Okay look the thing is that Bruce’s opinions on Jason change with the writer. Here’s what Mark Waid believes Bruce thinks of Jason—“The VIOLENT one” “A WARD that I’d let turn into JOE CHILL.”
I wouldn’t mind Ugly Jason if he weren’t literally the ONLY batfam member who is consistently designated as The Ugly One. (Also ignoring…you know…Morrison’s run going “well of COURSE he’s ugly…he’s the BAD one!!!”)
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Lovecraft’s problem is that he very, VERY much put a lot of his issues within his work. And not in a “this has unfortunate implications” way, but in a “he is telling people which races are best and why” way.
Never gonna be down with that Jason design. Never gonna be down with him being the ONLY batkid who’s purposefully drawn to be unattractive. It’s a weird vibe!!! I don’t like it!
How are you gonna use “Jason attacked Tim” as evidence for Jason being canonically reckless and endangering civilians?? Every time Jason attacked Tim, he very much planned it (not reckless), and, oh yeah, TIM DRAKE IS NOT A DING-DANG CIVILIAN.
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They are NOT comparable. And I’m not saying that Rowling’s writing doesn’t have issues, this is not a defense of Rowling. But things like the house elves—they’re not real. And everything else you mentioned falls under Unfortunate Implications—(1/2)
I just think Jason Todd does not in fact need to learn “wee-woo killing people is wrong.” I just think that’s boring. (Also, trying to force RL lessons in the Batverse is dumb, but that’s a separate rant.)
JayTim noncon where Jason noncons Tim…who is absolutely super into it but also knows that if Jason *knows* he’s into it then he’ll stop.
He has to walk a tightrope of “accidentally” ending up in Red Hood’s crosshairs but not so often that Jason catches on. Cape Life is so hard.
@lurkinglurker42
Okay but I had to look up “circling” and there were a LOT of people who did not know what this meant—I’m now imagining an alpha who hasn’t had a lot of omega contact being like “why are they circling me like a shark….”
JayRoman, topping from the bottom, omegaverse—Roman finding out the Big Bad Red Hood is an omega and deciding to fuck with him. His mooks manage to trap Jay and Roman personally doses him with heat pollen…
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Very easy to say “you’re looking too much into it,” or “she’s Just Ignorant.” It’s technically arguable, and that’s my point.
Meanwhile, Lovecraft was throwing out Actual Slurs Yes The Really Bad Ones and writing stories where the Horror was Immigrants or Mixed Race People. 2/2
JayTim omegaverse with a!Jay and o!Tim, and instead of fighting in Titans Tower, Tim just whips a titty out. It’s been his dream to nurse Jason Todd and now he finally can. (Jason “Mommy Issues” Todd folds instantly.)
Blows my mind that the MCU and Sony (Spiderverse) provided master classes in how to get audiences to love characters they had never even heard of…and DC won’t even make a Nightwing movie.
BruJay/JayBru omegaverse—I just think it would be hot if omega!Bruce groomed omega-leaning Jason into being an alpha. Everyone said that Bruce and Dick would have an easy time since they were both omegas…after Dick left, Bruce could see how their similarities pushed them apart.
My Jason Todd sexuality headcanons are as such:
—He has no gender preference, he is attention-sexual.
—The only thing competing with this is his competence kink.
—He bounces between hypersexual and functionally asexual depending on the path of his current obsession.
The ONLY WAY Morrison’s redhead Jay makes ANY kind of canon sense is if we assume that he was lying and fastidiously dyeing his hair red INCLUDING during his time in prison so that he could slander Bruce.
I’m sorry, this is my hill, I’m a hardass about it. They all spend their free time getting smashed into brick walls on a daily basis, they should all look like they went through a wood chipper.
Oh wait no sorry he comes back and is actually huge (thanks Laz Pit Alpha-izing) and his instincts are screaming at him that Bruce is still *his*, and also tbh pretty unhappy that Bruce chose *another omega* to replace him.
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Okay but think about kniveswoof with Knives being like “and I am NOT, under ANY circumstances, pretending I am FUCKING my BROTHER.”
WW like “you really don’t need to say that every time.”
Like, Jason has absolutely endangered actual civilians before, but *usually* there’s more going on than “I’M A LOOSE CANNON WHO DOESNT PLAY BY THE RULES.”
…he ends up milking Roman’s alpha cock all night, riding him until the pollen finally wears off. He leaves Roman put up wet, as a shaky mess of fluids, and Roman is half-conscious and wondering how everything got away from him so quickly. (The end.)
Bruce’s attempt—and his strict regimen of training, suggestion, and hormonal supplements—pays off when Jason falls into his first rut. It was likely that he would always be small for an alpha…but that wouldn’t matter since he would always be with Bruce.
People need to realize that comic writers are EGREGIOUS when it comes to playing favorites. They have NO chill.“and this here is Normo Blormo and he is AMAZING and everybody LOVES him…and this is Normo *Lormo* and he EATS SHIT” and it’s just two bland white dudes.
Bruce refused to let history repeat itself with Jason. He would make sure that the boy would be *his* alpha, *his* stud, resolving to make the quirks of their biology work for them.
…UNFORTUNATELY, Roman failed to consider that even a dosed up Red Hood is still, you know, RED HOOD, and might in fact be even MORE terrifying when he’s feral. Jason manages to rip through Roman’s men, and then has Roman all to himself…
Batcest—Whenever Bruce does the whole “I’M A LONE WOLFBAT I DONT NEED FAMILY” thing his punishment should be getting put into stocks nakey in the Batcave for anyone who comes by to use as they please.
@lurkinglurker42
No apology necessary! It was fun to look up and then see people “😱” when they were informed “I think your rabbit wants to make bunnies with you…” lol. Maybe they’ve just been around alphas/betas, or omegas are rare or something! Omega in pre-heat zoomies around them.
Personally, I love BruSlade because it’s like…what if we took these two toxic old guys with dad/son issues up the wazoo and then put them together and gave them those same issues *about each other*
(But that won’t happen because the audience is intended to identify with Bruce/Dick/Tim, while Jason is often specifically NOT meant to be identified with.)
Jason and Tim in a shitty undercover job in a rathole apartment smashing CONSTANTLY because they are off patrol-duty for the mission and they are bored af.
What if I said SladeJayDick where Slade finds catatonic!Jay and trains him to be his loyal attack dog companion and then Slade captures Dick and he’s Jay’s bitch? Hmm? HMMMM?
Thinking about this with cryptid Batboys who met each other before Bruce. “Sorry I wasnt home last night, had to roost in a church because the Weird Guy tagged me again ☹️☹️”
@BbyHasIssues
Look Jason knew from Intel™️ that Tim was an omega, but he wasn’t going to let that stop him from opening up a can of whoopass on the newbie. (He’s not sexist.) He wasnt prepared for Tim to wave a nip in his face and treat him like a grumpy, tired puppy.
I love “Bad Guy With No Qualms” Dick Grayson but I do wish there were more “Guy With Qualms Who Does Bad Stuff Anyway But Feels Guilty About It” Dick Grayson (and by “Does Bad Stuff” I mean “grooms and/or molests Jason Todd” just to be clear)
People refuse to allow any nuance to these kinds of things bc the problem isn't Nightwing being the leader or that he's being rude it's that they just use everyone around him as props for it instead of allowing actual interesting character interaction lol
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It’s one of the reasons why “Jason was A BAD SEED and also TOO RECKLESS and DUMB” makes me so fucking angry. There was already BARELY any impact emotionally from Jason’s death, and rhetoric robs what gravitas it DID have.
I am just really sick of people coming up with tortured reasons as to why the thing they don’t like is OBJECTIVELY BAD rather than just…a thing they don’t like.