u'd think armand's a child who can't say don't call me that if he finds arun so offensive/painful especially when louis who has no material power over him after all it's the same scene where he absolutely rejects louis' advice where santiago is concerned with the coven
Unlike the Amadeo name, which he (unfortunately), has some positive connotations with, Arun knew absolutely nothing but pain. I thought when I watched that the acting choices were fairly clear in this particular moment. Does this look like a man who's comforted hearing that name?
"claudia was everything. i loved her unconditionally. all the noise, the chaos, the crisis of my former existence - silenced. the simple joy of her hand in mine..."
it's beyond past time for u lot not to engage with louis' blackness bcs he has no problem with been gay he's not fighting anyone calling him a fag but he's absolutely killing racists
anne rice defended paula deen when she said the n-word anne rice had louis say this in one of her iwtv drafts haven't even touched on the pedo shit she was on so if u want to defend her by all means do so but don't lie abt her racism just bcs she loved aaliyah that one time
in armand's recap of the argument he doesn't mention/acknowledge that he too said hurtful things to louis he just says "... u said the worst things u've ever said to me..." prompting louis to apologize
the writing is so effective in how it refuses to share with us what claudia and madeleine both had and lets them have their memories and words to each for themselves alone away from prying/unworthy eyes and ears of an audience that has been so intent on misunderstanding them both
don't agree with the second !analysis?! him been creole came with a few privileges that could be snatched at a moments notice. this is clearly illustrated by how he interacted with his white 'counterparts'. low-ball offers that he should appreciate
him 🤝🏾 claudia's "cause the first man i killed called me the devil. and the last boy i killed, the last boy I'll ever love in this world, called me an angel"
do you understand how heartbreaking this is like….. louis believed himself to be a sinner a demon a devil etc long before he ever became a vampire and then got called one after but here is claudia who he thinks is the only person who believes otherwise
#iwtvspoilers
implying that the only meaningful romantic relationship claudia had was with madeleine is just false bcs that's not true in the show at all charlie had a huge role into who claudia becomes later e.g her desire to know more abt vampirism is sparked by his death
portraying claudia as a violent black child with those animations (matter of fact whole trial just leans into stereotypes abt black ppl in order to exonerate the yt man)
that claudia de lioncourt cut me deeply in how sad it was giving how claudia in the moment before she doesn't want madeleine to have lestat's blood flowing thru her veins she wants something better for her beloved blood that ensures that the "poison" doesn't drip thru
wash, rinse, repeat. that while louis is content with fading into lestat's misery and horror, claudia cannot accept such a life. because, it seizes to become a life and it's this f*cked up endurance marathon, that goes on... for how long?
folks who used to shut down anyone who'd make mention of lestat's abuse throughout the season but especially episode 5 by saying "it's fiction" "it's gothic romance/horror" "it's supposed to be toxic" are now been loud about how loumand's too toxic in the book
i'll be damned if i let someone kekeing with racists likes/shares whitewashed racist art lecture me abt racism or whats and what's not racist under the guise of "we're not a monolith" intellectually incapacitated & politically diseased fucks
why wld louis exploit armand?? what benefit does he accrue in that?? marius exploited armand and that specific image of armand is called amadeo when if ever did louis call armand amadeo???
antoinette as the "protector/savior" of the yt man been taken advantage of by the darkies who are uncivilized* and reject the enlightened ways of the yt man
they swear up and down they’re not racist but then these people go around and say shit like sam won’t be nominated for awards bc he’s white and white people don’t get recognised 🤡🤡🤡
like why do u think lestat a yt man gets to do that and in france but louis cldnt do that in new orleans race absolutely plays a factor and that needs to be considered at all times louis is a black gay man not just gay and the society he lived/s punishes him doubly for both
armand refusing to make madeleine at louis' request and louis refusing to exploit their dynamic at sacré cœur "are u making me or asking" and louis stepping back shld indicate to the audience that louis holds no power over armand or even manipulative at any juncture but alas
an interesting exploration wld be what material conditions in louisiana but specifically new orleans made prostitution/brothels such a lucrative venture and why was louis drawn to it vs why he isn't in paris considering u lot think pimping is an inherent trait and not capitalism
armand's the most terrifying creature in his&louis' relationship and u r busy writing him as some poorly wronged bastard💀 in the most boring of ways like u cld explore him in a way that makes ur readers question their sanity there with louis but noooo make louis the aggressor
"a stupid teenage joke" "teenage boys are stupid" abt a yt man taking advantage of a girl is absolutely deranged "she agreed to it so it's fine" no it's not fine bcs who really has the power in that dynamic?!
he doesn't address the alderman's sodomite townhouse comment or even antoinette's rumors they don't add another bed in the boudoir after the police raid* and them threatening him with his queerness all homophobic vitriol is directed at him in new orleans
when ep01+02 came out during season 1 countable ppl actually loved louis and were interested in him the "biggest" account in the budding fandom was ncl and they wldnt even talk abt louis let alone post him so idk what to tell u but like it's always been this way
and be honored with. the additional 'sir' when he's speaking with them. him been creole doesn't save him when the ordinance was passed. he loses his business. "Mm, this tedious Nеgrо, still clinging to his Creole heritage like a life raft." - the alderman
charlie was such a huge part of claudia's life bcs his death wasn't just a footnote to claudia it broke her she not only begins her erratic killing but also tries to make companions in which she fails bcs of her small body
don't agree with the second !analysis?! him been creole came with a few privileges that could be snatched at a moments notice. this is clearly illustrated by how he interacted with his white 'counterparts'. low-ball offers that he should appreciate
"in life" is insane bcs here louis' a vampire (the 2nd insert is especially egregious given louis goes on this dehumanizing rant so as to justify him and lestat killing the slaves revolting)
it's interesting how ppl handle daniel and his aggressions as just a man who cares too much abt the story to the point of callousness with his subjects and refuse to see how race plays a factor in that "that's how daniel is" and other stories
and we don't see him rushing out to get the record straight so no he's not ashamed abt been gay the only time in the show a homophobe is confronted is at the trial and lestat does that
claudia sharing her sexual assault allows us to sit with her in her pain and inform us how that impacted her psychologically pair that with her having to go home and face+watch another violation, forced* to be louis' caretaker and having to hold all of this within herself
people who get all hot and bothered about "delusional" armand/loumand fans are weird to me because atp, there are the most harmless part of fandom compared to the racist and victim blaming shit i've seen... like out of all the things that's what bothers you?? lol
in all my years of binging shows i never thought i'd ever ask a question like "what happened to the baby's melanin?"... so thank you mayfair witches, i couldn't have done it without you.
if anything louis thinks he's now in control bcs armand LETS him but he clearly isn't and will never be he will always in fact be at armand's mercy (just bcs armand's desperate for love doesn't mean louis' now powerful)
louis is the only character so far who's gay and he's been shown to feed primarily on men and everyone else feeds on non discriminatoryly do with that what u will
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like we should take the narration of black characters with absolute scrutiny but believe entirely the words of a french white man's recollection of events in jim crow america...
louis wants so bad to feel in control of the relationship bcs the last time he ceded it it turned out disastrous and armand lets him have it bcs it means he gets louis
also bringing up a country currently undergoing genocide as a shield to any criticism just shows how utterly despicable of a person u are. these are lives that shouldn't be addressed with such carelessness when no one even brought them up in the issue at hand
shld probably stop talking but armand's literally telling u the structures/individuals that denied him his autonomy and violated him but u r focused on louis who did nothing of the sort
just read some of the weirdest and widespread takes "louis became louis the pimp" is the constant refrain and does anyone even have an idea of what that means
watched blink twice and we need to start actually reading feminist texts its actually a crisis how devoid of substance what we've allowed to masquerade as feminism girl boss feminism is a cancer im so sick of this shit tbh fucking promising young woman level of msunery
love this fandom bcs if anything it's a good example of the prevalence of white supremacy in supposedly a progressive space or as i will be calling it diversified yt supremacy
and charlie did see claudia it might not have been wrt her nature (which when she begins feeding on him he doesn't even fight her he accepts her but this is my interpretation) but does he see her
racism in all its forms is violent but instead of addressing it youre constantly busying yourself with condemning the tone of those who call it out with the vehemence it requires.
"louis the pimp" doesn't make sense out of new orleans in the 1910s like when daniel invokes it in dubai he says "...still louis the pimp paying a whore to sit in a room and talk with u" don't know why u lot associate his business/capitalist side with pimp 💀
louis' already a monster bcs he's a black man hence the racist imagery at the trial and lestat saying shit like "i a vampire was been hunted" the acceptance at the end is abt vampirism not abt queerness the acceptance of the latter already happened
himself (a monster in the eyes of many). now ofc louis still struggled with this for decades, but the end of this arc is him finally accepting himself. he literally says “i didn’t know it was a gift, i wore it like a curse” what do u think that means then?
and it'll remain that way bcs economics of ytness v blackness in all fandoms this by no means telling anyone not to call out racism but been shocked at pple's desirability is what's funny to me
a lot of tears in this season of we are lady parts a lot exploring oneself outside of roles (really loved bisma's storyline) finding purpose (taz) its "who are u" and "what do u want" season
u'd think that such a revelation shld indicate that no meaningful consent can be had bcs it's cruelty for the sake of reifying yt manhood but no bcs it's uncomfortable to unpack that let's a) minimize the harm as been a teenager b) say he was closeted hence the bag on her head
at no point in her writing career was ar interested in race and racism in fact she portrays black bodies as disposable whether in the plantation, in rue royale or even as theyre preparing to leave new orleans
so funny to me that there 2 camps so to speak when it comes to louis' unreliability or the ever misused "unreliable narrator"... one where its ascribed because louis sort of is denial of the abusive/unequal relationship he shared with lestat and how that
now that i can think... you really want to blame miss lily?? her, who's been hired there for the sole purpose of been fetishized by white men who visit that establishment. who knows what horrors she faced, yet that's the person you want to say they deserve their fate??
the garish display of the alderman's body is a callback?! to how white folk used to take runway slaves, maim them and publicly display their heads on the iron gates as a warning... louis says as much, at the beginning of the episode
forgive us if we're uninterested with breaking bread or singing kumbaya with racists so as to not be seen as "troublesome blacks constantly obsessed with race" not everyone's unprincipled and interested in lukewarmness (and we're continental black folk too fyi)
because it's not been used to say louis put on a brash persona as a performance (bcs that's who louis the pimp was) its been used to say louis became armand's oppressor/sexual abuser/master
if you don't want to analyze the show using a political lens then just say that... we get it, you're tired of the darkies talking about race all the time and synthesizing the show that way... i mean you lot don't even analyze those books and you've had them for a decade so
but then i guess that makes sense for a fandom that always excuses lestat's racist actions and in the same breath find fenwick's absolutely abhorrent because to u lot racism=n-word otherwise it's a silly excusable offense
louis accepts his misstep, killing the alderman (for understandable but selfish reasons) and what that wrought upon the black community. he even divulges this to claudia. albeit not enough, but he takes ownership for his actions.
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"most privileged black man in america" who plays valet, calls yt men sir, gets called negro, business gets shutdown due to racist policies, has adhere to segregation laws and sit at the back of the streetcar with his negro daughter
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People are attracted to Anne Rice's vampire world because of Lestat. Sam Reid's acting in this role is Emmy and Golden Globes worthy. Jacob is fine, but Sam steals every scene he's in.
lost the needle to this thread but i think there's a severe refusal to investigate just how much maker and lover inform louis' reliability especially in this version of the interview. assigning him as a liar is just lazy to me because how would that serve the narrative?!