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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
I wrote this to myself when I started on the buyside 11 years ago... Cheesy but I could stand to benefit from reinstituting some of these practices today!
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
ROIC purists -- what's the proper way to calculate the "invested capital" portion of the formula?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
6 years
so many nuggets of capital-intensity wisdom...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
What are some special sits that we're all looking at / own?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
4 years
what's the cheapest (ie low multiple) growth stock you know of? and what's earnings growth look like over the next few years?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
3 months
$VSTO still looks like the best special sit out there right now... $35/sh right now with $16/sh special div + 1 share of Revelyst (outdoor brands like CamelBak) Revelyst with net cash balance sheet and $130-160m EBITDA (<6x)... any cash >$250m to be returned to shareholders
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
8 months
What’s your best catalyst-driven idea that you think will play out in 6-9 months or less?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
Here's what Mauboussin has to say...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
9 months
Some gift ideas for the holidays… Potential quality companies at a discount: $MTZ $DAR $ATMU $SDZ $ATKR $PX $SXP.TO $SYZ.TO $GLXZ $MNRO Value/special sit ideas: $TLNE $VSTO $AAP $HRBR $MDU $SSNT $BW $BTU $CLMT $NICK $SYF $RILY $CMPD $VTRS
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
Favorite screens to run for new ideas? EV/sales <0.2x 5yr total return < S&P Yield >5-6% Balance sheet net debt to net cash Cash flow turning negative
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
7 years
revisiting an old CoBF thread on private businesses... such good advice from this post... my experience has been similar...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
7 months
@thesamparr Not a novel and maybe too finance-y... Red Notice by Bill Browder is super fascinating story about business dealings in Russia and some intense stories... reads more like action/thriller
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
Quick Value - Big Lots $BIG Stock went from $40 to $14 to $70 to $8 over the past 5 years Beaten up retailer with, perhaps, multi-bagger potential...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
8 months
$ATKR This week's Quick Value: Atkore International, a potential building products "compounder" Here are my notes...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
11 months
$KLG Another spin getting whacked out of the gate... down ~40% since spun from Kellogg... I have this one trading right around 5x EBITDA at $11/share. Results have been erratic and margins way below peers...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
Investment Research Process After finding a stock to dig into, I’ll go through most / all of these steps. Sometimes I’ll do a few of them and put the idea back on the shelf for a while only to pull it down again later. Here are some basic steps in the research process for me…
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 months
Next round of the watchlist
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
7 months
Third Ave uses this bucket approach to group their holdings I use something similar and find this a helpful way to group holdings
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
3 months
Next batch of stocks on the list…
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
What are the best small cap conglomerates out there? Baby $BRK ideas welcomed...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
3 years
one of the greatest CoBF calls I’ve ever seen... from $0.87 to $155... dude kept the thread alive by himself for 2+ years with no takers... $ENPH
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
3 years
Ultimate (deep) value investor interview question... Ever own a stock that went bankrupt?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
21 days
Lots of posts on recently... what are some early / undiscovered compounders right now?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
Has Buffett ever paid 20x EBITDA for a business? alternatively... What's the most expensive price paid for any business/equity by by Buffett or Berkshire?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
For new followers All (most) of my research notes are kept in a Notion database which is accessible (free for now since it's pretty haphazard) I write a weekly/monthly newsletter highlighting these stocks Both are linked in my bio
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
Revisiting a classic… Six Month Fix by Gary Sutton — practical guide on turnarounds Will add to this thread as I go…
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
Some of the best small business acquisition advice out there.
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
10 months
Piotroski F Score James Montier has long been a fan of this metric as a screen for declining (low F score) or improving (high) fundamentals. Does anyone regularly use this metric or specifically look for stocks with it?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
Working on another VIC application... maybe this one will get it done...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
It's annoying when you go to see what people are saying about a certain ticker only to find the ticker is also some random crypto garbage...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
Here's his commentary for those debating calculating via asset side or L+E side of balance sheet:
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
3 years
anyone have any good left for dead ideas? stock prices that have dwindled (not falling knife), no commentary on twitter in months, no Q&A on earnings calls, etc.
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
4 years
$MBI thesis in a nutshell...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
8 months
$CVEO 0.9x leverage 22% FCF yield Buying back stock Newly initiated dividend (4.5% yield)
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
4 months
$JACK talking up the newbuild IRR over buybacks with shares at ~8x earnings... hmm...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
11 months
It's been 4 years since I started writing Value Don't Lie and nearly 400 posts...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
This week's Quick Value -- Lee Enterprises $LEE Print-to-digital pivot in newspaper publishing... This was an @hkuppy idea from last fall (not sure if he's still involved)
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
4 years
$INTC fans... is this a reasonable take?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
I love a quirky spin-off... Oddball situations, crazy spin ratios, dramatically unrelated business, or even a 50/50 split are still some of my favorite places to look. Here were 2 interesting ones from a few years ago...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
6 months
Just to be clear: 1. I’m not the dumbest man alive 2. I’m not paid/affiliated with RILY 3. I’m not a disgrace 4. Referenced tweet was way before any of this Kahn stuff came to light 5. I’ve mostly just been covering the numbers / operating stats at the companies
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
4 months
Quick Value - Burberry Group $BURBY Luxury retailer down 54% over the past year... what's going on? 🧵
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
7 years
Roumell Q2 letter... worth a read...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
4 years
what’s everyone using to track notes on stocks? Evernote? OneNote? Word docs and excel files stuffed into folders on your desktop? Others??
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
My favorite investments are the ones that take only 30 minutes of review to realize it's a good one
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
4 months
@SecretCFO Could it be an insufferable / unmanageable CEO?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
I'd like to reverse merge my private business into a mid-liquidation public microcap... Is this feasible?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
8 months
A "top idea" 12x earnings / 8x EBITDA on FY24 estimates
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
This week's Quick Value: Darling Ingredients $DAR Here are my notes on this pretty unique company...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
4 months
$RILY Some notes from the 10-K...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
5 years
this is a $5bn company...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
What preferred stocks and baby bonds do we like here? My to-do list includes: $BW $RILY $FOSL $SACH
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
4 months
This’ll get zero engagement but here’s a link to the $BURBY write up
@valuedontlie
Colin King
4 months
Quick Value - Burberry Group $BURBY Luxury retailer down 54% over the past year... what's going on? 🧵
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
Continuing the ROIC thread(s)... here's a few approaches... My numerator (and thus ROIC) are all pre-tax figures
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
@disc_long Start a trading journal and begin tracking your decisions/actions... even if brief/imperfect notes on each decision
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
@marketplunger1 $VTRS + $TEVA - Generics makers trading at 3-4x FCF - Investor community little/no expectations - Bad balance sheets improved/improving by miles - Market stable, growth in sight, ROIC improving - Capital allocation turning from debt to buybacks
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
6 years
entrepreneurial profit = spin-offs
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
7 months
@StockJabber @AlderLaneEggs Separating it into 2 arguments -- 1) fundamental; 2) fraud/bad actor 1) fundamentals Not much discussion around the operating businesses (ex cap markets) but most of them seem to be doing well... wealth back to profit, appraisal doing extremely well, brands are fine, consumer
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
3 years
@jay_21_ ODP FTAI GSK LEN EXC BHC VGR BDX
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
Couple of thoughts on $RILY after reading the short report...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
Quick background on myself after 9 years on Twitter (X). I describe myself as "accountant turned investor turned business owner" - Today I own several operating businesses (personal HoldCo) and write about (and invest in) public equities. Here's my story...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
7 years
no luck w VIC membership so far... maybe next idea will be the one!
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 months
Quick Value - Kennametal $KMT Manufacturer of metal cutting tools (drill bits) used in E&C, heavy machinery, energy, industrial markets 🧵
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
3 years
Cheapest stocks in the Russell 1000...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
6 years
would love to hear more about how @morganhousel views investing his own money given the quality of his writing over time.. this statement rings of taleb's antifragile...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
I’ll start one just to make sure I don’t miss out… What’s your best idea for 2023?
@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
Excited to sift all the “best ideas for 2023” threads
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
6 months
@stephenolmon Almost as good as…
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
8 months
I don’t think buybacks can be considered a hard catalyst unless a) unexpected b) material % of market cap c) tender at a premium Agree/disagree?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
4 months
$SOLV should just sell their filtration business at 20x EBITDA and delever with it... whole business would re-rate overnight...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
RE: Microcap buybacks 1) Are buybacks your preferred capital allocation choice? 2) What microcaps ($1-5m EBITDA) have successfully used buybacks over a multi-year period of time?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
9 days
Anyone looking at this $DO $NE deal? DO holders get .2316 shares of NE + $5.65/sh cash Implies cap of ~$6.3bn PF with $6.5bn backlog, 1x net leverage, $100m yr 1 synergies
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
@ebitdaddy90 It’s really freaking hard to run and grow a business…
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
What are some stocks that look like "easy" doubles this year? No $WBD allowed!
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
9 months
@borrowed_ideas My business partner and I met after 30 and have been working together for about 6 years now in complete 50/50 form It’s possible; I’d argue that your hobbies and passions truly come out in your 30’s and if you’re pursuing it, then you’ll likely run into some interesting folks!
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
3 months
$AAN To be acquired at >$10/share... just wrote this one up a few weeks ago... maybe the RTO/value consumer is turning the corner?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
3 months
Quick Value -- The Aaron's Company $AAN Lease-to-own (LTO) retailer hitting new lows 🧵
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Colin King
1 year
Hear me out on P/S or EV/Sales… It can be useful to grab a starting universe of potentially mispriced companies… Simple rule of thumb — a 10% margin business at 1x sales = 10x multiple (of whatever earnings metric desired: EBIT, FCF, net income, etc) If a business has the
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
10 months
$RILY Posted some thoughts (available at valuedontlie .com)
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 months
@ToffCap Pharma — $VTRS $SDZ Retail — $DLTH Healthcare — $SOLV Energy — $CVEO $VTOL Gaming — $GLXZ Auto — $SUP $PHIN Will look through my list for others
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 month
Quick Value -- Jacobs Solutions $J Splitting into 2 companies: 1) Professional services to E&C (planning, design, architecture, etc.) 2) Spin/merge of Government services business (comp to $LDOS, $BAH, $CACI, etc.) 🧵
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
If I could look at only one thing when evaluating a new stock idea, it'd be the past 3-5 years of cash flow statement... Where did cash come from and where did it go? This reveals quite a few things...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
@anothercohen This sort of thing is similar to systems, process, and project management tools You need a dedicated “champion” in the company. Probably a full time hire. Someone that crosses into all functions/departments to stay on top of it and keep the whole company informed.
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
6 years
all that insider buying at $ETM for a disaster of a Q...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
Looking for a list of all stock/investment related blogs and substacks... Share yours with a brief description or tag someone else
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
3 months
Quick tip for reviewing 10-K -- You can quickly piece together ~8yrs of data pretty easily by looking at latest (2023) 10-K and going back to 2020 10-K and reviewing the Selected Financial Data 5yr table
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
6 years
how on earth does $ALSN have/maintain near 40% EBITDA margins making truck transmissions?? do any transportation equipment makers even come close to this number?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
5 years
what do you consider leveraging up hugely? currently in my 30s... borrowed 0.5x my net worth to acquire 2 small biz now mostly repaid... recently(ish) borrowed >1.5x net worth to do it again...
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Five Aces Capital
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Munger used lots of leverage in his early years. Wonder how many of these wealthy investors leveraged up hugely in their 20-30s to accumulate their initial capital.
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
So many substacks and letters with so many words... where are all the numbers?
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
8 years
how a microcap is born: a midcap declines 90%
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
17 days
Good writeup on $TPB by @Dan_Roller
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
The big flaw in sharing these Buffett/Munger comments about concentration is they overlook the frequency that they occur. Sure, there could be “several times” over your career to consider a 50-70% investment. That doesn’t mean you should own just 3-5 stocks at any given time
@compound248
Compound248 💰
2 years
“DIVERSIFICATION IS FOR THE KNOW-NOTHING INVESTOR.” - Charlie Munger Warren Buffett goes on to spit 🔥 at 2008 $BRK - Alpha Hunters, gird your loins: “You will see things where it would be a mistake… not to have HALF YOUR NET WORTH in it.” 1/x 🧵👇
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
5 years
Top positions... $HHC bill chen, $MMAC Kiel, Claris Corp? dan r, Italian cement for Keith Smith, $FTK from m sweeney, $nuv alluvial
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
5 months
Quick Value - Consensus Cloud Solutions $CCSI (full disclosure I bought some shares of this one) 🧵
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
8 months
$VTRS is selling assets at 25% of market cap closing in 1H24 with little impact to FCF I expect they’ll announce a very large buyback once that’s done.
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
Some stocks on my shortlist... $HII $LEE $MITK $BAX $DXT.TO $NICK
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
5 years
librarian knows me on a first name basis...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
6 years
Simple yet powerful business advice... delegate, monitor, measure, inform...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
$GTX Still no formal capital allocation plan... staying flexible - Increased buyback to $250m (from $200m) - Anticipate reaching leverage target (2x) by YE 2024 Leverage picture changed a ton from last Q and wild guesses post preferred transaction... Net debt $1.42bn EBITDA
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
2 years
A stock that I own is down 73% over the past 5 years...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
3 months
First insider purchases in years... hmm...
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
3 months
Quick Value - Denny's Corp $DENN Continuing down the restaurant rabbit hole 🧵
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@valuedontlie
Colin King
1 year
Everything I'm watching is rallying while everything I own is tanking... Lovely...
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