The first time I saw Cloud make the block, the way he stared at Sephiroth - sent shivers up and down my spine... I've never seen Cloud look this way during any confrontation in these games before.
You can feel it yourself that he's NEVER gonna let anyone harm her ever again. ๐ฌ
This projection is wildddd!! I called it this morning - it was never about the costume, it's about the fact they only wanted the Celes costume cos she's Locke's love interest. ๐
Tifa has SO MANY costumes in this game and continues to do so - they're not short on options!!
I've now been told that in many
#sefikura
~kawaii~ fanworks that Sephiroth is depicted as a SNOW LEOPARD?!?!
NOONE TELLING ME ABOUT THIS EITHER?!
Noone is telling me nuffin anymore - I just gotta find out for myself and be surprised and enamoured on my own terms?! ๐ญ
(thanku)
As promised - here's my essay for the AS in FFVII Rebirth that I've experienced so far... one side of the fandom isn't going to like it - but whatevs. ๐
I'll write up the second part (focused solely on the game itself) tomorrow at some point as I've just got back from vacay. ๐
Since the FF7 devs have been trying to soft-launch us into accepting the romance between Cloud and Aerith in the EC fireworks event... does anyone else feel they've suddenly gone full HARD-LAUNCH into it the following weeks afterwards? Lmao... it's just really funny to me. ๐๐คญ
The reasons why I prefer engaging with CA shippers and Fujos over CT shippers is cos they're the cheekiest mofos ever.
>They ~know~ how to theorycraft outside their ship.
>They're harmless.
>They love soppy romance.
>They're friendly.
>They won't threaten to murder or r^pe you.
Canโt believe I gotta spell this out but here we are ๐ letโs break down the Marlene & Zack scenes, yeah?
Marlene reveals she knows Sephiroth will kill Aerith. Woah. Where did this come from? She barely knew Aerith for more than five minutes! Zack is skeptical at first. (1/13)
This projection is wildddd!! I called it this morning - it was never about the costume, it's about the fact they only wanted the Celes costume cos she's Locke's love interest. ๐
Tifa has SO MANY costumes in this game and continues to do so - they're not short on options!!
Aerith - "How can you want this, Sephiroth?"
Sephiroth - "Begone... your part is played here."
Aerith - "How can you want an eternity of lonliness?"
She STILL cares... even for her mortal enemy.
Please for Sephiroth to be saved... he is babebe. ๐ญ
Getting p. sick of these accusations saying that MLW isn't a real person - I can vouch for him.
I talk to him often in DMs, he sends me bespoke voice messages, he sends me photos even when he's on track n' field or at the gym to cheer me up if I feel lonely - he's the real deal.
@AerithxZacks
@QueenLolipopo
@JasniDebates
Oh you want to revisit this post that you deleted?
โDo act sillyโ please do you really want to be put on blast this badly. Yeah you yeeted this post because you knew racist implications can route from it.
Four of us came forward about it, and we still had people doubting/mocking our recollection of the same traumatic events.
Since then... another three have come forward to say they saw it all happening - and there will be even more to come cos those forums had high traffic.
It's infuriating that /multiple people/ from different parts of this fandom heard Ciml's name and went "oh, fuck, not her again" completely independently of each other (with two of us being mods who had to DEAL with her) spoke out and the victim herself put out samples of Ciml
Damn... I'm not suprised it shook the FF7 devs up enough to finally take action over it - it's so easy to get yourself wrapped up in weird cults over the internet cos you never believe it could ever happen to you.
It's the end result of forming parasocial relationships online.
@MsSaiFox
I need to be in bed... but~ First the EC fireworks event kicked them off, then the EC Aerith/Cloud handholding wallpaper, then the heavily clerith official orchestra tour kicked them off, now Kitase has made an official statement saying A is C's "taisetsu na hito" - THEY ARE MAD.
Uhh... no thanks.
The way I'd prolly go about fixing this is to donate the proceeds of the commission/prints to Black and POC charities - especially women's shelters.
Yikes. ๐ฌ
Oh come the fuck on... Cloud launched into a jealous outburst at Aerith - even Tifa had to step in and tell him to mind his own!! ๐
There's deffo no optional dialogue to be had to even suggest that it involved any concern - he doesn't want to hear about her feelings for Zack.
Thank you for stating your "opinion". That's more I like it. Though Ultimania Omega and the context devs provided in Remake Ultimania (Evergreen Park scene) already proved it's the opposite of what you believed in so you should have started with "I think.../in my opinion...")๐คทโโ๏ธ
I think this is the last straw for me considering I've -only- just now found out that these people are still around on various platforms.
The thread is worth the read, it basically shows how the fandom has been failed for decades - by others in the fandom not giving a shit.
Many of you are confused about ships in regards to me.
If I -HAD- to have a ship... it would be AeriSeph!! Then CloudxAerithxSephiroth (not sure what that's called) - then Sefikuru, then AerTi and Clerith come at last...
I just don't do CloTi cos it's boring as fuck. ๐๐
@MsSaiFox
And he still isn't happy at the very end of it all, he's off on his motorbike again still chasing fields of yellow flowers...
Tifa - "Let's stay at home and be a family!"
Cloud - "Uhuh... welp, I gotta go make this delivery - we all gotta eat!!"
(isn't seen again for weeks~)
This is what happens when you provide evidence when it's clear - this fucking prick went AWOL on the matter... then went silent when given what he wanted.
Dozens of them did the same.
This is why women don't come out about being sexually abused, coerced or hurt by "adults".
My guy I donโt care if you wanna hold hands and make kissy faces with someone who took my minor photos and photoshopped my face onto sc*t po*n.
That ainโt got shit to do with me and everything to do with you as a person. Go piss vinegar somewhere else and away from me.
The way Cloud just grabs and kisses her, starts laughing for no reason... then Zack walks by with his coffee just minding his own then Cloud just runs after Sephiroth who is walking by over the privets, lmaooo!! ๐
You know what? This is OUR space in the FF7 fandom - no fuckheads allowed.
We create and curate through personal moderation now.
Everyone I've met in the past six months have been cool as fuck, we don't ever have to deal with anyones shit ever again - or even talk about it.
Nuhuh, you fuckers are NOT gonna spin this and play victim in this - if you're still following Tana and anyone else who is still following Tana and don't want to be "lumped in" or associated with her... then do the right thing and block them.
Y'know, actually stop associating.
@Dizzy_Shark
The two moderators (myself inc.) of the many forums that Tana invaded were/are not even "CAs" - we're not interested in the LTD, I'm into the theory/lore side of the franchise and Sai is into the BL/Fujin side of the franchise.
Two Clotis came forward yesterday as well.
WHY NOBODY TELL ME FFX IS MARITIME THEMED?!
WHY NOBODY TELL ME LULU HAS MOOGLES AS WEAPONS?!
WHY IS THIS GAME SO FUN AND PRETTY AND CUTE AND NOBODY TELL ME?!
NOONE TELLED ME ABOUT STOIC BUSTY GOTH BLACK MAGE WITH MOOGLE WEAPONS IN PRETTY MARITIME WORLD. ๐ฅบ๐ญ๐โ๏ธ๐๐ดโโ ๏ธ
(thanku)
I do wonder to myself - how did a game like FFVII (which has huge Communist themes and vibes, is pro-diversity, pro-environment and anti-capitalist) end up being hijacked by neo-nazis.
And then I realise... oh... it's cos they just project their fantasies on a "trad-wife" Tifa.
If Bre came forward about this all by herself - noone would've believed her, I've been in the same position before and it causes -further- trauma... I've no doubt she would've been chased out of the fandom for it.
I've blocked every single one of you who doubted us for a second.
@MsSaiFox
To us ~ it isn't!! They've done this to themselves tho... there is a madness to believing in your own lies after twisting the truth for decades, I suppose!!
@KenMastersUSA
They dubbed themselves the "Tifa Protection Squad".
After being given their own sub-forum on CxA, they stopped making new accounts but it didn't stop the racism or porn spam... Tana was the most vocal one of the bunch... I left shortly after that forum was created by the admin.
@KenMastersUSA
As I've said... time and time again - Aerith has repayed Cloud in dates 1000x over, but he still won't quit being her bodyguard.
Maybe he just loves his line of work and his regular "pay cheque". ๐
The reason why I want a happy ending to the remake series, is so I can see you all ugly sobbing on the TL and on streams.
CA kiss/Aerith living/Sephiroth being himself free of Jenova/New future and horizons/Things working out okay/Conclusive ending.
I'm gonna eat that all up.
@MsSaiFox
I can't believe you fucking picked it up and kept it... that's the ultimate best bit!! One fuji's trash is another fuji's treasure type-shit going on. ๐
I think it was deliberately created by the devs to mirror the player's heightened emotions during a predictable outcome that isn't wanted.
I didn't even start breathing again until he disarmed Sephiroth... but that brief moment given for me to breathe led to lots of tears, lol.
@KenMastersUSA
It was like this -every single day- for the three months I was on those forums, and it lasted for hours on end.
It was the same on another forum and on LJ. They were coordinated attacks and IP masking - something that... not many "10 year olds" would have the knowledge of.
@mlwjrpg
Doesn't matter how long ago it was - the fact is that it's still prevailent to this very day and STILL continues on.
It's gone on for 20+ years and they still haven't learned any lessons or grown out of that behaviour.
God... they just don't stop do they? Always hand holding - it's getting explicit at this point, like... I'm a total sucker for it and it makes me pine like crazy, but don't tell anyone that, okay?
It'll destroy my tsundere sukeban reputation. ๐ค๐
It's been difficult for all of us, especially Bre... we've had to revisit that shared trauma, it's resurfaced similar trauma that some of us are still dealing with and tbh... I won't be forgiving the ones who attacked/mocked us.
I'm leaving it here now, please give us space.
Lmao... you're not gonna believe what I just found in the loft. I was putting away some boxes, and I found this relic from 1997 - it's still in good shape, and I'm pissing myself... can't believe I still have it.
Do I hang it back on my wall and never get laid ever again?
Y/Y?
@mlwjrpg
Her patiance with him is incredible, I think she knew he was mentally cooked around the first time they met.
When Tifa forgets about that (Kalm rooftop for example) and pokes at his psyche - he reacts really badly to it which causes her to get hurt.
This is a blocklist - it's fine to use it and it's description is fine considering it describes their motives and doesn't share personal information about them.
The majority of the TPS cult are included on here - don't engage with them... it's seriously not worth the hassle.
An important PSA for my friends:
Certain fans have been even more aggressive than usual lately, coming after CAs in their threads, even DMs. To help everybody better protect themselves & curate their space, Iโve made an extensive block list.
Please pass it on & take care. ๐
Yikes... some parts of the fandom not beating the "far-right" allegations, huh?
You're literally defending Nazis over a shitpost and spinning it around to make those posters look like bad people for making jokes about it?
If you don't get the references why, then don't comment.
@luna_freysia
Oh... so they DO understand that Cloud and Aerith are the chosen hero and heroine of the story - but CHOOSE to be utter cunts about it regardless.
This just mails what I've been saying about them for literal decades.
@KenMastersUSA
After I left the CxA forums, I spent a bit of time (less than a month) on the forums... and as you'd expect - they were over on there as well, causing the same problems. They were allowed free roam on there though, I left the fandom completely after that.
All I have to say about the Otome (Maiden) novella is that - You can't write it off as "non canon" simply cos you don't like the content. It's there in the official Ultimania Omega - greenlighted by Squeenix, and the devs by proxy.
Gonna say it now... before I go to bed... even by 1997 standards.
Aerith has the biggest booty, she always has done... when you see that - it's like sparkles... she's wearing a cut off moto-jacket for a reason... it's her big bum and it is glorious.
I think this is how everyone is feeling right now... I don't know what else to say - I hope Mu's loved ones will be okay and find peace and solace during this time.
Too young... too soon. ๐
@PeachiieKeen
...and the Planet fulfilled her wishes cos of her connection to humans - the same humans who worked tirelessly in draining it's resources in the first place.
The planet favours her - she's literally the chosen one, lol.
They've updated the Cetra tower and I KNEW that place was heavily corrupted by Jenova's presence.
I have a feeling that end-game Jenova (synthesis) is gonna be -HUGE- in R3... and I'm calling it now... cross-party teams (inc. Zack, Aerith and Sephiroth) all taking her down.
I have questions...
Where is Midgar Falls on the map? I'm guessing it's that crater-like location where Ultima WEAPON can be found hovering around in the OG?
What is the "Sealed Tower of the Cetra"? What's it for? What's it do? Is this gonna be explained in FFVII Rebirth?
I just wanted to point out how much BABY AERITH shines out in these screenshots when she's happy...
(The first three are
@AerithCloud3
's screenshots, please credit her and not me.)
Just... ๐ญ
Goonwind is still a thing right? But what about the Parasol thing? ๐๏ธ๐
Soft sands >>> hard rocks.
I'll explain...
Cleriths are super excited over a chance that CxA get married/have kids, so I played with the idea that they'll do this on their honeymoon at Costa Del Sol...
@migardeners27
Most of those replying are not regular CTs - they're involved in the "Tifa Protection Squad" and they're infamous for not being friendly, at all.
If I ever see a long list of blocks in a single thread - it's them, you've prolly been chosen as the latest target in their GC.
@chairwoman_H
It was the first thing that came to mind after watching the CT streams - like... I see what you're doing there - you're gonna regret that later on.
There's huge focus on Aerith's fear of abandonment and alienation (IN BOTH R1/R2) and they're repeating that on her as an adult. ๐
Right...
I'm sick of all of this shit being ignored when it's RIGHT THERE in front of you - as I said previously, you have to be self-inserting/projecting to deviate from what the story is TELLING YOU.
@chairwoman_H
Yep... and suffer they did - you could see how painful it was for them to endure it all by their reactions to it on camera, lol.
Find another game to play if you hate the deuteragonist so much, this isn't for you cos even when you get given an optional smooch you're not happy!!
My routine for being around this summer has changed a lot... I only care to do my EC dailies - I mess about on social media for a bit as I'm doing that, then get back offline, lol.
It looks like I'm not really missing much at all... I hope you're all having an easy weekend. ๐ฅฐ
I'm all packed and prepped for my surgery/hospital stay tomorrow... I'll be back on Wednesday? That's just due to the fact I'm prolly gonna be sore for a few days - I'll be resting up and recovering so I won't really have time to update until then.
So... ta-ta I guess. ๐
EC is ever so subtly gentle and sweet in regards to Cloud and Aerith's interactions in events... looks at the two kitty cats being friendly with each other as a reflection of that - then CxA get shiny little flower seeds stuck in each other's hair... Ughh... disgusting. ๐ฅน๐ญ๐
Sai gets it without me even having to remind her, or see my posts or know my opinion...
Neither does the other 413 posters out there - so why do some fucking losers out there even play this game or the rest of the compilation if they can't stand this character so much?
@sugarfreebummer
@mlwjrpg
Her story is the catalyst for Remake and Rebirth, and will be the same in Re3.
This fandom needs to stop pretending like Aerith isnโt the heart of this fucking series. I donโt care if they donโt want to ship Aerith and CloudโI donโt eitherโbut guess what?
Aerith. Is. FFVII.
Okay... we've got some answers. Yes, I've got Andenomyosis - it's p. severe and it's inflamed. Yes, there's a tear in my left fallopian tube. Yes... both can be fixed with surgery.
I've been booked in for my first surgery next month before my next period, that's to fix the tear.
@reblokha
@IriStarsong
@AerithCloud3
It's some of the same people who sent snu*f po*n at Sai.
Tana was the ringleader back on those forums, I used to be a moderator of one of them - I left when the admin decided to make a subforum for them to "quarantine" them cos they kept getting around bans.
I had enough of it.
@KenMastersUSA
There were 4-6 of them in total, taking it in turns to spam the boards... one would be banned, another account would show up, then another... there would be a total of 20 bans a week, and the process just kept repeating itself until they were "quarantined" with their own forum.
@imaybun
I'm not a big fan of optional couples, I prefer those that have been the pillar of the story for 30 years
So my heart will always be Aerith and Cloud ๐ฅฐ
Nobuo just looks completely done with it all... I'm really not surprised that he announced he was retiring a week before Rebirth was released.
He knows... he knew.
Here is a more literal translation for those interested.
You can be optimistic and take it that he is calling the song MORE than just a love song.
Or you can be cynical and say he is being vague on purpose, or avoiding ships. ๐
#NoPromisesToKeep
#NoPromisesToSanity
#FF7R
I missed this a few days ago due to working on art... but I'll always support a fan who takes time to be interested in the details and lore.
The conversation between CxA is as straightforward as saying "I know where we stand now."
"I get it and I understand" is what it means.
Now this is a translation of answer from JP Twt about this scene. In JP Aerith said "Which love is this love?" and some ppl had doubt about Aerith love to Cloud. The answer is really simple, comes directly from OTWttS Case of Life Stream White novel by Nojima.
Is anyone else having the issue of likes dissapearing on posts that reappear on your timeline? I must of liked about a dozen pieces of artwork and whenever I see them pop back up later on... my likes have gone.
It's been happening for a couple of weeks now. ๐ซค
@chairwoman_H
I don't care about a fictional character - I just remember having so many sleepless nights as a teenager, having to delete extreme po*nography spammed onto the forums because the admin tried to play therapist with these sorts of people.
It just bought back a lot of anger, lol.
@gurekura
@HerzloserEngel
It's more akin to the far-right "trad wife" mentality... No independancy, has to always dote, virgin, first love is marriage.
It's incredibly misogynistic and they do it with Tifa as well.
genuinely CANNOT cope with the way he smiles and closes his eyes here, how his head leans down towards her in contentment, he meant this hug with his whole chest let me lie down ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
Some of the ones shouting the loudest haven't even played EC - the game is FREE TO PLAY. You are not forced into buying anything... you get so many freebies in the game that you can save crystals for all of Tifa's outfits without ever spending a dime. ๐
I want to play as Aerith exploring the FC... finding out how to summon Holy, interacting with strange ancient technology, the clues she gets to leave behind for the party after her "death" - make a whole playable solo quest with Aerith at the start of the third game. ๐
I mean, look. Look what Aerith can do. Can you imagine exploring this dead and mysterious city through her eyes? Cloud couldn't understand. But she can. Oh, the potential for LORE ๐ญโค๏ธ
They literally get mad at nothing and everything all at once... why are they like thissss?? ๐
They have completely dispelled everything everyone thought was "threatening" about them... this is hilarious.
@Dizzy_Shark
The two moderators (myself inc.) of the many forums that Tana invaded were/are not even "CAs" - we're not interested in the LTD, I'm into the theory/lore side of the franchise and Sai is into the BL/Fujin side of the franchise.
Two Clotis came forward yesterday as well.
@DimitriCaelum22
They don't listen to Cloud, or Zack himself for that matter either.
Or the additional media like the Ultimanias... just flat out refusal to absorb it all.
Ever since I talked about the "elephant in the room" - Aerith's MASSIVE ASS... I've been seeing more moots posting about this.
Please continue... it's real.
I don't think Tifa is an "unreliable narrator" - cos she'd have to be telling her side of the story... and she doesn't until she's forced to in the LS.
Before that she just outright lies, omits the truth and is v. evasive in the OG.
The "unreliable narrator" role is Clouds.
ff7twt seems to not understand what an "unreliable narrator" actually is. They'll say say "Tifa misremembers, forgets, might be wrong" but then leave it at that for some reason.
Tifa is an unreliable narrator. No, this is not an "anti-Tifa" post by pointing out how this works.
Also accusing him of being every other black and PoC in our community SMACKS of racism... you do it to MLW, Ken and JRPGfanboy on the daily, accusing them of being the same person with alts and you think people can't see through it?
We do.
Leave people the fuck alone.
In 19' and '23 - I went through a similar ordeal elsewhere - I was the only person to speak up about shit like this, I was mocked, abandoned, slandered, lied about, socks created by them to hurt me more, had my relationships sabotaged, my personal life invaded.
Reflect on that.
If Bre came forward about this all by herself - noone would've believed her, I've been in the same position before and it causes -further- trauma... I've no doubt she would've been chased out of the fandom for it.
I've blocked every single one of you who doubted us for a second.
Morning everyone... how are you all feeling today? I hope you've got plenty of rest since Tuesday night cos that was all a lot to deal with, wasn't it? ๐
Plz reach out to your friends if you're still struggling, and most of us here will be happy to DM with you if need be. โค๏ธโ๐ฉน
Seeing as there's not been any news on the Srelaita front - I'll be ceasing in engaging/promoting and blocking the three VAs who have been silent on the issue - one of them has been silent since Tana was exposed months ago after working with her and yeh...
Interesting threads... I just wanna add that in my 20 yrs of being online - clotis are a special blend of fucked up shit that I don't fw.
I've been exposed to a few online cults, but this lot is by far the worst of them. You'll find one or two of them that are okayish but nah...
Iโm not gonna pretend like all CAs are innocent angels but I have yet to see a single CA stoop this low. Meanwhile in just 4 months Iโve seen CTs do ALL the things below & then some.
Maybe yโall should check your own shipmates before throwing accusations at us. Food for thought.
@iStanDaiquiri
Nah... I want the very original ORIGINAL idea of the devs deciding that Sephiroth and Aerith were past lovers turned to enemies... lmao!!
Makes me have funny horny feelings... ๐
Like... damn, I gotta eventually find me someone that feels the same way about me that Cloud does about Aerith. ๐
...or the way he feels about Sephiroth for that matter, lol.
At ToA... she was denied easier access cos of her half-heritage as a Cetra/Human.
But she got in there and showed them (Cetra) who she was with now unlocked skills - she was only then allowed passage.
She HAD to go to the FC cos that was the direct way to speak to the planet.
@chairwoman_H
It's about the time Nojima was getting harrassment, turns out he wasn't the only one and the other devs have been getting the same treatment.
They've also been threatening fans they don't like with putting them on actual doxxing dossiers/lists.
Two have been aressted for it.
Going out of your way to do "research" on him for NO REASON WHATSOEVER just proves our point about your weird doxxing vendettas.
We've been telling everyone this for years... it's gone on for so long that you believe it's ~normal~ behaviour and act offended when called out.
It really angers the TPS cult... cos it's all to do with self-moderating and they can't do shit about that.
Let them have the FF7 Wiki - who cares? That was fucked a long time ago... who give a shit about TV Tropes, do people even use that anymore?
Start keeping it together. ๐
Being a "people pleaser" isn't a positive trait... it's usually a comorbidity aspect of mental illness or trauma.
I've thankfully never experienced it myself, but I know people who have it - and they treat it as some kind of... weird good thing because they don't understand it.
@chairwoman_H
loneliness and her actions which directly impacted him and his mother.
She was very, very self-centered... which tracks for people who are 'people pleasers'. Anyone who has met a people pleaser knows that it's not about other people, it's all about how /they/ feel.
Hey
@BeardSmexy
you seem to inteject yourself into black peoples threads a lot - just like the "cloti supremacy" account -- you do it so much more often than the regular CA accounts too.
Fucking weird that, isn't it? ๐ค