other opinions exist = bigotry.
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@stevesnr50 @AliBushell What do you mean “where his pension had gone”? Food, council tax, water rates, insurance, phone, TV licence, household maintenance. How much do you think the pension is?
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@JayneEEgerton @bindelj What on earth is a 3 percenter? Why would any Brit know what it meant? If you lot didn’t send death threats & violently assault women, they wouldn’t need private security.
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