@girllwithluv
Fast food nature of kpop means fans also loose interest in older acts and are constantly chasing the next novel thing.
Even if companies invest in older acts - the results are often not equal to debuting new.
@Dreamscatlegend
Only fans who hate them would feel like this. They both debuted in 127 which was their permanent unit for years. Of course they feel proud and attached to it. Doesn’t mean they don’t take being in dream seriously. For them - it’s all the same group
@Ieejaesungs
@jirong0305
Y’all now counting ending fairies. This is the gateway to akgaedom. Ending fairy is arbitrarily chosen by the music show pd. Also mark and Jaemin have no lines. Y’all can’t even let them have ending fairy 😂….
@younguenie
Also didn’t have the benefit of a superstar senior group with a fanbase excited to support the only debuted kpop group from their company at that time. Skz and txt privilege are not on same level at all. Skz fanbase was built from the ground.
Not surprising most of the likes by the same subfandom. Y’all reek of insecurity. It’s why u keep screaming about how renjun and chenle supposedly can’t sing (lies). If mr sunshine was so much better you wouldn’t need to scream as much 😂. Stay pressed we love to see it.
dreamzens do not actually like mark. They are intensely jealous of him and only care when they can use him to prop up their faves. I actually hope he’s seeing these tweets so he can reconsider sacrificing his health and artistic growth for this group.
@jaesunger
@jirong0305
If jeno is singing that part then there’s no reason why he shouldn’t be the centre there. It’s not like he has that much screen time either. Y’all could have sat there and ate your food but u came with this dumb take
Make no mistake. This is exactly what sfs want. The more big accounts of the other members close - the less strong their subfandom is. Haechan’s akgaes are cunning.
cannot believe you guys ran 0802lees off the app the standards you guys hold these translator accounts to is ridiculous. these ppl r performing free labor for Your convenience and you repay their kindness and hardwork by conspiring against them and constantly policing them? omfg
Also this take on a song with is universally critically appreciated tells me all I need to know about both your music taste and level of intellectual sophistication. But yeah burnt out akgae who is unstanning because she cannot parasocially success stan is no loss to haechan.
As someone who’s faves were haechan & mark; even I am getting sick of sfs and their maliciousness. Y’all just turning the whole fandom against him instead of advocating for him like you think you are. So nasty and for what….
Sfs like you only end up turning decent fans off haechan with this behaviour. The fact that this got 200+ likes from fellow sfs is an indictment on the state of your subfandom.
I hope you find peace.
You have a history of reactionary bad faith and judgemental takes. I remember an incident where you threw mark under the bus. I hope you’ve learnt a lesson this time. You certainly do not deserve threats so I wish you the best.
Dreamzens really dumb AF. Y’all wonder why you don’t get any content when all you do is camp here creating controversy out of thin air. You better go outside and get some hobbies.
Yunjin from le sserrafim, a 4th gen rookie idol has more solo releases than mark a 7yr idol. The issue is that sm is not investing in the personal development of nct members enough not that mark is “doing all of it” because he should be doing more tbh.
@markittys
I’m glad others are noticing. They’ve been weird for a while now. They enjoy savagely attacking other dream members talking about how haechan is the only talented one and are resentful anytime mark is praised or acknowledged
the whole concert they’re ONLY RECORDING HAECHAN and if he wasn’t on stage they just sat and looked bored. the pushing was horrendous and to the point where i was like…i’m gonna pass out or smth.
No one actually wants you to do that. Just leave each other in peace and stop your character assassinations against members of units you don’t like. This goes both ways - dreamzens and 127zens alike.
Nctzens have to realize that forcing unit stans to stan the whole brand WOULDN'T WORK because of lotsa reasons. Obvious unfairness when it comes to management and treatment on top of that + they all have different styles so it's really just based on someone's personal preference.
Your dumbass just setting up dream and allows 127 to make unfavourable comparisons. Except mark/haechan that group is full of filler members who weren’t talented enough to make it into 127. Sit down!
@BTSxHaechan
@IeehoIic
If haechan was as talented as you believe he is; y’all wouldn’t feel so threatened to be tweeting stuff like this. Karma will round you up soon. I’ll anticipate it
@girllwithluv
It’s why idols that are in it for music need to invest in building their artistry so they can carve their own path post group…sunmi is a good example.
Haechan’s akgaes are useless. You got an nct lab and let that flop…yet here you are acting like crabs in a barrel over an interview that haechan isn’t even suitable for 🤷🏼♀️
@sambart1902
If you are a dream fan why are you even bringing this up and ruining the mood. With fans like you who needs antis. And why do trouble makers always have the renjun dp. Free that man.
@pinkblood_66
Hey haechan akgae. Why don’t you change your username instead of using marks name to try to taint his reputation while you display your obvious sadness and dysfunction on this app.
It is clear to me that a lot of you “fans” aren’t actually here for the music. NCT127 just released a great album - go listen to that instead of creating drama. You are picking at peoples words to find a reason to be offended.
It is not normal behaviour to excessively fixate on one member of a group to the point you start to hate the others. What is good for one is good for all. Get help
“Everyone's been blinded by envy & jealousy, without realizing that they're putting shackles on each other"
#Haegeum
A perfect description of the NCT fandom. Putting shackles on the members.
@haechanprism
Cherry picking tweets are we? You know damn well that’s not the tweet this user was referring to. You toxic sfs seem to not have the will to moderate your behavior but you will no longer be allowed to poison the fanbase with your toxicity unchecked.
@214yongss
@hyckgasm
There may have been an initial “valid” reason but the level of hate and vitriol directed at those 2 shows this clearly has nothing to do with “educating” them.
@watermelonctz
This is very on brand for dreamzens/solo stans of dream members. They’ve spent the last 3 years deceiving themselves that he’s unpopular, touting fake charts and merch sales that they now believe their own propaganda.
Mark has an unassuming charm to him + he’s naturally handsome in a boy next door kinda way. Not surprising that his female peers would be into him. I don’t get the “loser” allegations.
@tuIipmarks
It’s intentional. SM has no respect or regard. He’s in the phase of them sidelining him prolly cos he’s started to complain. They will use him up and throw him away like they do all their acts while wasting his talent and draining him of joy. Sad…
It’s not even serious but some of y’all in quote retweets are giving underhanded comments. Dreamzens are just ot5 in disguise except when they can use mark to prop up their faves. Next time chenle and renjun getting ate up I won’t say nothing.
This is maybe my pessimistic overthinking self talking, but i sometimes think that some of the people in that company don’t support aespa at all and probably dislike them. I can see they openly support other groups but when it come to aespa, they don’t even want to talk about it
@Dreamscape0608
@AngelHarts44
And if dreamzens aren’t careful..this future awaits them too. To their credit there are more ot7s than akgaes but you allow toxics to talk for too long and they drive sane fans away.
Idiots like you need to be scrubbed from the fandom. The group needs more fans to grow and keep up. All are welcome including any 127 fans who are interested enough to go to a concert.
You put it diplomatically. Rather dreamzens were too focused on their competition with 127 to realise that the real competition is groups their age that they’ll be promoting with for next 5 yrs. Smnbg coming too so good luck with that.
since i've been monitoring and tracking nct dream's streams/sales since last year, it came to my mind the reason why we're not generally good streamers is because the fandom grew up having worries about the system more than build up a sense of competition to catch up with others.
To be fair. I actually don’t get those vibes off them. However, haechan’s akgaes peddled the lie that jokes of this nature among them carried ill intent not just boys being boys….so yeah they can choke while he gets dragged for the same.
@CEOMarkLee
Their comments were borderline irritating. It’s normal but reminds you of that friend who gives and gives and everyone starts taking them for granted.
@nickajames
Seems like they are trying to pivot away from the “experimental”/ inaccessible sound that people complained about… but the result is too safe and middle of the road.
They shouldn’t have scrapped the album they already made just cos it was lsm work. Modify it and release the best songs as an EP while working on a new album. They are losing momentum everyday while they stay fallow like this. It’s sad.
atp ive lost all hope on aespa’s may comeback and just comeback as a whole when the teasers drop they will drop this is so exhausting but imma stay here because i know none of this is our girls fault and they wanna do more but sm is stopping them
One thing Taeyong is always going to is to adjust his choreo energy & difficulty level to his partners so they can shine. He does not want to take attention away.
We’re not insecure weirdos who think a fun song that is solely a vehicle for artistic expression is a threat is a fully promoted company backed album… so nah markfs will never be in your position. Maybe it says something about his talent that you crabs are so threatened.
@Astereiks
With Riize new song and promo; the writing is on the wall for dream. Don’t be so quick to throw away NCT. The only legacy those guys have in kpop is uniqueness of Neo sound.
The fanbase is divided and always has been. 127s lack of growth is because of a shitty fanbase full of solo stans who refuse to support wholeheartedly. It’s why 17 has the career they do and nct doesn’t. That isn’t dreams fault either so leave them alone.
And when exposed instead of taking responsibility for his actions he shifted the entire blame on his ex girlfriend. I stopped being a fan at that point.
he was awfully rude, disrespectful, sabotaged her, cold, basically humiliated her, unprofessional, unlikeable and yet she was kind enough to smile and face those cameras like nothing was happening..... he getting exposed and dragged was so deserved
@CEOMarkLee
Big clowns. They take the price for worst kpop fandom because instead of fighting others - they attack and try to destroy the reputation of the group. 7th sense is the originator of the 4th gen bg sound and one of the most innovative kpop choreos ever.
An opportunity to create unity was to ensure nct is never nominated for awards as units but as a single entity. Would have cut the teeth off unit akgaes.
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@itboyhrj
pray against overly “experimental” shitty sm tracks and hope they’ve sorted out their management structure so they actually get a 2023 comeback cos behind the scenes at sm isn’t looking good for anybody
@StarryEyesYDM
They’re in the acceptance stage of the fact their faves will forever be irrelevant. Forever talking bout “potential”. Meanwhile 5th gen bgs taking over and no one outside their miserable fanbase knows those 5
@sillygroovycool
You should ignore and not let it spoil your fun but the kcharts numbers are surprising even to me. The 24h streams are less than txts title from earlier this year. Its normal for fans who donated to k streaming funds to be confused.
@rjm3l3
while this is great, the next non cover title track will be what shows where they stand in sk in comparison to that 4th gen group who has grown quite a large fanbase.
@sunmark_7
@CEOMarkLee
The “I’ll consider it” says it all and the customer service voice while dealing with an unhinged client. The lack of insight it takes to even post the video…smh
@MananaMana5205
1. Y’all need to stop comparing to nct units and feeling good. Dream is behind seventeen, txt and skz
2. At least NCT127 have the Neo sound as their legacy. Meanwhile kidzbop 5dream still ain’t relevant 7 years into their career.
@AnushaTathapudi
I’m not shading haechan but rather the toxic elements of your subfandom who have devolved recently into the worst akgaes in ncity..There’s a difference…but I guess you wouldn’t know since your ilk make personal attacks against the other members unchecked.
@NotYourM__arkf
Dreamzens do not give a F about mark/haechan. Mark is merely a prop to be used to elevate their faves. If they had any affection for him; they would not constantly sh*t on his hard work even if it’s a unit they don’t like.
Not a unit stan but I’ll drag who needs dragging.
@anjwaaii
Nah it’s not a good thing. Txt is doing just as well domestically and is their baby so they’ll have more emotional attachment. Newjeans/lsrf/svt also don’t lack anything…it’s better for dream not be under hybe
The amendment also strengthened the requirements for protecting the rights and interests of young entertainers, such as lowering the upper limit on working hours.
35 hours a week for those under the age of 15
40 hours a week for those over the age of 15
@yurimomo1211
And hating on djj isn’t going to get your fave what you want any quicker. You just alienate other fans who are become less inclined to support taeil’s solo when it does come. A lot of short sightedness among nctzens
Ay-yo repack album is great actually. 2baddies as a title track I didn’t like much (album was stellar tho). Phantom on the other hand is an embarrassment to the nct brand.
@CEOMarkLee
Karma will hit all of them. It’s why their faves will never have that successful solo career they dream of. Irrelevant in the group and irrelevant in the larger kpop space. They are just hastening their career demise because a lot of them are nothing without nct.
@music_remedy33
The price is a stupid decision for a group that doesn’t have a big US fanbase. They won’t attract casual kpop fans looking to see any acts with those prices. Also the dates suck - should have aimed for weekends.
@leejenfs
I like haechan but it’s true. His jokes are always at the expense of someone in the room. I gave him the grace to grow out of it (which he will) but the sanctimonious and evil way his stans have treated jeno/jisung this past year…..🤷🏼♀️. What goes around comes around.
It’s fans like you that cause fandom division and erode support for members. I and other mark biased fans have the bandwidth to support and listen to both mark & djj. Meanwhile you just go around spreading bad feeling. The worst thing to happen to 127 is useless fans like you.