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#clerith truther, porsche enthusiast, art/design/fashion fan - in that order.

Los Angeles, CA
Joined March 2022
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
クラエアが大好き。以上です。
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
#ff7rebirthspoilers The sheer volume of emotional payoff you miss out on if you skip Aerith’s route in either Remake or Rebirth….like, if you don’t want to experience peak (canon route) writing, it’s really your loss 🧵:
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
So when are we gonna talk about how this Rosa-adjacent Aerith EC outfit (Prism Dress) has the same exact shade of blue ROSEs as Alphreid's cape
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
My ff7twt experience so far is just watching Cleriths have to explain very obvious things over and over
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
Being a CA fan is also extremely gratifying. Picture it: it’s 2005, and you’re in HS Film Studies class presenting AC clips that only show the lower half of A’s face, discussing how timing in a narrative illustrates importance - she always gets the last word in C's head⬇️
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
As someone who speaks Japanese, I personally feel this captures the sentiments being expressed more accurately than the fan translation post that is being used as reference. Sentiment is similar but wording makes a big difference in interpretation. Be careful w fan translations.
@angela_x_2024
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5 months
Here is a more literal translation for those interested. You can be optimistic and take it that he is calling the song MORE than just a love song. Or you can be cynical and say he is being vague on purpose, or avoiding ships. 😂 #NoPromisesToKeep #NoPromisesToSanity #FF7R
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
I have been starting to see CT claims that CAs are saying they're jealous of the (dusty ass) kiss, or trying to insert Aerith in the LS scenes, but I am simply not seeing anyone here say that and I follow almost exclusively CAs (vocal ones too). New CT propaganda wave it seems.
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
Being a CA is hard. On one hand, you just want to lay low and enjoy your ship. But on the other hand, you know that by being more aggro, #they bullied and misinformed their way into the devs giving them OOC pacifiers that are actively convoluting an otherwise stunning narrative.
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
@MikaTozone that's great! i look forward to seeing your thread about how tifa's optional scenes tie into the main narrative, especially the last two chapters after the GS date 🤍
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
#FF7Rebirthspoilers Rebirth Costa del Sol Aerith odd job date (optional) vs. Dream World date (mandatory) discussion about preferred dates
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
#FF7Rebirthspoilers Remake dream sequence (optional) vs. Rebirth THAT scene (canon), trying to grab her hand in a dream vs. checking and being happy that he made contact so it must mean she's real 😭
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@Novial_Gold
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#FF7Rebirthspoilers Rebirth GS date (optional) vs. Sleeping Forest (canon) "trying to find you"
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@Novial_Gold
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#FF7Rebirthspoilers Rebirth Cosmo Canyon photo odd job (optional) vs. Rebirth dream date, photos together 📸🤳
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@Novial_Gold
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#FF7Rebirthspoilers Remake dream sequence (optional) vs. Rebirth ending (obvi canon) about wherever she is being another home to comfort Cloud 🥲
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
People who say Cloud is "mean" to Aerith have never heard of a tsundere and it shows 🙄
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5 months
#FF7Rebirthspoilers Remake dream sequence (optional) "You can't fall in love w me" vs. Rebirth dream date (canon) "There I go, putting my foot in my mouth"
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
I'm glad all the smart debaters are CA's. But I guess it's because having this command of logic leads to only one obvious interpretation of the FF7 story...
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
#FF7Rebirthspoilers Rebirth's very first odd job (arguably non-optional but the Aerith route nonetheless) making flower crowns vs. Rebirth ending (canon) where the flower field has all the same flowers except instead of Cloud's foxtail, it's the yellow lily for lovers 🥹
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@Novial_Gold
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#FF7Rebirthspoilers Rebirth High Affinity Aerith NPTK performance petal catch (optional) vs. Zack petal catch-and-release (canon)
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
Is there a CA support chat somewhere that we can vent to? Because it seems like CTs have ramped up their madness in general along w sending me belligerent messages, their warped thinking is even starting to frustrate someone as calm as me
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@Novial_Gold
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#FF7Rebirthspoilers Rebirth 7th Infantry dialogue in Junon (canon) vs. Rebirth Aerith odd job (optional) making good on Cloud's word
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
Cleriths I honestly would not take that NPTK interview as an L, esp after I listened to it. CTs wave around just what was screencapped by the fan translator, but Nojima later said something more important IMO: "Destiny can be seen as a promise." And what is the name of the song?
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
So if Nojima says he wrote Aerith and Tifa to be good friends, and you think Aerith is a bad friend, doesn't that just mean...you're wrong?
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
Discussing CA with a quality people who bring so much insight and support to something we know is trivial in the scheme of things, but is somehow still so important to us. Maybe for the childlike concept it represents: the idea that sometimes, just sometimes, happy endings happen
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
Some of us are grown now, with full lives and responsibilities. But through this trilogy, we can enjoy as we did as children. We can SEE Aerith, in HD, laughing and crying and getting angry. In R1 when Cloud wakes up in her church, the awe of hearing her voice and theme music.
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
Or why do these C desk pics go out of their way to make it clear there is no CT contact, looking like kpop idols posing to avoid dating rumors or smth lol? And why include the yellow flowers so prominently in the foreground? From the field A stands in during credits? just gtfo
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
It’s 1997 and you’re a child desperately leafing through a walkthrough guide you begged mom to buy at the mall, hoping there was a way to bring Aerith back. The constant reminder in the compilation that Cloud just CANNOT FORGET. We were living off fumes haha.
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
Not all CTs, but always CTs...
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
Fireworks going off behind her as Cloud’s jaw drops. Rebirth gave us THEME SONGS on Spotify, hand holding, dream dates, and some small rainbow glimmer of hope that she will live and they will be happy and you really weren’t crazy at all to think they were in love.
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
There could be even more tie-ins and are tons of honorable mentions from Aerith's odd jobs with Cissnei or Barret/Nanaki's GS quests. Would love to see any you want to add too! But the fact remains that the intentionality and attention to detail here are not a coincidence...
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
Clerith fam, it would seem a CT alt posing as CA is sending death threats to antis in our threads. Would love some input here or if you have SS of the time they harassed NJM during NPTK interview outing them as CT. Some strange coincidences in this thread if you wanna see...
@Novial_Gold
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4 months
@BriocheGenie @DeputyARUUU @Saint_Pingu Hmm how interesting, that acct was outed as CT posing as a CA when they harrassed a dev, and strangely enough when I was going in to take SS to show you, the acct disappeared, minutes after your post. Timestamp in the SS. Wonder how that happened since you didn't even tag them...
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
them: COPE SEETHE MALD OVER MY KISS the kiss:
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@Novial_Gold
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@stlcards1547 @mlwjrpg "Next time a Clerith wants to argue with you using games, movies and print from the compilation, show them the double optional fanservice scene that should be considered separate from the main storyline" 🤸‍♀️🏅
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
Also a big part of the reason many people are CA is because they're also FF7 superfan lore junkies who have analyzed scenes and characters to the moon and back, making #their demented narrative twists even more frustrating
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
If you care to know how I would interpret, I'd say it's more "It's fine [to see it] as a usual love song". The other sentiments are saying he wanted it to have more depth than just that, to encompass more of her desires than just romance. Is that still kinda gaslighty? Yeah lol
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
@aerikkuras i mean i was genuinely curious how frogs and chasing a condor and body building and playing piano for cats was gonna come full circle
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
@angela_jp2024 In my opinion, this is a far more accurate translation and superior by virtue of being literal. People tiptoe around this, but I do think that the popular 'fan translators' who claim they are neutral actually approach their wording with an inherent bias in mind.
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
@RadiantAntiHero Denzel also has this ring on a necklace that Cloud either bought a new one of or gave him his own. What a nice guy 🙌
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
hard agree. i remember scrolling back and forth on my windows media player to see her again, over and over 😭 it also tied together so neatly the implication of those flower field photos and flowers on his desk!
@theoceanblooms
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4 months
I still don’t understand why they removed this from the credits.
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
@RadiantAntiHero "the case for tifa is pretty well established": proceeds to list off headcanon
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
@makiroll0108 i've arrived at the conclusion that these people are desperate for CA attention, like someone catcalling out the passenger's side of their best friend's ride. but maki don't want no scrubs!!
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
Don't know if it's my algo or what but JP Cleriths have been coming to PLAY lately and i am here for it
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
@finalfantasyvii The one and only Aerith, and it made the following chapters that much sweeter 👫
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
@GGore65002096 @mlwjrpg @BriocheGenie @Dizzy_Shark Yep, both that T is most important after Cloud (lol) and that Aerith makes things worse w/Holy. They all parrot each other really, then try to act like they have some purer love for the game bc they're "not shippers", but their bias to T always comes through - Max's and others.
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@Novial_Gold
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Like, SE is guilty of a few things but lazy writing is not one of them. All you have to do is ask yourself, "why is this in here?" Why TF would they write Aerith "making things worse" w Holy? Or have Marlene get knowledge from Aerith at all, then proceed to tell Z that A likes C?
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
@w_mikki55637 lmao especially when they have to crop and brighten the hell out of it to make it not off in a dark corner mid-zoom out
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
Like '普通に恋の歌いいんです' itself, I wouldn't interpret as saying "There's nothing wrong with a love song of course" (where even is the 'of course', i didn't hear a もちろん in there). No one wants to say it but translators can also be biased in how they present info.
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
John Eric Bentley's superb voice acting brought so many dimensions to Barret. His scenes ran the gamut of emotional evocation, from comical to heart-wrenching, managing to hit every beat out of the park while maintaining the gruff timbre throughout. Showed such care and skill!
@SquareEnix
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Barret’s English Voice Actor, John Eric Bentley, on bringing out the character’s softer, self reflective side - and his inspiration behind the voice.
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@Novial_Gold
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@mlwjrpg @BriocheGenie Holy destroying Meteor with the help of the LS (Holy/LS is all Aerith btw) is so clear at the OG end. You needed Holy and LS in their situation to destroy Meteor, period. How is this "worse" than no Holy at all? What was the better alternative by your "logic"?
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
Honestly, the fact that the official translation was so skewed, I thought it was a fan translation....we have bigger probs here
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
@TeamFlowerguard @sgwr1 please ignore this fake aerith fan, they are a cloti just trying to make aerith fans look bad:
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@BriocheGenie @DeputyARUUU @Saint_Pingu Hmm how interesting, that acct was outed as CT posing as a CA when they harrassed a dev, and strangely enough when I was going in to take SS to show you, the acct disappeared, minutes after your post. Timestamp in the SS. Wonder how that happened since you didn't even tag them...
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@Novial_Gold
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idk my 1st thought was that #their wish dot com kiss was compensation for "under the HW" scene not being in R3 at all, same w the LS sequence. SE has "no promises to keep at journey's end" 🥸 maybe i'm wrong but if it were my ship i'd keep those 360p shot on a potato ss to myself
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@Novial_Gold
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@KenMastersUSA @MargotXCloud @StrawberrieLamb @RadiantAntiHero @Hunt621820 @Earisu90716232 @mlwjrpg What converted me from being a silent lurker was how having to serve the louder fandom impacted Rebirth very negatively. The storytelling was so messy for it. I just refuse to see it get worse for the last game in this series without at least trying to add to CA numbers.
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@Novial_Gold
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@Moon_x_Cat We all know why 😞
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@Novial_Gold
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@aerithsclouds @strifeologia When she asked him, "Which is it, a memory or us?" my guy mentally astral projected to another plane of existence to give his answer, in plain view of anyone watching AC in perpetuity. And then they reference that same back-to-back with Aerith scene IN THE MOST RECENT GAME. Bruh.
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@RadiantAntiHero Wow they're really going for gold in mental gymnastics 🤸‍♀️ the fact that the flashback is at A's house alone should be enough. His mom also knows T and could've just said T. Aer takes the lead so much they say she's forcing herself on him 😂 there is no question who this was about
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
Also totally my bad, I didn't realize the subtitles were from the official video. I still stand by the rest of what I said about translation variances (including being careful with any fan translations) but it's my mistake thinking that the original subtitles were fan translated
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
like let's just be so f-ing for real right now
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@Novial_Gold
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@BriocheGenie @DeputyARUUU @Saint_Pingu For the same reason they harrass a dev while posing as a CA, to make the community look bad. It isn't the first or last time this has happened and it clearly worked on you. But please rest assured, I'm determined to learn more about this.
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
17 秒、17秒、51秒... どういう意味かなー
@anaguran2
あなぐら
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改めて1回目のGSデートの相手に選ばれなかった各キャラの反応みてて今更気づいたけど、ぼっちで回るクラウドがエアリス以外の女性陣に話しかけると簡潔な通常の会話だけで終わるんだね…エアリスに話しかけるとご存知のとおりこれなんで………
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@mlwjrpg My god, the way that clot slung ad hominems and fanfics at Margot bc they had no valid arguments, in the style of most clots. And Margot just comes back with cold hard facts so calmly bc it's obvious the clot is pressed 😂 feels like I just got served breakfast thank youuu 🙏🏽
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
I really try to keep an open mind, but no one will ever convince me that anyone except Aerith is canon Rosa. First pic from EC, second two from Rebirth.
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@mujyakisan These "subtleties" are why I don't see them as the neutral source they and even other CAs tout them to be. Anyone can say they are neutral ane maybe even believe it, but their choices speak for themselves.
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@KenMastersUSA these people never ask themselves why on god's green earth would the writers and developers choose such a weird narrative vehicle, like 'heroine who holds the fate of the world in her literal hands forces feelings onto main protagonist while he lets her down easy for hours.' ???
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@Novial_Gold
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@Kim_Lilly The camera pans in and she moves forward, and we really shouldn't have to dissect it this much if it existed in the first place lmao
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@Novial_Gold
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@RadiantAntiHero OMG I'd never even seen the dialogue you get for not taking pics of her bc I and everyone else I've seen obviously followed the prompt. The selfie happens regardless baaahahahahahahaha 🤣
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@Novial_Gold
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goonwind bahahahahaha this is so good and we could STILL add more to this already hilarious list (aer is jenova 🙄 nptk is about everyone 🙄 cloud is being forced 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄)
@lunali_lu
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Here's your bingo board for CTs who try to discredit CA! 😂😂😂
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@AerithCloud3 @mudiscorp5227 Agree, he still comes at it from this angle of, "anything special she gets is because she dies" kind of thing. He's one of those who seems to pride himself on being above shipping, but in his playthrough of OG he also named C after himself and T after his wife so....yeah
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@Novial_Gold
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Ok but how romantic would it be for Cloud's mind to be fixed by being able to identify "his" Aerith among Jenova fakes 🌝
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@Novial_Gold
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@xPolyMorphic excellent word choice...
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@Novial_Gold
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5 months
Unpopular opinion I guess, but I liked the EN "Promise!" at the end bc I interpreted "No Promises to Keep at Journey's End" to mean that CA will settle all unresolved requests between them in Part 3. Then be together forevermore so they won't ever have to promise to meet again.
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@Novial_Gold
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@lunali_lu Of course we love it - the dates, the selfie(!!), the last two chapters - so many things. Cloud not moving a muscle to get on Tiny Bronco until he'd spoken to Aerith, after either staring at her or her empty materia before that. We're feasting, they're lying. What's new lol.
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@Novial_Gold
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and like clockwork, here come the out-of-context screengrabs of jokes countering their rhetoric or straight up irrelevant copy-pastes. also hard to believe you "found these" right above my tweet cropped the way they are...
@LostBoiRoronoa
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@Novial_Gold Funny enough I found these pics right above your tweet lmao
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@KenMastersUSA Absolutely. Their response to being pushed to back up their claims go a bingo card of ways: they tap out, they say "I said this to someone earlier," they fixate on unrelated points, double down when asked for evidence by telling us to find it ourselves lol, "the devs said," etc..
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@MargotXCloud The way their minds work needs to be studied. They're truly living miserable lives in a very strange reality they built for themselves, by twisting facts then broadcasting that nonsense. All to feed their fixation on being "right" and trying to exhaust anyone who sees they aren't
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@Saint_Pingu ahh Ryan that person specifically has had the "confidence" for what seems like decades in this fandom. i remember seeing him around doing the same unfounded condescension back when i was a lurker years ago. not worth your time, it's a logic-free brick wall, better to block.
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@Novial_Gold
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@ProScitor 🤣🤣🤣 the exact laugh i needed after flipping out hahaha thank you
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@MargotXCloud so done w their harassment, they can keep their bleak color palette shadowy AF bummer ass cinematography and all the disharmony that comes w it
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
imma just say it now and maybe i'll be proven wrong, but that ultimania interview makes it sound like there already was a highwind scene, and it happened in an optional gold saucer gondola 😂
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@Zakksu Absolutely same as you. I wouldn't want them to kiss in the 2nd game of a trilogy, in a forgettable moment never to be spoken of again, without the best rendering or shot design or hell even lighting. So anticlimactic. If they are happy, love that for them but don't pretend igaf.
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@RadiantAntiHero Another slam dunk my friend 👏 since people need everything explained to them lol, you did a great job walking people through the logic and context here👍
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@MEMON47262378 Hmm I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I'd imagine they still see the overall "it's about so many things" as a cop-out (I agree) because that sentiment is there no matter the translation. The lyrics are so romantic and the marketing was too, so feels silly to deny that now.
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so beautiful, love the shading and outlines too gorgeous artstyle 😍😍😍
@astercat_
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Every moment matters #Clerith #FF7
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@KenMastersUSA omg look mom i made it to a CT SS post lmao! see you on the next poll ken 🤝 haha but fr though, so comical that the post and comments are just demonstrative of your point. they tag you to instigate then talk abt it not being worth their time to debate? what's the point then?
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@explorilori @KenMastersUSA She is asking him to play along through his confusion about the scenario, there was not a confession immediately before that so saying she is asking the guy to play along cannot be in response to her feelings. What part do you interpret as him dodging Aerith?
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@Novial_Gold
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@Lems_88 that gaming channel on YT has the most click-baity anti-aerith titles too, his audience is skewed in the first place
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@Novial_Gold
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@Nanayuna__ cleriths are the nicest folks ever
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@Yuurei_cosplay Yes exactly this. Even their fave Max does not think it matters. It is so weird to see them talk about conversations that do not happen. "Cleriffs have been saying blah blah" are these Cleriffs in the room with us now?
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@stlcards1547 @mlwjrpg hahahaha wow I thought this would be from before Ulti or even Max video but this is from TODAY 🤣 you're so right, they must feel it deep down and ramped up their craziness.
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@MargotXCloud exactly, like how hard is it to understand that just bc we want A kiss does not = we want YOUR kiss. that's their debate style though, they require you to handhold them through each obvious sentence while they nitpick and look for any tiny opportunity for a "gotcha" on syntax
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@Novial_Gold
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4 months
@Clear_Liqueur Cait Sith did say he'd be their preacher 🐈‍⬛💍
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4 months
@KenMastersUSA Was gonna say, they made at least two whole ass threads calling you out, one for liking a (hilarious) meme on top of a meme mentioning a dev. But this directly on SE official video of a VA?
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5 months
@Clear_Liqueur @4evertreestar the same opening sequence where she gets bumped on loveless street and drops the flower, but as she reaches for it, his hand appears too and their fingers touch, then he hands it to her and says that ahhh brb gotta weep
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4 months
@mlwjrpg My friend, you say that and I kid you not there is someone in the comments of this post who used a pic of CA quotes edited onto a pic of A in the LS sequence, but doesn't show the poster/creator of this pic...
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@Novial_Gold
Alta
4 months
This edit by @zipperchariots is so beautiful 🥹 as Barret would say, "Once you find your soulmate, you never let 'em go."
@OddManJack
JACK
4 months
@reblokha This edit is mind-blowing 🤯 I love the song, and a montage is simply superb 🔥🔥🔥 As for the edit that lives rent-free in my head, I'll go with this one: (P.S. if anyone knows the author of it - please tell me so that I could credit them)
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@Novial_Gold
Alta
4 months
@LeHoaNguyen4 nothing you said was wrong, aggressive, or even about aerith haha. i've always thought that many neutral ppl end up CA partly bc of CTs harrassing anyone who doesn't worship T. but hey you're famous now! maybe you'll be on the next poll 😂
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@Novial_Gold
Alta
5 months
@NEARSH0RE tysm! we are getting so many meaningful scenes for CA, will be fun to keep finding more 🤍
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@Novial_Gold
Alta
4 months
part 3: they play "cloud smiles" from AC in the church, but instead of walking away from him, she's walking towards him in her wedding dress
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@Novial_Gold
Alta
5 months
@MaximumEffort__ between that and the Cait Sith OG "I'll be your preacher", the struggle not to get my hopes up is v real
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