World's most normal Hearts fan
Tales account; 2D title enthusiast
Rambles+analyses+translations
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@StellaTelmes
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@therays_en
Bsky: richea
The short of it is their style values consistency throughout their art more than it values capturing the essence of the characters. An issue born from too many designers per game. This ISN'T an issue with any game's 3D models.
The long of it... well I will explain in depth below!
In light of Graces remaster, I highly recommend that people read this for Cheria as it really digs into her character and analyses why she acts the way she does throughout the story. Her character arc means so much to me.
This scene has been lodged so heavily in my mind for the past two months... the composition of the shots, the voice acting, the tension...... it's peak ๐ค
I do have more to add here so I present to you Milla and Velvet, who are perfect examples of what I'm talking about.
It was VERY interesting when the Another Eden collab happened and we got IG's original takes on Milla and Velvet and not them emulating Ufotable's designs for once
To close this thread off I want to talk a little about how Ufotable handles characters designed by IG prior.
Ironically, series consistency goes out the window in this case because they do not even attempt to pull anything from IGs designs and they redraw everyone from scratch.
Miyajima said she writes all of her stories starting with the final boss, their goals ideals and what they would do to achieve them, and only then fleshes out the protagonists and story from there
Interesting to think Symphonia was sparked from Mithos' ideals and not Lloyd's...
Anyway I decided to replay Vesperia (...pic relevant, I will say) and this really is one of the greatest outfit sets of all time. So many of my favorite antagonists represented? From the niche games too????? It's perfect
Going on record to say all the effort I put into these design note translations was for the end goal of making everyone have to perceive Androgynous Mithos Lore... it's so important
Here's examples of what every Tales game would look like if it got the treatment that Hearts got when being "remade" into Hearts R and having its canon overwritten.
Oh I'll also add: the way the game drills it in your head that Mithos is a Hero who's a Really Great Guy who Saved the World and then you find out he's actually why everything has gone to absolute hell.... seriously I wish I could experience that reveal for the first time again
I briefly mentioned before that I don't think the Symphonia loc did Genis' ๅคงๅฅฝใs justice (though I think the loc is excellent in every other way!) so I want to talk about it a little bit more!
@spirmaze
What's your favorite line/dialogue, and if there's any line you could re-translate or feel absolutely needs a different translation in localization, which is it?
Can't find the exact lines I'm looking for in regards to how Sophie is Cheria's light while Lambda is Richard's darkness but I DO think it's interesting how Asbel's immediate thought when reuniting with them both is asking how they're still alive (not knowing it's Sophie/Lambda)
I love this Mithos portrait because he's either saying something super sweet and emo or he's saying the most horrifically petty thing you've ever heard in your life and there's zero in between
Mithos is such a bad person it's kind of astounding. Among all the Tales antagonists his ratio of "things he directly caused" to "bad things that happen in the game" is.... staggering
And he'd do it all over again no matter how many times he's reborn. Like Okay!
Thinking about these lines (two separate scenes) from the Genis/Presea event so I typeset them quickly... really puts a lot of perspective on Mithos' feelings
Youtube's being annoying and not letting me make all the playlists public rn so I'll say this more officially (aka on the project account) later but look! Exciting things happening!! Playlists for each game yaaaaaaay!!!
I've been thinking this for a while but I need Tales fandom to stop acting like "fandom leaders" are a thing. I promise you somebody being involved in translation or knowing more than you isn't the grounds for them being deserving of some weird worship. I say this as a translator
This art is forever crazy to me. I loved all of Rays' scene redraws of course but there was just something really special about the ones that were from the 2d games because the artists had to put a lot of love in their interpretation of the expressions...
I don't know how to articulate this but it's always been kind of crazy to me how I see Cheria get boiled down to her feelings for Asbel when the whole point of her character is her learning to renavigate her feelings for him in a way that is healthy for both of them
Every Tales game has its charms, so to see such a huge chunk of the fandom unable to properly experience lovely games like Destiny DC, Destiny 2 and Rebirth due to the language barrier, and Phantasia, Eternia and Legendia due to inaccessibility, breaks my heart.
#BringBack2DTales
I love Mithos being a little snot to Yuan, but it also does warm my heart how he did actually support his relationship with Martel from the getgo, even if he deflected it via getting on his nerves
This isn't unique to Yuan but he's one of my favorite cases of his character model in his game compared to his art being objectively hilarious. Like this model gives him such pent up sass in a way that can't be conveyed in anything else
Honestly something I will always love about Symphonia is how... grand it feels? A lot of Tales games it feels like you can just easily do everything in one playthrough and be done but Symphonia has so much replay value in its choice system. I love the affection system a lot tbh
Apparently I have nothing better to do than talk about Tales supplementary material today, so here's a very brief review on my recommendations (both from my own experience and what I've heard) for each game. There's a LOT I didn't include here but I hope it's helpful in some way
How do I explain to the fandom that the Symphonia OVA absolutely rocks and it's because it was headed by the same person who wrote all the oldschool Tales drama CDs which are in fact some of the best content to ever come out of this franchise (namely the Phantasia and D2 ones)