Not tagging Vee, I'm a bit too crass and autistic to give anything related to mental health advice to someone in crisis, but it's been so sad to witness this. In the end, to my knowledge, this unfolded solely "because of" drawings no worse than Rebecca Sugar's Ed Edd n Eddy porn.
"difficult conversations" in fandom...
ok here's one, why do these conversations always revolve around policing content? Why not have some conversations on how fandom is being used as a replacement for religion in people's lives? How fandom is not a substitute for education?
I'm glad more people are responding to "we need more messy queer stories UwU" with "well you gotta be ready and willing to stand up for them then"
that's the hard part cuz ppl are cowards and would rather keep their heads down
Yeah I retweeted this but they have proship dni in bio LOL. Itโs almost like weโve been trying to tell you any ship on earth will become โโproshipโโ if it has enough haters
I'm not saying to dogpile this person or anything, but I'm just amazed by this "cw alcohol I did a really bad oopsy woopsy and I apowogize don't hate me uwu" way of confessing to RAPE
@NECHANiCVOX
OP and most of the comments are antis admitting that hate is core to their identity. That's pretty sad, get better interests and hobbies. Spread Love.
So Amzn boots 'controversial' sexy anime stuff, and a day or later they ban sex education stuff.
You might not think it's related, but I have noticed "sexual health for teens" being lumped in with "cp comics" in ter/f and reactionary boards. Stop falling for their moral panic..
Itโs wild to see a hentai/BL โblackmail sex assaultโ with an old timey camera.. better hold that boy stock-still in a humiliating pose for twenty seconds
I just "love" that morally motivated fandom harassment has gone on long enough that there are now puritan fandoms around books written by authors who were harassed off social media by puritan fandoms.
this person (LemomonLatte) who tried to cancel the name of Lolita Fashion (because "Lolita") turned out to be a weirdo with actual real kids, reset the clock
OMG new fanti argument unlocked.
The Bible claims to be the word of God which makes it a bit different from a problematic fanfic, I know both contain copious amounts of incest so it's hard to tell
So this is a take that is being spread around as woke gospel apparently, and i hate it but I respect it for its honesty: โyou must do the work to ensure art is ethicalโ FUUUCK NOOOO
The whole "icky women are into THIS" and "real gay men are into THIS" crap is so gender essentialist anyway WTF
These tumblr meme addled, aging kidults really drank the radfem water and thought they could 'take out the ter/f parts'
no man... that's water that had a turd in it
@DubiousCA
@WhereDidJennyGo
except that word's been cheapened to the point of parody by the group in the OP, who think slight age gaps count as Teh pedรธ
I've never been deep into the fanfic scene but the way fanti/fandom puriteen cliques have tried to claim "Dead Dove" as some sort of thing of their own is too weird. I can't even understand how they rationalize that.
@ConnieBonaros
@KinokuniyaAust
you won't save a single child, these books were hurting no one.
I hope Kinokuniyas in the US don't pull this, they will lose a lot of business from me and others
@creamburner4732
@cream7o7
lots of comments proving what 'proshippers' say is true, antis care more about cartoons than real people. I hope things get better for you OP
I know I'm late to this discourse but I'm just learning about "toxic boy moms" from a YT vid...
Guys, I think if you wanted to stop incest you shouldn't have been going after fanfic writers and hentai artists (this has been my 42069th post along these lines, sorry)
@m20711782
@UltraGarryCS
@s3tok41b4
@wheelsonthebvs
@lizcourserants
Have you even played animal crossing lmfao, all squirrels have the same model, theyโre just different colors.
If whether you get turned on by this or not depends on how it is colored youโre literally a freak like...๐ญ๐ญ๐
Since "hentai" made newspaper headlines it seems like a good time to remind people that "hentai" is another Japanese term bastardized by westerners. It means "perverted" and isn't used to refer to porn cartoons in japan unless they're extremely perverted by the author's admission
@aceintheknow
@mongolcore8891
Outside of fandom spaces q anon takes that prize with their โanyone who disagrees with us slightly worships Satan and diddles/eats kidsโ routine
had to delete the OP of my thread on Kyle Carrozza because I forgot to blank out PI, but I'm not done caring about this sorry
Kyle is friends and co-workers with abusers but didn't blackball them, esp. "AD." I do not buy that he was "uncomfied" by Zim art
Welcome Kyle Carrozza to Youmacon! The creator of the Cartoon Network show/multimedia thingee "Mighty Magiswords". Which ran for 50 digital shorts, 92 TV episodes, two apps, and an absurd number of micro shorts, vlogs, and other odds and ends.
@marysuewriter
I am begging you and others with โcloutโ to take this abusive โpuriteenโ behavior seriously. Yes most adults can take the abuse, but they dogpile mentally ill people and make them self harm, have anxiety attacks that send them to the hospital, one teenager even died recently. Pls
why does it seem like every gimmick account on this toilet of a site has to make a post against IoIi for clout and attention. Is it really worth it. Is there a discord where they all get together and swap IoIicon twitter accounts "just to cringe at them guys! I swearsies!"
because this is the last big social media to ALLOW R18 content at all. Tumblr and Facebook are safer for kids, but for some reason they're here and I don't like it either. I'm sorry, but you have to understand this is all adult content creators have left as far as 'social apps'!
I swear I'm so sick of the moral panic against weird porn and erotic expression, this is an important catharsis for people. Societies that legally ban porn like South Korea are even more sexist! Men's Rights guys do the cancelling over there. Banning porn would make things WORSE
once you master discohorse even your sexual crimes are soft bean mistakeys D::::
Meanwhile if you are an unapologetic problematic artist... no forgiveness for those fictional crimes. ๐คจ
If your contribution to fandom is telling creators to โchokeโ instead of being responsible enough to avoid the fictional content you donโt like maybe the problem is you
[warning: rage inducing] Flat out admitting they're holding women and minorities to a higher standard because "they're in our supposedly safe spaces" is just disgusting. None of us asked to be in your rabid puritan shame zone either.
A wise weeb friend posted this on their private, I trust that this is accurate knowing their high geek levels, Normies are spreading that ignorant furryโs anti-anime post around like itโs the hottest facebook fake news though ๐
Some of Another world of Midwich Elementary School in 1st Silent Hill which I designed and modeled in those days_In game models.
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very few people mention the history of doujin culture because it goes against both the western left and right's conception of anime as a reactionary right haven
@ChelleEhrhardt
doujin culture is both borne out of communist student protest movements and also inherently anticapitalist in nature (considering its mass circumventing of copyright law where barely anyone is making any real money) and barely anyone even mentions it, lol
ooof I had to see this so now you do too
"yes I am old enough to count as a 'fandom mom' (25) but at least I am a mom that knows her place <3"
um.... woke???
lrt: someone wrote an epic tweet thread calling out a single weeb fanfic because it has bad bdsm because "ppl will be influenced by it!!"
Uh the 50 shades books also had bad bdsm and made some lady a kerbillion dollars, and EVEN THEN there wasn't a huge outbreak of abusive D/S
I always think โno one really gets morally outraged about Simpson porn right? Itโs so obviously fake silly lines that barely look humanโ but terf island had to prove me wrong
Literally telling people that they โneed to do workโ when most people online make art for fun, as catharsis, etc. and I highly doubt theyโre telling this to letโs just say, edgelord smut creators. They want women and queer people to be unpaid schoolmarms again. Just fuck this lol
sometimes I approve of appropriating lingo that started in RW echo chambers (like 'based') but I hate 'degenerate' and I can't wait for that shit to die off. It literally means "not as racially pure as your ancestors," can people who pretend to oppose racism cut it out at least
A friend linked this article about how csem (actual child pรธrn) is exploding recently for some reason, and law enforcement is stretched extremely thin. Just think of that when you see antis @โing the FBI when theyโre harassing artists and shippers
Hokusai is canceled again, guys... the reply to this was "oh yeah that IS immoral!"
A life without tentacle erotica is not one I'd want to live.. I blocked everyone involved in THIS convo but I'm still sad to see them spread close minded attitudes to others, I watched it happen
baaahahaha antis going after j oliver's thing where he wants to donate a bunch of money to FOOD PANTRIES aaaa
antis getting so woke they want poor people to starve
If Iโm skeptical about artโs power to influence people, itโs because Devilman Crybaby had a super clear message about not bullying โweirdosโ yet was popular in the heyday of anime fandom purity bullying
dear ~minors~
the facts are there are many sick people that want to take advantage of your unsupervised-on-the-internet ass, but people minding their business making 'gross' fandom content aren't one of them.
We're also not your moms. Get over your misogynist mom/witch complex
"You must always only make ethical art" was the subtext of discourse for the last few years, but the fact that they're saying it flat out is actually hopeful in my eyes. This crap is peaking. People are forming social antibodies to the purity cult and they must bring out big guns
@DubiousCA
@WhereDidJennyGo
why the block?
It's absolutely true that the p-word gets used to bash age gaps between adult characters. You're not concerned at all about that I see..
โwomen over 25 are old hagsโ
โwomen under 25 are helpless toddlers that canโt make their own decisionsโ
man this is accurate for "woke anime kids"
they skipped the woke and went straight with ancient trad thinking tho
@marysuewriter
Please, please. Even if this one incident is fake (though there is no evidence for this besides feelings) there have been hundreds of even ruder and more misogynistic incidents I have personally witnessed. Itโs bordering on gaslighting to say otherwise at this point
For real if fandom cops are so concerned about child abuse, do something for charities that deal with the IRL stuff RIGHT NOW because I'm sure with quarantines the child abuse rate is going way up...
I doubt they will tho.. gotta get rid of the TOON boners
@01000101s
hey kai if you're reading this, it's ok to want nothing to do with either side, the people demanding you choose the 'anti' side are fanatics and you're better off without them
oh, the teen vogue writer who made the liking-villians-is-problematic article wrote a blog post calling Goncharov racist ๐ The meme bugs me too but I didn't imagine all the people perpetuating it as scheming racists mah god
real world: increasingly fashy christian cyberpunk dystopia by the minute
kids who fancy themselves the purest activists of online: dear god Sonic the Hedgehog is only 15 we gotta lock up these artists who have been minding their own business making erotica for decades
I even saw a SANTA CLAUS gimmick account do a "IoIi's are on my naughty list! ho ho ho!" post
.... dawg you probably have real kids following you. Why did you tell them about a genre of niche pornography
@uwutopiia
it's a long story, but to make it as short as I can somehow an anti found her private (locked account) nsfw artwork and they decided to frame her as Epstien in the Animation industry and got her fired which cut her off from health coverage.
Yep. The "moral art" argument took root in America where corporations were only too happy to teach ethics and morality to children in lieu of the underfunded school system.
@iwtvzine
1. Anne Rice was a proud fiction freak
2. She would have sued you for trying to make money with her characters
enjoy being haunted by her ghost, I guess
Money and success is the only thing that granted the author protection and even respect from the mob. You see a similar dynamic happening to 0mocat after 0mori's success.
For a bunch of so called capitalism-critics, they will only fall at your feet once your 'products' make $$$