I’ve created a private & safe subreddit for the dear readers. A few of us had discussed how we needed a space to make posts/share findings/build theories without the homophobia. I’m newish to Reddit so bear with me as we get it going. Invite only so comment or dm me :)
The last time Karlie publicly liked one of Taylor’s posts was this one on October 29, 2019 for National Cat Day(11 days after Kar’s 1st wedding ceremony). Taylor’s endorsement comes with this photo from her Time POTY article, signed by the Childless Cat Lady🫶
#mastermind
Yep 😭 this has been playing on my mind too. Chely also “dated” a football player before coming out and wore this 90s shirt that Taylor wore on an early pap walk with 🏈
Another very clear “she’ll” on the last night in LA 8/9. She also sings it this way in the Long Live performance that was not in the Eras film but then got added back in after.
Taylor has come along way from at first not even being able to hold Karlie’s hand during the 2014 VSFS rehearsal to the sapphic delight she gave us last night. So proud of her!!
That’s Weird: 1️⃣
Ever notice this odd looking “man” in the ME! video? He’s not credited & it’s the only solo closeup besides Taylor & Brendon Urie in the whole thing. This fellow glides through on the line “and there’s a lot of lame guys out there”.
better yet let’s get her out on stage to reclaim her place in the Style runway walk with Taylor. You know, for old times sake and to make the haters big mad 🤣🙏👏
@LissaJoStewart
I don’t know if it’s her or not but it’s now part of her lore and to me that’s important. If fans think she would do a side thing like this and write in a way that sounded just like her lyrical writing they are wrong! I know she’d love some Rupi Kaur style poetry
Tree saw the gaslighting today and decided to wrap it all up in a neat package with a bow for us. It has everything—links to iconic moments like THE Vogue article, Karlie at Rep tour when Taylor did THAT Dress performance, KK dancing to Don’t Blame Me & Shake It Off last year
Taylor is having the best time making us scramble and look foolish I swear. Taycomedian
I searched things on four muses for TTPD song & the last one I checked was Karlie. I was trying to be as neutral as possible on my hunts.
#taylorswift
#karliekloss
As a lesbian who stumbled out of the closet/CompHet, I wish more of the fans would see her for the lesbian she is. She intentionally did “ME! Out now!” on Lesbian Visibility Day. She changed the Lover aesthetic from bi/pan colouring to lesbian too, but it was right there then too
She did all this(plus soooo much more) and still people refuse to see her. How lonely it must be to be “adored” by so many but they only love the version of you that you are cursed to uphold.
“And it was written
I got cursed like Eve got bitten
Oh, was it punishment?”
I need them to explain why she sings twin right at the 3:38 mark of the song. And don’t pretend like it’s some coincidence because she does everything with intention—years of koincidences form a pattern. She’s either a mastermind or she isn’t, so what’s it gonna be?
remember when other gaylors used "twin from your dreams" line against kk. they're the same people claiming 'down bad' with the line "like I lost my twin" is for like lily or something. funny.
Hits Different is a gay song and it always has been. You can hold on to your respective muses irdc about convincing ppl, but I love solving the puzzle. The pattern has been pattering for YEARS but nearly everyone tried to rewrite the HERstory.
“Bet I could still melt your world Argumentative, antithetical dream girl…My heart, my hips, my body, my love
Trying to find a part of me that you didn't touch”
And all of these were planned to be executed at this same time to beat people over the head with it so the straight side of the fanbases can catch up. But my lord they are still arguing!!!
So tomorrow is folklore release anniversary and Karlie’s engagement announcement too…which ended up giving us that iconic performance of Curious with Hayley Kiyoko 🤣
So first thing mentioned is the birthday lyric for the song that is 3:38 long and with that cover art choice. Chill TN, you’re doing too much.
Swirled you into all of my poems and the Eras tour sets or whatever Taylor said 😝
We’re so depressed we act like it’s
#ICanDoItWithABrokenHeart
’s birthday every day! But today is special because Taylor’s declaring it the next single from
#TSTTPD
! 🎪🤍
Lights, camera, bitch, listen to see the cute new cover on all streaming platforms. 🥹
Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince
And I'll never let you (go)
‘cause I know this is a (fight)
That someday we're gonna (win),
just thought you should know
It's you and me, that's my whole world
Ice Spice is “THE ONE to watch” 🧵
KARma is 'boutta pop up unannounced
Watch her put ya opps on a throne
June 18th Kode With Klossy posted to their stories with the 👑 Taylor cutouts. After that Ice Spice/KK on the”throne” in her TikTok feat. Karlie on a magazine from 2016
When I listen to Taylor’s music I’ll often hyper-fixate on certain words or phrases. The way she sings “revelry” in the outro of BDILH hooked me immediately. Instantly I thought of “Revelry” by Kings Of Leon. The lyrics/definition giving kissgate. She was chaos, she was revelry🥹
Taylor is singing about her Dream Girl!
The bridge is one pov; the subject & object are highlighted as such.
Taylor hid this song on an exclusive Lavendar💅CD for so long & didn’t have it on streaming for ages either. She was scared to put it out!! Homophobia is real & scary!
“One for the money, two for the show
I never was ready, so I watch you go”
The “two for the show” anniversary is coming up June 21st and the cowboy cabana wedding weekend ran from the 20th-23rd. I hope y’all are ready!!
Manifesting Cowboy Like Me for London 🤠
#cowboylikeme
@notseriouslor
The vinyl has the date August 2023 and I’m shocked we still need to argue this.
The song is also about getting back together with someone from your past.
@leavemetoheavnn
No one better come for you for stating the obvious. I follow clues and this led me here within a few weeks of processing the album after looking at all angles possible. KK usually flags first and then Taylor does after. Save to say they are in cahoots somehow.
I swear she is using the features to tell the truest parts of her story. The italics sometimes are used on her solo vocals or the other artist’s solos. Compare her expressions singing this to her covering Riptide. Let me know what you think.
@theglasscloset
This! We already knew it was a Karlie song because she literally says she has “swirled you into all of my poems”, but that voice note to me should have really opened some eyes.
Also for anyone who hasn’t thought about it, Taylor’s the boy who breaks his fave toys.
the day people realize that kaylor pr thing is actually to cover they have met and already friends long time before their official meeting and is to cover what their real relationship r then we will be in peace
@delicatelor
Also, a lot of them want her to have a baby because they already are married and have kids and they need her to narrate their lives with her songs. They have grown past where they think she is and are relating less and less to her music.
We are so close to midnight…maybe nearly there based on the fuckass clock capp from Karma MV.
Taylor points to 1 star in her 100th show post which reminds me of the long hand at 11:57(ish) just before it hits 12. KK’s arm reads as at midnight to me.
I’m cackling at half of Gaylor Twitter just figuring out who’s in Florida. We’ve been on this since the first week…old news lol. You keep trying to count this one out but she comes back stronger than a 90s trend 🤭
@locjessmonstar
Kelsey Damn Morris 🤣
There are lots of old rumours and some timelines on tumblr that are pretty in-depth. Have fun going down this rabbit hole!
Keep an eye on Dec 1st 👀 🤷♀️🤡
Chely was on CNN Morning for the YNTCD video release to talk about her time in the industry. Chely’s Blender theory gets its moment in the video. The teaser promo posted on June 16, 2019 features Karlie’s hand and daisies
Yep 😭 this has been playing on my mind too. Chely also “dated” a football player before coming out and wore this 90s shirt that Taylor wore on an early pap walk with 🏈
@unloversciub
Bahahaha whatttt?!?!? It’s not coded it’s just a lesbian singing to her closeted comphet ex stuck married to a man. We all got at least one of those in our past. I can think of at least 3 to sing Good Luck, Babe to right now 🤣
These two-toned orange fans are not just placeholders. Solid white feather fans are more common than whatever this fuckery is that she wants us to notice. Along with that purple, which is Lavender direct from the brand.
The culprit of the Lover house fire is right here. It’s was all in her head, she’s the one who burned it down. We’ll meet her in the afterglow I guess. Pyromaniac disguised as a Phoenix 🐦🔥
Still obsessed with Midnights photos!
“I do find the biker gloves (also by Dior) confusing and I'm searching for insight on their 'why. At the Grammys, I could buy into the 'Albatross' reference in her black elbow-length gloves. These? I'm still trying to make sense of.”
-taylorswiftstyled
🤣I’m not confused at all
This teeny little paragraph is jam packed with iconic Kaylor moments. The first VS runway they did and two links to THE Vogue article, which was definitely meant to be a launch for them. Imagine if she had that Vogue cover and feature with any man 🤣
There’s been some hinting by TaylorNation at new hair for Rep visuals and immediately my mind went to Bleachella. She could just rock her natural curls which I adore but I did love this look. So fun, but I know damaging. Karlie’s latest post got me thinking again…
I haven't come around in so long
But I'm making a comeback to where I belong .…….
‘Cause the sign on your heart
Said it's still reserved for me
Honestly, who are we to fight the alchemy?
This video was released on Lesbian Visibility Day in 2019 and captioned “ME! Out now!”. The blonde falling out of from in the right corner looks like Taylor to me as well. And let’s not forget Taylor’s transformation as The Man and Karl Lee 🤣
@sapphlor
I was looking into this the other day and I think it is The Black Cat in LA. It was the site of the start of the gay rights movement in the US. It was a peaceful protest so gets overlooked by Stonewall. But the protest was in response to a horrible attack on New Year’s Eve
@Allie874
@treacheraous
The complete demeanour change when she gets asked the same question about women lol. She also didn’t feel the need to change women to a person or someone
They brought a knife to a gun fight FR
She plays all sides & fans will find a way to make it fit, but I’m tired of such basic reads on her art—or the leap to “museless” by KKhaters. Newsflash, there is always a muse…romantic, taylor herself, fame, closeting, etc
#IHateItHere
@triptoyourshore
What do they think we’ve been doing this whole time?
Oh right they think it’s all projection and speculation out of thin air because we just want to make her gay/bi 🤣
No, no, thank YOU Janice! What a day for the main birthday gift from my wife to arrive! Sealed and never opened copy too. I hope my niece appreciates her future inheritance from my Taylor collection that I’m gonna leave her in my will 🤣
@stainedglasslor
She is doing the most and proving the point about how society does not deem traditionally pretty girls with long blonde hair as anything but being for men!
@ridemychairlor
Funniest part of this is they are going to inadvertently create more gaylors by not being able to stay in their own lanes!
They are drawing attention to it and if I were a more casual or newer fan & that ended up on my fyp I would immediately be intrigued & start looking it up🤣
Confess my truth in swooping, ✨sloping ✨, cursive letters
Another look at the italicized lyrics from the features. Then the line from Paris hit me…sloping letters = italics
People were talking so much shit today trying to discredit how huge this is! Citing OK! magazine wasn’t reliable—fair, but turns out the original piece was by Yahoo Life. Then claiming she hadn’t listened to TTPD bc she didn’t a song. She would be hated on if she had chosen 🤦♀️
@lvnderlore
Yes because our society is very homophobic and so heteronormative that she needs to literally say “I’m here, I’m queer, get used to it” before they will ever even start to believe her or see it. She writes/sings about rocking her dream girl’s world & they hetsplain it away
Something about this story from Karlie gives me “the best people in life are free” and I thought Taylor looks like she’s feeling pretty free here too!
☀️💖🌼
Baby let the games begin
Today Taylor’s designer for 1989 & Rep, Fausto Puglisi shared a post of Céline Dion(2017) in the same iconic fabric he used for LWYMMD video & Tay’s 🐍 Day pap walk. Travis wore a similar print on the podcast in May but I can’t find designer info on it.
Sept 13th was the 2009 VMAS - the Kanye incident. Articles noted how early it was in the broadcast & mention it happened before the first commercial break—8:50pm. Reading about the events in 2009 lead me to believe this latest one involved some stunting. Anyone else wanna chat?
She was feeling herself extra during Shake It Off I thought. The streams were horrible but lucked into one good one up close in front of the stage & she was working them skirt twirls! This 1989 combo was last seen for Edinburgh N1–when this happened 🤣 IKTR
From
"What if I told you none of it was accidental?
And the first night that you saw me
Nothing was gonna stop me"
to
"The story started when you said, "Hello"
In a crowded room a few short years ago"
All the Kaylor meetings BEFORE 2013 an updated 🧵:
I'll say this before the shows. We already knew that this weekend we were going to have stunts, he announced months ago that he would go to the London shows. I know that many believed that since Taylor was being extremely gay, the end of this “relationship” was possibly near,
You’ll do greater things than dating the boy on the football team because long story short it was the wrong guy. You can face this, you’re on your own kid—now take a deep breath and walk through the door 🚪 🧡
I always think of “cheeks pink in the twinkling lights” when I see that sparkler video. Could be related to some other moment entirely but this is where my mind goes.
eight years ago today, taylor and karlie kloss were recorded as they played with sparklers
a clip of the sparklers was later included in the ‘lover’ lyric video
july 4, 2016
@katnation13
“don’t let the gaylors see”
Umm Sabrina basically did this for us because she wants it KNOWN and is also hoping the clueless might start to question a few things lol
@locjessmonstar
I’ll say I’m happy for her, then I’ll cry myself to sleep.
I feel this is also Taylor with seeing younger musicians being able to exist differently than she did. I feel this way seeing young gay girls being able to be who they are but then grieving the loss of that experience
The daisy socks and loafers made a cameo right when she sings, “he said he’d love me for all time”. At the 2:18 mark
June 26, 2023 was when we first saw them I believe
My boy only breaks his favorite toys
I’m queen of sandcastles he destroys
Just say when, I'd play again
He was my best friend
Down at the sandlot
I felt more when we played pretend
Than with all the Kens
@notseriouslor
how much gay shit does the girl needs to do before they realize she is the head gaylor. Chairman of the Tortured Poets Department and Sheriff of Gaytown
Seeing Karlie publicly liking Taylor’s post and being in the IKTR camp and not my flabbers are ghasted camp is so fun.
Love to all my oomfs but especially the ones who are in the trenches with me 🌼 We’ve been following their shenanigans for years and survived the great war.
@stainedglasslor
🤔 now that you mention it
I have known it’s not a Kim or Ye song. I have felt it’s about her real story & the real people close to her she is protecting. She’s changed the defining clues so that’s why the songs aren’t hers anymore in The Manuscript.