My husband wants to go back to church… my response? “I’ll go only if I can remain invisible… no lunches w/ the pastor, no volunteering, no worship leading, no extra events.” My issue has never been with Jesus. The system of the church is warped & I am not doing on extra thing.
@texaspeep69
@JeffreeStar
Ummmm No, they should be held accountable and the mountain of issues being brought against them should encourage them to come out and address it, honestly and maturely. But he just subtweets and further acts like a high school mean girl. Its gross.
@TvoMonroy
@chrissyteigen
1. You don’t get to tell people how to grieve.
2. You don’t get to tell people how to grieve.
3. YOU DONT GET TO TELL PEOPLE HOW TO GRIEVE!
@RondySmith
@SJohnsdottire
This is a termination. It is the same procedure to remove a fetus who has died & an abortion. There is no difference. And there are laws in certain states that prevent a provider from performing a procedure after a certain date.
@RyanWaltersSupt
@JoeBiden
Oh. My. God. Do you ever do your job? Seriously, every time I turn around you are in your car talking about nonsense that isn’t even an issue in our state. What about teacher retention? What about school lunches? What about student retention? Things w/in your purview.
@TheSineBall
I mean, the internet is starting to slow down on covering this. He is the victim, he can talk about it as much as he feels he needs to. Also… this is his literal job. 🙄
@jessgarvin85
@GovStitt
@OKFFA
There was once a time I would have thought similarly. But even still being a Christian, it’s inappropriate for the Governor to say these things at a public school event. Would we say the same if it was any other religion outside of Christianity? No. Think about why?
I’m really sick of seeing ppl pretend to be the perfect advocate. The article is out there. The information is public. I get that you don’t like the tone but No one is going to do this perfectly. No one. Can we get back to what’s important? MB is a predator. IHOPKC is dangerous.
If you are transitioning out of IHOPKC, & don’t know where to start, I would be happy to help with a resume, cover letter or advising for schools. This is literally what I do for a living & I would be happy to give you support.
#ihopkc
I reported my incident to Boz. I knew he wouldn’t be able to do anything abt it. I wanted to add to the voices. I don’t want justice for me. I’m fine but maybe it’ll be something he can use & say “I received X amount of reports of sexual abuse claims… IHOPKC is not safe.”
@TFallguy
I don’t care about your opinion. I’ve done my part for 36 yrs. It’s a miracle that I’ve held onto my love for Jesus after some of the things I’ve experienced. I’m not giving one more ounce of free labor to any organization. I will be the hands & feet in my own community.
@krbaker13
Did you miss the part where I said Jesus & I are good? Why does the “work of the lord” need to be in the 4 walls of a church building? Who says I’m not serving my family & my community?
My heart is so broken for many, like Shiloah, in the Bickle family but also within the IHOPKC community. IHOPKC had a chance to break the bonds of wickedness & set captives free. They have actively & repeatedly chosen not to.
@GovStitt
I do not believe the majority of Oklahoma would agree with the degree to which you have banned abortion. It is wrong. Most Oklahomans are pro-life, sure. But not pro-birth only. You have created a dangerous environment for Oklahoma women.
@TheSineBall
Maybe you haven’t been paying attention. She manipulated him, used him for free labor, sent him inappropriate gifts (which she admitted to), had private inappropriate conversations w/ him & other children, & sent him nudes of other ppl. Then, she released her rabid fans after him
The fact that SO MANY Mike supporters have this idea that this “division” is hurting the WHOLE body of Christ. I don’t think IHOPPERS realize how small & insignificant this sect of Christianity is compared to the GLOBAL body of Christ.
@Cfluid06
@IssaB0ss
@Phil_Lewis_
Or.. how about these things take time & you are not entitled to immediate answers. The only people who are entitled to that are her family.
@RyanWaltersSupt
You mean this constitution? “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”
5 months ago, I thought Mike was the real deal. Were there things I didn’t like? Sure. But I still had respect for him. I’m realizing now, no matter how much we thought we knew our leaders… we never really knew them. Any of them.
#ihopkctoo
@RyanWaltersSupt
Once again… do you ever proof read?? Who reviews this before you send it out? For the love of God, you are the Superintendent of Public Instruction. 🙄
@PhilMatthews11
At no point did I say that I would prevent him from serving if he wants to do so. I know that he doesn’t but if he did, I’d support him. I know that I will not return to serving another person’s ministry. That door is closed.
You mean to tell me that Stuart Greaves read evidence from Doe, emails where Mike THREATENS TO END FINANCIAL SUPPORT & all, looked her husband in the face & condemned him for not following Matt 18?! And y’all still goin to batt for this organization?!
@lily_marston
Honestly, this felt very defensive & not at all authentic. I like u both but it felt as though u were explaining/defending urselves. A true apology simply takes accountability. We get u didn’t realize u were being manipulated. U didn’t need to take an hour to further explain.
@ChannonRose
Girl, no. I have watched you for a while, this is too fabricated. I saw the insta story from yesterday. There is no way that you "accidentally" made people think he was stalking you.
@justinC2013
@theadammcintyre
Her video today was NOT an apology. Had she released a statement like “I stand by my apology from 2020” that would have been way better than whatever todays video was… I would respond the exact same as Adam & others who are victims. Her behavior is disgusting.
@TheSineBall
Grooming is often not illegal but it is certainly a huge red flag & leads to traumatizing those who are affected. Grooming doesn’t have to lead to sexual assault. I don’t believe she is a pedo. I do believe she is a groomer.
Don’t let ppl tell you that you came to IHOPKC for the wrong reasons. You didn’t know what you didn’t know. Coming to KC at 19 was a time of incredible growth for me, both in independence & in Jesus. But it was also a violating & abusive experience. It took me years to see it.
@kvministries
So, what are your thoughts on predators currently in your congregation? Known predators that Bethel has been informed about on multiple occasions? Anything you’d like to share on that?
Dave… Please stop. It would have been better if you said nothing at all. Oct 24th was one of the most painful nights of his life & yet he says to WB in the recording that ppl were saying “you’ll laugh about it it’s so ridiculous” 🙄 I have yet to see on thing that’s laughable.
I’m tired. I’m tired of Christian elitism. I’m tired of religious abuse. I’m tired of the lack of accountability. I’m tired of false humility. I’m tired of Christian nationalism. I’m tired of “you were never a real Christian.” I’m tired of brushing things under the rug.
@mxoliverl
This is the same woman that told Trisha Paytas that JDE used the same ring for Pamela’s engagement ring just so she would blast him on the internet. She knew.
@RyanWaltersSupt
What is “woke ideology?” Can you define it? You had a chance to prove your statements today and you declined. Do your job or get out. It’s really that simple.
@Kdubtru
He basically said he would rather err on the side of love. God honors that. God is far more concerned with how we treat people than he is that clanging gong energy you got going on in this tweet.
@VampyricLuna
@kattenbarge
Try acting that way in any sort of professional atmosphere. I can promise you in any other venue (theater/TV etc) this would not be tolerated. I think the YT space is differ bc many are friends & colleagues. That makes things complicated
@GabbieHanna
The fact that u keep trying to “correct” minute details, claiming Jessi is deflecting is insane. WHEN YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS DEFLECTING! No one can have conversation w/ u. U deflect & intentionally confuse them just so you can talk over them & have the feeling that you’ve “won.”
I’m super burnt out from immersing myself in
#IHOPKC
world for the past 2 months. I won’t stop talking about it but we are not meant to carry something so heavy for so long…
I believe Jane Doe. While her story seems wildly different than the Mike I knew in 2009, the themes presented in her story are very in line with IHOPKC culture. These are consistent themes throughout this situation that have plagued
#ihopkc
for years.
This is me, when I was 14. The same age as Tammy Woods.
I had braces. I was in choir. I was hopelessly obsessed with *NSYNC. My biggest concern was getting ready for the next powwow that weekend & making sure I had good grades.
I stand with Tammy Woods.
#shewas14
#IHOPKCtoo
Is it just me or are IHOPKC stans starting to sound like FLDS folks… with the “one true church” following & defending their “prophet?” MB’s visions are starting to resemble Joseph Smith… Or have I just been watching one too many cult docs?
#ihopkc
#MikeBickle
Rita, you don’t know me. Your music pulled me out of the darkest moments of my life 5 yrs ago. This message? This was not it. This is spiritual bypassing. I am angry. At the time I wasted, thinking I was investing, at IHOPKC, that a man I trusted abused his power on children.
What is our immediate response to stories in church that shock us?
Do we shake our fists in anger and point fingers? Or do we fall into a position of surrender and plead with the Lord for His mercy and grace to help us get back on track?
#TheChurch
#IHOP
#Scandal
@g3minij0hn
You don’t have to forgive him simply bc he apologized but he is going to continue to live his life. I am genuinely asking & I know it will come off aggressive & I do not mean it this way but is your end goal to have him deplatformed? Or is it just that you want attention on this?
These pics are from TODAY (2/8/24) at the
@ihopkc
prayer room & coffee shop bookstore. This is at least 24 hours after
@ihopkc
knew Mike Bickle is credibly accused of sexually abusing a 14 year old. It appears IHOP in its current form is inseparable from Mike Bickle.
I want to add to the current scandalous allegations related to
#ihopkc
… there is no perfect victim. As angry as you might be that someone you looked up to & honored lived a “double life,” they are still a victim. If nothing else, they’re a victim of the system that is IHOPKC.
@Cfluid06
@IssaB0ss
@Phil_Lewis_
The report never said the investigation is over. They’re giving her family sometime. It’s been less than 12 hours. Get real here.
@GovStitt
I will call my legislators & tell them to stand up for tribe which you have historically attacked during your term as governor. 50/50 is not a good deal. You know that.
Sitting here watching Fundie Fridays vid on
#ihopkc
& find myself physically cringing over & over. The clips of the prayer room, old clips from The Call & Onething, The IHOPKC language. It’s like all of a sudden, I can hear the hypnosis. How I never heard it before is beyond me.
@BrumbackMike5
This only confirms the level of abuse & control MB had over her. Keep in mind these emails are before she realized it was abusive & after TWO DECADES of intense, inappropriate behavior. You’re proving our point, Mike.
@7MountainsInc
@bennettisaac
The people of IHOPKC may have things to repent of… but I would think the rending of hearts first needs to come from the platform before calling the community into repentance. The should be leading by example. Don’t ask them to do something the leadership hasn’t done themselves
You may have noticed that I’ve been relatively quiet on this account for a bit. There is a reason. I have decided that it’s time for me to remove myself from the ongoing narrative surrounded IHOPKC. It hasn’t been good for my heart or my mental health.
Attention
@ihopkc
& also, all Western Evangelical Churches:
This is how you handle Sexual Misconduct & Clergy Sexual Abuse. Immediate & swift action. You do not wait for more facts to come out, you find them. You do not wait to make a statement. You issue one asap.
This public announcement by Pursuit Church of a pastor fired for sexual misconduct is a masterclass in transparency, and unique as they rip him for his actions.
"On Friday, Jordan called the staff together and confessed his version of the sexual harassment that he engaged in.
@ihopkc
Seeing your responses to questions on Fbook before they were deleted was interesting. In one response you said something to the effect of "we mourned for several weeks" as if to suggest that you've done enough. But no real work has been communicated to anyone not on your payroll.
Todd… there are several accusations against MB. 2/4 of the women were MINORS. CHILDREN. He was their spiritual leader. It isn’t about sides. It’s about justice & righteousness. Also, you had this vision in Nov, huh? Funny how all the prophets come out w/ visions AFTER the fact.
Open vision over Kansas City! 😎🙏
I have not shared this publicly, but I was in prayer earlier today for Kansas City, as I know that there's a lot of demonic attacks and assignments to abort Gods purpose and I'm not taking sides on any current issue in IHOP. My post is for
@summer77123
@theadammcintyre
This is not putting conditions on anything. This is just a fact. She's had time to block people, delete tweets etc. Her family has done the same. She has time. Anything at this point is not genuine (at best) or her plotting legal action (at worst).
@krbaker13
I’m not good with his Bride… and I don’t think Jesus is either. Holding the Church accountable for their abuse is holding them to the expectation that Jesus desires a pure & spotless bride. I am talking about the building… the system of the western church. And it’s very ill.
@EvansVeris
I was raised in a pentecostal/charismatic tradition so it is vastly different than your experience. I have also been part of at least 4 church plants. Everyone gives everything all of the time.
@jacobrosecrants
I don’t see a circumstance where Stitt will move to impeach. Not if he thinks he will get his way with vouchers, not if it in powers the rhetoric that got both of them elected. The best we can hope for is that our checks & balances will keep him from doing the most radical things
@ihopkc
A law firms only obligation is to protect the interests of their client. They are not indepentent. They are not required to be impartial. This is not transparent. An organization with nothing to hide would not do this. I hope IHOPKC closes its doors. Staff members need to run.
@aprilajoyr
This is tmi but I remember struggling with this thought while pregnant with both of my children. I was so afraid I would damage them in someway… crazy bananas 🤦🏻♀️
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 LOUDER👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
There is nothing wrong w questioning your faith, esp as a result of trauma. There is nothing wrong w you. You weren’t faking it. You were faithful. This won’t be a popular take but if in the end, you choose to walk away, thats ok too. You are loved regardless
I just want to say that if you’re coming out of
@ihopkc
& you find yourself questioning your faith more broadly, that’s 100% ok.
I keep hearing people praising victims for not doubting Jesus, & I get it, but it’s unfortunate.
Your questions are valid, healthy, and courageous.
@RyanWaltersSupt
You are a government employee. If you’re not willing to also honor Passover, Ramadan etc. please do not share your personal religious beliefs and opinions… sincerely, other rational Christian’s. 🙄
Hey. It’s my birthday. 36. The growth in my 30s is immeasurable. I love me more than I ever have & I’m really proud of that. Here’s to more of that as I inch closer to middle age.
I'm talking w/ some friends that attended the silent protest today in the Global Prayer Room at IHOPKC. For those that are appalled that they would do such a thing to such a sacred place, let me tell you... They were seen & they were heard but more than that, they were respected.
*HAPPENING NOW AT
#IHOPKC
:
The Prayer Room is usually streamed LIVE, but it's a prerecorded feed as some former IHOPers stage a silent-protest. These bold-ones have worshipped here for years, but are speaking out against alleged sexual & spiritual abuse in their community.
@ThatCincyDude
Community is why my husband wants to attend. Mostly for our kids but also for himself. He works from home & stays w the kids most days. He doesn’t have com & struggles making friends bc hes on the spectrum. He understands its importance& wants to put himself out there.
@krbaker13
I will not participate in a system like that ever again. I will not step on another stage to lead worship. Not without repentance & reform. Your assumption is that I live in bitterness simply bc I have firm boundaries. That’s not my responsibility.
@g3minij0hn
Johnny isn’t sharing this because C did anything “wrong” necessarily. This is to show the hurt he experienced. It shows that he didn’t mean all that much to her. That is painful.
@krbaker13
I am not the entirety of the Church. So that measure cannot be applied to me. The Church has a systemic problem specifically the Western Church. Abuse, sexual abuse, clergy sexual abuse, exploitation, manipulation, financial abuse, spiritual abuse, neglect of members is rampant.
I was one of the more fortunate ones in my friend group. My parents paid my rent & utilities, I was responsible for spending money & groceries. It wasn’t much but I would buy them groceries or coffee. Bc of this, I was often reprimanded for being “materialistic” or “frivolous” 1/
For those who spent an extended amount of time, how many experienced financial hardship to the point of being unable to eat for extended periods? How many saw their relationship with immediate family damaged? How many experienced physical, emotional, or spiritual abuse?