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Data over Mythology. MJ’s 6-0 is a post-age 28 metric, when favored. Lebron is undefeated in Finals post-28, when favored. GOATs don’t reward scorekeepers…EVER.

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MICHAEL JORDAN: WHEN DID HE BECOME THE GOAT? 🧵 MJ fans love to say you have to win 6 titles to be the GOAT. It’s a bad argument, for obvious reasons, and it’s NEVER been the criteria before. What’s funny is MJ started getting referred to as the “GOAT” in…1989. Want proof?
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@TAizenberg These guys think 2024 Sudan, with NBA players and coached by an NBA assistant looking for a head coaching gig in the NBA, is the same thing as 1992 Angola.
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@CantStopDaRayne You had a 73 win team and then actively recruited the 3rd best player in the league. 🤦‍♂️
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Lebron put up a 26.9 GameScore in the Denver series. We can clearly see he’s compromised. Here’s how that compares to Jordan’s Finals: 1993: 29.6 1991: 29.4 Lebron 2023: 26.9 1992: 25.8 1997: 23.4 1998: 21.4 1996: 18.5 Jordan averaged 24.5. If Lebron is bad…what’s Jordan?
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@Jacobtheclipper Kobe blamed all his teammates, constantly. Didn’t even talk to key guys. Lebron stands in front of the press and takes arrows for teammates. Guess which one is real leadership…
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@Real7Talk Everyone in the world thought Dr J would destroy Kareem. Unless you fully understood their games. Similar to how Lebron would beat Jordan.
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How Lebron gets defended in the Olympics (doubled)… Versus how Jordan got defended (whatever THIS is). And the corresponding difference in results. What does your “eye test” tell you?
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@currypistonn And Lebron said in return: “I was wrong, my bad.” Think Jordan would do that? One’s a leader and a great teammate; one isn’t. 😂😂😂😂😂
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@_smarttakes_ His comp is terrible. It’s right there. “Michael Jordan is the GOAT simply because his competition was weakest.” Not a good look.
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Lebron James in OT in the postseason: 13-4 Michael Jordan in OT in the playoffs: 4-6 When entering the 4th quarter within one possession in the postseason (+/- 3 points): Lebron James: 50-17 (75%) Michael Jordan: 29-17 (63%) Average for Top 10 All Time, excluding Lebron: 60%
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@lefraud_exposed LeBron has twice the assists and the same PPG. There are no defensive stats here. Lebron had 188 stocks, Carmelo 138. Lebron’s DBPM was 1.7, Carmelo 0. Carmelo had a negative on/off, -0.8. Lebron had a 2.2 positive on/off. It’s actually pretty clearly Lebron.
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MJ AND HIS SCOREKEEPER 🧵 Michael Jordan won DPOY in 1988 with fishy defensive metrics at home, after a season where he was “ticked off” he didn’t get All Defense. Did he get scorekeeper help? 🤔 If so…who WAS that guy? And did MJ ever PAY that scorekeeper? (Hint: YES)
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@ProvideContext Here’s what Jordan did after Pippen’s miss, in the final 8 minutes, in a game they lost in OT: 1-4 1-2 from the line 3 pts 0 assists Mr “Feeling It” doesn’t look like he should be screaming at teammates. If it’s Lebron, this a CHOKE.
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@Ventasion2 “Slam Dunk Contest Winner” Says all you need to know…
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MJ: “I’D LOVE TO SEE LARRY BIRD AS A BULL” MJ would never “team up” with great players, right? He wanted to “BEAT the best, not join them.” So when the Celtics were looking at trading Bird in 1990…what did MJ say? “We’ll take him.” 😳 He even offered to take a pay cut. 1/5
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Also…Jordan gets credit because he “worked hard.” Here’s how hard Jordan was “working” in 1988. No weights, exercise or extra shooting. Eating McDonalds and golfing was his “work.” Do you all see the mythology yet?
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Look at some of the lying protection for Jordan. “He worked hard.” “Without any hard proof…” Getting more steaks than the opponents turnover count is…hard proof. “Given how far the NBA goes to protect the integrity of their statistics…” No. They did nothing then. 🤦‍♂️
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TWO OTHER THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT HABERSTROH’S ARTICLE. One, Haberstroh stopped short on this point, but Sam Smith made it known that Bob Rosenberg kept a scrapbook for Jordan all those years, and Jordan “rewarded him well” for it. Jordan was “rewarding” his scorekeeper. 😳 1/2
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LEBRON’S 2004 BRONZE🧵 The criticism of “LeBronze” for the 2004 Olympics is DUMB. D-U-M-B. 1) Lebron didn’t play. He played 3 MINUTES in the semifinal loss. 2) Overall, he shot 19-32, 65% TS% 3) Brown was criticized for NOT playing him. Stern even called Brown over it 1/4
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@NBAMemes He’s upset that his free throw routine was interrupted. Did you bother to see the stats that get posted later in the video?
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MICHAEL JORDAN’S EXCUSES STRING 🧵 One myth is MJ never made excuses. Except…he made excuses all the time. And some are ridiculous. This is a long string with 18 items (I took some out!), but these are amazing. If you want details on any, search @mythnix and MM/DD/YY.
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@ApexJones22 All this, and not a single ACTUAL credible claim. Sad. The projection in the last sentence is glorious. Giannis doesn’t threaten Magic, Kobe or Jordan fans because he’s not better than them. That’s it. That’s the difference.
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@georgemikan 6/6/4 in 10 minutes, guarding arguably the best player on the planet out of position, is “nowhere.” It’s how you know Lebron the GOAT.
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@TheGo4t6For6 OMg, the insecurity here…
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I count legitimately 8 times this would be a foul if it were MJ. One before Lebron gets the ball, and then one for each bump after. But nothing called, because it’s Lebron. You won’t find a much better example of the hurdle placed in front of Lebron to prove he’s the GOAT.
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Post work 💪 ( @overtime )
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MICHAEL JORDAN: STAT PADDING KING 🧵 MJ fans love to argue that Jordan didn’t care about stats, and that he didn’t stat pad. It’s a BIG lie. Nobody ever cared more about their stats. MJ was the Greatest Ever at Stat Padding. GOAT! Take a look. It’s a long one!
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@Jacobtheclipper You: “Kobe never made excuses.” Also You: “Kobe would blame his teammates to make them better.” That’s not an EXCUSE?
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@6Hogg6 “Rings Outside Disney World” says all you need to know about this graphic. 🤦‍♂️
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@DubMnE 1. Positionless basketball 2. 4 out style (Cleveland was right at the top of the league in the 3 point revolution) 3. Player empowerment: leaving bad situations 4. Player empowerment: Creating favorable contract structures 5. Revolutionized expectations of older players
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I’m so confused. I’ve been told repeatedly: 2014 Heat were great 2011 Heat were great 2014 Spurs were “old” 2011 Mavericks weren’t good (AND “old”) 2007 Cavs defense was incredible 2007 Spurs were “old” Have I been lied to? How could that BE?!?
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How many superteams did Lebron play on? I can barely find those teams on this chart in the utterly dominant section. If he played on superteams in the 2010s, I'm counting 20 superteams from the last 20 years, and 90% of them were non-Lebron-led teams.
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Some Lebron narratives blown up in the last month: “Players hate playing with Lebron” “He’s a bad leader” “He’s washed” “He’s not clutch” “Players don’t respect Lebron” “He couldn’t survive physical play” “He’s a bad defender” “The ball stops in his hands” How did these do?
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@VinoUncorked Psst…the Lebron fan base enjoys basketball. They enjoy Wemby. It’s not about their childhoods.
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@ItsAPooleParty_ Nothing to do with Steph. The league got smarter once they got the on court data in 2014.
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AWARDS AND ACCOLADES MICHAEL JORDAN SHOULDN’T HAVE WON 🧵 Since it’s now reported that Jordan was given fake stats to help win his DPOY award, let’s look at the awards he won. People show this graphic all the time. Here are the undeserved awards for MJ, chronologically.
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@LegionHoops @MarkG_Medina Wait, wait, wait. Kerr saw Jordan practice for 3+ years. How could he be “blown away” by Lebron’s practice habits? Surely they’re deeply inferior to Jordan’s. I mean, if you see “hardest working practice player” up close, how could you be “blown away” by an inferior fraud?
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@sixtwogq 😢 Kobe goes 0/1/1/0/0 in the second half of a game 7… Kobe fans: “do you remember the shitty 8/9/7 Lebron put up in an 82 pace game that wasn’t with the season on the line?” Sad.
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MJ: 35 points in a first half, goes 16-27 for 39 points in a win. Lebron: 31 points in H1, goes 15-25 for 40 points in a loss. One is the “shrug game,” which is apparently one of the greatest games ever. One is a loss that’s 100% Lebron’s “fault” and “deserving” of ridicule.
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@LeGOATBurner23 Really? Jordan sat out the last 8 games of 2002.
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The grade inflation on Jordan’s defense is just SO high. He’s SO overrated defensively. Can you imagine Klay and Steph running this guy through screens? He gives up on running through them ROUTINELY.
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3+ minutes of Mitch Richmond putting 'First Team All-Defense' Michael Jordan to work on a random Saturday night in 1998.
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@Jacobtheclipper Yeah, that’s taking arrows. You’re on here criticizing HIM. Not the team. This is leadership. Not…saying you have no excuses and then turning around and shitting on your teammates and refusing to speak to them.
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@NotThe12GAF Basketball is the only sport that fans don’t think got better after 40 years.
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@M4V3RlCKS When did Kobe go for 51 in a Finals game? This is literally the game you’re criticizing.
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Lebron’s impact on the 3 point shooting revolution is significantly underestimated. His teams were at the top in 3 point shooting just as much as the Warriors.
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Andre Igoudala gives Lebron and the Miami heat credit for revolutionizing Nba offense (🎥 @OldManAndThree )
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@BronWorld This is unfair to MJ. Had had to play punishing defenses and “bigger, stronger” players.
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WHY THE 90’S WERE THE WORST NBA ERA 🧵 If anyone says the 90s were a great era, ask them to go watch a full game without MJ. They won’t be able to do it. It’s nearly unwatchable. Here are 6 reasons it’s the worst era (inept offenses, old players, slow pace, no shooting, etc.).
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@cameron99614458 @lefraud_exposed The Cavs line up was close to the same as 03. 18 game improvement. Denver added Miller, Leonard, Boykins, and got a full season from Canby. It wasn’t only Carmelo. And they were better with him off the court.
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@Jacobtheclipper Lebron hater text book: 1) highlight every bad play Lebron ever makes 2) Blame it on “stat padding” 3) If a teammate has bad game, BLAME IT ON LEBRON 4) If Lebron has a great game, say nothing You get to watch your followers increase, while your real credibility goes to shit.
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@TRRealist23 Jordan was 2-4 in OT in the playoffs. Lebron 11-4. But, yeah, run with the “Jordan was the real winner in OTs”narrative.
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The Curry, Kobe and MJ fans arguing that their guys would’ve “never missed” last night is funny. In these situations: Playoffs 3PA To take the lead With 20 sec or less In the 4th / OT Not ONE has hit a shot with data available. Curry, Kobe: 0-4 MJ: 0-2 Different expectations.
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MJ’S 83 & 84 COLLEGE SEASONS STRING Any chance you noticed The Last Dance skipped 1983 and 84? It’s because MJ failed as a leader in college, with possibly the greatest lineup ever. Historic collapses. Let’s look at MJ at ages 20-21, ages Lebron gets criticized at daily.
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@ProvideContext “You can still hate Lebron, but don’t extend it to Bronny now.”
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Bob Ryan said he gave MJ a DPOY vote as a consolation for not voting him MVP. Here’s Ryan’s article. He says steals don’t mean you’re a good defensive player THEN vote based on…STEALS And only says MJ is a “good defensive player.” It’s a mess. “I don’t know.” No kidding. 🤦‍♂️
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Lebron James vs Puerto Rico: 10 pts 4-6 (67%) 7 rebounds 8 assists Only needed to play 18 minutes to win Michael Jordan vs Puerto Rico: 4 points 1-11 (9%) 1 rebound 4 assists Couldn’t outscore “the college guy” Needed to play 22 minutes to win 😳
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@TylerRake62479 @TAizenberg I don’t know what kind of gymnastics you’re playing, but all I keep hearing is the Dream Team would wipe the floor with anybody they played. Yet, here they are, losing to college kids with no NBA experience. Lebron would never.
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Lebron must be the GOAT. His elbow wasn’t hurt in 2010 His hand was fine in the 2018 Finals He wasn’t hurt in 2019 He wasn’t hurt in 2021 He faked his foot injury in 2023 No actual injuries. The man has played 65,700 minutes WITHOUT A SINGLE INJURY. He’s Superhuman. GOAT. 🐐
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@TheGo4t6For6 Yeah, it was an easier era. Thanks for proving it.
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At the end of 1999, the AP announced its greatest basketball players of the century. You would think MJ would be #1 in a blowout. Instead, it was close. How could that BE?!? Weren’t they alive then? Didn’t they “see” it? Wasn’t it obvious, like we’ve been told? 1/2
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HOW LEBRON WILL WIN THE GOAT DISCUSSION 🧵 1. Players he played with and against will retire 2. Everywhere they go, they’re going to be asked about Lebron. Like Jordan. 3. They’ll slowly realize their careers are be viewed through a LEBRON prism. Cont…
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THE KARL MALONE UTAH JAZZ WERE THE BIGGEST CHOKE ARTISTS EVER STRING This is long overdue. Malone and Stockton are celebrated by MJ fans as being great competition. They weren’t. They collapsed, every year, with a predictable offense in the playoffs. Let’s take a look, by year.
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I guess MJ can’t blame Horace Grant for Sam Smith revealing THIS? I’ve said it 1,000 times…MJ broke up the Bulls, because he was afraid he’d be exposed like he ultimately was with the Wizards. The “most competitive person ever” would’ve played without Phil and Scottie.
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As yall watched those shameful fans boo Krause’s widow because of the Infomercial called “The Last Dance”, here is the actual reality of what happened after 1998 season, as told by MJ historian and Bulls insider - Sam Smith. MJ NEVER denied any of this.
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@PhkYoLikes @TAizenberg They had a such a low bar then.
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Ready? Jordan’s excuse? A sore wisdom tooth! Mr “Never Made Excuses” is somehow STILL coming up with new ones. Have you EVER seen someone use this? This guy, man. 🤦‍♂️
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Anyone find it odd that MJ retired IMMEDIATELY after steroid testing was approved by the Player’s Union? The testing was agreed to on January 6, 1999. It introduced first-time testing for steroids in the NBA. Within a week, MJ retired. January 13, 1999. Coincidence? 🤔
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I saw that they replayed MJ’s 63 point game on the NBA TV a couple days back. Want to guess what that showing omitted? Jordan’s miss on a WIDE OPEN shot at the end of the first OT. They showed the last 6 minutes of the 4th. And everything but 10 seconds in the 1st OT. 🤔
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@strifeomg Here’s what happened in the final game in that 2007 tournament: Lebron: 31 pts in 26 minutes Kobe: 5 points in 22 minutes Seems like Lebron got the message. He was…22.
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@KenHeLive We didn’t play the GOAT.
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Wait, wait, wait. I was told Lebron “didn’t play defense” in 2020 and 2021? Did someone lie to me…again?
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LeBron's defensive numbers in 2020 and 2021 compared to every non-center who made an All-Defensive team those seasons:
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@nbarealist23 Imagine how bad the league was that a guy with a broken foot could still score 20 points, still be 3rd in TS% in the playoffs, play his second most minutes in the playoffs ever…and still lose to a 40 year old starting center? Also…couldn’t commit and prepare like Lebron.
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FAKE 90’S NARRATIVES EXPOSED 🧵 Sports Illustrated had an article in March 1997 about the Bulls Superteam and the rest of the NBA. This article was littered with commentary about how GREAT the league was, right? Nope. Did MJ fans not read this in 97? Some comments…
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I was told Jordan never threw temper tantrums…
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“Why is Bron always crying to the officials!”. Maybe he’s upset for literally betting the worst NBA whistle of all time as a reward for his 1 of 1 Greatness? Meanwhile MJ, when once in a blue an official decided to “stand up” to him.
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@BullsMuse_ It’s not crazy when you have the best #2 , the best #3 , the best #4 , the best coach…a team that could win 55-60 games without you. Meanwhile, opponents known for choking in games you weren’t even part of: Drexler Barkley Payton Stockton Malone
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For MJ fans asking “who else would’ve won DPOY in 1988?” Going into 88, MJ: Had NEVER made an All Defensive tm Had ONE vote for DPOY EVER If his defensive stats fell in 88 (road stats down), why would he even be on the radar? Much less the DEFAULT #1 ? It was the FAKE STATS.
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Everyone knows the 1988 Dunk contest was fixed, right? Jordan actually lost.
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36 years ago today, Michael Jordan won the 1988 NBA Dunk Contest in Chicago. Here's MJ, Dominique Wilkins, Clyde Drexler & Rick Barry explaining what really happened. "He did the same dunk twice, missed and still got a 50!"
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@AirJordans2323 @KingJames Lebron loses, carrying bad teams to Finals that shouldn’t be there: “That loser loses on the biggest stage, like the loser he is.” Jokic loses on the biggest stage in the world, carrying a team further than it should go: “wow, he’s so impressive. Best player in the world!” 🤦‍♂️
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The truth is FINALLY coming out! 1988 DPOY: The biggest home/away discrepancy in the award’s history (juiced stats) A voter officially saying “second tier awards” weren’t looked at carefully. A voter saying he gave 1988 DPOY as a consolation prize for not voting MJ MVP.
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@NBAGreatestM This AI has gone too far. Michael Jordan would never PASS with a title on the line. He would never be AFRAID to take shots in the clutch in the fourth quarter. His team would never be DOWN late in the 4th with no Scott or Worthy playing. Why shit on his legacy like this?
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#Otd , 4/28/87 MJ got eliminated by the Celtics. He was why they “crumbled” 9-30 🤢 Gave up a 7 pt lead in the 4th Went 0-6 in the 4th quarter Lost their THIRD straight game they had a lead or were tied in the 4th. His 13th STRAIGHT LOSS vs the Celtics. This is your GOAT?!?
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@brandinpodziem2 “It doesn’t matter you grew up as the child of an NBA player…you can make it all the way to being an NBA player!”
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@Shane00 No way Jordan survives the Lebron era. Too physical.
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With Lebron opting out and potentially taking a pay cut, it’s a good time for this reminder. When Jordan returned in 1995, he wanted both NBC and the NBA’s other teams to pay him to return.
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MICHAEL JORDAN’S ATHLETICISM MYTHS 🧵 He Could Jump 48 Inches! He Ran a 4.38! No. MJ fans constantly marvel at these two fake athletic feats. “So incredible!” Of course, MJ didn’t do anything close to these two things. It’s typical MJ exaggeration. Let’s take a closer look.
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@kingjesus17 @ShannonSharpe Sudan shot 42% from 3. On 33 shots. In the playoffs since the merger, teams have gone 132-34 shooting 42% from 3 on 33 shots. An 80% win rate. 4-1. The Dream Team never faced that.
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Did you know… Michael Jordan expected to “be consulted” prior to any roster “move” the Bulls made after 1988? His OWN words. Isn’t that the OPPOSITE of “he just played with whomever the Bulls had?”
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@TheGo4t6For6 The “clown” is anyone using these memes. Even Jordan knew his era was far better than the one before. We have the same thing today.
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@AirJordans2323 Explain why he took less 3s in 1991 after “learning” how to shoot them in 1990. Explain why when he shot the most 3s in the playoffs in 1997, he shot 19%. Both seem to be different from your narrative. Also explain how someone shooting 23+ times a game falls out of “rhythm.”
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@TylerEnnis The culture MJ fans created. 👍
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@LakersLead Yup. The Athletic did a study on passers. Lebron was the most accurate, AND the most varied by play type. The variety doesn’t show up the same on Magic’s tape. That’s the difference.
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@KILLIO_JALEN It didn’t. Bogut was down to 10 minutes a game. Each game was less. Never played a minute in a contested 4th quarter. The Warriors offense was horrific with Bogut in. -34 on the court with Lebron and Bogut on the court at the same time. Totally irrelevant.
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LARRY BIRD: CHOKE ARTIST 🧵 How many times have I seen people argue Bird was more “clutch” and “mentally stronger”than Lebron? So let’s look. Lebron is crucified the most for not being “clutch” prior to age 27 (to 2011). Here’s Larry Bird, up to age 26, through 1983. Ready?
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@johnrivers131 Jordan was 14 for 33. Here’s his shot chart that night. Holy hell! That’s bad!
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@Shane00 This is correct. And really obvious when you watch the old film from 25+ years ago. The defensive athleticism is worlds different.
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@NBACARTALK It’s funny how that only goes one way. Lebron didnt “bust” KD?
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Lebron at age 39, 7 Months: Olympic Flag Bearer. Voted in by athletes. Michael Jordan at age 39, 11 Months: Rejected by fans—not even voted to be an All Star starter. Times Voted as Flag Bearer at Olympics, Lebron: ONE Times Flag Bearer at Olympics, Jordan: ZERO Levels.
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@LeShendyJames More specifically: 91: Injured Lakers 92: Played a team known as “Dummies” who would’ve had Sabonis in today’s league 93: No Ceballos 96: McMillan hurt—impacted Payton guarding MJ 97/98: Old Jazz with the two biggest choke artists ever Not a single elite center. Bad.
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@KFCBarstool @AirJordans2323 If the stat padding was so unimportant, why was Jordan “rewarding” his scorekeeper? Why did JORDAN think it was important? You’ve gotta go work on your arguments.
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TWO OTHER THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT HABERSTROH’S ARTICLE. One, Haberstroh stopped short on this point, but Sam Smith made it known that Bob Rosenberg kept a scrapbook for Jordan all those years, and Jordan “rewarded him well” for it. Jordan was “rewarding” his scorekeeper. 😳 1/2
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Tell me…is there a SINGLE hand check here?
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Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf torching Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls (1996)
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@HoopMixOnly Um…this “move” was because Jordan was SO BAD at using his left hand, he didn’t even bother to try. He went right to right. This is about Jordan’s LACK of skill, not BECAUSE he had skill. The grade inflation is SO high.
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@Yeaderrr He wasn’t. Jordan played in the “Weak East.” MJ’s playoff opponents did worse against Western Conference playoff teams than Lebron’s playoff opponents did vs West playoff teams. You have a narrative created by Lebron haters.
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@HallMaryannhall @KFILE Wuhan, a city of 15 million people, was shut down on January 23. We knew about it. If not, why is a Trump mentioning it on 1/22? Fox News was telling you as late as last week it was just the flu, just the usual 1%. But, you know...Fox never lies, right?
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Lebron supposedly gets “disqualified” from GOAT consideration because of 2011, when he was 26 years old. Here’s what the all time greats had done as of the day they turned 27. They should all be disqualified too, right? Almost none had “led” their teams to titles at that age.
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@AuxGod_ @TwitterMoments This is how bad the NBA was then…THIS is considered unbelievable athletic talent. The grade inflation…
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@BricksCenter Listen, it’s hard to score when defenses gang up on you like this..l
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