To understand why Cloud and Aerith didn't kiss on their date, you have to understand cues and context.
More importantly, you have to understand that context in relation to Cloud. (1/7)
FF7 developers:
"Let's reveal that Aerith likes Cloud to Zack, also let's make Loveless a parallel to Cloud and Aerith. Let's have Aerith sing a love song about Cloud, no! She writes it! And it's the theme song of the entire game."
Yep, nothing intentional there whatsoever.
Why I believe No Promises to Keep is about Cloud:
The lyrics reference cobblestone streets which Sector 5 doesn't have. Aerith didn't venture up onto the plate until after Zack left. The opening of Remake references "people rushing to their own rhythm" on Loveless Street. (1/4)
"Why are you so confident about Cloud and Aerith?"
Oh I don't know. Lots of things.
...Maybe because the ending of Rebirth has the same composition as Remake Chapter 14. 😌
#clerith
Here’s some shots of Cloud and Aerith from the Orchestra World Tour official pamphlet.
Overall, this concert really must be experienced by every FFVII fan. It's worth all the counters against it (money, travel time). Please attend! 🙏 (10/10)
BIG
#CLERITH
THING - No Promises to Keep, orchestral version! Everyone needs to hear this live. Stunning, an absolute highlight for me and I’m sure for others. This was also Aerith's date version. We got to see her sing it from start to finish. (7/10)
#Clerith
things
They did Aerith’s version for Loveless (some cheers for when Cloud and Aerith nearly kissed), and it ended with their hug in the video overlaid with the FINAL notes of the song, which is different than the game version which pans up during the final notes. (6/10)
Credit to
@makiroll0108
for the image. Isn't this a bit wild? Aerith's necklace, the neckline of the dress, Cloud's expression... No Promises to Keep calls back to the Wallmarket scene! 😲
2/3 games... Is this going to be called back to again in the next game??
Meeting Aerith is not just Cloud's unfulfilled desire running through the course of FFVII. It's a theme that courses through multiple FFVII-related media spanning YEARS.
Love will find a way in Part 3. We know this because its been foreshadowed.
#clerithweek
#clerith
(1/3)
As written in Traces of Two Pasts, the white materia is synonymous with passing down an heirloom to descendants, yet here she is handing it to Cloud. 🤔
Aerith loving Cloud has been canon for 27 years. It's not up for debate.
The words the writer used to describe that love are clear. Aerith's actions, her embracing Cloud seconds before Sephiroth appears, show her feelings clearly.
Interpreting it any other way is ignorant.
The implications of this non-optional, narrative choice to let Zack understand Aerith feelings, are HUGE for Part 3.
The whole scene aligns with Lifestream White, and doubles down on what most of us Aerith fans already knew. 🤷♀️
#FF7R
I compiled the route that I experienced as an Aerith fan in FF7 Remake ➡️ Rebirth.
This route doesn't need an explanation. It should be understood that a path was intentionally paved for Aerith fans. If all FF7 fans understood this, there wouldn't be debates. (1/2)
#clerith
Nojima comments that he worries how the affinity system would affect the story scenario.
To me, this ties into why we keep seeing Aerith’s date represent the Chapter 12 date in all of the official materials. (1/3)
Now of course, everyone wonders whether Cloud and Aerith will kiss in Part 3. Did the evolution of skinship stop at Rebirth? There were hints that foreshadowed Cloud and Aerith’s hand-hold and hug in Remake. There are similar hints foreshadowed in Rebirth for Part 3. (7/7)
It takes Aerith making a move first, to convince a VERY nervous Cloud to even consider making a move. Holding her hand might not seem like a big deal, but the direction tells us this is actually a bold move for Cloud. He even looks at Aerith as if to ask, “Is this okay?” (5/7)
From Remake to Rebirth, the evolution of skinship between Cloud and Aerith has been slow and gradual. On purpose. The developers chose to tell this story of becoming more emotionally and physically in sync through hand-holding. (6/7)
Which of the 6
#clerith
dialogue scenes did you like best?
For me, Cosmo Canyon's soft "It's okay" takes the win. 🏆 There's a tone that Cloud occasionally uses with Aerith that's different from other team members, and this was one of the rare times it came out.
This is one of the clips that I find most inarguable about Cloud and Aerith’s real feelings. Especially Cloud.
In a world about to perish, amidst Sephiroth’s taunting, they have these moments with each other… not for comfort’s sake, but happiness.
I missed this. Kitase says “Conversely,” implying Aerith was the subject of Hollow, while Cloud is the subject of No Promises to Keep.
😳 I already thought “cobblestone streets” kinda clinched it, but this is very close.
However, its importance is more built around Aerith’s date. Cloud has reservations. He sits away from Aerith. His earlier insecurities in Gongaga once more surface. (3/7)
I don't mind if you prefer Tifa, but stop trying to make everything about her.
Aerith is Rosa 4/6 times.
Aerith is Rosa in the credits.
Aerith won the "Rosa is me" contest with her song.
Aerith and Rosa use staff weapons, have similar actions.
Aerith is Rosa. Get over it.
🎆 Words Drowned Out by Fireworks
Can't tell you how many times I've rewatched Cloud intertwine his hand with Aerith's on that Gondola date. 😆😍
#clerithweek
#clerith
Cloud, who isn't sure if Aerith has lingering feelings for Zack or not, now knows Zack is dead. He believes Aerith doesn’t know. With this context in hand, the entire scene hits different. (4/7)
Did the FF7 developers get inspiration from the most famous
#clerith
doujin, Mother?
Flowers "talking" is a Remake continuity addition. Was never in the OG. (1/4)
Prior to their date, a Rebirth-specific story move that did not occur in the OG happens. Cloud remembers Zack.
This is important, because it weighs heavy on his mind. He even brings it up in Tifa’s date. (2/7)
I became an even bigger Aerith (and by extension clerith) fan than I already am.
FF7 Rebirth delighted and surprised me in the best ways.
#FF7R
It just feels so…👌 so good. 😌
Ultimania Omega: "Aerith sees through to Cloud's true existence, which he himself wasn't even aware of."
Cloud (EC): "When I'm with you, you bring out a part of me that I didn't even know existed."
Ding, ding, ding! 🔔 Cloud's true self / not Zack.
In light of some of the... really unhinged tweets from some CA fans, I just want to say...
To CA fans who keep the fandom positive, are rational, respectful, graceful, and don't give in to hate just as our dear flower girl wouldn't: You have my whole heart. 🩷
"Rules for thee, but not for me."
Gondola date - One date is emphasized and shown in official materials (Aerith’s)
CT view = None of the dates are canon, including Aerith’s (1/4)
Hamaguchi said most of the work on the third game is already done.
Nomura emphasized the vision hasn't changed based on fan input.
What is FF7 tw expecting? "If I'm nice and beg, I can change it." "If I make one side look bad, they'll change their minds." It ain't happening. 😂
The problem is NOT cleriths. The problem is clotis imposing their interpretation that there's nothing between Cloud and Aerith as a fact, when all throughout Remake and Rebirth the opposite is enforced.
@cetrafairy
The issue that every CA, and honestly every general FF7 fan, has with CT fans is that they deny that there's anything between C + A. I don't think a lot of CA fans deny the existence of CT, because regardless of where in the timeline it happens, the feelings are/were canon.
The field music was done as a huge medley. Got to re-experience the Grasslands, Junon, Corel, Gongaga (loud cheers from the audience), Cosmo Canyon, and Nibel.
#clerith
note - Cloud’s Nibelheim answer “Probably, sounds like something I do” was included in the video edit. (2/10)
I really agree with this. "More like at a funeral" pushed the flexibility of the English translation from acceptable to undermining a serious moment. Suddenly, the context changes from focusing on Aerith's sadness to poking fun at Aerith's death.
日本語版の方が好きな会話
②伍番街デート
★オリジナル日本語版
お姉さん、泣きそうだし/She looks like she's about to cry.
★英語版
More like "at a funeral"/まるでお葬式みたいだし
この英語版、野島さんのOKが出てるのか本当に疑問。エアリスのこの瞬間の心情を一ミリも表現出来てないので。
Aerith’s Theme was performed as Return to the Planet. Overlaid was the scene of her in the Sleeping Forest, ending just before Cloud starts crawling on the ground. (9/10)
Why is it an issue that Cloud fell in love with Aerith? It does nothing to harm the existing relationship Cloud has with Tifa.
This is the trigger of all arguments, it's that people shave down Aerith's importance to Cloud to the point that she becomes unimportant.
During Cloud and Aerith's most heightened romantic moments, Cloud is almost always featured on the right of the screen, mirroring what we see with other main couples: FF9, FF8, and FF10 all feature the same.
What happened to media literacy in the FF7 fandom?
Aerith loves Cloud, and this has been canon for 27 years. I feel like I’m experiencing the Flat Earth phenomenon.
Is “Aerith doesn’t love Cloud” going to be FF7’s Flat Earther theory? 😂
Cleriths in 2024 are done taking shit. The gaslighting no longer works. We played Rebirth. Cloud and Aerith's chemistry is real, their romance is valid. Everyone else just has to cope. 🤷♀️
Cleriths in 2024 have no chill and i'm with it. Much more than with remake where it feels like the fandom grew we're both growing and being sassier. Even the general fandom is joining in.
Fun fact! The last time we saw them do this pose outside of AC in promotional material was at the Sapporo Snow Festival.
It promoted the FF7 Remake project at the very end of the light show, switching from their pose to “See you next.”
This is so true. Cloti logic says:
Dismantled - not canon
Maiden - not canon, despite being supervised by Nojima and Nomura
Gondola kiss - canon, despite Nojima essentially saying it's not canon
The levels of hypocrisy are amazing.
One thing I hate about many CTs is that they think they have the right to decide which source is canon, based on their own headcanon. Maiden novel is the biggest example, just bc of shipping they deny this novel as non canon bc it is not written by FF7 SE team, which is stupid.
“We could call it a ‘homecoming’ or ‘homeword bound’ maybe?” Aerith says this when she and Cloud wake up in her “dream.”
The version of Aerith’s theme that plays in Remake when Cloud first arrives to Aerith’s home is called “Aerith’s Theme - Home Again”
🤔 Again huh?
This is the one time I'm gonna do this. Ngl, this person's hypocrisy had it coming.
So settle in by the fire and let's talk about
@AerithxZacks
.
First, let's take on their hypocrisy on fanart.
On the left - an RT about not bullying artists
On the right - them bullying artists
@lofi_lover0930
You prefer seeing 80% of your preferred ship's interactions through mini games, with less than 30 minutes worth of content than seeing hours worth of cut scenes that go emotionally deep and involve huge moments of characterization? Okay.
“I don’t know if it was fate. I don’t know if it was destiny.”
“Fate” and “Destiny” are two words commonly ascribed to both Cloud and Aerith. The arbiters of fate, who keep destiny on course, ensure that Cloud and Aerith meet on Loveless Street. (2/4)
I see a lot of complaints from the
#FF7
community about shippers.
But many of us shippers are in our own lanes, posting what WE want for people *like us.*
Then, users who don't like shipping will invite themselves into that space to leave negative comments.
Pick a lane. (1/2)
Cloud: "You bring out a part of me that I didn't know existed."
Aerith: "I want to experience this feeling everywhere I go, with you. Together with you and the part of yourself that you didn't know existed."
#FF7EC
Clerith is too cute. ❤️💗🫶 My heaaart!!
Stamp - Rebirth Medley. This was a HUGE highlight because the video edit compiled all the animals you encounter like Salmon, Melon, the Nibelheim cats, Cait Sith, and of course, lots and lots of Red XIII. (4/10)
"Know that you'll take my hand, and never let me go."
A lot of emphasis is placed on Cloud and Aerith's hands in Remake, and this follows a 27-year pattern. More importantly, "never let me go" ties to Hollow's lyric (Cloud's POV) "This time, I'll never let you go." (3/4)
Ehhh? I don't put a whole lot of stock into the words of VAs / mo-cap actors compared to the developers, but how did this whole Cloud's Mo Cap Actor is CT thing start? I've been watching his streams. He completely acknowledges the love between CA. And (1/3)
CLOUD AND AERITH! 😭 OMG ❤️🔥
"They're just thoughts. Let 'em be dark and ugly. You're not. No matter what you decide, I'm with you."
On a sunset beach too!! This hits every shojo / YA romance / Jane Austen cell in my BODY 💕😭
#clerith
Aerith's wish in Ever Crisis is to travel the world with the part of Cloud that he didn't know existed. This is based on FF7... in which her wish is to be with the REAL Cloud. 😌 Zack doesn't factor here.
#Clerith
#FF7EC
Why, in your opinion, does no one really obsess over Zack x Aerith?
My thoughts are
- Cloud x Aerith has more content
- Aerith fans prefer Cloud x Aerith
- Zack fans could care less if it's Aerith or Cissnei as long as their boy is happy
- Cloud x Tifa fans prefer Cloud x Tifa
Big cheers for Vincent on Galian Beast, which was epic. Reno and Zack got a lot of applause on their first appearances too. Nothing got as much applause as One Winged Angel, of course. 😄 (8/10)
Have you ever noticed how
#cloti
creators try to move on really quickly when they get caught doing some nasty shit? They try to normalize a posting cadence of completely different things to bury it and mislead their followers to think nothing big happened.
Everyday bahamut
#clerith
fanart graces my feed is a good day. ✨ Look how well they compliment each other. Cute magical witch Aerith with her fierce boyfriend.
The FF7 Rebirth development team is fully aware of the weight and importance of Aerith dying. It has meaning that goes beyond the game's story.
That said, they're also aware that teasing her as alive is in poor taste. So it's safe to say something bigger is planned. (1/2)
@cetrafairy
The issue that every CA, and honestly every general FF7 fan, has with CT fans is that they deny that there's anything between C + A. I don't think a lot of CA fans deny the existence of CT, because regardless of where in the timeline it happens, the feelings are/were canon.
One of the earliest lines promoting the Final Fantasy VII Remake project followed a description of Cloud meeting Aerith in Sector 8:
"Now their feelings go around the stars again."
I feel like we didn't look into that line much, but maybe we should?
It annoys me when I see Cloud x Tifa shippers be rude, but to be honest… seeing Cloud x Aerith shippers being disrespectful feels a whole lot worse… Because I always end up thinking “I thought we were better than that.”
Two big highlights for me, because they sound SO GOOD live, were Rufus’s Welcome Ceremony and Gold Saucer. “Bare Your Soul” was performed. This looked really fun with the video edit since it's mostly Yuffie dancing and looking shocked at Dio. 😂 (5/10)
In conclusion, I can't say with 100% certainty "this song is unequivocally about this" but... We know Aerith falls in love with Cloud. The timing of this song dropping with Rebirth, a game that will only double down on that fact, makes me think it must be about Cloud. (4/4)
Aerith’s date represents the Chapter 12 date in
- the trailer
- the soundtrack
- Cloud’s profile as an example of the romantic option
- the scenario section in the Ultimania
- her high affection date is pictured on her profile
- she is Rosa in the credits
That’s a lot… (2/3)
@w_mikki55637
He’s the one who says “You’ll have to give me a harder one next time” 😂 which he never would have said if he didn’t want to experience more dates like this with her
So glad we're finally taking swings at the fake zerith fans in the FF7 fandom.
If you hate Aerith, by extension you hate zerith. That's how things work. You don't get to compartmentalize it in order to save face.
It's crazy to me how anyone could deny CA's feelings after Rebirth.
- They hold hands multiple times
- Aerith canonically references the Chapter 14 resolution of how she tried to dissuade Cloud from loving her
- "Yeah, next time" is an option
Among so many things.
@cetrafairy
The issue that every CA, and honestly every general FF7 fan, has with CT fans is that they deny that there's anything between C + A. I don't think a lot of CA fans deny the existence of CT, because regardless of where in the timeline it happens, the feelings are/were canon.
I like Zack and Aerith, although the interactions shown are VERY short and not deep enough to feel tailored to my tastes.
Now, there’s an awful lot of people who think they can say nasty things about Aerith AND gush about Zack and Aerith.
❌ THAT is two-faced behavior.