A lot of people are criticizing the TCG team for not being able to spot clear signs of AI in some of the submissions. I understand the frustration - paid professionals should do better. But I think we should also use the opportunity to educate ppl on WHY we know these are AI. 🧵
🎉 The top 300 quarter-finalists in the Pokémon Illustration Contest 2024 have been announced! 🎉
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Predominantly I am going to be focusing on these pieces, as they in my opinion have the most clear signs of AI forgery. Plus, they seem to be submitted by the same person changing their name slightly, given the similarities.
I'm going to start with using this one as an example. Things that are mildly sus but excusable are marked in yellow/gold, while unexcusable things are marked in red. Similar to hands in AI generated images, the back paws here are a dead giveaway IMO, alongside crispness issues.
Speaking from experience, thicker brushstrokes are actually where I focus less, while thinner brush strokes are where I'm more focused. There's no excuse for the back paws to look like that to a trained artist. Here's some examples of real art with similar features to this one:
Here's the image without my edits. Line thickness is also noteworthy - lines with various thickness do NOT inherently indicate AI work, but when they're the most undetailed parts of an image, something fishy is going on.
I honestly wonder if the Vaporeon were drawn in after, which is a shame if so because they are cute, just not semifinalist material. Not when you have pieces like these, which is what these concepts look like when drawn by a real artist with lots of practice.
Take a look at that Vaporeon. Like really, compare it to the Eevee. Do you see anything wrong with this picture?
If your answer is "oh that Vaporeon is stylistically different" OR "oh that Vaporeon isn't drawn well" you've gotten half the issue. It's both combined...
It also indicates to me that the Eevee in the center was created with or enhanced by AI. Additionally, if the quality of the vaporeon (and the luvdisc, whose inconsistent shading is a huge red flag), the tail is HUGELY messed up and the neck fur is very suspicious. Also...
(Artists are in the alt text btw)
I'll probably return to these pieces throughout to continue to compare and contrast, but we'll get to that when we get to it.
Next I want to talk about this piece, as it has some...very interesting decisions in it.
The judges should be ashamed for ignoring obvious signs of AI forgery and also for ignoring obvious quality inconsistencies. It's an insult to the artists who worked hard on their submissions and the better artists who were ignored. I'm sorry but it's just true.
That's STILL a sign of someone who doesn't deserve to be a semifinalist. Compared to the amount of detail real artists in the semifinals put into their pieces, it's frankly insulting.
To be honest with you, that Vaporeon isn't that suspicious for the reasons you think it is, it just looks like someone didn't check their work. The feet are different sizes, the tail is bent weirdly, the head fins are different sizes... but what are those weird white markings?
The hind foot is the most suspicious anatomical issue...besides the fact that the front and center eevee managed to get this into the semifinals. There's nothing wrong with this Vaporeon, but someone who drew this as some of their best work would NOT qualify for semifinals.
I consider myself an okay artist, but not Pokemon TCG competition worthy. So seeing something drawn clearly below my skill level (at BEST, as a quick rough drawing before the details, which is still not ok for a SEMIFINALIST) is disheartening and unfair.
Also, the distinct lines for Vaporeon's fins, and not its feet that look almost linelessly painted, is suspicious.
You wanna know how I know? Because I draw like this! I even have an example of psuedo-linelessness so I can show you what Vaporeon SHOULD look like if its real.
Compare to this real piece, and you should see why the falling flowers are so suspicious. You can also see how detail is supposed to decrease the further away you go, but it seems to increase in this photo, only to get all blurred out. All of this combined is too suspicious.
Pretty much everything that's wrong with the previous two entries combined, but because the dead giveaway of the tail was a little better this time it's harder. Still, I don't think any legit artist would draw these things this way. The far BG is also weirdly detailed.
This person (or people) has(/have) chosen to take opportunities away from real artists with their AI generated slop. Even if we ignored the clear signs of AI forgery, both artists have Vaporeons that have no place being in the semifinalists and the judges should be ashamed.
I hope the explanation of the tail makes sense, I hand circled the elements of the tail that are suspicious so hopefully my explanation makes sense to non-artists who might not understand what's wrong with it. There are other problems too but these are dead giveaways imo.
There's a weird green thing in the water, which at best correlates to a reflection of trees but it's too far down in the water for that. Maybe it's meant to be algae-covered tree roots, but why would the artist choose to put that in clear, bright blue water??
To put full explanation for what's wrong with the tail: there are weird, completely impossible spikes, and the tip of the tail seems to be vanishing into the clouds or water above. These aren't decisions an artist would make willy-nilly, and the blurriness tells me this is AI.
And that's the thing, really. It's everything combined in an AI art piece, and that's why it can be so hard to explain to non-artists, and why it's important to not start witch hunts and only call things out when they're hurting others.
Once you've successfully identified one piece of art as AI, it's not necessary to debunk their other art, but I will come back to Vigen later in the thread. For now I'm going back to Vigo since I feel like we need more proof. And-oh yep, that'll do it.
I would say the absolute biggest giveaway in this image is the tail. If you see something that blurry AND misshapen, it's AI. Even I'm not that sloppy. I wasn't even as a kid doing lineless painterly work with a COMPUTER MOUSE! (second image)
Of course art is subjective, and I'm not trying to rag on anyone whose art looks like that Vaporeon - again, I draw like that too! But I'm not a semifinalist in such a high stakes competition, and I won't be for as long as my art looks like this, so its INCREDIBLY unfair imo.
Probably the least bad one is this one. However, it's worth asking the same questions we did throughout this thread: Why would the artist choose to draw the snow like that? Or Eevee like that, given it was submitted under the same name as the ones with fluffy ear bases?
This one is the closest to looking real to me. I'm sure you can see lots of details that don't look right tho, like the battlefield looking weirdly chipped? and the lightning being inconsistent and low quality, while the crowd is too high quality, and the bg on top being nonsense
Because the AI eevee distracts from the low quality Vaporeon, someone without the talent and skills necessary to win a competition like this got selected, and it's insulting to artists. It's not insulting to submit the vaporeon by itself, but it never would've won by itself.
Buuut there are excuses for this. An artist might not know how to draw lightning very well, and spent too long on the crowd, and doesn't know how to draw the top of a battle dome (honestly? neither do i) and just fucking went with it. but...
The original artist of one of the Vaporeons was identified. Either it was traced, or the AI program did a really bad job of recreating it. The lines make me think traced but you can SEE the background of this image in it!
I just found out that Virgin K stole an old drawing of Vaporeon I did some time ago to complement his AI art, I'm so sad and angry by what happened. Thanks to those who sent me messages about it, alerting me about the case! ❤️
#PTCGIC2024
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Remember to be kind and try not to accuse people unless it's a situation that demands it, like this one, where recognition and money are involved. Hopefully TPCI addresses this issue and fixes it soon.
It can be hard to tell the difference between simplification, stylistic choices, and actual indicators of AI. But I hope this can help some people who struggle with identifying AI begin learning how to identify it. You can always ask us for help too!
@SouthpauzArt
Like, it completely misses the point of why rcdart was mocked - they (idr their pronouns) were mocked for embodying racist and transphobic tropes in their art. People's inability to separate personal lack of appeal from genuinely harmful tropes is honestly kinda concerning imo
@uldahnfang
@KurageMafuyu
I agree, people were saying pokemon spoiled everything before the games came out and NOW they're upset about the lack of marketing? I felt like the marketing before was fine but Pokemon fans can never be satisfied so they have to ruin it for the rest of us.
Either way it is very visibly stolen (and at a worse quality than the original by far) so I wanted to mention it. I really hope this, for sure, gets the artist disqualified, because this is blatant fraud. (As in, yes, I am accusing this person of a legal crime.)
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Jesus fucking christ you guys
A two-building child sex slavery operation run by Milwaukee police seems to have been uncovered by civilians today. Apparently all the children escaped and have been rescued
Still looking into it but it seems like the real deal so far
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Please report this tweet. @/FirestormSix aka @/SSC_Costumes is doxxing @/Tofu_Civet who is a MINOR and putting her personal information and photo on here!! Not to mention the dehumanizing language and false claims of racefaking
@TessasTeaTime
I didnt read the meme correctly and I thought it was a joke about making all your characters lgbt in your stories despite it having 0 impact on the plot
I liked my version better
@meatymeatbones
@anishinaa_gay
@bunsolvd
Cultures around the world have had their own ideas on these things ever since the beginning of time - however, they're all pretty much the same worldwide now as a result of colonialism.
If you'd like an example of a piece that "looks like the AI art style" that ISN'T ai, and thus use it to improve your understanding of what is and isnt AI, take a look at this adorable piece that didn't make the cut!
Still really disappointed to see so many talented HUMAN artists get f***** by the amount of "A!" entries that placed instead.....I poured my heart and soul into this, and although I didn't place top 300, I'm proud of what I did. Shame on you,
#PTCGIC2024
for not doing a better
@BestVideosviral
Some people in the comments are like...implying the cat is in serious distress/this is exploitative for twitter?
Assuming the cat isnt allowed to eat all that, i dont see any body language that indicates serious distress. It got a little spooked but it mostly looks confused. (1
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@Mallen1811
Well, the environmental damage part is basically tied to cryptocurrency as a whole. There's likely no fully environmentally damage-free way to run cryptocurrency, but there are ways to mitigate the damage (like when companies go "carbon neutral"). It's not exclusive to nfts IIRC
@BestVideosviral
Obviously dont feed a normal cat this amount of food. Some cats dont self regulate like this one clearly does. This cat appears to just be going "wtf" and not actually be in any distress! Its not terrified, just confused. Its okay for a short silly video ^^
Please dont call makorra comphet. Comphet is a lesbian-exclusive experience (heteronormaty is what everyone experiences!) and Korra is canonically bisexual, not a lesbian. She canonically likes men, she's been called bisexual by the creators, she's not a lesbian.
@fochti
My therapist told me that autistic people "feel delayed/less pain responses, are attracted to bright lights, are upset by loud noises, and have social difficulties" (" you only have the last two so you aren't autistic") like sure they can but I think you're describing moths 💀
@zenophelion
@malusdraco_art
Honestly I think this context is really helpful cuz like. The first video set off my alarm bells, but it's an alligator, if it was stressed out he could just whip around and bite the person - unless of course they've gotten so used to being abused that they don't care anymore
Hi Owltwt! We have a lot of really talented artists in the TOH fandom, but there's been a recent explosion of bootlegged plush on Aliexpress that includes designs stolen from artists - so I wanted to put a PSA out there so people know not to buy! Please RT!
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@candelabra007
@mitskithoughts
If you buy a hamburger from mcdonalds you aren't entitled to sit on their cash register and smear it all over their table. If you pay for a movie ticket you aren't entitled to record the film on your phone, those recordings are literally illegal.
I really like this piece in part because it gives such a good contrast between the fake AI generated pieces and this real piece, showing how certain elements look between real artists vs machines. Go show the original piece some love! It's super cute!
You can see the way certain shapes are drawn - the bush, the trees and landscape outside, the details on Eevee. There's elements where its blurry and abstract, but they're deliberate and clear in what they're meant to represent. It's a lovely piece and far better than AI slop.
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@threatenedcats
To be clear: this cat is clearly distressed. But that doesn't mean its being abused in this video. The cat is asking the girl to stop petting it but she doesn't understand cuz shes just a little kid. She isnt being rough, the cat is just overstimulated.
@KyleRennie18
@alcoda777
@milftittylover
I have never wanted something to be faked for views more in my entire life. At least if it was fake I could sleep at night. But no she really just wasted all that food and tricked people into drinking it for views
@meatymeatbones
@anishinaa_gay
@bunsolvd
While nonwhite cultures have had unfavorable opinions on lgbt people, women, etc before colonialism as well, the variation nowadays is much smaller than it once was and most of them only differ slightly from eurocentric white christian standards, so... i hope that makes sense!
It's 2024 I think communication about this early on is important but the way y'all take a question about consent as an excuse to bully other people is crazy, if you had a cheater ex that did this idk what to tell you but that's because they're a cheater, not bc they're polyam
@candelabra007
@mitskithoughts
Businesses are entitled to set boundaries, and individuals even more so. If you're a fan of an individual person to the point of attending a concert of theirs, I feel like you'd want to respect their boundaries. But maybe I think too highly of the general populous.
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@adjinninAjmer
@AbuHafsah1
Technically, a trans man isn't a "woman that assumes the manners of men" nor is a trans woman a "man that assumes the manners of women". They are men who act like men and women who act like women. Some trans people would be targeted under this verse, but not these two.
@Ambokiko
@KpopTwilyy
Falsely claiming that they created the work is against most if not all social media sites' TOS. I recommend reporting the tweet in a way that allows you to add context, or file a DMCA report. I'm so sorry you're going through this and I hope they get banned from the internet jfc
@goddammitsarah
I fucking hate our legal system, where someone who builds his own house in the middle of nowhere with material that companies were just going to destroy, is technically doing something illegal. How dare people refer to the homeless as "lazy" when shit like this happens.
@Gingerhazing
@isaac_livengood
My homophobic parents told me they had to stop me from watching it as a kid
...apparently it was because I started acting like Lilo and they hated being sassed but 🤔🤔🤔
@TremendoDude
@bleuetude
@Mallen1811
For context, carbon neutral just means they invest a certain amount in environmental protection so they claim it offsets the pollutants they create. Not that investing in environmental charities is a bad thing by any means, but it's a little bit of a misleading phrase.
@childishgamzeno
People like this always assume diversity and authentic representation means segregation, which is really just more reflective of them and how they perceive the world than anything else. I wish these people could think critically about race for more than two seconds.
i cant even lie queerness in cartoons doesn’t hit anymore the way it did in the age of hardcore censorship. kids nowadays will never know the exhilaration of seeing a homoerotically-charged yet plausibly deniable interaction in a cartoon when you’re 14 and in the closet
@RatRuler
@SA1NTCAKE
When you're a singular writer there's no way you can replicate having a team, and this extends to tons of things outside of characters of color. You just research, research, listen, and learn. This discussion isnt about us, its about showrunners/professionals
@midoriya_shouto
@DestinytoMoon
SAME SAME SAME like yes i still want to be loved anxiety and all and i love chatting frequently with someone im rlly close with but holy shit its not cute that i have those problems!! it fucking sucks!! it causes me to hurt people!! and ive been hurt by ppl w/ those problems too!
@quendergeer
this is subtle like this is exactly how you quickly establish characterization in a visual medium like animation. This is just good set design/character design. Not to mention if you actually watch the show this factors into their characterization beyond "just nonbinary" lmfao
@threatenedcats
Took a look at the instagram page. This kid and the cat are great friends and trust each other a lot! The cat is healthy and also just meows a lot, so basically its being a dramatic bitch in this video. Just dont pet cats doing this cuz normally you'll get the claw lmao
@AnimeGuyEB
@bisexualowls
1. Saying the Holocaust was exaggerated absolutely makes you a nazi. What, you think the Nazis were proudly discussing the atrocities they committed with the allied forces?
2. Yes slurs for Jewish people exist, Google is free
3. Pretty sure you yourself also just admitted it
Ace people are also getting their rights taken away actually, thanks for asking. Unlike this post and block the person who post this or else im unfollowing you, I don't need this bullshit put on my timeline as an aroace trans person having fucking panic attacks over this shit.
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@adjinninAjmer
@AbuHafsah1
Not really. Transgender people don't "change" their gender usually. Usually they always felt one gender but it was disconnected from their body. Sort of like being intersex, which I doubt Allah forbids considering it's a natural genetic thing.
Btw aphobia has been present in media, most notably the aspec erasure in Riverdale. You should care just as much as if a gay or trans person was erased. Jughead is canonically aroace.
There's other forms of aphobia in media too but im too tired to talk about them
@TheAmreld
@saltedmalted7
That still doesn't define a cop, in fact saying he "enforces law" is a stretch. It's not clear whether "don't punch a villager" is a law or just something the iron golem doesn't like. I would also punch someone who punched my friend - doesn't make me a cop.
@rikulesbian
first part: ew aroace & enby infantilization
second part: why are bi men lawful and bi women neutral? wait, where are...? oh god...dont tell me-
third part: goodbye im going to commit tax evasion bc of this homophobic transmisogynistic bullshit