It's actually well sustained by many scholars that the ancients did not have an inner sense similar to ours, that the subject of ancient greece was otherwise individuated. JP Vernant argues that there is no inner-monolog in the Iliad. Achilles for example, when he stops himself
from killing Agamemnon sees the personification of wisdom, Athena, next to him, holding his sword. Similarly Ortega yGasset argues in a heideggerian fashion that interiority is a characteristic of the post-cartezian subject,the greck did not have a private world. St. Augustine..
All of this I had to learn in my first year as an undergrad actually lol, but If I remember the texts are:
Vernant: "aspect de la personne dans la religion grecque" but also in all his worka
Ortega y Gasset: "what is philosophy"
Augustine "Confessions"
@TelosOfHoudini
Rather Ortega argues that they did not make a conceptual difference between outside and inside, it's Vernant that analyzes the concept of propriety in ancient greece. The whole post is a mess when it comes to how I formulated it
I read this book on Deleuze's three synthesis of time while on amphetamines. Has like 300 notes, finished it in 2 days, can't remember a thing. Moment I realized I'm not about that life
@defOYtrust
Yes, I know. Can't say I agree with him though. His theory is correlational, as in he's right about the facts but he was philosophically illiterate unfortunately and so he just makes guesses
@TelosOfHoudini
Rather Ortega argues that they did not make a conceptual difference between outside and inside, it's Vernant that analyzes the concept of propriety in ancient greece. The whole post is a mess when it comes to how I formulated it
@sl0thentr0py
yeah it's a funny thing about deleuze's legacy that most of his successors either use the exact same conceptual terminology as him (going against his concept creation thing) or are original thinkers who in the process go against his whole philosophy
If you travel a bit through europe you learn to tell the politics of a country by the number of books on Jung for any book on Lacan in any given library
@alex_orlov_
Actually any assertion that subjectivity is an unchanging universal form of "interiority" outside of hisyorical bounds is not only unfounded but straight up theological
@pachabelcanon
This conception of thinking is my favorite thing about Deleuze, but one thing you seem to have gotten wrong is that stupidity isnt one and the same with the image of thought, in fact it is stupidity that is actually the "highest power of thought".
Wrestled with him for years like Jacob with God's angel. In the end I realized everything that attracted and interested me in him had it's roots in Kant. He is a Kant with a spirit of adventure.
The crazy thing is Im not even particularly attached to this view, the thread was about sharing that this is a genuine perspective on things. Cornelius Castoriadis for example is one of my favorite thinkers and in his seminars on ancient greece gives a counterargument to
It's actually well sustained by many scholars that the ancients did not have an inner sense similar to ours, that the subject of ancient greece was otherwise individuated. JP Vernant argues that there is no inner-monolog in the Iliad. Achilles for example, when he stops himself
@matthiasellis
The posts is my reaction to the fact that some people in todays age don't have an inner monologue, that itself is hard to believe and yet
At least the tumblr girls, through the subtle metaphysical recognition and exploration of the differential/indeterminate groundlessness that lies as the foundation of our given identities, attempted to do something genuine, btw
got internet again after 3 weeks, been trying to tweet something all day but Im too drunk and it's all incomprehensible...started reading this. the girl who gave it to me a while ago placed a tab of acid every 50 pages, im on 75, the highway is calling me
Life is a tumor grown out of calm nothingness. Existence, itself traumatic. It experiences itself as a souring ache that keeps on growing the more it fights against itself, that feels the need to fight against itself, that expands against itself
@pachabelcanon
It is the inefficiency of representational cognition to think its own pre-conceptual ground as pure difference that makes the strife towards the intensive limit of concepts and the possibility to think otherwise, to think the new, possible in the first place!
How funny is it that out of everyone it was Heidegger that made a point about how nothing of a philosophers life is of importance. I wonder if all our lives are full of those ironic slips of the unconscious
It'd be a shame to stop yourself from thinking thoroughly a philosophy, an idea, or method, simply because it’s been already critiqued. Let thought unfold itself naturally. In the end, you’d still learn vastly more meaningful things than someone jumping from critique to critiq
The brightest flowers of the 68 generation have slowly faded away without seeing a real way out and maybe worse, without the dignity of knowing certain defeat. Their hope a burden to carry further
Consolidates the view that we're just a highly schizophrenic species hallucinating as we free fall our way through space. Stuff like the objectivity of AI doesn't matter. For some it's already here, for others it will never be. All depending on the webs of meaning we're caught in
I was planning to stay home and pity-tweet my way through the holidays drunk and lonely but then I got invited to Amsterdam and now I have nothing to complain about. Having friends is really detrimental to the poster experience
the average person will scoff at this then go through a cycle of doing this exact same thing for the next 50 years or settle down because of circumstances
not to start boring discourse but I'm genuinely curious: how do you guys date someone and still be attracted to them? doesn't someone explicitly admitting they like you defuse the tension necessary for attraction? am I just avoidant or otherwise fucked up?
It feels so painful going outside in the afternoon after spending all day inside taking drugs, wasting away, and everything around you feels so alive, there's such an overbearing vitality in nature, and everything smells of sex. Why is this my life
All of you who scoffed at that guy burning himself, in a morally superior leftist way, are freaks. Just wanted to say.
Any political ideal you supposedly uphold is deformed by your repulsiveness
I'm reading this short book on Plato's Republic. Academics will always scoff when people criticize the Republic. It's common to go on tangents about its hidden complexity (the polis represents the soul, etc). But this is the first unpretentious, thought-provoking reading I found
A fascinating recurring Reddit phenomenon is someone seeking advice from a technical forum on an unusual situation, then a commenter correctly diagnoses OP as experiencing hallucinations or delusions which they are trying to make sense of.
Romanticism was justly critiqued by the end of the 19th century but, and this is an unorthodox claim, the antithesis of romantic literature, of the naive impetus to give up your life for your beliefs, is liberalism, the abstract free-speech with no consequences of the last man1
literally all 3 of my points (the problem being that he himself has an unsustainable view of subjectivity imo)
But it was fascinating to see the way people react, you stay to much in an enclosed space and forget how sensitive the average person is to having their philosopical
I know very well how sleazy the self help/pop-stoicism industry is. But, its not unreasonable to be sensible and emphatise with its victims. Even the corporate bro that buys into it does it out of a sense of spiritual poverty, and the desperate need to escape it
obviously this will never work because it's a very surface understanding of subjects as these lil bundle of rational facts, this more likely to leave people traumatized when faced with the fragile illusion of who they are and what they desire... which could be fun in its own way
@lint_ax
The way some people post without giving any kind context out of some kind of fear of ruining the quality of the tweet and just leave ppl hanging in the replies is genuinely psychopathic and pathetic.
im so petty now that it doesn't say who likes what I go through like a thousand likes just to find the mutuals responsible for putting shit on my timeline
All of this I had to learn in my first year as an undergrad actually lol, but If I remember the texts are:
Vernant: "aspect de la personne dans la religion grecque" but also in all his worka
Ortega y Gasset: "what is philosophy"
Augustine "Confessions"
@sl0thentr0py
honestly like I think the acid horizon guys wrote a good book on cybernetics recently. I found it randomly in a library here and skimmed through it, it's quite fun, they're deleuze pilled and came up with some useful concepts of their own
@pachabelcanon
I have a folder in which I place all the books I've read but strangely enough, I can't find it anymore. It must've been Faulkner "Deleuze and the Three Syntheses of Time", but I can't be certain
Idk why everyone on my tl is talking about computationalism but if I were to add something is that when it will be its turn to the grave, like mechanism, behaviorism, etc, before it nothing will be learned from it
There will always be an analogous metaphysics of the current thing
"You're going to complete the system of german idealism through your unique and innovative postmodern interpretation? Haha, yeah totally bro. Anyways I think you should try reading this"
Check it out: Kant for Children has a cover! Did you know Salomo Friedlaender wrote a book about Kant's moral philosophy that was geared toward kids? He did! Bruce has done the first English translation of it.
@h_blaubear
Tbh It's crazy to me how many things I took for granted because of my uni's culture. Everyone here is either a heideggerian/hermeneuticist well versed in witt or an analytic well versed in heidegger. Like I thought this was canon
Leftist w. males are cucked because to understand the minoritatian perspective you have to be able to see your white identity reduced to a caricature just like it reduces others.
RWers are cucked because they repress and fear being caricatured and so end up sexually enjoying it.
The problem with anti-metaphysics sentiments is that in their impediment to live a life "without a why" and avoid the violence of metaphysics, they themselves have no power left against those who'd rather just use this metaphysical violence to shape the world instead
this is basically what going to the gym is, you're paying to sit in a playground area where you get to feel productive for doing 3 movements for an hour and grunt at each other. It's why most gym goers are either office workers or teen boys who need it the most
They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, unless you've been doing it for 2000 years+ in which case you're a philosopher
Have there been science fiction writers, etc, who wrote science fiction, or did worldbuilding, in a way that draws on theory/philosophy? eg. Deleuze, Derrida, Baudrillard, Benjamin etc
all my friends deactivated twitter. I can't but feel an engulfing wave of sadness over it, but also, a sense of freedom. finally I can be at peace with my inner contradictions, finally I can post cringe
When you get stuck into an identity-based logic of victimhood, in which a certain group becomes this sacred thing, detached from the reality of power relations and the sheer brutality of life, you end up like the germans
If western leftists actually wanted to galvanize the working class, the first thing they’d do is say “I can furnish a mathematical proof for the existence of an Illuminati Conspiracy”— a direct quote from Capital volume 3: “Here, then, we have a mathematically precise proof why
Inspired by the platonic concept of Chora, Aristotle first called matter the maleable substrate that determines every concrete thing but is itself indeterminate. Therefore, as any formulation of what goes beyond objects to what determines them, materialism remains a metaphysics
I don't think concepts are completely innocent of their future iterations. If it's been reappropiated by certain unsavory types, chances are it's because it always presented the opportunity. Going full "☝️🤓" on the (re) definition of accelerationism for example is just coping
In the last month, almost every european country has come out with a statement amounting to "be prepared for a possible war". The reason? Putin is gonna attack us all, the guy who is in a stalemate in Ukraine. It seems more likely that Europe is preparing for some real nazi shit
This makes sense when you think that she was basically born in the era of the greatest discoveries in physics, when it felt that science was finally going to grasp the absolute. Thankfully, a hundred years later we're still debating what colors are
why study philosophy at all? once the "queen of the sciences" it has been, not surpassed, but rendered irrelevant by more specialized fields of inquiry (linguistics, neuroscience, etc.). however, to not have read Plato, Aristotle, the pre-Socratics, Lucretius, is a disadvantage