it gives me the biggest ick when straight women act like this with each other…
i cant place exactly why, but it feels as wrong as the “it’s not cheating if it’s with a girl” thing
sapphics doing it on the other hand, are just being playfully flirty in a safe space
@seaside_desert
lmao im not reading a “bi lesbian/gay” masterdoc
the lesbian and bisexual label negate each other, both cannot coexist; you are either on or the other
the concept of bi lesbians is invalidating to lesbians and bisexuals alike
@rebeccaga11oway
@seaside_desert
as of today, you’re either bi or lesbian, not both
also, bi people were mislabeled mostly due to ignorance and a different political scene
the word bisexual has been around since 1892 to mean something different than lesbian
like, i could behave like this and pose like that with my sapphic friends, but never the straight ones, it just feels eerie
maybe it’s just me, but i wanted to put it out there
@theneed2confess
the main problem with this is that it is generally assumed that women thirsting over is the same as men doing it
in reality, our way of thirsting and saying “i need her to shove me against a wall” is not objectifying
also, most tweets are creative ways of saying she’s hot lol
@folkwhore02
lmao someone made an edit of the photo and added travis, clearly yall can see that it’s an intimate way of posing (i dont think taylor and blake are together)
okay but can we talk about this version of electric touch?? the song, to me, is so full of hope and excitement but this version was sad, anxious and hopeless…
@forivall
@seaside_desert
a big deal in lesbian spaces is how special not being attracted to men is, that doesnt resonate with bisexuals, you cant be both
if you are even mildly attracted to men, you’re not a lesbian
(talking about binary men here btw)
@Allinair
@rebeccaga11oway
@seaside_desert
yknow, lesbian doesnt feel like a rigid box or restricting for actual lesbians
it’s actially quite liberating
you do you sweetie, but words have meanings
@aftersunfilm
tbh yall are very very stupid
sexualities can be a huge part of someone’s personality, SPECIALLY lesbians
also, as long as it’s discussed in a respectful way, it shouldnt disturb you
it is OKAY to talk about people being gay
@ultrarotom
you had me until bi lesbians
for the last time: lesbians are both romantically and sexually exclusively attracted to people who arent binary gendered males
this obv includes non binary folks, but excludes men
(trans lesbians are lesbians)
@theneed2confess
yea you guys have blown your gaylor hatred so out of proportion that it’s made the fandom unwelcoming to queer women specifically
1950s called, they want their “dont speculate” rhetoric back
@TOElerateit
im saying that it gives me the ick when people see a photo like that and immediately try to justify that there’s nothing gay
it’s invalidating when people do everything possible to erase the gay alternative
also, this is about the argument, not taylor herself
@licensedfish
i honestly just listen to treacherous when im having second thoughts lmao
but all the lore put together… there just cant be THAT many coincidences
@cowboylikeco
hi! i thought i was bi for a while, and then i was hit with a life changing thought: i would be really disappointed if i could never be with a woman, but i wouldnt mind and actually would prefer never being with a man lmao
also the thought of being intimate with men unsettles me
@teatwone
@markpopham
did you even watch the show? after amon they elected a non-bender president so they could have a voice; after unalaq korra openes the spirit portals, she actually said “what if unalaq was right”
@midnightlor
tbh that’s a cute take, but im sure she’d love a partner who at least listens and pays attention to her lyrics… imo, understanding her songwriting is understanding her; paying attention to her music is paying attention to how she feels; she is her art
emily dickinson style lol
@dntlikeacidrock
@ferrucore
@TrackCarly
that is an insanely homophobic thing to say, like do you hear yourself???
not only we have called them out and complained, but also, we dont hypersexualize her, like at all
the only thing we do is call her fruity and attractive, get a grip jfc
@teatwone
@markpopham
after zaheer korra went through a self healing journey and concluded that she had to learn from her enemies who had right motives but they took them too far, and proceeded to go and fight a fascist dictator; and after kuvira the earth monarchy was abolished. so your point was..?
@goodwitchlor
that’s exactly how im feeling!! it’s exhausting to be anti travlor cause all my irls love them, and they dont seem to get that i dont hate the guy, i hate the effect this narrative has on what and how people talk about her
she’s at her peak, and all they talk about is travis 🙄
@forivall
@seaside_desert
words mean things, you cant change the definition of lesbian on a whim
why have three labels that mean the same? seems pretty stupid
plus that would mean we dont have a word or label for non men liking non men exclusively
what’s the fucking point
@VigilanteSage
just dont engage with them
they say a bi lesbian is a bisexual woman with either a heavy preference for women or who wouldnt be with a man romantically (but sexually yes)
if you say sth against it, they call you a terf
i love how billie has said she isn’t straight in the past, and still recently came out
almost like that is the most common experience for us queer people
she single-handedly validated picking up on queer flagging in spite of “evidence against it”
@Nova19894
@Sydelenasup
she never said that, and i dont think most kf her fans would accept it, you fail to notice how homophobic a LOT of swifties are
@lvnhred
asi como entre amigas hacemos esto, entre una pareja de mujeres tmb
invalidar la perspectiva romantica invalida la experiencia safica
no todo es blanco o negro
@CloutedCat
you forgot to mention so many korra feats 🙈, i’ll only bother to mention that Korra knows how to heal with water, so she could heal herself during battle
im begging one of you to help me make sense of the wcs mashup with ivy cause i personally believe ivy deserved SO MUCH BETTER
i cant make a connection thematically between the two and its pissing me off
@CaptAmazo
i’ll keep it in mind, thanks!!
i truly never imagined trans women could have periods, but it makes perfect sense that it’s actually the 28day hormone cycle
amazing!!! /gen
@q_squared_
okay, but lesbians dont want to “augment” the label, it’s not only about what bi non binary people want
get a new label, dont drag lesbians into a conversation about being attracted to binary gendered men
@CloutedCat
whats funny is that you dont compare any aang feats with Korra’s, you just point them out as great (and they are great, i love Aang), and with Korra’s you dont do the same.. seems like your thread is biased and therefore lacks objectivity
like, i could behave like this and pose like that with my sapphic friends, but never the straight ones, it just feels eerie
maybe it’s just me, but i wanted to put it out there
@zesbiian
@karm4ismygf
the song is full of sex references, not cutesy lyrics like “i wanna wear his initial on a chain round my neck”
it’s the context of the song what gives it further meaning
@LoveCanBurn0ut
she’s currently platonic friends with Harry, and the prologue talks about the frustrating experience of not being able to have friends
and ofc she never said anything about haylors, she never addressed any part of the fandom directly
@ifyoulethimstay
idk i feel like the overarching theme is not there… wcs specifically is about a very toxic, problematic and abusive relationship, and pairing it with ivy seems so wild to me
(thanks for linking those analysis 🫶🏼)
@forivall
@seaside_desert
lesbian cant mean contradictory things
different yes, not contradicting
there are like 4 different ways of describing the type of split attraction you’re talking about, and none of them are lesbian
this is getting exhausting, so thanks for the cordial exchange of opinions :)
@realbreadlor
i dont interact, but i’ve been following you for a while and usually like your takes, even when i dont agree, you make good points ☺️
people in here can sometimes be a little strict and refuse to see nuance
@kittygang_4ever
your “straight girl culture” contributes to us sapphics not being taken seriously, and that’s why it gives me the ick
so no, i wont “deal with it”, i will express my discomfort
you could maybe try listening to us when we say it’s harmful
@q_squared_
girl, the people on this thread were saying lesbians could want to have sex with men, im only negating that point
lesbian already involves attraction to non binary genders, adding “bi” is unnecessary
@lukesarcher
thinking someone is gay is like, the least psychotic thing ever
have you ever been outside? ever seen someone and thought “huh i bet they’re gay”?
i wont believe you if you say no, gays and homophobes alike do it lmao
do you even know what psychosis is?
@coryoirl
@the_manlor
@ifyoulethimstay
yea no i understand that, i learned it when i was trying to understand the concept of he/him lesbians and i agree and have no issue with that!!
that’s why i was referring specifically about trans men that aren’t non binary
(still /gen btw)
@kyarailmepls
@karazrell
they really dont actually, she’s just taken captive. but even while she is captive she can handle herself, she’s not portrayed as helpless 😁