"Democrats bad" has been the sole motivating force for Republican voters and politicians for 40 years. It's led them to vote for rapists, child abusers, and criminals of all sorts in the name of owning the libs.
It has been a rough 24 hours.
I had several discussions with people that are pro-Kamala and I was ecstatic as they are intelligent people and I want to understand why they believe what they do. It's an opportunity to learn.
I tried to find out why they are voting for Kamala by
When Genghis Khan was cutting a bloody swath across half the planet and killing 10% of the world's population, were there people who heard about it in Norway and said "I must destroy all my personal relationships until this conflict has ended"
“Filled with despair at the world’s suffering, I resolved to make a difference, and took the only path my deep well of empathy would allow: spending all my time being cruel to people online.”
You see, the government wants some lithium in Asheville and they can only get it by purchasing the property, but it's too expensive, so they spent $1.4 trillion inventing a weather modification device to smack NC with a hurricane to save some money
Reports are coming out of Appalachia of town hall meetings that it was indeed, a land grab
People are being told they no longer own their homes and have to vacate immediately. No more help going in by civilians or they will be arrested
My prof: Stalin signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler & helped Nazis
Me: 🙋♀️didnt Stalin first repeatedly reach out to Western nations to form an anti-fascist alliance against Hitler & they refused, pushing him into the non-aggression pact?
My prof (decades in academia): idk
If France had a universal healthcare system, many of its citizens would not have been driven to support far-right candidates like Marine Le Pen. Annd, hold on, I'm hearing something over my earpiece,
it's incredible how a Republican president always has infinite power to do as much harm as he wants, but a Democratic president always ~mysteriously~ has his hands tied, and is by definition incapable of expending any political capital on anything good.
People on this site have invented a world where Russia mobilizes 150,000 troops in a month span and that doesn't mean they're up to anything, but NATO countries have had troops in Russia's general vicinity for three decades which means they're about to invade any day now.
At one point there was a bunch of "libs are going to whitewash Trump" talk but so far liberals have consistently maintained Trump is bad and everyone else is moving him through the image rehabilitation process.
The neat part is that Democrats can pass several trillion dollars in spending on climate change and green energy, give you a stimulus check, expand the CTC, pull out of Afghanistan, and forgive student debt, and you can still call it "doing nothing"
You ever notice how whenever people say stuff like this, “the rest of the world” seems to exclude places like India, Russia, Iran, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea…
To these people the Right is just something that passively happens, like a tornado, and the harm it does can only be expressed in terms of the Democrats’ perceived failure to mitigate it
This is a prime example of the Other Minds Problem. "Liberals are surely ingesting my same media diet of raw war footage and takes from drug-addled Brooklyn podcasters. And yet they aren't freaking the fuck out about everything. Therefore, they must love war and mass murder."
If some guy sets himself on fire saying "immigrants are destroying this country" I'll hold you to saying that means we have to close the border. Just want to be clear on what the rules are here.
If a man burning himself alive won’t get Biden to call for a ceasefire, I don’t know what will. His spent his last few breaths yelling “free Palestine”. We will never forget you Aaron Bushnell.
So we've gone from "Biden can end this with one phone call" to "whoa whoa Biden needs to put the brakes on trying to force Israel to do stuff they didn't agree to?"
I always read the "I live in a deep blue state" qualifier as a tacit admission the libs are right and you just happen to live in a place where you can excuse yourself from following that reasoning
Liberals. Stop fucking tweeting at me. I am smarter than you. You have a tiny conception of history and politics. Voting for president is a small part of politics for a small portion of people and I'm not in it. I live in a deep blue state and whoever gets elected isn't on me
I like how everyone on TikTok convinced themselves that when they see tons and tons of videos about the same subject over and over again, that’s the opposite of propaganda.
MAGA in 2017: don't believe the mainstream media, check out the Patriot Eagle Updates account on Facebook for real news
Zoomers today: don't believe the mainstream media, check out this depressed 21-year-old professional dog walker on Tik Tok for real news
@whstancil
actually tik tok is one of the only sources providing current updates that aren't sanitized by western imperial interests, and that guy is a genocide apologist
“I got tired of confronting the complexity of the world so I retreated to an online echo chamber where everyone shouts slogans at each other and never actually answers any questions.” It’s an easy choice, I’ll give you that.
Anybody else feel a little uneasy about this rapidly-growing permission structure on the left where entire groups of people can be dismissed as evil and you're blinded to the cognitive dissonance with the rest of your worldview?
Flint has clean water and people responsible for the poisoning went to jail. There was a time not too long ago where that would have been held up as a success story of how activists called attention to a problem and the government found a solution, but no one ever talks about it.
There was a time when leftists were saying it was inevitable that liberals would rehabilitate Trump. And yet today they're going door to door demanding people tell them a single way Biden is better than Trump. Call that whatever you will
I agree Jon Stewart has not moved politically, but neither have the Dems moved right. He was always doing the “look at how wacky both sides are” stuff that Democrats have lost all patience with after experiencing the last 8 years of politics.
It's very funny, Jon Stewart truly has not moved politically, he is the same as he was 10 years ago
The issue is the Democrats have moved significantly further right than they were then. So now those who has stayed in line with the Dems see Stewart as the enemy because he hasn't
By far the most war footage I saw from Syria (where over 300 thousand civilians died) was not actually during when it happened but rather in October 2023 when it was being passed off by bad actors as footage from Gaza.
Great example of the Fundamental Rule of Internet Communism: under no circumstance can you ever admit that literally anything ever improved in the US, because that logically validates incrementalism.
People on Twitter will really be like, "You believe in revolution? That pales in comparison to my strategy, improving society by voting for blue war criminals" and then don't improve society by voting for blue war criminals.
This policy would help me tremendously, except
1) they won’t pass it, and
2) I’m not gonna sell out 200,000 dead Palestinians for a $25k down payment on a house - and no one else should either
It’s weird how for 5 straight years the only box you had to check to be considered sufficiently progressive/leftist was supporting M4A and now nobody talks about that anymore.
The "policy" emphasis in this election is Republican framing. It's perfectly, 100% valid to say, Trump tried overthrow an election, got impeached twice, committed crimes, and was extremely incompetent, and that's why we have to beat him.
Too many people replace the "America good, everywhere else bad" they learned as kids with "America bad, everywhere else good" and think they're really enlightened for it
It is bugfuck insane to hold the position that Israel lies and the New York Times lies and Hamas does not lie. But unfortunately thats what we’re dealing with around here.
If your definition of “liberal” encompasses Pete Buttigieg, King George II, Ted Cruz, your uncle with a BLM bumper sticker, and Adolph Hitler, a smart person would probably step back and realize this term isn’t very informative for describing politics.
Well the Nazis didn't think executing 9 million people in the span of a few years was "too harsh." Also the "one drop rule" for Judaism would have probably applied to a lot of German leadership, I don't think they deserve any moral praise for this.
Folks I don't think biden has or should have the power to unilaterally give teachers a raise, but if you genuinely believe that the president of the united states doesn't have any input on policy then idk what to tell you
In 2005 the US Navy decommissioned the carrier USS America and spent an entire month trying to sink it. They failed and ultimately had to blow it up from the inside to scuttle it. A drone cannot take out an aircraft carrier.
The Ukraine war has made obvious that the era of tank warfare is now over.
If a $500 drone can kiII a $10 million tank ... tanks are obsolete and won't be built.
Next up? Naval ships. Imagine 1,000 drones (cost $500,000) sinking an Aircraft Carrier ($13 billion).
China knows.
They are trying to make you feel crazy if you are not basing your decision on some kind of marginal tax rate or tariffs or whatever. You are a completely normal person, do not let them gaslight you.
At some point a lot of left leaning people realized that if you simply reject concepts like harm reduction or the lesser of two evils, you can avoid having to learn a lot about politics and still own people in internet arguments by just saying everything is bad.
The political compass: a test developed by nihilist horseshoe leftists that, shockingly, always spits out results that support the nihilist horseshoe leftist worldview
A long time ago I realized I fundamentally cannot get through to Trump supporters, and I decided maybe I would have better luck getting through to anti-Dem people on the left, because I thought at least we had common goals. I've now realized that's not really true either.
The world's a terrible place. But believe it or not, it used to be a lot worse. I guess people think violence was invented in 2023. But it's fine to be sad about the world. Either way, it's not a normal human reaction to take out your despair in interpersonal interactions.
Speaking for myself, usually the first time I learn a pop culture event is happening is when I see some dumb tweet talking about how it's distracting from something else
do you guys not find it odd that all of these major events in pop culture happen when israel plans on bombing a big city with lots of people there. the superbowl, the oscars, and now the met gala? how do you guys fall for it EVERY TIME? how?
If you're doing the whole "all presidents are evil and deserve to be in prison just as much as Trump" then whatever, but you have to acknowledge how that's effectively whitewashing him. You kind of have to pick a lane there.
I really need to stop engaging with this kind of garbage but it's just so obviously stupid. If the Democrats see that people on the left aren't supporting them then they're going to increasingly look for votes closer to the center, because there are more voters there.
This is the white liberal. These are the things that the white liberal says. These are the people that Dr. king, writing 60 years ago, said are more devoted to order than justice; to the absence of tension than presence of peace.
An analogy for "Dems aren't fighting hard enough" discourse is: if there's a locked room and one person is quietly trying to pick the lock and another is banging on the door with their fists and screaming, who is trying harder to get in? A lot of people assume it's the latter.
This is a quote from Brie that just nakedly gives the game away. I would hope people see this as an obvious admission of what she’s doing and they choose to go somewhere else to get their leftist takes.
Let me break it down for you:
Trump using federal law enforcement to crack down on protests that are under city or municipal jurisdiction = fascism
Biden not using federal law enforcement to crack down on protests that are under city or municipal jurisdiction= not fascism
Joe Biden campaign officially dies tonight. With a naked and brutal display of fascism in the nation's largest city, mobilized against unarmed students on their own campus.
This is what he said he would prevent Trump from doing. This is why we said there was no difference.
Seriously, do whatever you want with the police. Defund them, demilitarize them, shift their responsibilities onto other services, whatever. All I am asking is that you use the word "reform" to describe what you're doing
Seems like mass death isn't really something these people are morally against as much as them being mad that the "right" people aren't being killed. A great worldview that leads you to some really wonderful places I'm sure
It's funny when you ask a Do Something person what we should actually do, and they answer but it's like two wimpy things that have a 13% chance of working and address only a small fraction of the problem, and I'm like wow just a second ago you were acting like Mr. Spock.
Very easy to imagine an alternate history where Obama had a protracted Congressional battle over this instead of the ACA, passed it, the law got declared unconstitutional by SCOTUS anyway, and people in 2023 are ragging on Obama for not focusing on healthcare instead
You do know Hamas has accepted full responsibility for this and has said they'd do it again, right? If it was an Israeli false flag they've had every chance to say that. You don't have to take the word of a bunch of hasbara Zionist IOF stans on the internet.
One of the most surreal moments of my life was when this picture was everywhere about the Nova party massacre and no one was like “is this a fuckin airstrike? what the fuck is this!”
All of the posts complaining about grocery prices would be more convincing if they said "I didn't wind up buying this because it was too expensive." But they're always "look how much this cost me" which means it didn't cost too much. Because you fuckin bought it!
It’s weird that you think voting is both the bare minimum you can do to affect change and also a binding choice that can totally compromise a person’s moral values if done wrong
*typing into a magical glass pane that puts 99% of all information in human history at my fingertips* you know medieval peasants really did work a lot less than us…
Ehh it was precisely the fact that so many people assumed it was an easy win for HRC that they either checked out of it or did a gimmick vote for Trump thus creating a self-defeating prophecy.
@atrupar
You know you had the option of replying directly to her and engaging in a dialogue about your disagreement rather than screenshotting and then circulating her tweet with a cheap shot at her
Why was this necessary
Isn't it funny how whenever you see someone talking about "learning lessons" from elections they always go from 2016 to 2024 and don't mention the one in between?
if trump wins in 2024 (which i think is pretty likely), there's going to be a tremendous number of centrist and liberal types caught completely off guard as they were in 2016. and, once again, they won't derive any lessons from the election whatsoever.
A person working 3 jobs will always say the economy is bad and the data says there aren’t many people working 3 jobs now. Why are people pretending they don’t understand this
People say "where's your humanity if you see all this terrible stuff happening and don't freak out about it," but I think it's the other way around. A key mode of humanity is to know terrible stuff is happening and still carry on through it.
One of the most strongly-held normal liberal opinions, going all the way back to 9/11 and extending to today, is that "Muslim" and "terrorist" are not equivalent terms.
it's incredible really. Biden wiped out my $80K student loan; the first president of my lifetime to enact a policy that directly, substantially and positively impacted my life. Freed up $800/ month. And I'd rather eat cat shit than vote for him
There's not much the Harris campaign can do to reach the small subset of people who have decided to let the algorithms bombard them with raw war footage.
If Harris loses because of Michigan, it will be entirely self-inflicted. Like Humphrey in '68, she is refusing to distance herself from the Democratic president's war, thereby alienating young people who are revolted by constant pictures of dead babies.
Retail workers are fascists, retail work isn’t proletarian labor. Retail work is being the lowest level of rentier, collecting scraps off scraps of rent. Go get a real job instead. You wouldn’t be so full of hatred for your fellow man.
Twitter is a fun place where you’ll see one guy saying Biden canceling $17 billion in student debt is basically worthless, and a minute later you’ll see another guy saying $20 billion is enough to end homelessness in the US.
We're seeing a number of people on the left who have conditioned themselves to only define atrocities as things done by those on the stronger end of a power imbalance, so when they hear about atrocities committed by the smaller power their reflex is to say they must be fake.
Seriously, there's like 10 of these every day. Please tell me there's a corner of right wing Twitter where people are constantly bombarded by viral tweets saying "I voted in 2016, 2018, and 2020, and all I got was a government still controlled by Brandon and the Deep State"
I like this conservative framing of "they had to go back and find a statute from the Reconstruction era" as Jack Smith stretching for legal justification, instead of the more obvious conclusion that Trump did something so bad that it hasn't come up since Reconstruction