Let's just clear something up. No other form of technology took other people's work, time, effort and skill and repackaged it and sold to strictly enrich themselves up until now.
Actual propaganda from a company embroiled in a class action lawsuit that's gone to discovery. Desperate attempt to sway the public perception of their plagiarism machine.
Since they hate copyright protection so much they should have no problem with, encourage us even, to repost their AI generated content anywhere we want for any reason we want. Fair is fair afterall, right? And they should be eager to lead the charge and set a good example. ^_^
Good AI is being used to identify and predict patterns in medical and scientific data.
This commercial trash is being used to launder existing work and force its programmers biases onto the masses.
So, the same group that wants to abolish copyright protection for everyone else also desperately wants to have full ownership over AI generated outputs and prompts.
🤦🤦🤦
Artists being out of work and the consumer being delivered an inferior product are not good things.
I cannot see many people rushing out to purchase AI generated entertainment when they can generate it at home.
Big IP needs to understand it's a losing strategy. 🤷
@Rahll
Now imagine a world without talented artists, writers and film makers.
It's a world where a camera flying down a roadway is called "entertainment".
To the surprise of no one.
Soon were going to see "Proudly human crafted" labels on everything as the modern day assurance of quality.
Yes, I'm old enough to remember "Union made" stickers.
Apparently using the term "AI" in marketing makes people LESS likely to make a purchase.
Just like crypto and NFTs before it, AI is now a dirty word that the average consumer wants to steer clear of. Congrats big tech, you did it again.
AI "artist": "AI grants me the the freedom to express myself freely and bring my ideas to life!"
AI: *declines every request it's programmers don't like*
Yeah, some freedom. I've never seen a pen and paper tell anyone what they aren't allowed to think, have you?
*Cough, cough* "Artists" using gAI are not "hardworking, innovative creators".
They are only looking to pump out the most meaningless spam in the shortest time while exploiting true creative geniuses.
@APMI93301887
@rationalaussie
@GaryMarcus
False equivalency. A human can and will adapt regardless.
Take AI's training data (which is all human created anyway) away, and all you have is a framework that cannot and will not do anything.
@Rahll
It feels to me like he's more trying to convince himself of his greatness. Those who are honestly confident in their work don't usually "defend" it like this.
@Rahll
I think they are aiming to be the first and last authority on all data and information. And if by chance that actually is the case, that should worry everyone.
There is a reason why everything AI generated looks like a cheap rip off of other things - because that's actually all it really is.
Now how about we stop with the silly waste of resources and start curing cancer?
Does anyone else find it odd that these genAI corporations are so obsessed with stopping "mean" content, yet the intended use cases they, themselves push are sicker, meaner and more damaging than the worst content it could possibly generate?
Things that will never exist:
-ASI
-AGI
Things that don't exist:
-Artificial intelligence
Things that do exist:
-Advanced algorithms capable of predicting the statistically most likely outcome based on known data
Any questions?
Yes. And
@Rahll
has provided rock solid proof of this.
Furthermore, the amount of blatantly trademark™ infringing content, even from the "safest 🙄" image gen models is still astronomical.
Next!
@Rahll
I agree with you completely, Reid.
And what makes it even worse are these "e/acc" lackeys running around defending this garbage with no regards for anyone else.
@Rahll
I wonder what these "important problems" are?
Solving the problems AI created?
"We made a contraption that makes doing bad things easy, now we fix, we is heroes now!"
Recipe for AI movie:
- Several thousand existing movies
- 100 cups of urine
- 6000 tablespoons of feces
- Add mixture to blender and blend until smooth
- Pour blended mixture into cheap dollar store moulds
- Bake with 7 trillion watts of power for 19 minutes and serve.
@Rahll
I remember when I was actively making art it was common to have "people" say to me that because some teenager is drawing fan art in MSpaint for $5.00 a picture, that automatically means I should too.
No concept of time, effort and expertise.
@Rahll
Maybe it's a sign that the technology isn't reliable enough for high-stakes use as of yet.
They are all so eager to show off how tech savy they are until the "whoops" moment.
All this just so lazy people can generate unwanted spam for internet brownie points.
All this just so its programmers can force their personal beliefs onto others.
So dystopian, isn't it?
AI bro: Hey artist! You should do the art for nothing!
Artist: And how would you feel if you were short changed at your job?
AI bro: WTF is "job"!!!???
@Jelenawrites
I think it's because there are a lot of big production and publishing companies that want to utilize this technology, that's why we haven't seen the same level of forceful legal pushback we'd see in similar situations.
Sigh.
No, Claude did not “wake up”.
It is not conscious. It is not sentient
Anyone who thinks it is is projecting, and needs to seriously reconsider their life choices.
The thing we need is more accountability and stiffer penalties for individuals who share extremely harmful content and the sites that host it, whether it's AI generated or not.
@Rahll
"I'm an artist developing my own style! Sref-1000901, Sref-1000902, Sref-1000903, Sref-1000904, Sref-1000905, Sref-1000906... Just you wait! Imma find my style!!!"
🙄
@Rahll
All else aside, this thing looks and feels like a typical internet scam ad.
"You too can make $1000 overnight!*
*But first you need to invest $100k and no guarantee on anything."
Imagine this: AI generators, but they only train on data from people who want to participate, the programmers keep their ignorant opinions and propaganda to themselves and the final product is accurately advised as being for personal entertainment only?
Let's direct an AI movie!
Scene one: Character turns head, camera pans down.
Scene two: Character turns head, camera pans up.
Scene three: Character turns head, camera zooms out.
Scene four: Character turns head, fades to black.
...Very exciting...
Think about it. These "people" are desperately defending a computer program that serves no greater purpose than to regenerate existing media and is run by some of the biggest dipshits of our lifetime.
They are in no position to throw shade on anyone.
On Twitler, I've been called a communist for saying that websites should not fudge the narrative to suit their needs and a fascist for saying everyone's art should not be free to use.
Amazing. ❤
So, its officially gone from "it's going to solve all the worlds problems" to "copyright bad"
At least they are finally coming out with their true intentions, I guess. 🤷♂️
Yes, ripping people's hard work off, the ability to create deceptive and malfeant content in seconds and bringing 1984 to life is the critical "innovation" that we all desperately need.
Thank you Governor
@GavinNewsom
for vetoing SB-1047 -- your pro-innovation leadership is much appreciated!
And to the many people who've been pushing back on SB-1047, a huge thank you as well. Congratulations to all -- we won! 🎉
Looking ahead, lets keep on protecting AI
The consumer is going to get so fed up with half baked, unreliable, aggravating and dangerous AI and other automated systems that the demand for human quality will skyrocket.
@Rahll
I can't help but feel this Bartlobotomy guy is intentionally trolling at this point for as much attention as possible.
If he actually is serious... I can't even say it.
Isn't it funny how as the data ran out the "improvments" in LLMs slowed and stopped?
Really makes it look like it's more about the data than the actual model, doesn't it.
Not true. LLMs "hallucinate" due to either a lack of data (they then fill in the blanks with whatever most closely fits the pattern) or miscalculation. Humans hallucinate due to brain injury or intentional malice (lying).
The more I see of this so called "AI video", the more obvious it becomes that's it's doing absolutely nothing more than adding a different texture pattern overtop of an existing base. Come to think of it, image generators likely do the same.
Maybe get a blister on your little finger, maybe get a blister on your thumb! We gotta type these complicated prompts, custom image automation! We gotta prompt these stolen images! Gotta pretend we're working real hard!
@YuliiaReyesArt
Holy momma! Schizophrenia 2 just dropped 😳
It only takes one (1) company not wanting to be part of the exploitation of vulnerable people for these worms to lose it and start writing wall of text on twitter dot com.
AI, and especially machine learning, is a fantastic technology when used properly.
Using it to rip off other people's work so some 50yo basement dwellers can score internet points, thought police and spy on people are major abuses of the tech. Period.
@_ceee_
And that's great! I've always been incredibly supportive of that. I just don't see why those who do not wish to give away their personal property/skill should be forced to.
Hot take: How about we shut down the commercial generative algorithms corporations and have those who were behind it manually clean up all the garbage that they caused the internet to be polluted with? 😊
Isn't it amazing how politicians worldwide have been running on the fear that "so and so is taking your jobs!!!" for generations, yet are completely silent on the issue that AI is doing that en masse?
Very peculiar, no? 🤔
@Rahll
Having been involved in the online art community for a quarter of a century, I cannot count all the stories of struggle and hardship I've read...
I've just been informed by a very reliable source (AI bro) that working hard, earning money and purchasing the items you desire and robbery are exactly the same thing since both scenarios end in you receiving something you wanted.
🤦♂️
Artists deserve way more respect. Your work is sacred! It is much too valuable to be diminished into mere training fodder for some pitiful algorithm. ♥️
How online bot propaganda works.
Queen bee bot: Posts initial disinformation.
Worker drone bots: Spam messages of agreement of OP in order to create the illusion that "everyone agrees", no need to search further.
Any questions?