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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

1 year

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but DO NOT get an offial autism diagnosis simply for validation. Only get one if you need it, practically, like to claim disability allowance for example. An autism diagnosis can and WILL be used against you. It is a legal liability everywhere.

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@Nats_n_Cats @FunFactsLulu Yes, definitely doesn't apply to Americans only though! Anyone trying to emigrate can be blocked from entering countries both officially (like in New Zealand) and with more vague reasoning.

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1 year

The phrase "your trauma isn't your fault but healing is your responsibility" is shit, actually. As long as psychiatry and oppressive sanist ways are seen as the most legitimate way to heal, the implication is that the traumatised person must put themselves into a colonial box.

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3 years

@wafflekater @caesthoffe @ProudOwlCrafts They're joking, and mocking people who disagree with the thread

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3 years

❗To everyone who will watch Squid Game and has photosensitive epilepsy/any sensitivies to flashing lights: Episode 4 has a section where the lights turn on and off repetitively at around 16 mins until 21 mins.

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The Foggy System🌫️

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2 years

Sooo hi fellow plurals. Does anyone know how to explain to someone that we are people? Not personalities or anything else? Because a person who's otherwise supportive basically debated us on whether we can be people if we don't each have a body. Maybe resources?

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1 year

Caring and trying to not to hurt others IS your social responsibility, but not this general individualistic concept of "healing". Without a political base, you can't reduce harm to the broader community. Ones individual healing is far less consequential than their politics.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

Being plural

The Green Kasey 🎃

@RawbertBeef

3 years

What’s funny about this panel is that I’m not sure if it’s real or if it’s a meme.

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1 year

Plus, if said people desire to heal, that should be on their own terms. And honestly healing for us has been a better understanding of anarchist and anti-oppression politics. This has reduced many feelings of unworthiness in us, because so many of the standards are oppressive.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@PinkNews It's probably way more.

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The Foggy System🌫️

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2 years

@Voiles1910 @ChooChooHime @bloomfilters Yup!! Lesbian executes isekai boys who think they're the main character, then a girl is isekai-d and said lesbian executioner cannot kill her, and they fall in love. :)

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1 year

@T_llulah Mine isn't such a serious circumstance but I have had an alcohol problem so for several years I was totally sober - but I accidently drank an alcoholic drink that I thought was just a seltzer, which was very agitating and unexpected. It's a common issue

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3 years

@AutisticCallum_ As an autistic with fluctuating empathy, the first point is very distasteful. We should not be creating opposite stereotypes when trying to battle ones imposed on us; they will always harm people. It is also an issue to put empathy on such a pedestal.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@vampiiran There's also this!

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@thefoggysystem

3 years

Allistic ADHDers act like they're better than autistics

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

1 year

Happy Plural Pride and Mad Pride day!!!! Us plural lunatics are WINNING

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@battymamzelle //nazism Well, in terms of autism, it has always been used that way. "Being able to work for the Nazi regime" was Hans Asperger's line between "low/high-functioning" austistics after all.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

1 year

@RiotLinguist @Phlegmbuoy I love (/s) how they're framing this as some revolutionary, unheard of idea, when this is abuse apologia 101 and what everyone tells us as victims/survivors. Like, understanding it's abuse and not excusable is what let me see alternatives in life, understanding i deserve better.

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2 years

@PlushieDreadful I love how there are more rabbits on the ears 😭😭💖

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@AutSciPerson TW: suicide, attempts Our suicidal ideation started at around 6. Our first suicide attempts were at 10. Autistic people don't have the luxury others have to not feel this from the moment we understand things about the world. I can't believe people's first question is "how."

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

A nice reminder from Many Voices! (an MPD/DID newsletter that started in 1989)

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

1 year

@vvictorman_uel @kiknack @AAPD @SeeMiaRoll @maria_m_town @the_tattooedjew @emily_ladau @NeilFromNewYork Honestly I cannot with this shit anymore. Even other disabled people are throwing the rest of us under the metaphorical bus.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

There's also nuance to this since the conversation was in Greek, but she basically kept saying we can only be "personalities" or "beings" which sucks. She kind of conceded when we said "so are your opinions and beliefs your personality? Your age?" but she still seems skeptical.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@AutSciPerson Tw:// At 10 we'd already internalised the idea that we're broken, horrible and not normal. Not that that we're autistic and the world was horrible and broken. That we were. In our world it would be a bigger question of "how" an autistic child could /not/ contemplate suicide.

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The Foggy System🌫️

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2 years

The way an autistic person told me to stop calling it a disability because I should be "trying to make autism appealing to normal people" ????? In my school. What.

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@thefoggysystem

1 year

@sunbeamsonline Legiiiit like I don't have some problem with her personally but it's so reflective of my constant question, of "how does this hurt you?" and the answer implied is "it makes us normal ones look bad" 💀

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@thefoggysystem

3 years

@CaitlinKellyNYC @fortesalatifi Still a problem in the countries you listed. Also, these countries peddle themselves as progressive, while the medical care "for all" they have is flawed, and definitely not for all. Genuinely accessible medical care, free of ableism is impossible in a capitalist system.

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@thefoggysystem

1 year

@RealGayArbys Exactly!! I'm near-housebound because of my disabilities, which include ME/CFS and POTS that covid can cause... So I have very bad news for these people. They are risking being housebound, whether they like it or not, by their bodies + inaccessibility.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

Can we also pay attention to "sense of community"? From the rise of MPD diagnoses psychs created guidelines to separate us, supposedly as to "not trigger each other" but I believe it's the fact that it's threatening to them because connection = power and understanding.

The Plural Association - Grassroots Nonprofit &

@TpaNonprofit

2 years

You all make up new words to pathologize our experiences & call it imitated DID (there is no imitated borderline or depression, etc) You know it isn't factitious disorder because no sick role. You know it isn't malingering, because there is no gain.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

@Queer_Aliens Thank you for this, it's really sad when autistics that believe they are "safe" try to detach themselves from the rest of us :( Also, I didn't know some people don't consider autism to be a developmental disability? How could that be?

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@thefoggysystem

3 years

TW: suicide attempts (positive tone, about surviving) Hey kids we've officially gone more than a year without a suicide attempt :) It's been super hard but we're proud we've stuck around for everyone who cares about us!! 😊😊

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

1 year

@thecovidcanary Yes!!! As a developmentally and cognitively disabled person (and person who gives a shit) it's horrible how much people blame bigotry or violence or ignoring covid on covid brain damage. Like they're missing the literal point, to interrupt systemic ableism

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

Tw: DissociaDID Fuck, DissociaDID are back. They posted a video. This is bringing up some painful wounds. -Julie

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@QueerlyAutistic "mute" itself isn't a fantastic word. I opt for nonspeaking or semi-speaking personally. And "suffers" ascribes value to speech, which is a problem.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

-Marigold + others

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@thefoggysystem

3 years

@polyfragocean It works like that for *your* introjects. Don't try to speak on everyone's experiences; you will always end up being wrong.

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@thefoggysystem

3 years

@drdevonprice I use "neuroprivileged" instead of neurotypical. It denotes what I find to be a privilege. (though of course I know that it is still an unreachable and damaging standard for everyone)

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@thefoggysystem

2 years

@TpaNonprofit Other marginalised identities we have we say "they don't think we're even people" but with plurality we are outright told we are not people and that such a concept should be urgently fought against

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

It's rare genetic disease day, so I'm taking the moment to remind you that eugenics is bad. Just in case you forget.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

1 year

Yup, for sure. While I do not appreciate the portrayal by an allistic, nor this tv show in general, this is how I react. I mostly cannot control my visible reactions to things that hurt me sensory wise, and i hate when autistics which can mask more pretend like we don't exist

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1 year

the good doctor is cringey and typical bottom of the barrel cable tv but i wish that people would stop making blanket statements about autism and acting like we all react the same when experiencing sensory issues or sensory overload some autistic people DO act like this (1/4)

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

Plurality means that sometimes you walk in on something you definitely shouldn't have seen In your own head 😭😭😭

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@TheNervousSystm No one is an expert in someone else's experiences. /agree

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@the_calm_system I got scared for a second but then saw the name so I calmed down (pun intended)

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@kennysnailboi @oomfiesgood I assume you're asking in good faith, and the answer is that there are as many explanations as there are bi lesbians! A common instance is multigender people using this term. I'll try find a resource made by a bi lesbian that will explain it better than I can ^^

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

1 year

@RiotLinguist @Phlegmbuoy Yes all abuse comes from systems of oppression and hierarchies working on an individual level which abusers might not be totally aware of, but that doesn't make it not abuse??? Especially when most clearly hide their actions, so understand they are unacceptable.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@AutSciPerson TW: // Yes, at 6 it was what a 6 year old can think. It was "this is very difficult I want everything to stop." That absolutely still is suicidal ideation.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

@the_corvidae YESSSS this is what I always shout from the fucking rooftops at people who go "but if no threat of poverty and death nothing would ever happen!!!!" like bro do you not care about anything. Would you just sit there dying. Really??? Personally I like doing... stuff? -Julie + Ben

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

Guys psych abolition isn't about pretending people don't experience the things they do or saying no one should be taking medication, come on... We're on your side, *our* side. Especially in terms of medication the point is that it should be INFORMED consent, never forced/coerced

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

So, here are our short intros in no particular order: 🍓Amy: She/they/fae - caretaker - 17 + 24 y/o 🖤Abbie: She/he/they - 17 y/o 🌱Seth: They/it - persecutor - ageless 🎡Ben: He/They/it - protector - age slider 16-20 y/o

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@AutisticCallum_ Differences are good, including in empathy. You can (of course) love the empathy you experience - I mean, enjoy how I experience hyperempathy. But it is not okay to decide most of us experience this, further throwing low empathy autistics under the bus.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

Hello reminder that many of you follow an exclusionist with also other really shitty opinions

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

Second time the guy that says he's an ally and half our system have a crush on said "did you just assume my gender?" as a 'very funny joke'

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

We support all types of systems, and believe no-one is a 'wrong' kind of system. We are always growing and working to unlearn biases we have, especially since we are white. Feel free to call us out if and when we do something racist or otherwise discriminatory /gen

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

On a lighter note, we love history, anime, plushies, cats, Life is Strange and psychology! They're our special interests (we're #ActuallyAutistic and #ADHD ) We are trying to live more authentically as a plural, and hope that we can make the world more safe for plural people. 💙

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@CaitlinKellyNYC @fortesalatifi Just because the US healthcare system is abhorrent does not mean we should jot criticise other countries' healthcare. They are still infinitely below the bare minimum.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

1 year

Frankly I have to say this. No I am not prepared to "do anything" to improve my conditions or be cured. I have not and WILL NOT try anything possible simply to prove my disabilities are real and can't be cured by like, yoga or essential oils or praying to God or a supplement.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

Dear neurotypicals, ableist and sanist slurs are not and have never been funny. Fuck off. Stop using them. -Reese (I forgot to share the name I chose. A friend of ours actually suggested it for me)

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

1 year

@tink_ina Especially when, like me, you live on an island where diseases seen as rare elsewhere are actually way more common here and 5% of our population has at least one. Apparently it has to do with how our gene pool has been influenced by history. So here it's even stranger

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

If you are shitty to anyone, especially littles, our protectors and caretaker will come for you. We'll call your school :) /hj Anyway yeah otherwise hi hello welcome lol.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

1 year

@sadderlizards There actually is something wrong. With 1 planet. Our planet, the Earth 😭😭

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

Hello, we have the hang of drawing on our laptop generally now, I think. This is Steven Universe, drawn by Eloise in Autodesk Sketchbook.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

Genuine question, can *most* autistic people work? It feels like we're in the minority being unable to but that also seems weird...

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

It's so shocking (and upsetting) seeing many people who are ordinarily very leftist and literal abolitionists holding out for psychiatry exclusively as if it isn't a carceral, control-based, hierarchical institution meant to assimilate or institutionalise disabled people

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@the_calm_system We 100% believe Eda from The Owl House is plural (specifically that her and the owl beast are the system members) and I think it's a wonderful metaphor for accepting your system.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

This is a point that I'm glad I'm seeing being made. I absolutely hate the fact that some people (even systems!) are spreading this idea and believe it's a real issue. Just the same fakeclaiming over and over.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

The others will add on as they see fit. Not sure whether they want to be on here <3 🎡Made by Ben

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

Bit of a disclaimer: We're really forgetful, so please do not expect us to remember things lol. Also, we have many mental illnesses. This might cause us to avoid conflict (real or perceived) at all cost, so we might just block people we disagree with on important topics.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@THEFALLENHUM4N Seriously, the fact that exclus decide they can cherry pick what other people are allowed to identify as and not is ridiculous 🤦🏻

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

@the_corvidae We can't work in these social conditions because a lot of what we can do isn't paid or considered 'work' under capitalism, and we're forced out of stuff we could theoretically do minus the bs. If anything, abolishing capitalism would enable us to do MORE not less.... Anyway SMH

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

Also, we can be extremely negative, and are most of the time to be honest. Please do not vent to us without permission. We have fluctuating empathy, and sometimes we'll feel absolutely horrible about your problems and cry, and other times we will not care. It's a lot for us.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

@TpaNonprofit thank youuu this is very true. Fuck the ISSTD :)

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

1 year

@stefkaufman Some of our worst trauma comes from the cooperation of social workers/CPS-equivalent where we live and cops. They are one thing. Our abusive parents were investigated like 3 times and were let off, while mandatory reporting of other abuse we experienced made us be abused by SWs.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

@the_corvidae The way their tweet implies an institution can be traumatised LMAOOO 💀💀💀

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

I'm in the Middle East, where apparently we deserve occupation and war. The hypocrisy is glaring. It's painful to hear the struggles of Middle Eastern and African people discarded as natural and deserved.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

Weighing trauma not only invalidates those whose trauma is considered 'not bad enough' to affect them, but also those of us whose trauma is considered so "extreme" that it becomes an argument to see us as inhuman and stop any discussion of it as "too sensitive of a topic."

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

@WeAreAlexandra honestly, they show this with how they supposedly 'myth bust' by saying that we have "not multiple personalities, but less than one personality" It sounds like a thinly veiled "you're not people lol"

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@did_system Can we retweet? I know you guys have just made your account public again so it's probably important to check.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

1 year

Continuing the livetweeting about the #PPWC23 and we just heard this incredible phrase: "You all share a big electric meatball that happens to be a quantum computer" and I love that LMAO (this is the talk about being polyfragmented by the Arcades)

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

While everything else in our life is going to shit as per usual, we have good news! We're probably getting noise cancelling headphones soon!

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

1 year

@the_corvidae Plssss not the plural community being in 3rd place 😭😭💀 (true though)

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

Update after more than a year: we started using Simply Plural again and figured out how it works (yay!) And it's such a great app honestly... You can really tell it was made by a plural!!!

The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@the_calm_system We tried it, but our journal and a fronting tracker works way better for us. Simply plural isn't so simple to us, we find it quite hard to use. -🃏

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

Got essentially called too complex to treat and resistent to treatment (including with physical issues???) and our deadname by our now ex-therapist today✌🏻 /lh /neg

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

Hello my dears, I have a question: Is it okay to use 'kin' when you mean a character you relate to? Or is that a no-go?

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

"our body is only a social structure composed of many souls" ...is actually a Nietzsche quote, but does that not sound like it's about plurality?? Plural philosophy time :)

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

Hello, I'm O. I just wanted to introduce myself. My pronouns are she/they. I am a ghost and as a consequence am pretty shocked I can touch things. Also I'm a factive. I'm not sharing my full name here because it's personal + a trigger, so I don't want everyone knowing it. 🙃

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@thefoggysystem

3 years

CW: institutionalisation mention Okay I'm sorry we're in crisis right now so we might be pretty unstable on here. I will not tell you to not worry, but know there isn't proper reason to. Wish us luck that we'll not get sectioned or something. Anything but that.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

🕯️Florian: he/they/thy/fae - ED symptom holder, nonhuman - ageless

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

@the_corvidae Thank you for this!!! We've been misdiagnosed, and have self un-diagnosed. It's an important conversation to have.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

TW:Asperger, eugenics It's really difficult for me to tell allistics why it's wrong to use the term "Asperger's" and explain what Asperger was doing because I start to cry and shut down. I've had one person ASK me why I was crying when I was talking about children being murdered

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

Hello, we might be absent from twitter for a bit. Feeling disinterested, and pretty shaken up because of recent events.

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

Вери интерестинг /lh (Very interesting just written in Cyrillic)

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

3 years

🥢Kate: she/they - teacher/soother - 24 y/o

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The Foggy System🌫️

@thefoggysystem

2 years

@the_corvidae @treemunity We appreciate all of this, thank you. I was quite surprised when she did that, considering I assumed she was just using "personality" as a kind of shorthand because she didn't know what to say? But then when I said we're all people all this stuff happened. Ah well.

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@vvictorman_uel They're definitely tone policing.

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@thefoggysystem

1 year

@chronicallybeee This is exactly what they sound like now

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@thefoggysystem

3 years

@did_system You're welcome! OSDD does exist, so systems who don't pass the DID or P-DID criteria fully will go into that category (but it also includes all other DDs). The rest is correct. DID will finally be added, along with P-DID and essentially just renaming UDD to OSDD.

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@thefoggysystem

3 years

@library_fae Ikr. We're a minor and our best friend is 19, we've known her since she was a minor. What, are we going to stop being friends with a person that's essentially our family now she's over 18?? /rh

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@thefoggysystem

2 years

@sasswashere I got eye damage from covid, and my already present chronic illnesses exacerbated.

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@thefoggysystem

3 years

Reminder that we believe in abolishing the psychiatric industrial complex

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@thefoggysystem

3 years

I cannot wait to leave this household. Approximately 980 days to go! The less exciting thing is possibly having to get officially diagnosed with stuff so that we can qualify for disability if we'll need it [which is very likely]

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