Mario easy, one is selfless the other is selfish
Mario does it because he cares and it’s the right thing to do
Sonic does it for the fun of it and it feels right
Mario is the ideal of a hero
Sonic just does some heroic stuff
@chaomix
That’s because the Japanese voice actor actually had a cold during recording. Just like Jason did in Sonic Unleashed. Most people don’t know this because they don’t really pay attention to the Japanese side lol.
I feel like most people know this is how Sonic feels. But they think that’s the same as something he would say. Sonic isn’t preachy, this is preachy.
Everyone using Black Knight is ignoring the context behind it and the significance that this scene does not have.
To all the people who want to validate their stupid headcanon as to why Sonic would be worried about his friends in that way in Frontiers. Because no one actually understands the character in the slightest.
beat trip mode, & even if some of the bosses dragged & fang3 was hard, i still really enjoyed my time. i love playing as her so much she's so fun. love how she's chaotix-coded with her vector wheel and espio ceiling climbing. she's so adorable why were people mean to her 🥺
I like how they all follow a certain artstyle with the human characters they should’ve did this from the beginning. Instead of 06 where Sonic’s literally looks like something from a creature shop with a head that could eat Elise in one go.
Shadow at this point chooses his own path in life and hates his past which means he pretty much means he hates Maria and Gerald. He literally does his last wish and throws away a picture of them to show it. He even say bye to his past life because it’s a new life he lives now.
@Superguy551
I could literally see him chasing his down while screaming and doing some cool ass animation with his spikes climbing down or on some mountains in Angle island
I’m sorry I don’t think this works. Sonic is already mature in his own right and has alway been. Sonic is just introverted and shows his close relationships in a different way. Sonic can develop but he’s never gonna change dramatically. Especially being a flat arc.
WOW, don’t watch any series with continuity ever you will be disappointed as hell buddy. What the fuck is up with Sonic fans and not wanting a consistent character???? Like Marvel is good because of consistent characters why can’t Sonic have that?
The Sonic fanbase has too many gatekeepers
"Sonic is SUPPOSED to be a static character"
"Sonic is SUPPOSED to be Shonen
"Sonic is SUPPOSED to be silent"
"Amy is SUPPOSED to be just a side character"
This franchise has a million interpretations. Yours isn't the only correct one.
Imagine calling me "purist" when I’m just stating a fact. Like some if my favorite movies aren’t western and cartoons and my favorite characters is literally Robin or that I always give good American series their praises. And Animaniacs is one of my favorite shows of all time.
This isn’t a diss but it’s funny that people always assume Sonic is the yapper. Probably due to his American characterization more than anything. I just find it funny I’d clearly see Silver being the yapper since he’s the guy of hope and definitely talks a lot about his feelings
People say Sonic is intelligent yes but he doesn’t ramble he’s a guy if few words. For him to go on like that is not in character. He wouldn’t even say half of that stuff to Sage to begin with. Sonic observes more than he talks and I think not a lot of people get that.
I haven’t posted in a while if anyone cares lol. But here’s a post I’m working on so you can be hype for that. But here’s my two favorite characters from ROTTMNT enjoy. 🙃👍
#fanart
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Have you ever heard of Junichi Kanemaru? He’s voiced Sonic since SA1 and has never stopped. I know crazy right? He’s like the voice of Mario but for Sonic!!!
We are no where near close in any way to Sonic at all in any conceivable way in the universe would this even be considered close. I don’t think him learning to listen to his friends and taking responsibility just automatically means he’s gonna be Sonic. His traits in general are+
Everyone who's complaining about Sonic's characterization in Prime might want to see this.
Seems like he's starting to grow into that more mature Sonic we know... slowly.
#SonicPrime
#Sonic
NO GET GOOD WRITERS IN GENERAL THIS JUST SHOWS IAN HAS NO UNDERSTANDING IN WHWT HES WRITING AND CANT WRITE GOOD!!! Especially for Sonic standards people like Pariah, Emi Jones, or just anyone who knows how to make good dialogue or just good Sonic writing can do it.
And I think even some people who think he wouldn’t talk as much is kind of off too. At this point Sonic would just be tired of hearing it and may comment but he’s not gonna go on a ramble about people. Even with Merlina he doesn’t ramble about life he basically says
"People at their ruin live their life’s to the fullest". He doesn’t go on for more than 5 seconds.
He’s rambling too much about nothing here. Why is he all about love and whatever. He would just say something like. "That’s not how I roll" or "Well that’s not everything."
I’m starting to think Sonic fans don’t understand the role of a flat character arc. Again they don’t go through arcs the show people the truth to have an arc. Sonic was made to impact not be impacted. It’s a simple idea that worked in most of the games you liked this is nonsense
@TigheSammy
So we just acting like Follow Me isn’t basically just Amy’s song??? Like it’s under "Team Rose" but that’s just Amy it’s literally about her being the real Hero of this story the others are there as supporting characters and people she’s helping literally.
This is the one line I always remember besides the ending because he goes against this Nobel idea for the truth which I think Sonic should always represent!!!
So what you’re saying is they aren’t allowed to be a character? You say one dimensional when that means nothing, the point of a character is to take multiple traits and put them into them. He’s been the same for years
And Sega would disagree with you they have guidelines:
Here’s my rewrite for
@StarStormReload
I did a little bit more by making the plot more in line with the actual games. Which means taking out ideas and having the characters actually in character. I also did some redraws to fit dialogue and make it more x/Maekawa cause I like it🧵
So reason I was thinking about IDW 50 again is because I wanted to rewrite some lines. It's definitely not perfect and a big part is that I tried to rewrite dialogue and keep the story's intent.
Starting. Noticeable lack of Sonic's earnesty. He dodges accountability regularly.
To be honest this is the reason I was thinking of making a discord server for Japanese Sonic fans and other Sonic fans who healthily understand what we’re talking about and are able to have a good chat or conversation about it. There’s so much debating and hate on twitter for no+
I really don't enjoy talking about Sonic in such a bad way; I could just disregard the new stuff in the brand, but Sonic has so much potential and is so beautiful. I adore Sonic. Maybe one day they will listen, but for now, we are trapped in corporate greed hell.
Well yeah because the English dialogue changes the characters dramatically to a shitty IDW version making them out of character. While the Japanese tries its best to fix it while having to explain the game and dubbing over the entire English script. It’s been the same for-
People use Black Knight as an example but that’s the worst emoji of how this would go. If you genuinely take in context of what’s happening he wouldn’t speak like he does with Merlina. Shit he doesn’t even do the same for Shahra. It even more simple and doesn’t go the the point-
Of "move on" or anything. Because Sonic doesn’t talk about what is really happening fully he’s subtle. If this was Ian Sonic would be like "Shahra it’s ok you’ll feel better and find someone who will make you feel better and there’s no need to hold back your tears for another day
@ckforbesX
It’s so bad it just shows the lack of knowledge that Ian and sometimes fans have of Sonic. I remember going through a whole conversation because I said Sonic was being super rude for no reason with Amy rushing her to ignore the coco. Eve thought Sonic would help in a heart beat.
This is the thing about Ian he gets some of the stuff about Sonic! But not everything is, it’s still a different character.
There is a reason I made my video.
As a writer who likes to write for other media it’s important I understand more than just the surface. Ian doesn’t-
I HAVE FINALLY FOUND THIS CLIP! Because it's so interesting Ian hardest character to write in the comics was sonic because he was so different from game sonic and that's how he describe "GAME SONIC"!
@Justin61894350
He’d die of old age going in his last adventure with all his friends and maybe fighting with the next generation preferably a Sonic and Eggman Jr.
That’s so bad and preachy. Sonic isn’t the best with words to give all of that. Even if he is a smart guy. He has street smarts and doesn’t know how to hold a real conversation like that. He chooses to make it simple because that’s just how he is. He isn’t the guy with all the-
Sonic isn’t a guy who would say something like that simple he isn’t the best with words. But knows what’s right to do. He lives by his own feelings not by the correct way to do it. And Ian will never understand that because of what he writes and grew up on.
Answers that’s literally what even people from sunset city say about him in the era we are in now. He doesn’t have the answers he understands and does something subtle to help. He lives by his own feeling not explains them. You could never find another example of him doing that.
Did we all forget the dialogue is formulated differently in the Japanese? And literally the entire thing is riding off of Ian dialogue and has to fit it in his flaps as best as they can? Basically replacing this whole line to make it in character and explaining things?
Okay but fr though I don't understand why people defend Kishimoto's rewrites of Frontiers
They're SO MUCH WORSE than the original dialouge
(Audio is the English original, Subtitles are from the JP "translation" Kishimoto did)
I’ll just leave this here because he doesn’t want to have a conversation.
People are ignoring I said he still does heroic things because stupidity lol. Sonic does what he feels it right which is conveniently heroic. He is selfish because it comes down to what he wants.😁
This is my second sketch done on the stream I really did try with this one, and also Axel I used to have a Domo plushie I won at Dorney Park when I was like 12
@MugiwaraMikey
#MugiDrawsGregMartinSonic
No more mandates we need someone who understands the characters. We live in a generation where Sonic fans are grown enough to be writers and there are plenty of people who understand the characters better than the people working on now who don’t have or care for the knowledge
The problem is SOA doesn't have ENOUGH mandates on the characters. Everyone should be as or more chained up than Shadow so whoever writes stories will have detailed guidelines on what they should and shouldn't do. They can learn how these guys are and save us from the headaches.
@Aeyga_X
For a lot of people it is a 9/10 but for me it’s a 10/10 its up there with Shrek 2. And it’s very family oriented but not in a full character/comedic way like Shrek but in a more character/action kind of way there is comedy though. It also handles mature subjects very well.
Hey
@MugiwaraMikey
I usually don’t color until I go digital, what’s a god lab top for digital art? But don’t mind that here is my first drawing for the stream and on Twitter I may post more after this (also sorry cheap paper ripped it)
#MugiDrawsBoomSonic
@TheSiminator135
To be honest these arguments were pretty much happening since the beginning especially during the 2000s era when things got more accurate. More people like with 06 started saying Sonic was becoming "mature" and stuff like that.
Ok Sonic was never cocky the Japanese just shows this.
And the reason Eggman gets Sonic isn’t because of his cocky attitude it’s because he knows Sonic is know to let his guard down and not think things through.
I don’t get how people see Sonic as cocky it’s so bad.
The more evidence comes to mind, the more I dislike how the Japanese side handles these stories.
Sonic's Cockiness is lost here, and Eggman's biggest Achievement in this entire game, of being able to trick sonic, is lost. They never treat him like an actual threat.
Sucks man.
@ThatRebelRosie
Amy, Cream, and Big are supposed to be normal people at their core. What separates Amy is the fact she love’s adventure. Cream does it for the idea of fun at times and big really isn’t supposed to be into adventure at all he did what he did in SA1 so save his friend nothing else.
@StarStormReload
This is why I hate when people sleep on SHTH 05 because this is what gives him his individuality which no one understands. SA2 and SHTH are two different Shadows one was doing it for someone for justice the other is doing it for justice of himself. He doesn’t care who against him
@TheAnimaniacs
@hulu
Yes Dot has always been wise just like that time she said, call me Doty and you die. I was never the same after that it had me in tears!
But then what’s the problem? Slice of life is just a showing of characters throughout the entire show. So what leads it to be bad??? The idea itself is always leading to character focus and character turmoil. How are they doing it bad? Because of you know and like the -
"You just hate Sonic X because its not an action show 24/7"
Buddy there's nothing wrong with a Slice of Life centric show. The problem is the fact that it has to be you know good.
The problem with Sonic X slice of life aspect is that most episodes surrounding it ARE FUCKING
Happy Birthday to the greatest Apologist himself
@GameApologist
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Happy Birthday Nick keep up the great work in your old age. And I’m definitely not late at all.
I’m literally a weeb but I love Western media and so many people are so ignorant to call someone a Japanese purist. No I’m a fan of the original source material and what it’s done for the franchise. I love the original Animaniacs, I love the original SpongeBob. I don’t like +
Thr guys who call me "JP purist" before even talking to me always makes me laugh because they don't realize some of my favorite non-game adaptations of Sonic include these.
Yeah the "JP purist" who loves the American and British comics and cartoon.
Ding ding ding someone said it! The speech isn’t off just because Sonic says it too long it’s because he shouldn’t have to say it to a girl who’s known this dude for multiple years and had literally chased him when he runs off. And the line is a little too long I guess…
Amy hadn't forgotten who Sonic was. If that's the case then that's even more OOC than the speech lol
Think about why she says "I guess you'll be going then."
She's used to him running off to new adventures like this. Which is why Sonic's speech afterward is so awkward
@meldiecourt
@KAMMI_LU
@atlantica2023
The movie is colorless that’s a fact compared to what she drew and what the original looks like of course she looks grey because there’s really not color there at all
Because Sonic fans don’t understand the idea of learning something and having Sonic have the answer. Basically not knowing what the hell a Flat Character arc is.
I tried my best to explain it quick plug👀
I really don't understand the pushback against Sonic being a static character. Y'all realize that's just how he has been in these games right? Y'know, THE most praised Sonic stories by fans? Do y'all not want stories like these anymore? Because this is PURE Sonic right here lol