i think there's unaddressed racism in how learning an asian language like japanese or korean bc you want to engage with that culture's art and fiction more authentically makes you a cringe nerd to some ppl but no one says the same abt learning russian or latin for the same reason
Look if you gonna learn Japanese for professional career and stuff that is fine
But dear god if you learn a whole ass new language to play untranslated visual novels then leave touching grass you need to touch all the trees in Amazon forest
anyway, tumblr's porn ban didnt just hurt artists & fannish communities. it also purged sfw queer blogs, resources for survivors of sexual assault & abuse, & sex ed resources
& those of us who were purged or had entire friendgroups purged didnt have a choice in leaving, anyway
im not going to tell kids what media they can and cant consume. i played m-rated games and watched r-rated movies too. and im not ur parent.
but there's something "hm." about kids playing a game explicitly labeled as adults only and then crying about adults being in its fandom
it's really clear that the issue antis have with (fictional portrayals of) sexual abuse is less the "abuse" part and more the "sexual" part
explaining why, to some of them, its fine to portray abuse as long as it's "only" physical and/or emotional
i think being salty that people have passions and challenge themselves for reasons other than serving capitalism is the real cringe behavior, but what do i know
ppl on twt make fun of facebook boomers for believing everything they read on the internet, then turn around and go "oh a 15 year old said a disabled person cut off their own leg for a fetish? and art is their only "evidence?" must be true! better chase them off the platform!"
being an anti in your 30s or older is so embarassing
i dont mean this in a "knit your taxes" way, i mean it in a "if youre 30+ in fandom, youve probably made engaging with stories in-depth your hobby for at least a decade, and you should have developed media literacy" way
These takes suck and 1000% Alice doesnโt deserve to be called a pedophile or misgendered for this.
But likeโฆ this is absolutely the audience she courted.
the conversation around "triggering art" is frustrating because "triggering art" is a nonsense phrase. literally anything can be triggering, not just your four least favorite darkship dynamics
"fiction affects reality" is like "food affects your body." it does, but that doesnt mean every single ridiculous theory about how is true.
a: coffee is poison and instantly kills you
b: thats unsupported and untrue
a: wow i cant believe you deny that food affects your body
the "dont sexualize nuns" wank is interesting bc its entirely about sexual portrayals of nuns in fiction and art but people on the anti-nunfucking side are relying on arguments that would only make sense if they were talking about specific real nuns being sexually harassed
"its okay to portray bad things as long as you do it tastefully" what if i told you that real life survivors of SA/CSA/abuse/etc dont find what happened to us "tasteful" and therefore an accurate account of/exploration of/parallel to our experiences will also very often not be
sex positivity includes destigmatizing sex to the point where it's no longer controversial to have open, honest discussions about consent, power dynamics, red flags, coercion, safer sex, and so on. educating people about the nuances of these things disempowers abusers.
(if your kneejerk response to this is "but thats because russian lit is Real Art but japanese visual novels arent" then i regret to inform you that is also racism)
"the internet is supposed to be a safe space" demonstrates a complete lack of understandng of what a safe space is or how we create one
on top of being useless and setting people for failure in the same way "the middle of times square is a safe space" would
i think the way social media encourages its users to treat people like brands is pretty objectifying
like acting like an adult interacting with nsfw on their own time, in their own space is violating the boundaries of random children who wanna Consume(tm) them like Content(tm)
im thinking back to the 90s sailor moon dub that turned michiru and haruka into cousins to erase them being lesbians, and imagining the galaxy brain shipwank that would have arose if it came out 25 years later
holy shit can you imagine going to a therapist, disclosing that youre a survivor of incest or something, and the therapist is like "okay our first step is to help you learn that incest is bad, because clearly you dont understand that."
i swear antis hate survivors so much
so, theres a post floating around where someone minding their own business tweeted a short rant about ship tagging etiquette in jp spaces, and got dogpiled by literal thousands of (mostly young, mostly non-jp) people eviscerating them for caring at all and generally being racist
not qrting but i think part of maturing is learning that other people are going to approach the same piece of art with different lenses from you, and that there's value in that subjectivity. a shared piece of art is a prism that reflects a whole rainbow of different reactions
lrt
yea and thats why "why ship x/y when you can ship x/z, the wholesome and god-honoring alternative?" is so strange
yall pick your ships? i thought were were all out here getting fucking possessed by forces of rabid passion outside our control that turn us into werewolves
putting aside how cruel it is to steal and repost a queer artist's work in order to publicly mock/shame them when they havent even done anything wrong, this is a good encapsulation of one of the most obnoxious things about "representation" discourse to me.
Omegaverse is really funny because it's such a clear example of fandom misogyny to me. It's like they'd rather invent a second puberty so men can get pregnant than write a woman into a ship LMFAO
the contrast in how antishippers react when proshippers accidentally follow or interact with them vs when the reverse happens is really interesting to me
bc when an anti follows one of us its just "oh no. nope." followed by a soft or hard block. maybe a "haha must be lost" joke.
lrt
ngl the very loud and performative public handwringing and squirming over that monstersex tweet convinced me that sexuality really is the most subversive thing you can explore rn. nothing else horrifies / disgusts / outrages the mainstream so viscerally and deeply
@AITA_reddit
"i really want to have sex buuut i dont have any condoms so i guess i'll have to be pure and chaste until marriage. ๐" -- no teenager ever
just think its fascinating the way this crowd moral panics about things while not actually knowing what they are, sometimes openly admitting they dont know
whenever people debate if 18 year olds are "real" adults theyre always totally focused on sex and relationships and dont seem to care about, like, voting rights or the right to have your own bank account
god forbid people just create what they authentically want to and satisfies them to make, instead of ~establishing a firm target audience~ and ~marketing~ yourself to them as a recognizable and predictable brand, rather than just existing like a person
socmed is so dehumanizing
when someone says "be critical of the things you enjoy," they generally mean "make a performative public display of being critical of the things you enjoy, so that i, personally, can judge if youre doing it correctly or not"
not the main point here, and not to be a broken record, but: wild how "amputee sex" or a character being disabled is "creepy and condescending fetish content" in anti-whump tumblr person's eyes, when sex between nondisabled people is presumably "normal" and therefore fine
its a small thing, but whenever antishippers talk about fanstuff in terms of "deciding" or "choosing" what to be into, i always find it so telling
i passionately ship what my heart compels me to, you obligingly ship what you calculate you "ought" to. we are not the same
the obsession people who are afraid of sexuality have with gooning reminds me of when parents in the 90s would have huge urban legend moral panics over how teenagers are engaging in wild sex practices no one actually did like rainbow parties and color-coded sex bracelets
i saw a post on the tl that was something like "my tumblr for you page be like" and as i tapped on it i saw it was deleted. thankfully i downloaded the image because i just wanna say WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THIS ๐ญ
oh god the canon vs fanon thing got really obnoxious while i was gone and just turned in a way for the lamest people in human history to complain about sex existing huh
the "dark romance novels teach women and girls to desire abuse" wank is annoying but i Will say that tweeting abt how youre a good person who forsakes sinful art is easier than doing real abuse prevention work
thats probs why "book bad" is more popular than...things that help
honestly i dont go here at all but seeing people act scandalized and horrified over an extremely mundane drawing of a dick makes me feel like im on an alien planet
yall wouldnt have survived goatse. or meatspin, or 2 girls 1 cup, or lemonparty
Not Gonna QRT but
wow "shippers who claim not to self insert are lying because theyre not comfortable confronting their true emotions" sure is a thing someone said with their whole chest and thought we'd all agree with
this discourse is people conflating different two meanings of protect
by "protect children" they mean "youre not allowed to post adult things on your 18+ account" and when folk are like "no thats dumb" it becomes "oh so if a child was dying in front of you you'd just watch???"
im already kinda sick of the conversation around the ~unique dangers of the internet~ but one thing that baffles me - and im talking exclusively abt my own experiences here - is this apparently common belief that passing by adult content when ur under 18 is inherently trauma
the ideal ship dynamic is two people who are horrifically unhealthy together and bring out the worst in each other, but are so obssessive and codependent that ending the relationship would be traumatic in its own right
i dont have anything to add reasoning-wise that isnt already in the qrts/comments, but id like to add that pseudoanonymity was the norm in internet culture before corpos took over our space! the push to normalize revealing personal info online was to serve surveillance capitalism
a lot of ship wank is just linguistic disagreements
person a uses ship to mean "fictional romance i find engaging," person b used it to mean "fictional romance i find ideal and worth emulating"
when person a says "thing interesting," person b interprets it as "thing good"
ngl when i see the words "sexualize" or "fetishize" in a ranty comment i immediately drift away and stop caring abt what the person has to say lol
fetishization is a legit concept but people use it as a blanket term for "thing in writing that makes me feel the icky-wickys"
not to be a hater but i dont understand people who apparently love aspects of japanese pop culture (like anime or jp games) so much that their internet presence revolves around it, who are also completely incurious about jp language and culture
bugs bunny eating carrots furthered the idea rabbits eat mostly carrots because its true domestic rabbits enjoy carrots, and "bunnies eat veggies" as already well known
garfield eating lasanga hasnt furthered the idea that cats eat lasagna because it doesnt fit our prior notions
i think the sex-negative wank on this website reveals a really bleak and alienating incuriosity about other people, where instead of engaging with different lenses in good faith to understand they just assign people whatever motivation would be most upsetting
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if someone has proship dni in their bio and theyre not harassing people or supporting harassment campaigns, the grownup thing to do is block them and move on
youre not going to change their mind by knowingly transgressing their boundaries to argue
its also worth noting that going out of your way to create detailed, well-cited responses for someone who isnt actually engaging in good faith is largely a waste of time, and sometimes one theyre trying to bait you into on purpose to exhaust/demoralize you
both ppl struggling with real addiction and the professionals who work with them have made it clear that stigmatizing addiction and treating it as some kind of personal moral failure makes seeking help and recovering harder. labeling ppl "addicts" as a dunk furthers that stigma.
I really wish people would stop calling people โdegeneratesโ, โporn sickโ, and โaddictsโ. I find it to be incredibly reactionary in general and often times homophobic and ableist. There are better ways of addressing people who sexually objectify women.
honestly, can we not do this to english speakers either? these comments are a nightmare when youre neurodivergent and have trouble understanding ambiguous tone/intent
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A gentle reminder that if you love a Japanese artistโs work, please do not comment like, โDELETE THISโ or โI WANT TO DIEโ or โI HATE THIS,โ because they will take it literally. They do not speak English, and these kinds of messages are only understood by native English speakers.
last night i learned theres an alberts playhouse fandom, composed primarily of teens w/ "weirdos dni" in their bios, who make "albertsonas" and call albert their skrunky scrimblo, and argue with their peers abt how this fine because they dont "watch it for the problematic parts"
"suicide-baiting is good bc what if you use it on an abuser or a fascist?" is absurd because its not liable to work on those targets, but it /does/ create an unsafe environment for your friends and mutuals who are already struggling with suicidality as you further normalize it
gotta wonder if people who do the "basic dni criteria" thing know what a nightmare badly defined social rules that youre supposed to innately understand without any guidance or clarification are for some neurodivergent people
god, i just remembered
when a bunch of tags were getting shadowbanned, they shadowbanned the SUICIDE PREVENTION tag
thats extremely unfunny and indefensible! "this website is banning suicide prevention resources" is a very reasonable justification to walk out!
"i actively sought out incest content and i found it. now im traumatized."
its all very performative. as ive said, anger and shock fuel engagement more easily than happiness, and "look at this cringe" is a way to get notes that doesnt require u to be funny or insightful
lrt
my thing about "i hate people who cant 'consume' media without shipping" is
why do you assume that if people engage with media in the way that gives them the most gratification and personal value, it means theyre literally /incapable/ of doing anything else?
someone more articulate than me could say something here about how the culture of normalized oversharing on the internet has conditioned some people to believe the only reason anyone would want privacy or to keep their business to themself is if theyre hiding something "bad"
@ShamelessCritic
people are so intent on dunking on nerds that they dont stop to consider what it says about them as a person that they see a japanese media as inherently bad and embarrassing to be passionate about
im sympathetic to the position social platforms are in currently, with payment processors and legislators fighting very hard to destroy nsfw as a means to hurt queers and sex workers, who dont care what they destroy in the process
tumblrs recent statement about that wasnt awful
honestly its been fascinating watching in real time over several years how abusive dynamics started out as one of the forbidden topics in anti ideology, gradually dropped out of the spotlight, then eventually became something theyre fine with as long as its not too "obvious"
in the qrts, you can observe the most annoying thing about the monthly f/f discourse in the wild - himejoshi/himedanshi pretending that all f/f fans are lesbians and all m/m or m/f fans are nonlesbians oppressing said lesbians
I've seen a lot of f/f writers quit writing f/f because of how they were treated by fans. The same people would complain about the scarcity of f/f content and when you point out that it's because of their behavior why no one wants to write for them, they'll call you misogynists.
but what we're not going to do is make funny silly jokey jokes about how sexual assault survivors who left a site that silenced our ability to speak openly about our experiences, to find support and to protect others who are vulnerable to similar trauma, are in the wrong
@skyebatungbakal
the specific wording of "'said' they were a csa victim" as opposed to "was a csa victim" is telling. it seems like a pretty flat admission that they dont believe survivors unless we want to let them use us as weapons for their harassment campaigns
to me it speaks to a sterile view of what loving something is. is it to put it in a glass case and admire it from afar, never touching it? or is it to hold it close and get your fingerprints all over it?
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when people put "problematic" and similar things in their bios, its a content warning
"oh you think you look badass? cringe." nooo we think that people should have tools to avoid content that would upset them, instead of just tripping over it with no forewarning
lrt has fascinating qrts. the anti trend has evolved in so many divergent and hyperspecific ways that none of them even know what their own peers/allies are talking about, much less the extremely recent history of what these terms meant when they were made just a few years ago
interesting how the top ship in the screenshot is m/f but the qrts and replies that are on screenshot!op's side are mostly specifically focusing on there being "too much" m/m
(and "centering men" but that het ship contains the exact same amount of men and women. one each.)
lrt
people needing trauma art to include the "...but now im better" part is something that makes me pretty furious
see, people hate survivors
maybe not consciously, but they dont like people being around who make them think of things that feel icky or scary
this is a really basic privacy feature and its bleak that so many people in the comments are treating it like some kind of wild bizarre idea, and unironically claiming that if you have nothing to hide then you shouldnt care about your privacy
i wonder how much overlap there is in the venn digram of "ppl who say its wrong to create adult fanwork of kids' shows bc the fandom is a kids' space" and "ppl who say its wrong to create adult fanwork of m-rated games bc kids play them too, making the fandom a kids' space"
once every two months someone makes the most common sense, lukewarm "dont encourage ppl to kill themselves" tweet that blows up
its like swinging a baseball bat at a hornets nest for some reason. some people are rly, rly angry to learn some stranger doesnt think suicide is funny