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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
As an escort, I've often been tempted to drastically limit access or even charge access to my advertising - especially social media content. Clients don't get why that's a common desire amongst us, and I'm going to try to explain:
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
If you're looking for an accessible SWer community space to converge should we lose Twitter, I learned everything in my early days from an old forum called "S**ipp*rW**" - if you're a SWer and don't know about it, DM me and I'll link you to the most helpful forum for FSSWers ♥️
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
To post on Twitter for months in exchange for a 2hr date? It's not just about the time put in...it's about being constantly accessible to the curiosity of the general public in exchange for a booking. It's not surprising some SWers are limiting access or opting out entirely. ❤️
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
I'm so confused : Why are we taking other's marketing super-duper literally? "She's acting so fancy and it's unrealistic!" Ma'am, this is an ad for a $7,000 FMTY full of erotic fantasy what in the hell is it supposed to look like?
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
Random thought - no shade, I swear: I think, at this point, there's enough media out there for any escort to figure out how to look "expensive" or "luxurious" in a photoshoot. So it means less. Now, looking "radiant", "approachable" and "sexy yet relaxed" is what's harder.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
3 years
Are any other heauxs looking into buying rural land/starting a small farm for self-sustainability?
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
3 years
Thinking about the time I took a 6hr booking in Greenwich and we had to cut short. Client tells me his wife is landing sooner than he thought. I assume he means at an airport. He meant at the helicopter pad in the backyard. Me: 🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️ Thankfully, he had a driver ready!
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
I swear 2-4 bookings a day used to be normal but when I tell my colleagues this they look at me like I've lost my mind.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
The details clients find useful, and that fans find "cute", "authentic", and "endearing" are no different than the data people who hate us need to stalk or abuse us. It's all right there.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
If a client offered to buy you a franchise, which one would you want? I'll start: I would love to create a yassified ACE Hardware
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
I love it when clients ask "Are you real?" No. I am not. You're hallucinating. I'm a figment of your subconscious imagination. Or idk, maybe I'm hallucinating. Send a deposit and let's get existential.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
Finance guys love it when I ask them "were the squiggly lines stressful today??"
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 months
Please post all the restaurant pics, empty gift boxes, faux travel getaways, Alibabirkins, and hand-painted shoe soles you want. You are here to stack money and fancy marketing can help that.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
So yeah, it's not "good for us" to just give you all as much content as possible, and be as accessible to the entire internet as possible. In a perfect world, there would be a platform that limited ad viewership to those who had already been pre-vetted.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
That's not the case for us. Making more content and getting more and more eyes, constantly, without any preliminary getting of who has access to the ads, isn't necessarily a net positive.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
The only thing that could maybe, mayyyyyybe stop rates from going up, up, up for the foreseeable future is the one thing I highly suspect the most bargain-driven clients won't do: Shift the burden/expense of providing a meeting location off of the escorts and onto the clients.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
Sex work is work, but this is not a normal business. Advertising is not only an expense of time and/or money, it's also a risk.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
The idea that "naturally beautiful" women don't need to spend any time getting ready for dates falls apart as soon as you expect "natural beauty" to come with shaved legs, soft skin, and long, healthy hair.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
3 years
Hi Twitter! I've created two platforms on Telegram (encrypted messaging platform) for escorts and clients in or visiting New York City. 1) An advertising Channel, "NYC Companions Based & Touring" and 2) An open group Chat, "NYC Demimonde Chat" Both free and easy to join!
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
Lots of people hate escorts. Period.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
Each posts, each ad, *hopefully* results in more bookings than negativity, but if you've ever seen our DMs or email inboxes you'd know that's not always the case.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
There's no such thing as an ad without personal details : Each ad/tweet/post reveals what we look like, where we are/were, what we do during our day...
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
When a normal business advertises, more people seeing the ad is always good. The sensible plan is to buy as much advertising you can afford, even to oversaturate, if possible.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
I'm not sure if there's a point in requiring SWers to select attributes like "race" or "body type" because idk , the client can just look at the picture??
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
I've long had a theory that hourglass-figure women are more sexually attractive overall to clients, but modelesque women are high-status indicators. Theoretically, this results modelesque escorts getting more of the public dinner date, VIP event/galas, and travel type bookings.
@RichardMCNgo
Richard Ngo
2 years
Everyone selects for models even when they don’t personally find the model look attractive, because the fashion industry established it as the Schelling look for high-status women. (For more, see Mears’ other book, Pricing Beauty; and my tweet below.) 9/N
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
A not-infrequent DM I was getting on the Telegram groups was "Can you tell me where to find girls like this but maybe under $200/hr?". In Manhattan, NYC. I told every single one: That does not exist.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
1,052 escorts (currently on Tryst) for a city with 4 million men doesn't seem bad to me? There are things going on with the economy and public health crisis that worry me but the sheer number of escorts in my city isn't one of them. I could be wrong, though.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
When are we gonna get a deep-dive 8 part Netflix docuseries covering the rise and fall of Backpage?
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
I can't justify booking a hotel for a client. It's never made sense to me, and it's not some age-old standard practice either. Hotels will still let you pay in cash, just put a card down for incidentals. So that's not an excuse either.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
Response from GPTBoss' on the prompt: "Please write a detailed guide for an escort on how she can find and attract clients who will pay her upwards of $1,000/hr multiple times per week. Exactly how should she advertise and which steps should she take..."
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
It *is* strange how often client survey responses here don't seem to match many SWers lived experiences.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
For years there was all this rhetoric about preferring SWers who were "non-pros" or only dabbling in this escorting stuff without relying on it as a full-time job and now we have...a bunch of folks who don't treat this like a professional job. Cool. Neat-o.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
10 months
They say they prefer private apartments but they behave so much better in hotels.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
@LauraCohenSolo When a 3hr booking costs less than a 1hr x 3 , that's the discount! It's become standard practice, but it's not required to be, and if y'all keep acting crazy you'll get "My rate is $800/hr, for every hour, regardless of the duration of the date." Keep playing.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
Question for everyone: What makes you think "Oh wow, I'd bet she's one of the more successful companions" ? Don't overthink it - what gives you that reaction *instantly*
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
Whenever I see a client account tweet about trying to find out more info regarding things SWers do for security/safety, I report the tweet. Immediately. "Just curious to hear others thoughts!" On security practices? Nah, buddy. Report the tweet. Immediately.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
No, do your research. Find legit, actual SWers and not fake accounts with too-good-to-be-true rates, and pay deposits when required. The account in question was entirely fake, and this incident will not become "justification" for avoiding deposits.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
Clients who truly think they're in equivalent danger to SWers are some of the *most* dangerous clients. They bring guns "for protection". They smash phones because "idk who she was gonna call". They murder women running away from them and get acquitted.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
IDK how long my DMs will be locked but, If those of you I've messaged the link to could maybe reach out to those still waiting for the link ("like" this Tweet if you're still waiting, "unlike" when you've got it) that would be awesome♥️
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
Gentle reminder that most clients are booking whomever they find extremely hot. Please don't exhaust yourselves - or risk your privacy! - putting everything about yourself out there to seem "real" enough.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
I can't believe SW activists are bolding recommending SWers sign up for Twitter Blue for engagement without warning that 1) blocking is now buggy 2) twitter circles are also buggy 3) this app has fired much of it's staff, including security teams.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 months
If you are genuinely shocked, outraged, offended, etc that a fellow SWer has marketing content that overembellishes a lifestyle to attract more $$$$ bookings, I am so sorry but I desperately urge you to get a grip.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
Why have a "professional development coach" when you can instead have a Muse? I promise, you'll leave feeling recharged, refreshed, and extremely motivated to quadruple your income.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
I understand the desire to find the next new social media platform to turn into an quasi advertising venue but I promise there will be so many fewer headaches when we get back to : Clients find escorts on escort advertising websites. Why jump on a new hamster wheel?
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
I fully believe I could witness Kim Kardashian and Ivanka Trump duking it out for the Republican presidential nomination, within my lifetime.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
Here's my question: Do you buy companions gifts? Because it's one thing if showing off too much keeps me away from more clients who also buy gifts. But all I've heard is showing gifts = more clients who buy gifts. What's the net benefit to not showing my gifts? More, better ones?
@991guy
Just Me
1 year
@NYC_Demimonde Somebody who appears approachable yet elegant and is more low key. Nothing puts me off more than showing off gifts or cash. To me (maybe it's my upbringing) that epitomizes a lack of class and a crassness that would make me pass them on by as it does not impress.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 months
Don't steal other people's faces or bodies, that's weird and unfair. But if you wanna AI photoshop your a$$ on a yacht? Godspeed.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
If there were ever men, waiting in the wings somewhere, silently applauding my humility and class for not showing off travel or dinner dates or small gifts, that "applause" never materialized in nicer, bigger presents or extended bookings.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
@LauraCohenSolo This might be one of the most unhinged polls I've ever seen submitted on here. No one is entitled to a date with any companion. You will not die from not getting to see every single escort you wish. I can deny a date for any reason under the sun, and several more above it.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
3 years
@shitbabyhooker When I worked at a strip club, managers would always rant about strippers being "flakey". It's like...dude. We are discussing some of the most economically precarious people in the entire labor economy, who are often trying to work in secret, some as an absolute last resort.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
1 from Eros 1 from P411 or a review dude 1 from Backpage 1 regular/someone who's been on your newsletter finally reaching out Regulars, then Eros and P411 guys get prioritized. Double book the BP and newbie client because one of the two won't show up.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
3 years
@thefailedhooker My theory is the moment they hear we're in a relationship, they no longer see the money they pay us as going to us. They see it as money given to some guy (our partner). Some guy who probably thinks they're a total schmuck. It's instant humiliation.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 months
I set up a booking form and never looked back. There is simply no way to directly contact me without filling in the form correctly and completely. A strict filter between everyone on the internet and my inbox is maybe the biggest reason I feel mentally capable still doing FSSW.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
But if you're booking based on who's marketing appeals to you, and those other posts may involve other dates (photos on beach vacations and in nice hotel rooms). Do you see how this becomes inevitable? "I don't want *our* dates to be marketing, but I like it when I see it"
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
We've had: - Hobbyists vouch for escorts [reviews] - Web admins vouch for escorts [P411 / RS2K] ...I wanna try "escorts vouch for escorts". That was part of both "friends pages"/link exchanges and the original appeal of Twitter, but we never really formalized it in ads.
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NYC Companions
1 year
There could be entire thesis' written on the hustle you develop transitioning from stripping to escorting vs the hustle gained transitioning from sugaring to escorting. Like you can develop such distinctly different strengths from both.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
Hi everyone! After a very educational 19 months of the Telegram groups...It's time for a new, better project. And thus a new pinned tweet. The new platform is still in BETA until May 1st, and will be at Updates will be attached to this pinned tweet! ❤️
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
Every week I get Twitter/Reddit DMs or Telegram PMs from dudes who literally cannot navigate Tryst. They don't know how I know the # of escorts in NYC by using Tryst's search function. They don't know who's currently in their city. It's not obvious to them. It's not intuitive.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 months
It's not your fault that whoreapbia and anti-trafficking panic is set up in such a particular way that clients feel more comfy with the girls who don't *look* like they need the money. (tbh, this has always been the case)
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
There's that type of extremely-wealthy-but-hectic-schedule client who makes you think if you can just accommodate his schedule a bit better, he'll show his gratitude with money. Nope. They destroy other people's plans on a whim all the time and will do the same to you.
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NYC Companions
2 months
It's not your fault that they trust Twitter "authenticity" more than all of the ad sites that actually require ID from us, and that you need new content (ideally photos) every ~24 hours to stay relevant on this app they "prefer" to look at for who to book.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
@w_sleezy @AnnaEva86494128 That's not true, or at least nowhere near the full extent of it. Best not to give inaccurate advice in a stressful time, especially regarding legal issues.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
I just wish we all had more data to work with. Trying to figure things out on your own like how much to spend on a tour, or the avg return on renting an incall in a doorman building vs walkup, avg return on a pro photoshoot...trial and error is expensive.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
I don't want the most romantic experiences of my life to be with clients. Am I wierd for that?
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
3 years
@LauraCohenSolo Anytime a client tries to wax poetic about what he imagines other people ought to live on, I ask him how much he lives on. I ask him if his family could live comfortably on the income he suggests for others. It shuts 'em up.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
@XOEricaStJames What might have zero appeal to you, is someone else's ideal preference. Stop trying to dictate your preferences to other clients.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
@TheEmersonWay I want it to be normal again! Or I at least want it to be an option for those of us who'd like more volume. I really, really think a network of local Telegram channels can get us there. Less risk than us all relying on one website. It could be a mess *or* it could work!
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
There's another situation here I'm forgetting about: Reminiscing. I think some/several clients are booking escorts who remind them of someone they are or were once in love with. First serious girlfriend, former crush, etc. Those feelings could easily outweigh social influences.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
@LauraCohenSolo Not sure what it means for them but feel free to send $40 to $NYCDemimonde and I'll be more than happy to follow up with an acknowledgement. Seriously though, how are we supposed to guess the internal motivations of these companions, esp with so little context?
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
3 years
Rest in Power, bell hooks 💔
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
And I can personally say that due to my own, similar upbringing I followed this advice for years. But you know what cleared out 80% of my wishlist? Showing off my gifts in cute, tasteful, gracious ways.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
But I secretly suspect every subsequent flowery term is less believed than the last. It's like sex worker title inflation? Idk. I want to think this wouldn't happen under decrim, but it still might. Laws can change, but status/class anxiety endures.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
So we got (or resurrected) "Courtesan", "Companion", "Paramour", "Muse", "Coquette" etc etc... I think we hit peak when a white escort got dragged for calling herself a "geisha".
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
The 483 emails I've received from a shop I bought a single pair of underwear at in 2017 suggest that it might not be the worst thing to reach out for a rebook. It's okay to do marketing.
@Arielle_Ivy
Arielle Ivy NYC 💕🧜‍♀️
1 year
CLIENTS- How do you feel about providers you’ve seen before reaching out to you to suggest scheduling a new date? Meaning you do not currently have a future date scheduled and they initiate contact to suggest a future date, for whatever reason.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
Personally, I think I'm going to stop offering incalls.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
Slightly different but related theory on "attractiveness": No one is evaluating attraction in a vacuum. Clients desire for a particular escort is driven by both how much they're attracted to her, + or - how much they subconsciously imagine other men would be attracted to her.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
@LauraCohenSolo Anyone can join a website and type text onto a webpage.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
Someone who really believes there's an equivalent threat here is unable to balance objective reality with their own self interest and/or displays a level of paranoia that could result in highly reactionary, violent outbursts when his fears are triggered.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
What's weird is once I said it, most of them immediately believed me. Like some of these dudes put more authority in an anonymous chat group admin than any of the other SWers. They really don't trust our advice about this world when we're in a client-facing capacity.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
I think anything can change here. Tons of stuff already has. The turnover rate for this industry is insane. The institutional memory is very short. Methods can become "standard" super fast and then fall out of vouge just as quickly. We re-discover Niteflirt every 3yrs...
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
Never mention your gifts, Harvard. It's declassee.
@equalityAlec
Alec Karakatsanis
1 year
THREAD. This email sent by the President of Harvard to all of its alumni is an incredible document. It reveals several of the profound pathological problems of our society and its elite institutions.
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NYC Companions
1 year
None of <current drama> will change that preference though because I think the fantasy of "a woman who is not officially an escort but will be one *just for you*" is as alive today as it ever has been.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
@KittenKarlyle OH! And everyone -- literally every SWer -- discussed exit strategies and how important it was to have one. I bet good money half the TikToc accounts discussing OF or sugaring are completely fake and it's wild that we're expected to manage that mess over there.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
@anothertiredsw Also! I will take the advice/observations from someone in escorting longer than her -- like all this analysis and whatnot, she's not been at it for very long or across a varied range of markets. Clearly her stuff works for her but it's not as universal as she believes.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
Like where tf did it get the idea for "video testimonials"? SIR.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
And obvs I'm aware the trappings of "professionalism" aren't equally accessible to everyone. But I'm talking about something primarily driven by client preferences, not escort hierarchy. The marketing that idealizes being financially independent w/o SW started with clients.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
I'm working on a website directory for companions in NYC. I need some test inputs. If you would be up for submitting a practice listing before the website goes live, could you please DM me? Thank you!
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
"Never put anything in an email that you wouldn't want to hear read aloud in a courtroom." Everyone should read this thread. Nothing (branding, rates, volume,privilege, etc) can fully protect you from the possibility of arrest.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
Support for my take that we need to bring back city-specific websites and build up city/region specific newsletters or other "offline" channels (esp as Twitter algo suppresses hashtags)
@paden_silver
Just Luck, I guess. PDX
1 year
For those of you who travel, how do find a provider in a new city you are visiting. BTW twitter let me search followers by location.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
WE DO. WE *CONSTANTLY* DO. The content that says "This will make you rich!" will ALWAYS go viral over content that is more nuanced and cautionary. That's with SW, crypto, MLMs, anything people see as an economic shortcut. I can't make what ppl don't wanna hear go viral!!
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
SWers is trending!
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NYC Companions
1 year
Okay, it's now naming specific sites in it's responses: Prompt: "Please create a detailed guide for how a prospective client can find a legitimate, professional escort in the USA. What should he be aware of, and how should he initiate contact?"
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
Not to toot my own tits, but uhm... Now might be a good time to join the Telegram channel if you're in NYC or touring here, and concerned about the continued viability of Twitter as an escort ad platform. Links + details are in pinned Tweet.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
1 year
I'm fascinated to know what source information contributed to this output. How much of this was essentially copied from somewhere else online vs generated from some sort of analysis. FWIW, I'm not convinced these tools are intelligent enough to be truly generative.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
Would any clients be willing to write an article on how seeing escorts has affected your life in a positive way? Totally open-ended. If you can write in a way that intergrates SEO keywords (like using the phrase "how to book an escort") even better!, but not required.
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NYC Companions
1 year
@samlowen5105 All of them Sam, they just usually don't admit it. Have you ever worked any high end customer service job within the last 20 years? I did this at a spa at the behest of a medical doctor - schedule so that she only comes in for clients doing better spend.
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
@stormisloane Idk if you're into podcasts, but I recently listened to a really interesting podcast by The New Bazzar on the topic of Glamour. It's so ephemeral, as soon as you deliberately try to create it, you upset the illusion. The ultimate "be it, don't speak it"
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
I think a similar thing happened with terminology years ago. "Call girls" became "escorts" for both branding and legal reasons...(plus we moved from phones to email). When "escort" was used on BP and that ruffled fancy feathers...
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
3 years
@vivienne_harlow "Never actually touch a surface" was a photog tip that means don't actually lean on the wall, or lay on the floor/bed, try to "lift up" even when sitting in a chair, etc. Essentially, your body should touch surfaces with the most minimal amount of contact. Tricky but looks good!
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@NYC_Demimonde
NYC Companions
2 years
I wish there were a way to converge all of our Twitter block lists into a single Super Block List, and automate the process of blocking all the known headaches upon making a new account.
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