Quick prototype of the next iteration of the c-pad. This one won't require any shell modding or 3d printed front shells, just the buttons, gate insert, and replacement cstick PCB. Compatible with phob2 only for now.
Gonna be selling these as a mod kit soonish.
A little something I've been working on -- replaceable notched gate inserts in 3D printed shells. This is just the first prototype but it seems to work pretty well.
Belt/pocket clip + cable holder for the Tadpole!
These will be available for purchase in a limited quantity along with the Tadpole drop. (This video is just a prototype, final versions will look even nicer)
New "WASD" movement cluster concept. I think there might be a lot of potential applications for this for either digital or analog devices, and it might alleviate some of the ergonomic concerns with both NSOCD and WASD movement.
C-Pad progress continues!
Still some minor tolerance issues to work out with the center insert piece, and I'm not totally happy with the colors yet (the yellow should be brighter and the pink should be purple) but otherwise it's getting close.
Very satisfyingly clicky
All of the design files for the c-pad have been open-sourced and can be found at:
Anyone can make/sell their own, fork the design, etc., so long as they abide by the terms of the open source license.
RTs appreciated for visibility
Been working on this for the past few days and it's finally at the point where I can show off a rough demo -
Check out the Frog Lever (working name)!
A low-profile analog arcade joystick using a single magnet and a 3D hall-effect sensor. More to come!
Prototype batch of c-pad boards arrived and seem to work perfectly, just did a conversion on a T3 OEM
Going to be ordering bulk parts, getting some of these initial units out to testers, and prepping the design files for being posted publicly.
Orders opening soon!
Split dpad module that fits into a 30mm button hole just like a screw-in arcade button. Will have a 5-pin connector to go straight into a brook board, gp2040 breakout board, etc.
Do you ever wake up in the morning and think "box controllers are just too darn big"?
If so - I have just the thing for you:
Introducing the Rana Tadpole!
(Available soon(ish), stay tuned for more details)
Very early proof of concept for easy "paddle" buttons on GCC. Uses the same screw hole as the shell and just requires a small hole drilled in the shell for wires (which is covered by the paddle housing)
First (kinda) working prototype analog build
Only playable on dolphin at the moment because the Frog Lever and the Tadpole are on separate microcontrollers with a custom dolphin profile that reads from both of them.
It's pretty fun to play on though!
Instead of arcade buttons or mechanical keyboard switches like most digital controllers, the Rana Tadpole uses Kailh GM 4.0 mouseclick switches, rated to 60 million presses.
C-Pad preorders open tomorrow!
There will be enough slots that I don't expect them to sell out instantly.
Hoping to ship around early/mid-May, but I'll keep y'all updated on the progress if anything changes there.
Price is $30 + shipping (worldwide shipping available)
Another concept that's been in the back of my mind for a while:
Analog movement with a "puck", similar grip and motion to using a mouse.
I've tried a few more complicated versions of this idea but just using analog hall effect switches seems like it might work pretty well.
Fun fact: B0XX can run custom firmware. B0XX R4 actually uses a Raspberry Pi Pico, same as almost all modern DIY digital controllers.
Banning DIY but not B0XX because B0XX was made by a company is nonsensical. Just as easy to cheat on a B0XX
Testing the 3D printable Tadpole design, and it seems to work great.
This is small enough to be printed in one piece on most consumer 3D printers, and with the solderless assembly of the PCBs it will be a very accessible DIY controller for a lot of people!
... this is not a patent for Hall Effect-like joysticks.
It is a patent for haptic feedback joysticks using magnetorheological damping (the force required to move the joystick could be adjusted on the fly according to what's happening in the game).
Still cool, not hall effect.
Banana for scale?
HUGE ANNOUNEMENT!
Tadpole preorders open this Wednesday at 6:00 CDT!
50 slots available, $95 USD + shipping (intl. shipping available. Target is end of September/early October for preorder fulfillment.
More info (and another announcement 👀) below 👇
Final Tadpole PCB and chassis prototypes have arrived and they look great!
Gotta finalize a date for pre-orders opening but it will be very soon.
More announcements to come 👀
It's been a long hiatus but I'm back working on the F.R.O.G Buttons!
What's new:
- 30mm version in addition to 24mm
- better way of stopping cap rotation, should help a lot with consistent actuation feel
Introducing (the next prototype of) the F.R.O.G Button!
- sub-MM actuation
- consistent light touch from all sides
- easily FDM printed
- fits in cases as slim as 18mm
- single-sided assembly for the PCB
(F.R.O.G = Fast Response for Optimal Gaming)
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30mm Frog Button prototype.
The good:
- feels and sounds great
- cap rotation minimized without affecting actuation
- super sensitive, especially at the edges
The bad:
- currently pretty annoying to assemble
Once I fix that I think we'll be looking pretty good
Check out this prototype Rana Digital build I've been working on for the past couple weeks!
- Powder coated CNC aluminum chassis
- CNC ABS backplate
- gasket mounted per-cluster switchplates
- engraved foam pad
- SLS nylon caps
- Akko CS Silver switches
- Handwired
Rana Tadpole CNC chassis prototypes arrived!
Fit is perfect, just need to work on the finish (final ones will be bead blasted for a uniform matte surface)
I will be making a batch of *at least* 50x of these, exact price TBD but should be <$100 USD.
More info to come later!
New little mod I'm working on - tall Z button for folks like me that have large hands. For increased durability I'm making it with a stainless steel pin rather than plastic pegs
Built a Phob 2.0.2 to test a new shape for the c-pad buttons.
Also getting closer to a good tall Z (this one doesn't get stuck yay)
And of course the USB C combo port for flashing firmware, USB-GCC console/adapter connection, and PhobVision through my Phongle board.
-> Box Controller Nerfs <-
This readme has been updated with additional context, explanation, and reasoning behind the proposed nerfs.
Highly recommend reading for anyone interested!
Feel free to RT, etc. Keep in mind that none of this is final.
Shipment just arrived from our CNC vendor!
Still more work to do but we are on track for the fulfillment date for this batch of Tadpole pre-orders.
More updates to come in the next few weeks!
One of my big goals for 2024 is to finish and release the Frog Lever.
Did some first tests of a flexible grommet mechanism today and this seems promising for centering more precisely than the springs I was previously using.
Coming very soon to my Ko-fi store:
Injection molded PBT keycaps, in a custom subtly concave profile.
Price will be $1/cap, with bulk rates available for orders of 100+ caps.
Note: these are for MX switches, and aren't compatible with low profile switches.
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The 50 pre-order Tadpoles are fully built and tested!
I know I'm a bit behind when I intended to ship these, but I appreciate y'all's patience, and I'm excited to hear your thoughts once you receive them. (I'm very happy with how they turned out and I think you will be too!)
Doing something a bit silly - but it didn't cost any extra so I figured why not.
Getting these really nice braided USB C-A cables for the Tadpoles and the factory said they could print a logo for no extra price.
Making a one-off prototype WASD Rana Digital for
@technospiderssb
Pretty fun little project, and it gives me a chance to use up a few parts I wouldn't otherwise have used
C-Pad preorders are live!
100x available for PhobGCC 2.0
150x available for T3 OEM / PhobGCC 1.X
Price is $30
If you'd prefer to make your own (or make them to sell!) rather than buying one from me, all design files will be posted to a Github repo soon!
Working hard assembling all these Tadpoles from the latest drop to hit my target of shipping early next week.
Super super happy with how these are coming out, I think they are the highest quality product I've made thus far.
Cores have arrived!
Just waiting on PCBs now, but those are still on track to get here by the end of the month. Very very excited to start shipping these out ASAP.
I'll be closing preorders at some point in the next couple days to focus on logistics for packaging/shipping
Just backed the cool GC Ultimate project by
@MitchHHL
Maybe I'll make a c-pad for this controller, or do a production run of notched gates in the future?
Preparing for a new tadpole drop later this week. This drop will use up the rest of the leftover aluminum and Delrin cases from last year's manufacturing, with updated motherboards, PBT buttons, and silicone grips.
20+ units
These ones are feelin' gooood
Coming soon to a Tadpole V2 near you:
- PS4/PS5 passthrough
- Dual boot (for example, load both Haybox and GP2040-CE, select which one to boot into with a switch)
Rana Digital drop next weekend!
(Saturday, Jan 07 at 4:00 PM CST)
There will be 10 controllers available - last batch sold out in 15 seconds so ya gotta be quick!
Price is $210 USD + shipping
Rana Stickbox? Size comparison of the prototype to a GCC T3 stickbox
Design seems like an OK start. Way too much friction with the resin print though, even with grease it doesn't want to recenter very well. Gonna try to fix with a combo of resin and FDM printing (or maybe SLS)
If incompetence leads to an open-source controller design preferred by thousands of players (including many of melee's best) then I can't even imagine what kind of crazy things the "competent" people are working on!
@moky_dokie
The proliferation of alternative controllers (and controller mods) is very cool and a good thing.
It's very fun to be in a community that values open-source innovation in that are
Check out the GitHub repository for the Rana Tadpole! As promised, the design is fully open source.
Also, I have uploaded an assembly guide for the controller.
@imsorrydirty
Naw, this is gonna be open sourced this week so anyone can make their own.
It costs time + money + experience to develop hardware like this. Lots of people have talked about a c-pad mod but nobody has made a mass-producible version yet.
POLL:
Should the new c-pad design be rotated counterclockwise 45 degrees? (So "c-up" is pointed up-left)
Pros: matches the natural motion of the thumb better, might help with misinputting B/c-up
Cons: maybe less intuitive?
[Poll in next tweet]
Prototypes arrived from the factory for the new textured silicone grip pads for the Tadpole!
These will be a big upgrade over the EVA foam I was using previously
What I'm thinking currently for Tadpole pricing. Itemizing the accessories allows me to keep the price as low as possible for people who just want the controller.
@TrapStarFox
TBD but what I'm shooting for is:
$95 USD for controller (includes USB C to A cable)
+$6 for USB C - GCC cable
+ $10 for zipper pouch
+ $17 for belt clip