What you leave out is how the anti-AI community came to also help out the kid and even some talented voice actors volunteered their time to voice in his animation so he didn't need to use AI.
Weird how you forget that but I guess it makes your reasoning even more petty.
"Steve, what make you more pro-AI?"
The poor kid who made this awesome Rankin-bass inspired Scooby-Doo short got harrassed to hell and back for using A.I. voices in his draft. Grey Delisle threatened to Blacklist him from an entire industry, and so much more.
On Elara's show, Powdur says and I QUOTE
"I intended harm from myself to them"
She absolutely was intending harm towards Lily and her artist, whether that harm was purely to reputation or via enabling harassment is up for debate. However it's pretty clear.
Okay but like making a response where you're being purposely antagonizing and tagging the people by excusing it with "humor is my coping mechanism" is icky.
The whole response gives me mean girl behavior.
And I don't even follow any of them.
It's $0 to be kind??
What they also leave out was that when Eagan hired voice actors, the same AI bros that โdefendedโ him started dogpiling him for it instead.
Really Eagan was just an excuse for these people.
i cant, i feel humiliated by this.
I sent my design in expecting to be critiqued with respect, nowhere in the original post did it say I would be humiliated in front of all your viewers without so much as constructive criticism.
@NBinted
I've never in my 10 years+ of content creation ever heard someone compare Jacksfilms to KEEMSTAR of all people. Genuinely one of the craziest comparisons I've ever seen made about any creator.
"Do I regret what I've done? No."
"Do I want to apologize? No."
I know she says she's likely still emotional, but in my opinion that is not an excuse to actively try to harm others or enable harassment.
@Twitting_Cat
@9Martin_Alvarez
@escinsiders
It's not anti-Semitic to call out Israel for their crimes against humanity. Maybe if the Israeli delegation had any respect for others they'd realize they shouldn't pick fights with others. Stop using peoples' trauma for personal gain.
I highly recommend people watch the full vod if they are curious, I ainโt adding more to the thread because there isnโt more to be said. Donโt harass her obs and I hope she actually does the right thing in the end.
@swoleumbus
Bullied? Like when ai bros bullied him after he got voice actors who volunteered to help voice in his animation for free?
You don't care about the kid, you just wanna justify your boner for ai that you'll only tell half the story just to have a taste of a win.
@Blackknightrex
I think you're confusing them with the ai bros who bullied him for using voice actors after people volunteered to help him. Stop this fake advocacy you sound like a cringy lil bitch.
@BibiByeol_
To be fair, Elara didn't plan on having Powdur on stream, rather Powdur joined the stream seemingly ready to fight and Elara asked if she wanted to call. I think Elara was trying to steer her in the right direction but she just refused to budge.
@swoleumbus
>"Giving into the bullying"
You mean accepting help from professional voice actors who volunteered to help voice in his animation???
There are countless small voice actors who are trying to get their foot in the door, get material for their voice reels, etc.
@swoleumbus
Using AI voices through a program that did not have consent to have said voices is not "doing nothing wrong".
You're also assuming everyone were the same people, you can't view people as individuals but rather a collective. You blame a minority on the majority.
If you needed more confirmation that she genuinely meant to do harm, here's her straight up stating that it was meant to be harmful and she thought it was funny. Pretty sure this is against like.. any TOS on the internet right?
@Twitting_Cat
@9Martin_Alvarez
@escinsiders
Girl your whole feed the past few days has been heavily coping and trying to justify Israel's bs. You sit quietly waiting for whatever tweet fits your agenda and you nod eagerly when asked to spread it.
Why are you ignoring the harassment by the Israeli delegation? Is that okay?
Like... why is there seemingly just a random sliver of exposed breast on the sides? Is this even a real shirt or is this some weird combination of formal attire and a virgin killer theme?
@GumballTj3
Revisionist history it literally HAPPENED?? He even shouted out the redub fan video. What also happened was after he swapped from AI, you ai bros harassed HIM for "caving". The fact you don't know shows you never actually WATCHED the video or cared ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
I know everyone is commenting on the fact these weirdos won't leave Jocat alone for such a harmless song about how much he loves women, but can we also mention this specific part in your thread where you complain about people being "obsessed with consent"?
Today, men are socially not allowed to exist as sexual beings.
The bizarre result is this form of Reddit sexuality, in which guys try to make themselves as non-threatening as possible in order to express โpermittedโ sexual energy
This falls into a few main pathologies:
this is one of the weirdest responses I've ever seen. I think if anything, this final section speaks volumes. How increasingly aggressive and defensive it gets the worse it becomes. Genuinely this should've been dealt with in private.
@powdury
@FlennaVT
You say you'll marinate over a lot of things, is that your way of saying you actually don't care? Because let's be actually honest here, you don't. You've been given countless pieces of great advice on how to go about this situation yet you disregard it all just to continue this.
I too have my own experiences with Nerdy that I'll share. Rather than write a doc though I'll just do a thread because I don't think what I experienced was nearly as larger scale as what many others went through. I do stand by what the victims have said and support them.
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@powdury
@FlennaVT
Grow up? Be an adult? Take responsibility in that your reaction was emotionally driven and that it was the wrong way to go about it? Apologize? Take down the video and the tweet tagging the two in question? Your doc alone should tell people who you're talking about already?
Sneako literally out here arguing for child marriage yet you guys are made about what Moist said?????
Transphobia brainrot is so bad that they'll literally side with someone arguing for grooming as long as it's not a trans person.
@cheribiri
"I'm never too proud to apologise"
Yet where's the apology? You dance around taking any responsibility and attempt to paint yourself as someone who made a small oopsie and that Frost was wrong for rightfully being upset. You aren't sorry, you just didn't like getting caught.
@powdury
@FlennaVT
I know you've said like multiple times now you wanna wait till you were "feeling 100% apologetic" (which that alone is kinda messed up), but is that what you're doing? Or are you just waiting for people to forget and move on so you don't have to delete anything or admit fault?
@powdury
@FlennaVT
For what purpose do you continue this? For fun? Do you think the idea of Lily and her artist getting harassed enjoyable? Elara did her best to steer you towards resolving this situation, but you shot her down every time. Stop this high school bs and be an adult.
What's funny is the English release in 2004 was when they removed any reference to Vivian being trans. The original Japanese version and some European translations she is in fact trans.
Paper Mario TTYD localizers made Vivian trans.
She was originally a cross-dresser, or femboy, in the original Japanese. Not trans.
We have such a problem with kids being forced into gender assignment before they are consenting adults that this doesn't belong in a kid's game by
@mroczna_dusza
@Twitting_Cat
@9Martin_Alvarez
@escinsiders
Why should anyone be nice to people who are totally okay with being walking propaganda for genocide? Plus why defend them harassing the Dutch delegation all because Joost didn't want to take a picture with them? Sounds like a you problem.
Genuinely disgusting how other "men" will make endless jokes about a man being raped. In the actual media it's treated as something serious, so I don't get why people have to crack jokes about it, do better.
@powdury
@FlennaVT
The only thing pressure you're getting is to do the *right* thing. If anything being in an emotional state is MORE of a reason to delete your reaction and apologize, because it wasn't you being logical, rather emotional. The only half assed thing here is your excuses.
@SatanSeriously
@swoleumbus
Working for free and exposure are two different things. It doesn't mean people who are talented aren't willing to work for a lower rate if they believe in the project or support it.
If you're trying to pretend you stand for a cause or something in general, and then you go out and DO that very thing you are claiming to be against, it was never about that issue to begin with.
@powdury
You don't have to be the doctor that removes the bullet and stitches up the wound, all you gotta do is show some sign that you care. Show that you didn't actually mean to cause people to get harassed.
@powdury
Imagine you shot someone in the leg because you were angry, there's many things you could do, you could call 911, you could grab the first aid kit, but instead you "weigh your options" and do nothing while someone bleeds out.
With this, Aqua leaving Holo, and 5 Idol graduations post Brave merge, we could very well see a decline in the corpo vtuber space. Talents are seeing from the indie scene alone you don't need to be with an agency to be successful.
Here's to hoping the culture side of it dies too
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@ohaiyokaiyo
I never got these kinda channels. Like 99% of the time they just read other people's tweets to you through their own personal biases, presenting them as if they were factual interpretations. Often topics tend to be black and white which is fine but when something requires more/1
@AntagonizticAzn
@DroseraVT
They did not try and justify doxxng? If anything you're the one justifying doxxing by saying "don't say dumb shit haha" like somehow that makes it perfectly justifiable to dox someone. What crack are you on bud?
The weird thing about the vtube community, and this isn't exclusive mind you, is it's issue with holding people accountable or even deciding on what is something worth holding accountable. Likewise creators will be willing to look the other way if the profits are there to be had.
@FlennaVT
I wouldn't call it similar levels of harassment, especially since I'm not here making a video out of spite or tagging her in said thread for my followers to potentially go after her.
@SatanSeriously
@swoleumbus
There are also actors who will invest their own money towards a project that believe in. Several times actors will become producers by investing their own funds towards a film or show. Tom Hanks has done that numerous times for example.
While I appreciate them now censoring important information in posts, I wish they had started doing so months before when in two different videos they showed a tweet with my doxxed information WITHOUT censorship. I had to censor it myself here.
While I appreciate them now censoring important information in posts, I wish they had started doing so months before when in two different videos they showed a tweet with my doxxed information WITHOUT censorship. I had to censor it myself here.
I know I said I would leave the thread here, and while I still advice no one harass her at all, I had to include this.
>Hides replies of people calling her out
>Engages with a obvious anti-Semitic
Masterful gambit.
The whole drama about color pallets I can laugh and move past.
But bruh she actively engages with anti-semites.
I have moots that follow her, you might really wanna reconsider.
@GumballTj3
Like legit you didn't watch or care. Stfu about this fake outrage you ai bros are trying to pull because you guys want a crumb of sympathy.
@powdury
Going around to every quote tweet replying to criticism with sarcasm isn't gonna help you win any hearts over. I recommend considering it's 4am my time to go sleep. Take some time away from twitter and maybe reach out privately.
@SatanSeriously
@swoleumbus
Yeah and? Here's what I said. It was pointing out the lack of accuracy in the take because it also does something another person did which was generalize everyone as the minority.
What you leave out is how the anti-AI community came to also help out the kid and even some talented voice actors volunteered their time to voice in his animation so he didn't need to use AI.
Weird how you forget that but I guess it makes your reasoning even more petty.
@SatanSeriously
@swoleumbus
>justify bullying the broke kids
Literally and calmly explaining alternatives people can take as opposed to using AI. Stop Why are you arguing here really? Where did I justify any sorta bullying?
What VTubing opinion would have you like this?
Normalize having collabs with only ONE person streaming! It brings the communities together into one chat that both parties can talk and respond to without constantly interrupting or muting themselves. Put pride aside and have fun!
maybe consider the fact that he took inspiration from the og image, and also maybe fat people tend to like food? Sure not all fat people are the result of over eating, but to suggest it's offensive depict a fat person eating is kinda wild brainrot not gonna lie.
>Didn't get permission from original owners
>Intentionally Re-arranged/altered wording to avoid copyright strikes
>Buried/Hid video once he got caught
Yeaaaaaah one mistake ๐
Plus more examples of IH stealing
I was gonna hold onto these. but I feel now to share a prime example of the kind of stuff Nerdynanny would doin the TeaHouse discord. A small streamer had asked for help specifically for the verification process. However instead of offering help Nerdy was just disrespectful.
I too have my own experiences with Nerdy that I'll share. Rather than write a doc though I'll just do a thread because I don't think what I experienced was nearly as larger scale as what many others went through. I do stand by what the victims have said and support them.
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the video is unlisted, so I just clipped Filian admitting to stealing the model she made money off of... if you are a Vtuber and continue to work with her or people like her pls do me a favour & don't consider me for art or Vtuber rigging in the future/unfollow me/block whatever.