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@surinuketeiku

8 months

Toga was dressed up really cute on the day the bird fell in their yard. A bow at her collar, matching frills on her cuffs, the bottom of her shirt, the edge of her skirt and socks, and even on her shoe buckles. One of her parents, probably her mom, did her hair up into buns.

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6 months

One detail of this moment is a rather strange in hindsight.

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6 months

Ah.

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8 months

In hindsight, this scene sure jogs your memory, doesn't it? Where else did we hear something similar...

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8 months

Toga's parents only cared about appearances, in more than one sense of the word. They told Himiko she wasn't human, even though they could never handle her humanity. All they wanted in a daughter was a doll to dress up.

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8 months

That stopped after her parents saw her drinking blood. Her mom didn't bother giving her daughter pretty hairstyles anymore. Toga's hair out of the buns looks messy enough that it might not have gotten combed through properly.

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8 months

This has got to be one reason why Toga cares so much about cuteness, why the question she asked Ochaco was "Do you think I'm cute?" and not something like "Do you think I'm human?"

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8 months

Toga's parents gave her affection by caring for her appearance, and they neglected it to punish her. Even as a teenager it's a big way she gives and recieves love, whether it's splurging the LoV's money on a coat, calling others cute, or wanting to hear it from Ochaco.

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8 months

Her girly coordinated outfit got switched out for plain, unisex sweatshirt. What she's wearing in this pic is even worse. It looks like a too-large top (her mom's?) worn as a dress. I seriously hope that was just for bed and she didn't have to go outside like that.

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8 months

But also, putting a squirming, messy toddler into a frilly outfit and fussing around with her hair for just a boring day at home is weird. None of the other girls in the series are dressed up like that at that age, not even Momo with all her family's money.

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7 months

This memory of Kotarou's as he read Nana's letter always seemed such a weird and sad scene for him to remember. It's not positive, but then again it's not truly negative either. It just seems so random and silly, so unimportant.

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8 months

The Joint Training arc is a real goldmine of foreshadowing for this arc. Makes sense, as it was the beginning of the era of multiple quirks, and now we're at the end of them.

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8 months

Yoichi, Toshinori and Izuku are the quirkless* trio of OFA holders, and as such they represent OFA itself. Another thing they have in common is a hero who lifted them out of their powerlessness, and that this hero becomes a surrogate family member to them.

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8 months

The main common theme of the memories Kudou's vestige unlocked seems to be this line of his. Tomura and Izuku remembered the people who run by their side with the same will.

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8 months

Came to the ugly realization that this can be seen as Tomura walking down the aisle. This moment is when he symbolically marries AFO.

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8 months

The aspect that stood out to me when it comes to Kudou talking about Izuku not giving up on his belief in people's hearts is that, y'know, the person in front of Kudou while he speaks, the one Izuku is being paralleled with, Yoichi, did stop believing.

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6 months

It's not like with the two other guys, where AFO simply put his hand on their heads. AFO deliberately places his hand and thumb to obscure Yoichi's eyes. He doesn't want to see Yoichi look at him with fear and anger. That was exactly what he was trying to overwrite.

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6 months

AFO wants everyone to look at him, Yoichi most of all. This is the second worst thing AFO ever did to him (and there's some stiff competition for that title). He has Yoichi's full, unidivided, terrified attention. So why is AFO covering Yoichi's eyes?

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@surinuketeiku

8 months

Oh right.

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7 months

I know this scene will be immensely horrifying, but I keep thinking about Tenko peacefully walking hand in hand with an evil stranger to a home where Tenko and his mother scream and reach for each other but don't touch as his father drags him out by the collar.

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5 months

If AFO's goal was to confuse people, he managed it. Not by crying, but with this deranged line. Most people seem to agree he was lying to himself, but it's not a universal opinion by any means. So what was really going on?

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@surinuketeiku

6 months

The official and the raw don't have this level of vagueness over what All Might stole from AFO, though.

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@surinuketeiku

6 months

But it isn't what makes him happy. It's all done for the sake of his goal. What he really wants is the seemingly telepathic connection between a baby and its mom. His dream is people knowing his needs and taking care of him without him saying a word.

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6 months

Standing in the way of their dreams so people have to pay attention to him, forcing them to look at him, is not what AFO really wants. He's good at it, and he's come to enjoy it because it's the only thing that consistently works.

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6 months

Yoichi's monologue, which both AFO and Kudou only see half of, their own wishes cutting Yoichi in two, and which neither of them listen to until the end, is a parallel to the scene in the vault. Yoichi is a small figure, shown from the chest up, his eyes hidden.

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@surinuketeiku

8 months

You ever think about how Tenko went from one abuser with severe mommy abandonment issues to another abuser with even more severe mommy abandonment issues? Talk about going from the frying pan into the fire.

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6 months

That's what he's always wanted from Yoichi, and never got.

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6 months

This meta wouldn't be complete without mentioning the main reason why hands of the dead are worn in this story. They're to make sure memories don't fade. Yoichi's hand helps AFO remind himself of his goal: to make the world into his Yoichi, even when the original is gone.

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6 months

The first panel is even split in two as well, with the hero suffering on one side and defeating the Demon Lord on the other. The split doesn't go through Yoichi. This is his own view of himself. He's placed outside of the panel because he's talking about a story, and he is real.

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8 months

So, as the damsel, Katsuki is Yoichi's foil in the forest. Izuku and the rest of their classmates are the rebel group. They move together, keeping Yoichi/Katsuki within their formation, but a villain in a trenchcoat snatches him away.

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8 months

The last time Yoichi called Kudou "my hero" it was a reminder and a gentle reproach. Kudou wasn't acting like Yoichi's hero by facing the wall, giving everyone the silent treatment, and generally opposing the plan to save Tenko.

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@surinuketeiku

6 months

AFO can't see people as human, and Yoichi covers his own eyes, showing both AFO's spiritual blindness and the fact Yoichi tried not to see it. But even as he reminds himself of what AFO did to him with his power, Yoichi won't reject the power itself.

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@surinuketeiku

6 months

AFO manifests Yoichi's hand in the exact same pose over his own (well, Tenko's) mouth. Then again, it's made of AFO's (Tenko's) flesh, and he uses it to cover Tenko's opposition to him. The hand is both AFO's and Yoichi's, covering both himself and someone else.

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6 months

In the second, he's held inside the panel, cut in two, the gutter like the bar of a cage. He's viewed from the outside, by AFO and Kudou. Back when when he talked to AFO in the vault, some part of him still believed he could be the comic hero who wins in the end.

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6 months

In the vault, that panel was followed by AFO putting a hand over Yoichi's eyes. Here, Yoichi does it to himself. Back then, it was about overwriting Yoichi and reality itself. This time, it's seems to be Yoichi remembering that moment as he talks about AFO's evil.

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6 months

I think it's funny how last chapter had Nana say it was all her fault, and then this chapter Hori made sure to remind us that um no, as important as it was for her to acknowledge her role in Tenko's trauma, it really wasn't.

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@surinuketeiku

2 months

Chapter 418 has been out for long enough that I think I get it. There's still some confusion around what really happened during Tenko's and Izuku's conversation, so here's my take on it.

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6 months

It's Tenko's reaction to the truth that AFO doesn't want to deal with. He covers both the mouth that screams and the ears that hear it to block it out.

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7 months

This chapter confirmed that Yoichi wasn't able to believe his brother had a heart. If Yoichi's view is that AFO wanted a heart to steal OFA, it means he thinks AFO lacked one. It's a callback to what Kudou said about Izuku a few chapters ago.

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6 months

By the time Kudou gets him into their hideout, this has changed. AFO rejected the comic hero's path, and ultimately Yoichi did too. The hero struggled alone until he won. Yoichi didn't want to suffer or be alone anymore, and he lost hope he could stop his brother.

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6 months

Yoichi never stopped opposing AFO's will or believing he would be defeated, but his dream of being a hero just like in the comic died back then.

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6 months

Like, this parallel for these three boys keeps going through my head. They all wanted to be heroes, and their dreams were denied. And then recent events added even more complexity to their shared theme.

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6 months

People have talked about Tenko's "You can be a hero" moment for years, but what about Yoichi's "You can be a hero" moment?🤔

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7 months

Like, when it comes to mysteries in this manga, Hori isn't generally out to mindfuck the reader. The foreshadowing for both Aoyama (particularly in the beginning) and Dabi was very in-your-face.

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6 months

The first two examples had eyes being covered, in this case, it's the mouth and ears. AFO wanted to shield himself from the truth of Yoichi's feelings. Right now, the truth is clear to both Tenko and AFO. "Their" eyes are uncovered, though in shadow because both are in despair.

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8 months

Izuku wanted to be the one reaching out, but he acknowledged that Katsuki's feelings come first. And eventually, Katsuki did come to hold his hand. Izuku let another person hold Katsuki's hand to save his life. AFO saw Yoichi holding the hand of another, and killed him.

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4 months

...If that was Tenko's actual end, it would basically be like if All Might's punch in the first chapter had blown Bakugou into chunks along with the Sludge Villain.

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8 months

Right here, Izuku and the AFO from several hundred chapters later are meant to be similar. They've just had a precious person they've known for a long time snatched away from them, and it has them going out of their minds.

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5 months

Looking at the complete volume version, I'm now 100% sure this is a radio. That's where the report on the Glowing Baby came from.

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6 months

In the first case, it was AFO's hand on another person. In the second one, it was Yoichi's hand on himself. In the last chapter, those two aspects are combined.

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5 months

The last one to mention is Mineta. The scene is a parallel to Yoichi and AFO as children. (Somebody even did a great bit-by-bit comparison image for it.) A small person throws an object at AFO while he steals a quirk and begs him to not hurt someone.

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8 months

It all gets more complicated when you consider Katsuki's kidnapping happened because Tomura saw him restrained at the Sports Festival. To "free" Katsuki, he had the LoV kidnap him, and then Izuku & co had to collect him back.

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8 months

As it turns out, Katsuki does not want Izuku to put himself in danger, and he's definitely not ready to be saved by him. "Stay back" is a kind of rejection, just like Yoichi running away.

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2 months

Tomura and Kurogiri and OFA dying along with AFO is only a baffling writing decision if you try to avoid facing the obvious conclusion. The point was to wipe AFO's legacy off the face of the earth.

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8 months

Yoichi flashing his midriff feat. high quality scans.

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8 months

You have a similar sequence of events with Yoichi. Kudou sees him trapped in the vault, takes him with them, AFO goes after them to bring Yoichi back. As you can tell, the parallels go in all sorts of directions.

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8 months

But he does have a point. The pain, adrenaline and desperation running through Izuku has made him regress to a more childish mindset. He's not thinking about what Katsuki wants in that moment. He's thinking about what he wants, which is for his friend to be safe.

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5 months

A lot of people have figured out what the opaque film covering AFO's eyes means. His eyes not reflecting the world around him and the people in it symbolizes his refusal to accept their effect on him.

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7 months

I think it's meant to imply that when Nana left him, little Kotarou first thought it was because of moments like this. It was his fault for criticizing her cooking. He made her feel like she wasn't a normal mom, he made her think he hated her, and that's why she abandoned him.

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8 months

An unbelievable amount of digital ink has been spilled on this bit of dialogue, so I'll keep it short. First, of course we're not meant to take Compress seriously when he's literally turned Katsuki into an object.

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9 months

Shiggy's midair hug coming SOON

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4 months

has this been done yet

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5 months

Spoilers Objectively the funniest MHA chapter of all of them

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8 months

Izuku regretted that he couldn't save Katsuki despite him being within his reach, which connects him to both AFO and Kudou. AFO couldn't reach Yoichi, and he killed him for it. Kudou couldn't save Yoichi despite holding his hand.

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7 months

(There's a hint for the reader about the real reason Nana left him, the 6 Kotarou holds up. After watching the 6th holder die right in front of her, unable to save him, she couldn't bear to see her son go through the same thing as the young man who looked a little like him.)

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8 months

Tomura ignores the voices of concern in his head. He goes to AFO, essentially saying "I do", and they become one. ShigAFO, the product of their union, is born into the world.

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8 months

The handholding netorare might be the most obvious parallel between Kamino and the sewer. AFO/Izuku has finally found Yoichi/Katsuki surrounded by his dastardly abductors. The difference of course is that Izuku sees Kacchan as a person, not as property.

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8 months

Dabi's smile and Shoutou's expression fit right in with this parallel, adding context to those scenes.

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7 months

It's clear Kotarou never understood the level of danger he was in. He didn't know AFO was real and after his mom. That there was a bad guy his mom couldn't beat must have seemed impossible to him as a kid. It must be his fault she never came back for him.

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8 months

AFO, wearing his suit, waits for Tomura to join him, like the groom at the altar. But he also has his face veiled, like a bride.

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8 months

Izuku spent two days in the hospital, which could be part of why Yoichi got two months of freedom.

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8 months

I think I finally figured out why the narrator specifies that Yoichi was gone from AFO for two months. I mean, why be so exact? Why not three months, or more? Give Yoichi a few years of freedom while we're at it.

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8 months

Blackwhip is the umbilical cord of the OFA baby!!! More on that later

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8 months

Katsuki wasn't the only one abducted. All that's left of the other kidnapping victim, Ragdoll, is some blood. There wasn't a whole lot more left of Yoichi after he got killed. Afterwards, AFO brought their bodies along so he could take their quirks.

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8 months

Tomura goes to the altar in his family's arms. He gets a veil in the form of Nana's and Kotarou's hands. Nana's is the part that trails behind the bride, Kotarou's the veil covering the face, which in some traditions is lifted by the father.

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8 months

Shoutou and Tenya coming along for the rescue mission adds another layer when you consider they're both brothers. Tenya outright compares Izuku to his older brother.

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8 months

To save his friend's life, he asks Eijirou to hold his hand out, because he's someone Katsuki sees as an equal. Their friendship is only a few months old, and not complicated by many years of violence, anger, and insecurity, like the one between Deku and Kacchan.

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7 months

As an adult, Kotarou got that it wasn't his fault. He externalized the blame onto heroes, but he still couldn't help but flash back to the moment he spent years regretting, when he thought he made his mom feel like she wasn't enough. He didn't know how lucky he was to have her.

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8 months

Tenya asks Izuku to consider his feelings. One of the themes of this arc is Izuku figuring out how to respect other people's wishes, even when they seem to contradict each other. AFO never tried to learn this lesson, and it lead to him killing Yoichi and becoming a villain.

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8 months

Uraraka hugging Toga in the final arc echoes her hugging Izuku here, though she needed Shinsou's help in JT to accomplish what she did on her own later. This arc was where her love of smiles first came up. She defeats an enemy with a quirk that can copy quirks.

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8 months

Meanwhile, Katsuki is being held in a cramped windowless room and being tempted towards evil. He's as interested as Yoichi was. He knocks Kotarou's hand of Tomura's face while rejecting him, while AFO put his hand on Yoichi's face after being rejected.

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7 months

Connect this to Kotarou marrying a SAHM who served him food in an apron like a classic wife, and to how his mother-in-law helped out. Connect this to the primary form of punishment he inflicted on Tenko, depriving him of eating dinner with his family.

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8 months

Katsuki technically gets saved twice in Kamino. First by his hero, All Might, breaking into the bar. Katsuki disappears from his side as All Might watches helplessly, just like Kudou did with Yoichi. Second, when Katsuki's classmates, his friend group, reach out to him.

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5 months

Everything about tears leaves AFO bewildered. His experiences and his reaction to them have alienated him from his own completely normal and human emotional responses. There is no crying child inside AFO like for Tenko, Himiko or Touya. It got shut up when he was born.

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8 months

The Shimuras, who really represent Tomura's subconscious, are actually trying to stop the "wedding". That's the "Speak now, or forever hold your peace" part of the ceremony.

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5 months

Imo the way the anime handled this panel is okay. It works as AFO's wishful fantasy, his rewrite of that memory. In the fantasy, Yoichi turns to look when AFO comes close. In reality, Yoichi did not take his eyes off the comic, not even while talking to his brother.

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8 months

The boys' costumes all look a bit AFO-like, Shoutou and Tenya with their formal shirts, Izuku and Eijirou with their jackets. Momo being mistaken for a hostess is kinda funny when you remember AFO's mom's profession.

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8 months

This little panel tucked away next to AFO's arm on the spread caught my eye recently. The other hand presumably belongs to En, since the panel comes right after the one of AFO failing to steal OFA from Banjo.

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5 months

The one exception is during his second meeting with Kudou. Far from causing confusion, AFO's the one who looks lost.

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5 months

Everything about tears leaves AFO bewildered. His experiences and his reaction to them have alienated him from his own completely normal and human emotional responses. There is no crying child inside AFO like for Tenko, Himiko or Touya. It got shut up when he was born.

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8 months

How does the Joint Training arc end for Shinsou again? I sure wonder what it could foreshadow for Tenko :^)

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8 months

In light of AFO's experience with stubborn imprisoned wannabe heroes, him supporting Tomura about Katsuki is a whole lot easier to understand. Like the last time someone tried to save one of his victims, AFO turns the scenery into rubble.

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8 months

Kotarou coming out of AFO and putting his hand on Tomura can also be seen as an allusion to how the father hands the bride over to the husband. In patriarchal societies, this symbolizes the bride going from being the father's property to being the husband's.

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8 months

Monoma has that parallel to Toga, but mostly he plays AFO. I don't need to explain their similarities in design, quirk, and hangups. In JT, Monoma has a trump card which he plays after he gets taken off the gameboard. Sound familiar? He also deals with Eri and Rewind.

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8 months

"My hero" is an important phrase in this story, for obvious reasons. There's a whole chapter named after it, in which the term was defined for us. These are just a couple of times someone has been called that title.

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7 months

Since the idea of Izuku and Tenko being reborn as twins has gotten relevant, now might be an ok time for me to butt in with a few other "twins" who've popped up in the story. These duos aren't necessarily twins or even related, but some aspect of them reminded me that way.

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8 months

Two months after conception is when the baby stops being considered an embryo and officially becomes a fetus.

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@surinuketeiku

7 months

When the flashback first came out, people noted that AFO learned things through Yoichi. That Yoichi taught him speech is only implied, but in this scene, we see him teach his brother how ideas can be communicated through art, as well as the concept of role models.

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@surinuketeiku

7 months

As others have said, when Yoichi thinks of Kudou this chapter, the kana next to 2nd say Leader. Apparently, Yoichi integrated into the rebel group better than I'd thought when I wrote that meta a few weeks ago. No wonder we didn't get a first name reveal out of him.

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@surinuketeiku

8 months

That the second guy caused the first guy's mommy issues feels like a punchline.

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@surinuketeiku

8 months

Lots of people have pointed out that AFO is always trying to cast himself in a caretaking role in his interactions with others. There are several closely connected reasons for this. 1. The most straightforward reason, it's a handy way to take control of the other person.

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@surinuketeiku

5 months

It makes AFO think back to Kyouka crying. He calls it the "roar of weaklings". The reminder of Yoichi and seeing the bonds between the heroes disturbs and confuses AFO. He remembers his mission and leaves without hurting the people there further.

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