Sexual abuse of a minor is not "an affair".
Clergy abuse of an adult is not "an affair".
Continuing in adultery is not "struggling with an affair".
You don't "struggle" with an adulterous relationship. You end it.
Adulterers didn't "struggle" to hurt their family.
#ihopkc
@reachjulieroys
@mistydedwards
IHOP has been a cesspool of adultery. It's disgusting. That wrecks families. These people have no business being church leaders. I'm glad it's been exposed. What a mess.
There are no "forerunners". That is a made up gnostic doctrine.
Forerunner is used once in Scripture and it refers to Jesus.
He did it all. We are cleaned, justified, sanctified. Children of God. Dearly loved.
Rest in that, weary and hurting IHOP-ers.
#ihopkc
Re: Misty, something I've observed from the abuse in my own life:
It takes a very cold heart to commit adultery. To utterly disregard someone's spouse and children.
Leading a double life requires a pathological level of lying. To God, self, and others.
#ihopkc
#mistyedwards
Today people are mourning and crying over yet another false teacher, Kris Vallotton.
ALL of them are FALSE TEACHERS who care NOTHING for sheep.
MorningStar
Bethel
IHOP
Hillsong
The Word of Faith crowd
They don't love you. Return to Jesus.
#ihopkc
This truly angers me. Adultery ripped my family to shreds and it remains so to this day. These leaders at IHOP all adulterating like it's a game. While worshipping God! Covering for and "restoring" each other. Shameful and disgusting. Thank you for reporting, Julie.
Worship ldrs Kevin Prosch &
@mistydedwards
confessed years-long affair that started b4 Prosch & his 2nd wife divorced, sources say
Edwards & Prosch denied affair, but TRR found corroboration, including texts, video & multiple witnesses 1/3
@reachjulieroys
@johnmacarthur
This man caused so much child abuse in my family. I have PTSD from the abuse my Dad inflicted following this misogynistic man. Proven by the body flashbacks I have just seeing this photo or hearing his voice. PTSD is real, Dr MacArthur, and God will hold you accountable.
This is somewhat hilarious. "We don't want to turn a blind eye". As the camera scans to show people who are literally closing their eyes. Begging God to show and speak when He already has. They aren't blind. They're refusing to look and going into a trance instead.
@nate_postlethwt
I am the scapegoat. I had to go no contact with my family. They still use me as the scapegoat even though I'm gone. They just keep blaming me as the reason for everything and I think they will do that until we all die. It's very painful.
People keep calling
#ihopkc
a cult. Those same people keep expecting IHOP, NAR and charismatic leaders to repent. Why? What cult has ever repented? What cult has ever been run by Christians who "didn't know better" and later repented? What cult was "started by God"?
@starcazm
Ihopkc is a disgusting place full of adultery. Pretending to worship the Lord while encouraging lust and adultery is blasphemous and no one should stay there. No one still there is innocent or duped anymore.
@BethCavete
@Samuel_Storms
@DrMichaelLBrown
@JustinPetersMin
Idk. I left the Justin Peters/John MacArthur world because it is equally as abusive and wrong about many things. Seems like both sides are wrong tbh. People leave one side because of the abuses and wind up in the abuses of the other side.
As a victim of severe abuse, this feels offensive. Elizabeth worked closely with a predator for 20 years and just recently realized he was bad. Tammy didn't realize she was a victim until Dec. It's insulting and more spiritual abuse to now act like experts.
@DarrenHibbs
I'm thinking the foundational model is wrong. The large gatherings, buildings, programs, curriculum, pastor as we know it, etc. Just all of it. It has little to do with living a normal life righteously.
@ihopkc
You don't have a blind eye. You have closed eyes. Literally. Open them. The Lord HAS lifted the fog. That isn't fog you're seeing. It's the back of your closed eyelids. God has graciously revealed a LOT. Open your closed ears instead of begging God to speak. He HAS spoken.
Honest question.
If Misty is a victim of MB's control, and her affair with KP was coerced, then why is Catherine Slezinger not also a victim of MB's control, and her affair with LB not also coerced?
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
#mistyedwards
"
#BSSM
allows students to pay for the privilege of working for
#BethelRedding
for free". Listening to a
@HeavenBentPod
podcast on Bethel. A student crying with wonder that she would be accepted to attend. Wow. That is quite a con job.
#ihopkc
@starcazm
Well, that settles the narcissist question. Delusions of grandeur. And settles the false teacher/prophet question. Moses is firmly established by God, testified by Jesus. And settles the antichrist spirit question. Jesus is the one greater than Moses. Unbelievable.
OMG. Watching The Vow. The EM process in the NXIVM ESP Intensive is EXACTLY the same as Theophostic, Sozo, and all other "inner healing". Guy on the show says "it f*cked with my head". YES. Whatever it is, it seriously messes up your head. It's EVIL and dangerous.
#ihopkc
#sozo
Honest question.
Jesus said that His sheep know His voice and would not follow the voice of another.
We all followed another voice. So, are we not His sheep? By His own words, we are not.
If we are His sheep, why would a good shepherd let a wolf rip His sheep apart?
#ihopkc
I stand by this statement, but leaving is often extremely dangerous. I believe Mike Bickle is very dangerous and I am begging God to safely extract Mike's victims from danger.
@allihopkcvtms
@LottieJean6
@FloridaWill73
The only way out of abuse is to leave ALL the way & come clean. This is a call to her to come out, come clean with her own part in it, out Mike, and stand against him. If you stay hooked into ANY part of it, they have you trapped. Tell your dirt first, like Steeno did.
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Mike Bickle's theology is not original to him. Nor is it biblical.
"Bridal Theology, also called Bridal Mysticism, can be traced back to the mystics in the Middle Ages."
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
Has anyone considered that the reason some leaders and former leaders haven't spoken might be because they are NOT anti abuse?
I won't be shocked if we find out they have their own victims.
Silence may be because they are predators too. Who else ignores victims?
#ihopkc
Most of us SA victims on here were not victimized by drag queens, but by people IN THE CHURCH. Or by those who were our biological fathers or "spiritual fathers". Nice deflection.
Warning this post may be offensive to the comfortable: The Lord is calling fathers to stand up for their daughters, that are being bulldozed back into the dark ages of oppression as men, disguised as women; steal their gold metals, infiltrated their bathrooms and locker rooms,
The church needs to stop treating unrepentant perpetrators like prodigals and stop believing their fake repentance. Unrepentant perps find solace in churches. And more victims. Where is the intense outrage? This is not forgiveness.
- Jon K Uhler
#ihopkc
#churchtoo
#mikebickle
I was raped by a homeless drug addict who had no money. I didn't make it up to get his money because he didn't have any. I personally know children who have been sexually molested and/or raped. They didn't make it up to get money. The thoughts in this post are dangerous.
@_bytheirfruit
@rachaelannsteel
@ihopkc
There is no such thing as sexual abuse. It is a made up term. It’s for those times when they want to get someone’s money, but they have no proof of anything. So they say they were sexually abused. If it were rape, there would be evidence, usually with assault there’s Evidence
Mike Bickle probably has a LOT more than 20 victims. I've never heard it discussed anywhere but in support groups of people who were married to this type of narcissist. We all have the same story in this regard.
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
@lillisb1
@starcazm
@ZionConsultTeam
@blaiseforet
@ChristinaForet
Sexually deviant narcissists have dozens, even hundreds, of victims/partners. One Mike's age probably has a ton. For those of us who were long-term partners/spouses of one, the evidence was on their phones/devices/online accounts/messages. My ex covertly sexted every few minutes.
Most of us speaking out against certain teachers and orgs are not trying to tear people down.
We are people that have been personally deeply damaged, our lives and relationships destroyed by these doctrines and people.
We want to spare our IHOP brothers & sisters ❤️
#ihopkc
Inner healing programs such as Sozo, Theophostic Prayer and many others are rooted in the horrors and lies of the occultist and New-Ager Agnes Sanford who sold it to ministers.
#ihopkc
#HarvestHomeMissouri
Why won't Mike, ELT, Volz, Fuller, or any of them repent? Same reason most criminals don't confess voluntarily. They like their sin and it profits them. They will continue as long as people give them business. Or until something forces them to stop.
#ihopkc
People keep calling
#ihopkc
a cult. Those same people keep expecting IHOP, NAR and charismatic leaders to repent. Why? What cult has ever repented? What cult has ever been run by Christians who "didn't know better" and later repented? What cult was "started by God"?
John Wimber started so much of the horrible fake healing stuff in the charismatic church with his "power evangelism". My spiritual abuser spouted Wimber's ideas constantly and is actively hurting many sick people. Evil.
#ihopkc
#vineyard
@juliepitts_
@THESTABLEMEN
IHOP fed the poor? Everyone says they couldn't even adequately feed their own interns/missionaries. The idea that the man himself was evil but his gift/ministry was good is not sound. That's what people said about Paul Cain and Bob Jones, and were proven wrong.
This is absolutely atrocious and unjust. IHOP exploited these kids! Please read this victim's story. IHOP has much to answer for. It was NOT only SA. All of these lives matter.
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
@juliepitts_
@bereal4once71
@CourtneySt89976
@THESTABLEMEN
I lived behind a shower curtain in the unfinished half of a basement next to the washer and dryer behind the water heater in order to afford an internship - the cost just to get there was so high. Then I was paid 60% less than what I had been promised when I joined media.
This to me just highlights the problem. He has a dream where God tells him he's wrong. No. God clearly says what's right and wrong in Scripture and through conscience. This man believes in a different god. These dreams and prophecies have damaged many. Apologize for that, please.
Most people are not aware of the level of sexual deviance narcissists engage in.
Read survivor stories on any support forum for spouses of narcissists. It's the only place people talk about this.
Most people are unable to believe this. I only can bc I lived with it.
#ihopkc
@SRClaridgeWrite
This reminds me a LOT of my narcissist ex. I thought he was gay too bc of the odd lack of intercourse. But it turned out he would have sex with anyone, which I found out was typical of narcissists. The lack of intercourse was a form of control. This is not widely known. 1/
@Akajohnssmith
@SRClaridgeWrite
And I agree that Susan is an amazing sister!! Tammy is so lucky. I'm so glad Susan has joined this battle. Such a strong clear voice for justice. She will not give up until justice is dealt.
We victims of horrendous abuse get told constantly we are unwilling to forgive as God forgave us. Yet nothing is said about the perpetrator's unwillingness to confess as God commands sinners to do. God forgave me when I confessed. I've done my part. My abusers have not
#churchtoo
This is evil. Treating a rape victim in this manner.
#HarvestHomeFarm
is a dangerous place. There are rapists on that farm and an active police case. This victim has been through hell and is incredibly brave. I will join her in drumming up offense. The farm harmed me also.
Here is Patricia King talking about getting on all fours and feeling like she turned into an ox. She wants us all to be "smeared with the oil of the Ox Anointing".
Do we really have to de-bunk these people one by one? They're ALL false prophets!
#ihopkc
@reachjulieroys
@kelleysteele
@sheilagregoire
This is so evil. Adultery ripped my family apart. It is a serious, horrible sin that men do not need to be given an excuse for. This degrades men into animals. The worst part is after she speaks he says "Jesus". NO. Stop using Jesus' name for filth. Thank you, Julie.
One victim I haven't seen mentioned in the
#ihopkc
conversation is God himself.
Idolatry is spiritual adultery. God's heart is broken when we cheat on him with false doctrines and prophets, while claiming Him
He feels the same anger and grief a betrayed spouse does 💔
Jer. 2-3
@Whistlepigstew
Article said both of her partners were married. And she lied to the congregation for years. These weren't just people living their own lives. They were actively teaching thousands of people that adultery is wrong and holding themselves up as examples.
Pedophiles stick together. The Bickle and Phillips families are tight and these relationships are silencing the victims of Rex Phillips. One of them was young like Tammy Woods. She is extremely brave and an amazing woman who needs to be heard.
#ihopkc
#rexphillips
#mikebickle
Here you go. These people would have you believe they aren’t all connected. Smh.
KC Star Article about Gina’s business (Rex’s daughter) with her BFF Lisa Bickle Stribling and right there is Richie Bickle (Mike Brown BFF) commenting for HOPE CITY to prop up Gina’s business.
Yes. Let's do it. If you have evidence, please come forward and help end this evil empire. Texts, emails, videos, whatever will expose this and end it for good. Each story and testimony and piece of evidence helps!
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
#bobhartley
@juliepitts_
@bereal4once71
@THESTABLEMEN
These stories were shut down by IHOP leaders. They covered up Misty's affairs, rape committed by staff members, and yes, people starving. You're only hearing now because those leaders are no longer in power.
@nate_postlethwt
Thank you!! I hate when people use that phrase because I know so many victims who have been hurt beyond belief and would never do it to someone else because they know what it feels like. Myself included.
I have an extremely severe case of PTSD and have been referred to many experts including the world renowned researcher Dr Bessel van der Kolk. John MacArthur's teaching caused most of it. He preaches abuse and hatred of women. My dad was his devoted follower.
#churchtoo
#jmac
Advocates - Please read and acknowledge this brave victim speaking out against Rex Phillips, who is a pedophile, a friend of Mike Bickle, and a financial supporter of IHOP. These are serious crimes, and these men need to be put in prison.
#rexphillips
#mikebickle
#ihopkc
Just so people know, L_Mow 777 is the daughter of Rex Phillips. This woman is an absolute bully. She is trying to distract and blameshift from the court docs about her dad and his underage sxual abuse. She is a Mike and Bickle family sympathizer 100%. I don’t know why
False doctrine (idolatry) and sexual immorality are almost always linked in both Old and New Testament.
Look at the doctrine. Don't be surprised at the immorality if the doctrine is false.
Or take the immorality as a sign and go look at the doctrines.
Return to Jesus.
#ihopkc
We don't have to be "great" or on a unique mission to be loved by God. We don't have to spend hours in a prayer room to bring Jesus back. The Gospel is about the greatness of God, not the greatness of me or you.
#ihopkc
#noprayermandate
We were ALL brainwashed. The Bible calls it having our minds blinded by Satan.
Once light is given, we have a CHOICE.
The apostles preached that God now commands all men everywhere to step out of ignorance and repent.
That is the gospel of grace extended to ALL sinners
#ihopkc
@judylthomas
I didn't go to IHOP, but my pastor in KC was mentored by Paul Cain and I heard these same dramatic stories about his mother. My pastor was very close friends with Cain, was "commissioned" by him, and there were similar stories about Paul Cain's date of death.
@HeavenBentPod
@TheYouNoWhos
@SieNoel
Thank you. I've been praying for the farm to be exposed and brought to justice for a long time. I hope that happens because it's a very dangerous place. Thank you for listening to those stories and bringing awareness.
@DarrenHibbs
Yet they continue to close their eyes and ears. They have no fear of God! Which to me means they do not know him, or else they would be afraid.
Very good documentary of "troubled teen" programs that target parents and employs extreme cult tactics. They had "Night Watch" and "Awakening", same names I've heard from
#ihopkc
This is how abuse is perpetuated. If it was nonconsensual and there's a witness, that's rape and should be reported. Witness scared for his own life, but not hers. Takes HER aside instead of Mike. Puts responsibility for reporting all on her. Now we blame Julie?! 🤮
@SRClaridgeWrite
@starcazm
I agree with this. I know some survivors and they are afraid to name names because of fear of retaliation. A friend of mine just named a name and she left all social media bc she can't handle it right now. It took everything she had to do what she did.
@ikpmflyn
@ihopkc
@JBoeglXrucianis
Unfortunately, I think the silence is your answer. Ignoring and silence has been the consistent response from this organization when abuse is reported. They do not care and they are not changing.
Julie Roys is my hero. JMac IS a "War on Children"! SO MUCH child abuse in my family due to this man's teachings! I'm currently fighting my family's abuse of a disabled, non-verbal, medically fragile child. My dad just wrote me a 4-page letter telling me to get right with God.
@ThomasNelson
@johnmacarthur
.
@johnmacarthur
claims that in "The War on Children," he'll expose the evil culture & teach parents how to "defend, protect, and joyfully raise your children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.” 3/3
The prosecution process is SO HARD on victims of SA. It's long, it triggers all the horror over and over, not just of the crime, but also childhood trauma. Many of us trying to help her survive the process. Nothing about this is easy.
#HarvestHomeMissouri
#ihopkc
Reposting in support of my friend who is a victim of this farm, as am I. She's having a rough time lately with flashbacks. I feel so bad for her. I have PTSD too, it is debilitating. I hope this place gets shut down.
#HarvestHomeMissouri
#rhondacalhoun
#mikebickle
#ihopkc
@candiceteets
@beblessedbrethr
I think pretty much the entire visible church is false tbh. None of it looks like Jesus. Church people scare me. Severe child abuse in my family from all of it. No thanks. Jesus is everywhere, in all aspects of life, not just in a building or with a specific group.
@SolarChildX1
I've read a lot over the last couple years about how music is intentionally used. Watched a testimony the other day by a guy who left Elevation church and he said the use of music and vocabulary was extremely planned and intentional. Messed up. IHOP took it to the next level. Lol
@allihopkcvtms
@LottieJean6
@FloridaWill73
The only way out of abuse is to leave ALL the way & come clean. This is a call to her to come out, come clean with her own part in it, out Mike, and stand against him. If you stay hooked into ANY part of it, they have you trapped. Tell your dirt first, like Steeno did.
@juliepitts_
@bereal4once71
@CourtneySt89976
@THESTABLEMEN
I had budgeted based on their word they gave me - they constantly broke their word. I ate moldy bell peppers I got from Manna4U, unsellable food that was otherwise destined to go in a dumpster. The stories are true, I lived it.
I empathize deeply with those under the control of a powerful narcissist. I hurt for Misty. But I'm angry on behalf of those she deceived and hurt. She has a chance here to repent and live. I hope she does.
Yeah. I've lived under the control of two psychopaths. First my mother, then my ex husband. It's a choice to leave abuse as an adult. It's painful, dangerous, and may cost everything. But it doesn't make you become an abuser. Many women leave only when they see others being hurt.
This confirms Rhonda Calhoun of "The Farm" is a liar. She boasts that Jesus revealed her God Encounters method and doctrines directly. She took it straight from Agnes Sanford. Even the Sheol teaching. Rhonda's disciple damaged me SEVERELY with this.
#ihopkc
#HarvestHomeMissouri
Inner healing programs such as Sozo, Theophostic Prayer and many others are rooted in the horrors and lies of the occultist and New-Ager Agnes Sanford who sold it to ministers.
#ihopkc
#HarvestHomeMissouri
@SRClaridgeWrite
What!!! He is utterly shameless and determined to keep on sinning with no remorse. He is racking up guilt by the minute. God will surely stop him, but it seems first He must show the world just how evil MB is so that no one who continues to follow him has any excuse. Despicable!
@realprophetguy
It is a truly awful story. I've been praying for justice, and what I consistently get from God and scripture is that he desires justice now. The stalling and excuses are not God. I feel like Jesus' sword is exposing and judging all of our hearts, and we need to truly fear God.
@bethkiraly_
This was helpful. I had not connected my journals as a tortured young Christian to spiritual abuse. Helpful because I'm trying to repair the terrifying image of God I was given by my abuser as a child.
@legallyblonde88
So many so-called ministries prey on the poor and on addicts. They are easy victims because they have little support and who would believe them. The Bickles and Rex are vile and evil and Hope City is just another predatory organization that uses Christianity as a front.
@ChristaBrown777
@RLStollar
Wow, I heard that term all the time growing up. I was also told I was "strong willed" and my will was harder to break so I got more discipline. I never thought of it as grooming. I was told God commanded this. Pretty sure my parents were taught this in their Sunday school class
Things that move God's heart:
- The pain of the injured
- The injustice that caused the pain
God's heart is for the oppressed.
Not for unrepentant perpetrators.
- Jon K Uhler
God's heart is for justice. The church has forgotten this and is soft on perps.
#ihopkc
#churchtoo
@Calebculver
Lots of people are groomed and abused and don't become abusers. What happened to her was wrong but she's also a grown woman. Usually leaving an abusive situation means losing everything. But it is a choice. I had to do that and it's devastating, but better than staying.
@lillisb1
@starcazm
@ZionConsultTeam
@blaiseforet
@ChristinaForet
They keep all old partners and add new ones constantly. They send out messages constantly and always have at least 3-4 main ones that they're triangulating, in addition to online hookup/sext apps, prostitutes, etc. He may have a ton of lower-risk, non-IHOP-related victims.
This is grooming. ALL of these false prophets do this. They groom you to EXPECT and therefore EXCUSE false prophecies.
How much INACCURACY is allowed?
Bob Jones: 35%
Rick Joyner: 70%
Mike Bickle: 80%
God: 0%
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
Here is Bill Johnson REQUIRING students of his Harry Potter school to give false prophecies.
They can't enter their 3rd year until they've given at least 3 false prophecies.
#ihopkc
@JBoeglXrucianis
I don't think they are going to willingly step down. Current leaders have proven they will not do any of those things. All the people would need to leave.
"Praying the imprecatory Psalms is the greatest therapy for survivors. This is the heart of God for the oppressed".
- Jon K Uhler, expert on psychopathy and sex offenders
God desires justice for survivors & repentance for perps. By holding perps accountable
#ihopkc
#churchtoo
This is a lot easier to understand if you consider that this is not a church and none of these people are Christians. They haven't done a single thing that Jesus or the Bible teaches. Thus, they are not a church. Just an abuse factory that makes money.
The 24/7 webstream is back. :)
While our prayer room in Kansas City has continued in nonstop prayer with worship, our live webstream has not been 24/7 for the last several weeks to take some time as a community to process all that has unfolded in the last several months. Sobered
@realprophetguy
I think all Mike's "relationships" were coercive. But people seem to "look down" on Catherine more than Misty. The LB affair doesn't seem coerced though. But who knows. Narcs like to steal/conquer/share the partners of those closest to them. It's all sick.
@abele_amy95291
@jessie_thinker
That is exactly what happened to me. The people weren't powerful/famous like MB, but same dynamics. I had to leave it all, even my parents/siblings/church. I have no support bc they're ALL in the cult & there's active child abuse. It's lonely and terrifying. Trusting God only. ⬇️
Abusers are great actors and very skilled at fake apologies. Don't fall for "well, it's a start. It's a step in the right direction". No. It's an attempt to get you to not leave them. If you accept it they will abuse even harder.
#ihopkc
#louengle
Correction on Blaise's statement that if victims take their statement to Boz and the KC Star it will get reported. Not true. Several victims have done that repeatedly and were refused.
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
It isn't just Mike Bickle who lied about prophecy and dreams and angels. ALL of these charlatans are pathological liars with outlandish claims. Like Heidi Baker claiming to raise the dead.
#mikebickle
#nar
#heidibaker
"It blows my mind." A decades-old prophecy promoted by embattled IHOPKC founder Mike Bickle that has been repeatedly recited by charismatic leaders to rally believers was based on information that isn’t true, The Star has learned.
@juliepitts_
@bereal4once71
@THESTABLEMEN
If they had made it public, would you have believed them? They are making it public right now and you say "I don't believe it". As for Misty and Kevin, the way they adulterated was evil and ungodly. The way they hid it and lied about it for years was evil and ungodly.
This diagram shows the relationships between the Bickle and Phillips families and friends. This is why some advocates are compromised and why Rex Phillips' victims are being shut down, threatened, and silenced.
#rexphillips
#mikebickle