𧡠Once upon a time I was Mormon. For 42 years! I'm not anymore because it is "the philosophies of men, mingled with scripture." I left because the Jesus I knew & loved would be horrified at what the church has become. I was taught to have integrity, and when my values diverged /
Minimum wage is supposed to be a living wage. Just b/c you don't value the work people working those jobs, do doesn't mean they should be paid poverty wages.
If you think it's ridiculous that drive thru workers want $20/hr because EMTs only get $35/hr, why aren't you pissed the
EMT is underpaid, too? I want the people saving my life to be paid well. $35/hr is not enough for what they do.
Chances are whatever your job or profession, you're being underpaid and undercompensated, too. Instead of bagging on the little guy that just wants to live a decent
When concerned with the safety of women & children when it comes to what bodies can use what bathrooms, why aren't we talking about making all bathrooms safer for everyone? Instead of excluding trans folks from public bathrooms, why don't we have have unisex bathrooms?
life, why don't you direct that toward big business? Why don't you take it up with our government? If we come together, we can bring back the same benefits minimum wage had when it was first introduced. It will force higher paying jobs to be competitive again. Maybe we should
When I was hungry you told me to get a job.
When I needed housing you told me to get a job.
When I needed healthcare you told me to get a job.
When I needed clothing you told me to get a job.
What does it mean if I have a job and can't meet those needs? How many jobs am I
Dear Mormons, You see cleaning the church as an opportunity to serve the Lord. To save precious tithing dollars. The former custodians saw their jobs as a blessing from the Lord. Why would a church w/$150Billion take that blessing away, when those members needed that job?
When I was Mormon I was taught not to help beggars on the street. They were just going to use it for drugs & alcohol, so I should donate it to the church who knows better how to help them.
The church does not help them. They don't have any hospitals, rehab clinics, or shelters.
When I was Mormon, we tried on wedding dresses & made lists of qualities we wanted our future husband to have. I was 12-18 and groomed for motherhood when I should've been getting advice on college. Now I'm 47 w/3 successful adult children, no skills or degree, and an empty nest.
It is shocking to me how stingy people are when it comes to feeding low income families. No Netflix, no cell phones, no coffee, no videogames, no desserts or treats, no new anything. They police every dime poor families spend, as if they could've done better in the same
When I was Mormon, as a youth I was taught that if a boy had the courage to ask me to dance that I should accept to boost his confidence. But I don't think the boys were told to ask the wall flowers to dance so we would feel special, because nobody ever asked me to dance. I have
I don't care what Mormons today think about the cross as a symbol of spirituality. The point is, millions of us were given very specific reasons we do not wear a cross or hang them in our homes. I was even told that if Mormons were to have a symbol on a necklace it would be a
WTF IS THIS?!?! Mormons don't use the cross!!! I was taught that my whole life!! The cross is a symbol of his death. Mormons are big on saying "He lives!" so they concentrated on that.
I am the angry, bitter ExMormon your bishop warned you about, & I'm ok with it. I don't hate Mormons, I hate the corporation masquerading as a pseudo-christian church. I hate patriarchy. Sexism. Abuse. The hoarding of wealth. The political lobbying. The defacto theocracy in Utah.
Hey, isn't the
@Ch_JesusChrist
located in SLC? And don't they have $150 BN to help the poor, sick, needy, and widows? How does this happen then??? I thought they were building the kingdom of God here on earth, but I'm not sure God would be ok with letting folks freeze to death.
I cannot say this enough to the Mormon reply guys in my comments:
These are my experiences. This is what I was taught. I don't care what you were taught, what's taught now, or what you believe. I'm not talking about you. I didn't always believe what I was taught or heard, but
When I was Mormon I paid tithing. 10% of every penny I made from the time I was 12. There are promised blessings when you pay tithing. Something will fall into place. You'll get a better job. A giant tax return. Or in the case of my mom, a parking spot. Every time we got a close
THE
@Ch_JesusChrist
OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS HAS $150 BILLION DOLLARS, WHY ARE THEY CALLING ON MEMBERS TO FEED THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
$150 BILLION!!!!!!!
#mormon
#exmormon
Dear Mormons,
No one is saying the church doesn't help people with bills and food.
We're appalled at the hoops one must go through to get such help, and that the church doesn't do more to care for the "least of these" considering their obscene wealth.
Recall that the church
The day will come when it's your last Sunday at church. Some people don't know it until later, but I remember mine. When I was Mormon I got into a fight with the 2nd counselor over shirt colors to pass the sacrament. We both knew what the handbook said, but the bishop didn't care
When I was Mormon Boyd K Packer said that feminists, homosexuals, and intellectuals were the greatest threats to religion.
J. Reuben Clark once said "If we have the truth, it cannot be harmed by investigation. If we have not the truth, it ought to be harmed."
So then why are
When I was Mormon I was taught that Satan controls the water. That meant no swimming or beaches on Sundays because he would try to kill us. But only Sundays. Water was safe M-Sat. I was never told how/why Satan got this power, but if it only worked on Sunday, seems pretty weak.
When I was Mormon we never operated any soup kitchens despite each building coming with a full industrial kitchen. In fact, we weren't allowed to use the kitchens for ourselves. We can warm already cooked food, but no actual cooking. They say it's for insurance purposes (the
supposed to have to afford the necessities of life?
Man is that he might have joy. Where's the joy when you work minimum wage?
Big business & our own government keep minimum wage at poverty levels while they keep increasing prices & shrinking product sizes. Why do we let them?
If ExMormons don't talk to you about leaving the church, it's because you can't be trusted to listen without getting defensive or bearing testimony.
If you know ExMos that don't talk about it, they are, just not to you. You're not a safe person to share our pain with.
I see Mormons say they know exmos that donβt say anything about the church after leaving.
I donβt talk to my believing family about me leaving. They probably think Iβm a chill exmo who doesnβt bother them.
I use this account as a place to vent.
When I was Mormon, I was told not to donate money to beggars or other charitable causes. I should give it to the church because they could do more with it than buying drugs or alcohol.
The church has repeatedly told us it's not a charity. Homelessness and hunger are rampant. The
When I was Mormon I was taught that BYU was the Harvard of the West. This is a cultural thing and not doctrine, but this same sense of arrogance permeates Mormon culture. Since we were the one, true church, we had this attitude of superiority in everything we did. We knew how to
I think sometimes Mormons are confused about why Exmos have to flaunt their coffee & alcohol experiments, their tattoos & porn shoulders. They think we are bragging about our sins, but they don't understand that we're just celebrating being truly free to choose for the first time
Looks like Mr. Ballard passed away in the night. I hope his involvement with Tim Ballard and OUR won't get swept under the rug under the guise of not speaking ill of the dead. Yes, mourn and grieve. But his actions need to be explained and I would like to know why he was giving
Question for the Mormons. What do you think of your church having $150 billion in assets & instead of building shelters or healthcare clinics, they buy a $1/4 billion in commercial real estate? What does it mean to you that they keep building surplus temples instead of clinics?
I firmly believe that "taking the Lord's name in vain" means to do and say shitty things while claiming it's God's will. God is not a name, it's a title.
WTF IS THIS?!?! Mormons don't use the cross!!! I was taught that my whole life!! The cross is a symbol of his death. Mormons are big on saying "He lives!" so they concentrated on that.
Dear Mormons,
What happened to us ExMormons is real. We experienced it. I know you don't like it when ExMormons share their stories, but why? We're not lying or exaggerating, these things really happened to us. Who are you really upset with? That the church doesn't work how you
rock, as that is where Christ suffered for our sins.
We find it sus that it was taught with gusto to us, and now suddenly it's NBD? That's like when BYU finally got Coke. Because it "was never about the caffeine" YES IT WAS.
It's interesting that the Mormon church encourages its youth to get married so soon after high school because they don't want them to "get into trouble" with the Law of Chastity, but they expect LGBTQ folks to be celibate for life. π§
I wish the word socialism wasn't so stigmatized. If you think about how much social programs benefit all of us, not just the top, who wouldn't want them? If we all had healthcare, we'd be a happier, healthier country. If we had UBI we could improve the quality of life for every-
When I was Mormon I was taught that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon right off the golden plates. All of the church artwork depicted him looking at the plates behind a curtain while the scribe was on the other side. In 2003 the cartoon South Park had an episode called
two questions:
1. Why should anyone have to dance with someone they don't want to, regardless of the reason?
2. Why did leadership care about the boys egos, but not the girls?
Part and parcel of the Mormon YW experience.
The Mormon reply guys sure have had a field day putting me in my place. Why would I come unto Christ if that's how his disciples treat unbelievers? Does it not occur to them that their behavior is exactly what's wrong with the church today? That many leave & will never return
I was bigger and taller than anyone who could've lent me theirs. I was the only one without a dress, and thus didn't get the photo either. But yeah, the church is super inclusive. π
I didn't grow up in BumFuck, Arkansas, I grew up 20 minutes from church HQ in Salt Lake City. I knew people who worked for the church. My mom worked for the church. I had no reason to disbelieve anything the adults in my life taught me about the church and the gospel. Why do
Dear Mormons,
Can you imagine a world in which you are not allowed to talk about the church in front of your family and loved ones? One where you have knowledge that could help them, but you can't say anything? That's what it's like for ExMormons. You either won't listen at all
When I was Mormon I paid tithing to the church. It is a commandment and necessary to enter the temple. Once a year in December, we're corralled into the bishop's office to be called to account. Did we pay a full tithe? Are we right with the Lord?
The church has $150 BILLION that
When I was a Mormon YW we had an activity where we wore our mother's wedding dresses. I couldn't wear my mom's because she was an adult convert, not married in the temple. It had full coverage, but the sleeves were sheer. They didn't have an alternate dress for me either because
When I was Mormon I noticed a disparity in how the YW & YM budgets compared. The boys got much more because of the scouting program. I asked why the girls don't get to do cool things like the boys and was met with "the girls plan their activities!" which may be true, but do they
Good morning Mormons! I'm back with another question. If you don't pay your tithing, you can't go to the temple. If you don't go to the temple, no celestial kingdom for you! How is this different from having to pay to get into heaven?
There should be no clergy/penitent privilege when it comes to matters of the law. Clergy should be mandated reporters. Repentance should include turning yourself in. Being accountable for your crimes. If you know of abuse and do not report it, you are just as guilty as the abuser
An Arizona judge has dismissed a high-profile child sexual abuse lawsuit against the LDS Church, ruling that officials had no duty to report the abuse because the information was received during confession.
Friends, I am really struggling right now. If you're in a cheerful holiday mood, best pass on by and have a Merry Christmas.
I am going thru something w/one of my children, and I am at my wit's end. I don't want to give details, but if you could send good juju that we will
When I was Mormon and we went on a water activity, girls weren't allowed to wear bikinis but boys could go topless. They said it was a modesty issue, but I guess it's reality just a sign of who's mature enough to "let virtue garnish thy thoughts unceasingly" b/c apparently only
Utah has over $2 million in student lunch debt. Why? One of the wealthiest churches in the world provides most of the aid to the underserved, how hard would it be to add school lunch to that? They could give every student in the country for less than what they earn in interest
Your church has an entire law firm at it's beck and call.
It fights having to report sexual abuse by the thousands to the police.
It owns a $2BN luxury mall.
It owns luxury resorts and ranches.
It has nearly half a trillion in wealth.
Are you sure it's a church?
I love how me sharing my experiences in the Mormon cult is "petty" and makes me look bad.
Me. Look bad. Because of what I heard/learned at church.
That's not how that works, Mormons. Your church is the one that looks bad. I am not responsible for the version of Mormonism
pay down debt. We still make charitable contributions, we just do it as we're able to and can be much more generous than we could if we always paid a flat 10% to a corporation masquerading as a church.
I'm no longer Mormon, but I still have Mormon men mansplaining the cult to me. Patriarchy breeds a superiority complex & extreme arrogance in some men (a lot of men) in that church.
#exmormon
#exmo
When I was Mormon and my dad was alive, he used to take me on the father/son campouts because he didn't have a son (yet). He was a convert so they let him do it without causing a stink. I wish the church had parent/child activities without caring about gender roles. More kids
When I was Mormon I was taught that my husband would call me through the veil in the resurrection by my special temple name.
Recently I learned the temple name isn't all that special. It's from a list of names that everyone gets on a certain day of the month. That means that
Re: abuse and the Tabernacle Choir
My dear friend was married to a monster. He hit her so hard he popped a breast implant.
The church and the choir knew of his abuse, but he was allowed to remain a member in good standing in both the church and the choir.
But the church does
When I was Mormon I was taught that part of the repentance process was to apologize to the person I had harmed, and make things right if I can.
"It is not the policy of the church to seek apologies or give them"
@OaksDallinH
Why not?
When it comes to making my whole personality about being an ExMo, I have this to say: If someone lied to you all day every day about everything you thought you knew to be true for the first 40 years of your life, wouldn't you find it hard to "just get over"? Don't you think you'd
When I was Mormon I was taught to pay 10% of my income to the Lord (but really the church). I was not taught any other financial planning though. Nobody taught me to pay myself (savings) or save for my future (life insurance, retirement accts, etc.). Now I am 48, no education or
Membership in the
@Ch_JesusChrist
of Latter-day Saints requires you to overlook the utter failure of the church to protect their youth from sexual predators. It requires you to turn away from your conscience. It requires you to believe that hoarding $150BN is perfectly acceptable
When I was Mormon I was taught to avoid the very appearance of evil. This meant things like how we dressed, who we were with, what we were doing. What media we consumed, where we went, and who was there. When I was a tween my bestie & her dad took us out for dinner. I tried to
The negative responses to this have me wondering, WTH do you think our taxes are for? Don't you want them to be used to benefit our country? We have roads, libraries, schools... Why not healthcare, too? Why shouldn't we benefit from the money-saving & job killing tech that
Christians: It's not a sin to be gay. It's just a sin to act on it.
Me: So if you're gay and you go through life like heteros do (falling in love, starting a family), it's a sin.
Christians: Yes
Me: So then it's a sin to be gay. Part of being gay is falling in love & having a
When I was Mormon, I was taught that Brigham Young had instituted polygamy. Imagine my shock when I later found out that not only was it Joseph that instituted polygamy, he had 34-40 wives! Some as young as 14!! Mormons will try to tell you it wasn't sexual, that it was only for
Am married to a kindergarten teacher. Kindergarten is not woke. I promise.
Kindergarten is getting your ass to sit in your seat without touching your neighbor.
Kindergarten is learning what sounds the letters make.
Kindergarten is melting down because there's no naptime.
what I call "magic money" - a bigger tax return than expected, an inheritance, a side gig.
When we stopped paying tithing it was because the church is corrupt and we knew the magic money would show up regardless. And it has! We're not rich, but we're comfortable and are able to.
When I was Mormon and getting ready to be baptized (age 7) my bestie MaryAnn & I decided we needed to get all our swears out so we couldn't get in trouble after baptism. We didn't want to go to hell for it, so we took to swearing all the time when we hung out.
Well, that's it. I've lost my son. My youngest son just went from one cult to another, and I am never getting him back. I'm gonna go spend time crying right now. Goodnight.
I hate to break it to you Mormons, but I'm not lying when I share my stories of growing up in the church. You weren't there. You don't know. I'm not saying the Mormon church teaches these church-wide, I'm talking about MY PERSONAL lived experiences for the 40 yrs. I was a member.
I grew up without a dad. He died when I was 7. When I was Mormon we would sing "Families Can Be Together Forever". It reminded me that my dad was on the other side of the veil waiting for me. When I was a senior in HS I wrote a paper about a little girl who missed her dad, and
When I was Mormon I was taught that if I wore clothes that didn't cover the garment (cap sleeves and knee length panties) I was walking pornography. I was sinning and tempting others to sin if I showed my bare shoulders or legs above the knee cap.
You're telling me Mormon men
When I was Mormon I thought I knew how the world worked. I didn't need to think outside the box because the thinking had already been done for me. Mormonism had the answers to everything!
Until it didn't.
When I found out the whole thing was made up, I lost that security of
When I was Mormon I was taught that a wife and mother was my most important, most high calling. If I HAD to go to college, get a degree that would support my family if anything happened to Spouseman. Teaching. Nursing. Acceptable female careers. My wants and needs didn't matter,
When I was Mormon we couldn't have the missionaries over for dinner when I was a kid. My mom was a widow and with no priesthood in the home, it would have been inappropriate. It was only when my little brother turned 12 & was ordained a deacon that they were allowed at our house.
Trans women used to make me feel uncomfortable. I wasn't afraid of them, I just wasn't used to seeing masculine looking women. I didn't want to be a bigot though, so I started purposefully meeting them & getting to know them and my discomfort quickly disappeared. It broke down my
When we moved to Utah five years ago, we went as a family to general conference and there was a trans woman outside with a sign saying βHug a trans Mormon.β I gave her a hug and thatβs when the ice began to crack and my fear and prejudice began to slowly melt away. It changed me.
Once upon a time I was much smaller than I am now. I had a close friend who invited me to go with her family to Moab on one of those 4 day weekend holidays in Utah. I was so excited to go because everyone had been there but me, and I wanted to see what it was all about. We sat
The comments from believing members of the
@Ch_JesusChrist
of Latter-Day Saints on this post are a perfect example of "there's no hate like Christian love!"
Why can't they just be happy for him?
When I was Mormon, I was taught that even a little bit of sin ruined whatever goodness there is in something. Like this roach ice cream.
The church was really great until I found the roach. Then it was ruined for me.
When I was Mormon I was really ableist. I didn't know I was, but there you have it. I believed my elders when they taught me that mentally disabled people were extra valiant spirits sent to earth and hidden from Satan by their disabilities.
I see how condescending and demeaning
The amount of men dressing as women to assault you in the ladies room will be the same as after passing this bill. It will not stop bad people from doing bad things, but it will put trans folks in the path of danger and even death. Is that really what you want?
The criminal adult trans bathroom ban has passed the Utah house 52-17.
This is a terrifying day for trans people in Utah and anyone who has to travel through it.
It now goes to the Senate.
spot to the entrance, "tithing park!" would joyfully escape her lips.
As an adult something I noticed was these blessings always coincided with things that would've happened anyway.
We were low income for a long time. In debt. Behind on bills. But we'd always be rescued with
When I was Mormon I made a covenant to wear sacred religious underwear for the rest of my life. I went in with bikini panties & came out with granny boxers & a t-shirt. These garments were supposed to keep me safe spiritually & physically (if the stories are to be believed) but
My opinion doesn't matter, but as a former Mormon I am generally happy for them when progress is made to include more of God's children. What I don't like is being lied to & gaslit by current members who weren't even alive 40 yrs ago try to say it was never taught, or that it was
A trans woman is a woman. If you're not down w/that, we can have a conversation or we can part ways. I'm hoping for the conversation, b/c trans women's lives depend on it. I'm not looking for a fight, I'm looking for an exchange to create understanding.
#TransWomenAreWomen
When I was Mormon, in Utah, girls who were about to get married would go to the gynie to get a premarital exam. This is where they check your undercarriage to see if you need to be "stretched to fit" with dilators (sterile dildos) for your wedding night. It's because Mormon women
Why does the church have at least $150 billion dollars? What's it for? Why did you fire all the janitors? Why are seminary teachers unpaid? Why are the top women leaders unpaid? If the apostles are so rich, why do they need a stipend?
Where are the answers to these questions in