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@stefsaul

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S'all good. Currently covering colleges, universities, and a few other topics for @nytimesnational . Send me your story ideas at sauls @nytimes .com

New York, New York
Joined March 2012
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2 years
I'm just so happy I didn't have to figure out the circumference of a circle while reporting this story with @DanaGoldstein . What is Pi again?
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6 years
This is very big news.
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stephanie saul
4 years
Thank you @jimdao for your courage and your dedication to upholding the principles we value, including the right to hear diverse voices.
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4 years
@DamonLinker @jimdao @RubensteinAdam @nytopinion Very much agree. A strong paper and strong democracy does not shy from many voices. And this one had clear news value
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2 years
A window into a little known period in the life of Gov. Ron DeSantis — a time when he partied with high school students and insisted that the Civil War was not about slavery — by ⁦ @FrancesRobles ⁩.
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stephanie saul
5 years
Can't wait to watch this important work on family separations by my colleague @itscaitlinhd
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The Weekly
5 years
The youngest known child taken from his parents at the US-Mexico border was only 4 months old. Meet him and his family on #TheWeeklyNYT on @fxnetworks and @hulu .
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5 years
A look with @jwpetersNYT on how voters in Port Huron view @realDonaldTrump and his recent tirades against four women members of Congress. They're willing to over look his petulance as long as local factories are hiring.
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In Michigan, some voters who supported the president in 2016 have largely overlooked his attacks against 4 freshman congresswomen, voicing strong support for President Trump's re-election
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stephanie saul
4 years
Our latest from the Georgia Senate race, a look at the life and career of Senator David Perdue. With @RichardFausset and @laforgia .
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stephanie saul
3 years
Whoa. Looks like the 2022 campaign is getting off to an early start in Wisconsin. Buckle up your seatbelts, folks.
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Ben Wikler
3 years
#RadicalRebecca is wrong on COVID-19. Watch and amplify our new ad.
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stephanie saul
3 years
With Putin invading Ukraine, thought I would re-up this piece on Russian investment in NYC condos that @louisestory and I wrote in 2015. Does Putin, himself, have a NYC condo through an LLC? Who knows.
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7 years
@glennthrush Why no sleepover?? 4 Hours at the White House With Ted Nugent, Sarah Palin and Kid Rock, via @nytimes
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stephanie saul
2 years
The @nytimes building at 620 8th Avenue must be pretty empty this week as members of the @NYTimesGuild continue to work remotely. All we want is a fair contract.
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Haley Willis
2 years
The @nytimes is giving employees branded lunch boxes this week as a return-to-office perk. We want respect and a fair contract instead — so I’m working from home this week along with 1,300 of my @NYTimesGuild and @NYTGuildTech colleagues, with support from @WirecutterUnion .
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stephanie saul
4 years
Anyone having trouble voting, please give me a call at 917-453-7047. I'm with The New York Times and we're doing reporting on this topic.
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Austin Bloomberg
4 years
#IllinoisPrimary voting in Chicago is an absolute mess. Found out last night our polling place had changed — not from the city but via a random text from a voting org. Went to new polling place this morning, and they didn’t yet have proper ballots for our precinct.
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stephanie saul
3 years
Dick Uihlein, the GOP megadonor, gave $6,000 to the conservative school board candidates in Ozaukee County. Wonder if he's involved in other Wisconsin school races. Here's our story on the Mequon-Thiensville school recall and why it's a big deal.
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stephanie saul
7 years
@mrdrleland Do you have a moment to discuss? Stephanie Saul/New York Times 917-453-7047.
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stephanie saul
2 years
After 20 months of negotiations, today I joined more than 1,000 of my @NYTimesGuild colleagues in pledging to walk out if @nytimes does not agree to a complete and fair contract by Dec. 8. Enough is enough.
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2 years
Proud to be among those signing this letter. We are journalists, not activists, and that line has to remain clear. And thanks to @jwpetersNYT for drafting this.
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Mediagazer
2 years
Dozens of New York Times staffers object to the NewsGuild of New York head's letter affirming the right to criticize the paper, amid a feud over trans coverage ( @charlottetklein / Vanity Fair)
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stephanie saul
10 years
About $8 billion goes each year for NYC residences costing more than $5 million, 3x the amount a decade ago. http://t.co/0YeRPMfTQ5
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stephanie saul
1 year
The @nytimes 's union-busting decision to eliminate our Sports desk is out of bounds. I stand with more than 1,000 @NYTimesGuild , @WirecutterUnion + @NYTGuildTech members in demanding that Times management stop violating our contract and respect union work.
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NYTimesGuild
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The @nytimes violated core principles of our contract with its decision to shutter our Sports desk and replace it with The Athletic. We will not stand for the company’s brazen union-busting or its attempts to pit workers against each other.
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stephanie saul
6 years
Our interview with @CoreyStewartVA , published this morning, looks at his white nationalist support and the dilemma his candidacy poses for @VA_GOP .
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Patrick Healy
6 years
“I don’t have a racist bone in my body.” The New York Times looked at white nationalist support and ties to Corey Stewart, the Republican nominee for US Senate from Virginia, and talked to Stewart about his views on race.
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3 years
Republican mega-donor Dick Uihlein, a Lake Forest, Ill. mogul I wrote about in 2018, is funding the Mequon-Thiensville School District recall efforts in Ozaukee County, according to newly-filed campaign reports.
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stephanie saul
2 years
I stand with @powellnyt and my other colleagues @nytimes who have courageously covered these topics.
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Michael Powell
2 years
Journalism is meant to ask difficult and discomforting questions, and to question institutions, including the medical establishment. I am very proud to work at a place that publishes the work of @emilybazelon , Katie Baker, Azeen Ghoryashi, @mega2e and @DouthatNYT
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stephanie saul
3 years
Very saddened by the loss of reporter Timothy Williams, whose essence is captured in this thread by @derek_m_norman
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Derek M. Norman
3 years
It's been a very tough week and a hard punch to the gut for many of us, learning that a close colleague, mentor and friend had died. Timothy Williams was my team leader over the past year, covering the impact of the coronavirus in prisons across the country
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stephanie saul
1 year
More than 100 people showed up at Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory today to hear ⁦⁦ @kzernike ⁩ discuss her book, The Exceptions. Also on stage was the pioneering biologist, Nancy Hopkins, whose fight for women is at the heart of the story.
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2 years
During my years covering Mississippi government, I covered some major scandals. This, chronicled by our ⁦ @NeilMacFarquhar ⁩, could be the granddaddy of them all.
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stephanie saul
3 years
The fact I find most surprising in this fascinating piece by @ShaneGoldmacher and @kenvogel is not that Dems have overtaken Republicans in the dark money race, but that the Koch network helped fund @LJFamFoundation .
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stephanie saul
3 years
@KevinLevin @DrIbram Seems similar to the book used in my Mississippi school, back in the day.
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stephanie saul
10 years
Our investigation shows how shell companies buy luxury NYC condominiums http://t.co/0YeRPMfTQ5 http://t.co/0rSbcyfSjX
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stephanie saul
4 years
One of the key findings from The New York Times investigation of Trump's taxes involves Ivanka Trump. While working as an employee of the Trump Organization, she appears to have received “consulting fees” that also helped reduce the family’s tax bill.
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stephanie saul
9 months
@nytimes sues OpenAI and Microsoft for the unlawful use of our journalism to develop their commercial AI tools.
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Michael M. Grynbaum
9 months
Read The Times's full complaint against OpenAI and Microsoft here:
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stephanie saul
4 years
A story by @DanBarryNYT that could be told in dozens of towns all across the country.
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Dan Barry
4 years
He's the last reporter in Pottstown, Pa., where the once-proud newspaper - now owned by a hedge fund - is operating on fumes and his idealism. What's at stake? Only an informed electorate, government accountability, and a sense of community. My story:
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2 years
I’m so happy that @davidenrich finally told the whole story of Ben Ginsberg’s break from @JonesDay .
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Cory Doctorow NONCONSENSUAL BLUE TICK (AFK)
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Maybe that's what's happened to the law. In his new book "Servants of the Damned: Giant Law Firms, Donald Trump, and the Corruption of Justice," @davidenrich chronicles @JonesDay , the global #BigLaw firm that became an arm of the Trump presidency: 19/
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stephanie saul
4 years
Big news on @nytimes national education coverage. So excited to be working on the team headed up by @jimdao .
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The Grade
4 years
"Other good news: @DanaGoldstein is back ... Tech reporter @natashanyt will continue to help cover education... And @stefsaul is returning... "
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stephanie saul
6 years
“Bannon has blown up and is no longer a factor, but post facto, Uihlein is the answer.” Our look at Liz and Dick Uihlein:
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stephanie saul
5 years
Robert Pear, who has aggressively covered health care for The NYT for decades, walked out of the DC bureau and suffered a massive stroke last week. He died last night. I love it that he worked right up to the end. Here's his last story
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stephanie saul
2 years
Big crowd at McNally Jackson Books tonight listening to ⁦ @waltbogdanich ⁩ and ⁦ @PekingMike ⁩ discussing their new book, When McKinsey Comes to Town.
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stephanie saul
6 years
“I bet you would have liked it if he were younger,” according to her account and another woman who witnessed the exchange. Then he laughed. The latest on Bernie Sanders' campaign from @melbourncoal
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Sydney Ember
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NEW: Claims of sexism during Bernie Sanders's 2016 campaign have surfaced ahead of 2020 bid. "Was it too male? Yes. Was it too white? Yes,” his campaign manager told us. “Would this be a priority to remedy on any future campaign? Definitely." w/ @ktbenner
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In poking fun both @OleMiss (my alma mater) and @michaeloher1809 , Michael Lewis reveals something about his own biases as the son of a New Orleans debutante and the graduate of an elite private high school and university. Thank you for this piece @espiers and @nytimes opinion.
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stephanie saul
1 year
OK, Harvard, it ain't. But as a former "dean's list" scholar at @OleMiss , I find Michael Lewis's comment, cited here, more than a bit offensive.
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stephanie saul
3 years
Since @EricLiptonNYT mentioned Ms., I'll point out the stats in Union County, Ms., where I grew up. Of 28,507 residents, 4,936 have tested positive. Eighty people have died. Yet, even though the vaccine is widely available, only 34.4 percent are vaccinated.
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Eric Lipton
3 years
In Mississippi, where governor has resisted a mandate for masks in public schools, over 4,500 students (& nearly 950 teachers/staff) have tested positive since Aug 9. Roughly 20,000 students, (4.5% of public school population) were in quarantine this past week due to exposure.
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6 years
As McKinsey Sells Advice, Its Hedge Fund May Have a Stake in the Outcome via @NYTimes
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stephanie saul
2 years
Thanks to ⁦ @nytimes ⁩ for fighting in court to force the release of information in this case. It’s time Fox’s reporting on the election and ⁦ @dominionvoting ⁩ is out in the open. Even ⁦ @rupertmurdoch ⁩ himself didn’t believe it.
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stephanie saul
2 years
First on my block with a copy of This Will Not Pass by ⁦ @jmartNYT ⁩ and ⁦ @alexburnsNYT ⁩. My neighbors are jealous.
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6 years
You broke my heart Fredo!
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A disturbing story from @liamstack on the threats to New York's gay community.
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My latest: there is a killer, or maybe more than one, stalking gay bars in NYC. At least 2 men were drugged, robbed using their phone’s facial recognition tech, and killed. More survived similar attacks, most recently on Nov 12. I spoke to 6 survivors.
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Looking forward to ⁦reading @davidmccraw ⁩ and his behind the scenes account of defending @nytimes against libel claims.
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stephanie saul
3 years
Turns out that opposed to so-called "critical race theory" isn't a magic wand that flips suburbs, as Wisconsin Republicans learned Tuesday.
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stephanie saul
3 years
Dick Uihlein's financial support for the Mequon-Thiensville School Board recall isn't the first time he's gotten involved in a local school board election. Mr. Uihlein once bankrolled a school board candidate in Illinois who opposed trans students.
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stephanie saul
4 years
“I’ve read the Gospels a few times, and Jesus spent a lot of time healing the sick,” he said. “Even those with pre-existing conditions.” Great story today by @RichardFausset Can Raphael Warnock Go From the Pulpit to the Senate?
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stephanie saul
6 years
How cool! Some fourth graders held a debate based on one of my stories!
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@stefsaul This debate was based on your article: How Young is Too Young for Protest? A National Gun-Violence Walkout Tests Schools A Great Debate!!
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stephanie saul
9 years
The latest in our reporting on shell companies and real estate focuses on brownstone Brooklyn. #TowersofSecrecy
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stephanie saul
3 years
My reading list is filling up with big books coming from my colleagues on @nytpolitics -- "Insurgency," Feb. 8 by @jwpetersNYT , to be followed in May by "This Will Not Pass," by @jmartNYT and @alexburnsNYT . Look forward to reading, but sincerely hope it does indeed pass.
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6 years
Thrilled to be joining the NYT politics team for 2018!
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NYTimes Communications
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We are pleased to announce members of our Politics team for 2018 — a mix of great veteran political journalists and terrific reporters and editors from a range of desks, led by politics editor @patrickhealynyt
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stephanie saul
9 years
Brooklyn neighborhoods beware. Scam artists are snatching homes with no trace. #TowersofSecrecy #BrownstoneBrooklyn
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stephanie saul
2 years
So excited to read this new book by @maggieNYT that @realDonaldTrump is trashing, coincidentally released on the same day as the new book by my husband @waltbogdanich and @PekingMike "When McKinsey Come to Town." Talk about tough competition!
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Maggie Haberman
2 years
From CONFIDENCE MAN
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stephanie saul
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Excited to watch CBS Sunday Morning today featuring “When McKinsey Comes to Town” by @waltbogdanich and @PekingMike !
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CBS Sunday Morning 🌞
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In their new book, "When McKinsey Comes to Town," New York Times investigative reporters Walt Bogdanich and Michael Forsythe dig inside the consulting firm that, they say, has been a major force for spreading ideas globally, both good and bad.
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stephanie saul
2 years
I know the perfect word. Class.
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Dan Barry
2 years
The great Dean Baquet waves to a standing ovation on his last day as executive editor of The New York Times. @nytimes @deanbaquet
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stephanie saul
6 years
My story today with @PatriciaMazzei and @jmartNYT
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NYT National News
6 years
Many Republican officials from the White House to the Florida state house believe Ron DeSantis, the GOP nominee for governor, has squandered valuable time
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stephanie saul
6 years
My colleagues @miwine and @dannyhakim with an important story on voter suppression:
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stephanie saul
2 years
Disturbing story by ⁦ @DanBarryNYT ⁩ and ⁦ @karenzraick ⁩.
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stephanie saul
7 years
Just google the author and new york times. The whole list of stories will come up.
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stephanie saul
8 years
Good advice for journalists, from a master.
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Joshua L. Jones
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"I believe everything you need for a story is written down somewhere, you just have to find it," Walt Bogdanich #GradyMcGill
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stephanie saul
1 year
Seems our erstwhile exec editor @deanbaquet had the same thought, which I totally agree with.
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Megan Bates-Apper
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"At which point, @HillaryClinton looked up and said simply, 'Fuck the White House Correspondents' dinner.'"
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stephanie saul
6 years
Jho Low, featured in the Towers of Secrecy project I did with @louisestory , figures, once again, in this piece by @waltbogdanich and @pekingmike .
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New York Times World
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At a time when democracies and their basic values are increasingly under attack, McKinsey has helped raise the stature of authoritarian and corrupt governments across the globe.
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stephanie saul
9 years
Should Ivy League tuition be free? A Push to Make Harvard Free Also Questions the Role of Race in Admissions
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stephanie saul
7 years
So much fun to connect this week with students from @DailyCollegian and @PSUunderground and others at PSU.
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The Daily Collegian
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“I am optimistic about this generation and college students. — @nytimes reporter @stefsaul
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stephanie saul
5 years
Thanks to @injusticewatch for this report!
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Christie Ileto
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#BREAKING @PPDCommish says 72 officers have been placed on administrative duty after watch dog group revealed active duty officers were posting racists posts on Facebook. @6abc
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stephanie saul
5 years
While Mr. Biden has said in recent days that he and Mr. Eastland “didn’t agree on much of anything,” it is clear that on a number of important criminal justice issues, they did. A look at Biden on crime by @sherylNYT and @AsteadWesley
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stephanie saul
6 years
Yale Classmate Accuses Kavanaugh of ‘Blatant Mischaracterization’ of His Drinking
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stephanie saul
3 years
Here's our story from 2018 on Dick and Liz Uihlein:
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stephanie saul
3 years
Republican mega-donor Dick Uihlein, a Lake Forest, Ill. mogul I wrote about in 2018, is funding the Mequon-Thiensville School District recall efforts in Ozaukee County, according to newly-filed campaign reports.
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stephanie saul
4 years
A dissection of Georgia's election meltdown, with @reidepstein and @dannyhakim . And what happens in November with those uncounted votes?
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stephanie saul
1 year
These @phillipsacademy folk know what they're talking about. Their recommended list of summer page-turners includes "When McKinsey Comes to Town," by @waltbogdanich and @PekingMike .
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Phillips Academy
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What's on your summer reading list? Take a look at what page-turners our faculty and staff recommend, and share your own in the comments!
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stephanie saul
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Ida B. Wells and other women whose deaths were overlooked by The New York Times are finally getting the obituaries they deserved. Thanks ot @itscaitlinhd and others.
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stephanie saul
2 years
A taste of what's coming in your forthcoming book, "When McKinsey Comes to Town," @PekingMike .
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Mike Forsythe 傅才德
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JUST POSTED: At least 22 McKinsey consultants advising the FDA had also done work for OxyContin maker Purdue Pharma, in some instances simultaneously, newly released documents show. With ⁦ @ChrisDHamby ⁩ ⁦ @waltbogdanich ⁩ ⁦ @jenvalentino
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stephanie saul
4 years
Congrats to my colleagues @mmcintire @susannecraig and @russbuettner on this award acknowledging the transformative nature of their reporting!
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George Polk Awards
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Polk Award for Financial Reporting: Russ Buettner, Susanne Craig and Mike McIntire of The New York Times for accessing and analyzing a trove of Donald Trump’s income tax information, providing insight into why he went to great lengths to hide it from the public view.
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stephanie saul
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The coolest funeral procession ever in Oxford. I'm sure he has 50-yard-line seats in heaven.
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stephanie saul
6 years
Wow. Latest poll shows Gillum way ahead in Florida governor's race. Let's see what happens in tonight's debate.
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John Harwood
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wow Gillum +12 over DeSantis. Nelson +5 over Scott
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A California College Tries to Shield an Entire City From Coronavirus
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stephanie saul
5 years
It's actually easy to write 10,000 words. What's hard is to write tight.
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stephanie saul
1 year
OK, Harvard, it ain't. But as a former "dean's list" scholar at @OleMiss , I find Michael Lewis's comment, cited here, more than a bit offensive.
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stephanie saul
6 years
Why are we outsourcing our most important job? My colleague @danagoldstein explains:
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stephanie saul
2 years
Do you charge for this service?
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Typos of the New York Times
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@nytimes "again" is a typo for "against" in "all 24 charges again him," @stefsaul .
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stephanie saul
6 years
Potential ramifications of immigration rule changes -- you won't be able to find a caregiver for your disabled relatives. Thanks to @mirjordan :
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stephanie saul
3 years
Fun to coin a new usage!
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Typos of the New York Times
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@nytimes "another American suburbia" is a grammatical error of sorts in your lede, @stefsaul . Suburbia is a collective noun, not a singular. This is like saying "another the suburbs," or "I bought another furniture."
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stephanie saul
6 years
So excited that Pizza Rat is back!
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Michael Scott Courant
6 years
I JUST SAW PIZZA RAT! I repeat: I JUST SAW #PizzaRat ! #Blessed
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stephanie saul
3 years
Even as cases climb in my home state …
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Laura Santhanam
3 years
State college board votes against requiring COVID-19 vaccine for Mississippi universities as cases climb
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stephanie saul
2 years
The inner workings of one of the world’s most secretive and profitable companies will soon be public knowledge thanks to @PekingMike and my favorite reporter @waltbogdanich !
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Mike Forsythe 傅才德
2 years
BOOK ANNOUNCEMENT! - In the works for more than 4 years, @waltbogdanich and I are proud that @doubledaybooks will publish "When McKinsey Comes to Town" on Oct. 4. This THREAD offers a sneak peak (and pre-order info!)
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stephanie saul
10 years
And the real estate email said "Kabul." Who is that? The latest in my work with Louise Story #TowersofSecrecy http://t.co/xm33Fpi5ck
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stephanie saul
3 years
I can report that Ikeria Washington will be attending the University of Southern Mississippi this fall and that Layla Temple will be attending East Mississippi Community College. Congratulations to both!
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tedreednc
3 years
@nytimes @stefsaul Sometimes Yale and Harvard go after these kids. Sometimes the best university in the state, in this case UMississippi, grab them. It is always tough to get in to the top state university. So a good indicator of who these kids are As a reporter I would address this in my story.
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stephanie saul
6 years
Could this be the commencement appearance of the year?
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New York Post
6 years
Bloomberg warns of ‘endless barrage of lies’ in politics
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stephanie saul
2 years
Thanks for your comments @arnavbinaykia and @nyunews !
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stephanie saul
8 years
A must watch: Long-Term Parking, via @nytimes
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stephanie saul
5 years
“Simply put, the women of Alpha Kappa Alpha have forged paths and led in just about every space imaginable,” Just not, yet, in the space Kamala Harris is imagining: the White House, A look at Senator Harris's potent secret force in the presidential race.
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stephanie saul
5 years
Mansplaining, manterrupting and and intrusive interrupting, or why the men butted in during the Democratic debate:
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stephanie saul
6 years
In Wisconsin. My first stop is for a butter burger @culvers !
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stephanie saul
6 years
Blast furnace is right! He once worked in the steel mill!
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John Ettorre
6 years
Bogdanich, who worked at 2 Cleveland papers, the P.D. and the defunct Press, is possibly the most dogged investigative reporter now working in the country. He's won 3 Pulitzers. I had the good fortune to get a brief taste of his blast furnace intensity once. It was unforgettable.
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