Sell your
#Bitcoin
, pay ~20% cap gains, lose your allocation and the associated appreciation.
Borrow against your
#Bitcoin
, pay a small APR, write-off the interest payments, keep stacking Sats, rinse and repeat.
Rule
#20
- You do NOT Sell your
#Bitcoin
!
@kryptospheroid
Next time just say you’re allocating to the best risk adjusted asset with the highest sharpe ratio over the past decade, then they’ll be onboard (it’s still Bitcoin 😂)
@Giovann35084111
@saylor
Pretty ironic the guy who made “all your models will be destroyed” popular is now getting on the model train. Proof of (your) work Gio!
@HodlMagoo
You know what would grow retail demand? Doing something useful that Unchained and River and others don't do......like, borrowing against your BTC?
@tomyoungjr
@Sean_Welsh1
@dotkrueger
These models are great but they don’t include the lending strategies or tools one would use on the financial end. I’d love to give you some education about our firm and why our customers have been borrowing confidently from us since 2016. If you’re interested.
@thomas_fahrer
@Seb5150
At what point does the OTC supply-chain run dry? I know they work a bit under the radar and have lots of whales in their rolodex, but eventually even those sources get tired of taking discounts when they could just let the price rip and sell on the open market, right?
@dotkrueger
AI as an investment confuses me. If businesses use AI to hire fewer people, who will earn the money people need to buy the goods and services companies produce? Efficiency and productivity are great, but GDP is based on demand being met, not supply being created. Am I dumb? 🥴
@JoeCarlasare
Power Laws in nature correlate at 100% forever, that's the best argument you would have against BTC as a power law. But as a C student who was stoked on the occasional B-, I am personally pretty bullish on something correlating at 97% for 15 years! What am I missing?
@mikealfred
Harris is probably a better choice for BTC. She'll increase spending and deficits, leading to more inflation. And she'll increase taxes which will limit job growth. So more debt with less GDP and jobs = lower confidence in US debt instruments which will require higher rates to
@dotkrueger
@tomyoungjr
@Sean_Welsh1
I can do you one better and get our CEO to join such a call to share more about the company and disruptive vision we have for the future. We want to make borrowing against your BTC a simple integrated part of tradfi and web3 experiences, and have the tech to do it.
@mikealfred
@last_to_crypto
This is a struggle with my family, I pose questions about radical left ideas which are clearly bankrupting the planet and they immediately assume I've switched to MAGA. Tribalism is too nuanced for most to understand indeed, especially when they are who have fallen victim to it.
@GlennTestelmans
@Vivek4real_
So he knew Satoshi would have 1M BTC only a week after he created it, and he knew those 21M would never make it back into the available supply, thus refers to said supply as 20M instead of 21M? Very interesting...
@rajatsonifnance
Maybe, but until then people who want to store their economic energy in 25% CAGR instead of -7% via fiat, will need a way to get local currency to engage in local commerce without selling their
#Bitcoin
@rajatsonifnance
A way to use math to represent this idea - divide any asset class or index by M2 growth in the same period and see what the true appreciation was.
@mikealfred
🤣 Mike Alfred FTW!!!
M2 gonna rip and Fannie/Freddie gonna give out $1T in home equity cash to homeowners. Inflation might end up ripping again before end of 2025 but markets are def going to rip prior!
@hodl_adu
Get yourself some NAs, that helped me tremendously when I took a 3 year break. It helped me realize it wasn't the alcohol my body was used to, it was more the taste, repetition, time of day, day of week, social aspect, etc.
@dotkrueger
@BodiCan35
OMG who was it? I cut bait on that group of grifters and scammers a long time ago so it's always funny to hear about HEX and Pulse, can't believe anyone pays attention to that garbage.
@BritishHodl
Power Law data is represented in exponentials, so even if an event like this caused price to move up by a magnitude of 2 or 3, the sell action would normalize it just as fast. When Power Laws correlate at 100% they are considered fact.
#Bitcoin
is at 97% for 15 years, not bad!
@BritishHodl
We're creating some very low APR offers for Mt Gox recipients to help the BTC market avoid a large selloff, to help individuals avoid taxable events, and to help more people HODL their
#Bitcoin
. As
@saylor
said in Prague via rule
#20
, "You do NOT sell your Bitcoin!"
@CarlBMenger
We're launching a 0-3% promo APR to help Gox recipients (and other BTC holders) borrow against their
#Bitcoin
instead of selling it and creating large taxable events which could cost as much as 30%, or more. Learn about the benefits of borrowing instead of selling!
@sunny051488
Polite disagree, everyone has a price and everyone likes making money. As we approach 6 figures, everyone's tune will change and all will become
#Bitcoin
fans. This will be the steepening in the S-Curve between 10% over 10 years, to 90% after 20 years.
@dotkrueger
We check all those boxes and we’re working on a no liquidation product. Would love to tap into you and your audience for feedback Fred, get us on the show soon. We have COOL stuff in the hopper!
@heresyfinancial
Reminds me of how my cargo shorts went from being all the rage one day, to complete trash the next. Cant keep up with he kids and all their hip trends these days.
@dotkrueger
We're about to launch a 0-3% APR loan program for all the Gox recipients (and any Bitcoin holder!), so it'll be exponentially cheaper for them to keep their
#Bitcoin
and borrow against it than to sell it and incur a cap gains tax of 20%, or more. Stay tuned!
@HHorsley
Banks cant even allocate to
#Bitcoin
yet, imagine what happens once the US adopts something similar to MiCA and banks can start holding BTC at a 1:1 capital reserve ratio. Some of them will stop lending to consumers entirely and simply allocate to Bitcoin!
We're soo early...
@rajatsonifnance
This is because 100 Hours is too much for most people, hence I recommend "Why Bitcoin" by Chris McLaughlin. It's 100 Hours but the 100 minute TLDR version
@luke_broyles
@PeterSchiff
Peter not wrong about Gold, he just ran into a better form of it. He's Phil Mickelson during the early 2000s, ran into Tiger Woods. He's Charles Barkley in the 90s, ran into MJ. He's basically every female tennis player over the past 15 years, trying to defeat Serena Williams.
@Ni95057388G
@cryptoml21
@dotkrueger
@BritishHodl
@Giovann35084111
Correct, and in nature the correlation is 100% due to the fact it is a law of nature and mathematics. This is why it's so fascinating to see 96% correlation in something like Bitcoin which is manmade, social, and not part of nature.
@CarlBMenger
I think the AI productivity concept is misguided. Supply doesn’t equal demand, regardless how efficiently the widgets are produced. People with money to spend is what moves the GDP needle.
@dotkrueger
Love your stuff Fred, I see you're going to be at BTC Nashville and I'd love to say hi. Swing by the SALT Lending booth if you get a chance! We're doing some cool stuff to enable HODLers to uphold
@Saylor
rule
#20
from BTC Prague, "You do NOT Sell your
#Bitcoin
"
@FMTadvisory
@saylor
People conflate looking back and citing facts as looking ahead and positing theories. S-Curve, "trust me bro," etc, are forward looking theories which might be true, but until then we can use Power Law to look back and talk about FACTS. There's no debate.
@mikealfred
Long bonds are short equities or risk assets right? So when we see bond rates decline sharply ahead of rates, is that not also an indication of recession fears, or broader macro level fears?
@jtjt008
@dotkrueger
And producers accept human want as currency, or do those humans need money to obtain the goods/services in question? Where’s the increased amount of money coming from if fewer people are working due to AI enabled productivity and efficiency gains? Are the robots also consumers
@saylor
Big Guy, love your work, thanks for the Orange Pill!
You're disruptive and innovative, but Orange Checkmarks is hardly a blip on the disruptive radar. Time to get into traditional finance and start backing
#Bitcoin
as pristine collateral for loans. Call me 📞
@heresyfinancial
But most people live check to check and have no savings, thus keeping them out of the Bitcoin economy. This is why BTC rewards checking is necessary, and why we need more BTC bulls to back this product/idea to bring it forward to everyday wage earners.
@schulzzy
I suggested this and got roasted, it was pretty comical. But I agree, if BTC is long entropy and chaos and USD decline, why not elect the president who accelerates and amplifies the impact? The runaway train has no brakes at this point, so might as well hit the gas.
@BTC_for_Freedom
-Level 9: 140% net worth in BTC, feeding family daily orange pill (most of whom think I am on drugs), and left former 20 year career to join BTC Finance Co.
@rajatsonifnance
It will never absorb the value of everything, but there's certainly a debate about how much that "monetary premium" is worth, and how big of a shift we see from those asset classes mentioned, into
#Bitcoin
@btcwojak
Do people learn about chemo or other treatments before getting diagnosed with Cancer? Do they cut out sugar and focus on a balanced diet before getting diagnosed with Diabetes?
Some people are proactive, most are reactive and tune in once it becomes existentially necessary.
@Eros280400
@mclauclin1
@thomas_fahrer
@Seb5150
I think the reality is that OTC desks have as much BTC as they can convince whales to sell to them, so there's really no way to know what their inventory or access looks like. But we know it wont last long!
@Boomstick44
"Why Bitcoin" by Chris McLaughlin. It's 100 hours in 100 minutes. I've read all the books and this one was by far the easiest, lightest, and fastest, and thus far has proven to create intrigue with many of my friends and family.
@LnAmbassador
@Giovann35084111
@BritishHodl
Yeah, I unfollowed the bald turd, guy has proven to be a useless puppet at the end of twitter validation strings looking for attention. He brings no useful perspectives, data, or content, just his own bias infused boredom manifesting itself on Twitter every day. Poor guy 😂
@BritishHodl
Wait until FIT21 impacts are better understood and discussed in mainstream channels, and wait until Power Law wins the debate vs S2F and other data, math, or scientific theories trying to predict
#Bitcoin
price over time. 97% 15 year correlation isn't hard to understand.
@LawrenceLepard
Most Americans believe inflation is simply a part of life, no different than the sky being blue or water being wet. This is why I have tried to educate my family on the basics of the system via "Why Bitcoin," written by Chris McLaughlin. 100 hours done in 100 minutes!
@BobLji
Those guys are focused on lending to institutions and rich people. If you're an everyday person looking to borrow against your BTC,
@SALTLending
is a great option. We been making it fast and easy since 2016.
@jtjt008
@dotkrueger
Farming more food to feed a booming population was a great use of technology to meet demand. Tesla, Samsung, Apple, etc, doubling production for the same number of people with less disposable income to spend will be diluting profits due to surplus. Supply does not equal demand.
@invest_answers
AI productivity = more output
More output = More GDP
Show me where more GDP is possible without consumption going up, then show me how consumption goes up if less labor is required by companies due to AI productivity. I am confused...
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@jtjt008
@dotkrueger
Your last sentence is EXACTLY why I struggle with the AI productivity concept, because a reduced labor force will create less demand for the very products and services companies produce, regardless if they produced them more efficiently.
@Adrian_R_Morris
We're actually toying with this concept at SALT, but still early innings. Anyone in this MSTR group you think could offer insights or answer some basic questions for me?
@fancyrichdoge
Even better.
25% CAGR on BTC
12% Interest Only to borrow against it
Buy more corn, get a loan against it, do the reno whilst stacking mas sats, live the dream 😎
@phil_geiger
@willcole
@unchainedcom
@SALTLending
Wasn't trying to mislead anyone with false information, I thought the post was in regard to Lending and that was what I was responding to. I see now it was around Trading so I will happily and humbly delete the comment, my apologies.
@BobLji
I'm ~8 books and probably 3,000+ hours of podcasts, videos, online research, etc, into
#Bitcoin
, so I totally get it. But I'm a technology guy so I also see a great deal of value in Smart Contracts, DeFi, and other blockchain innovations which can help people.
@PrestonPysh
After reading close to 10 books on
#Bitcoin
and its benefits, I recently discovered "Why Bitcoin" was the best gateway drug I could get for friends and family due to how light, fast, and to the point it is with the key details.
@saylor
says 100 hours, this book is 100 minutes.
@sunny051488
Power Law is a histogram with data plotted against time. Some use it to suggest what will happen, most use it to see what actually happened.
Humble people are comfortable being wrong if 96% correlation falls dramatically. But "trust me bro" is such a horrible alternative.
@bitcoinofficesv
Because Bitcoin is legal tender, does that mean it is not used as a collateral asset for lending purposes, or how do banks and other Salvadorian lenders treat it in that regard?
@Adrian_R_Morris
@saylor
Hard to disrupt a market which you are middle of the pack and competing with the giants, even with your innovative
#Bitcoin
strategy. But allocating resources and funds to support BTC backed loans in the tradfi space? That's disruptive front page news.
@WealthAutonomy
@Invested_In_You
@JJsFinclub
@lindsaystamp3
Everything carries risk, I was simply observing BTC's dominant Sharpe ratio. I've been borrowing against my BTC for a couple years maintaining a 2+ health factor and 30-40% LTV. Zero liquidations, haven't even come close.
@Giovann35084111
@Hanakookie1
Let's make it. Step 1 is assembling all the relevant facts and data about Power Law, which I think you've done. Step 2 is looking at Power Laws and their history to understand when or how often models have been wrong, what those rates are, etc. Let's get that data.
@OffshoreHODL
Runaway interest ballooning deficits and eroding confidence in our debt has been an effective way to orange pill people lately. They seem to understand the debt doom loop and why a hard cap of 21M is a great alternative to the nonstop debasement of the USD.