@newjidorr
omg it was funny at first but now it just seems like kpop stans have zero business knowledge or something😭 Ive no idea why they think that statement is weird literally just normal competitor analysis and business considerations ong
@anyujinsss
oh the girlies are RICH alright, probably even richer than some more popular groups. Starship's management sucks but they're one of the most generous companies with their salary contract
i just saw jihyo's video and wow... cnetz anger is not for nothing. Like i'm sorry but what made her think that video was okay...? anyone who was in kpop during 2016 will know how incredibly scary that whole incident was for tzuyu and what a humiliation that video was
@bitterjeans
ILLIT was his attempt at creating a replacement of new jeans. or perhaps his way of warning mhj that he can recreate NJ's success any time. When ILLIT first came out, a lot of people pointed out how they felt so similar to NJs. Also explains why they went so extreme on the payola
@Hunnieheartexo
omg i used to be a heavy exol back in their debut era when i tell u back in 2013-2014 b+5 rode HEAVILY on exo's name....a lot of exols supported that group in 2013 bc there was this whole thing about a certain member of that group being baekhyun's and BAP's daehyun's son?
@pimdoongie
so thats why they seemed so unprepared and why hybe seemed to be in a rush to debut lsf. I watched their pre debut documentary and always felt it was so weird how they were actively recruiting people to directly debut, instead of choosing trainees like what other companies do
@mythssera
@MinJinHK
yeah I never understood this tbh😭 Korea culture originated from China ofc but after so long sk has the right to call it theirs. But the cnetz expect them to say its chinese culture. But its not like anyone denied its originated from China, its literally taught in their books
@henoaerxck
western and asian cultural difference I guess, I know in Asia these types of bosses would be praised but I believe westerners have strict boundaries between work and personal life so they see bosses that become friendly on a personal level with employees as wrong
she was being witch hunted by millions of people and almost at risk of being banned from her own country and even jailed. Like that video jihyo made was way too similar for it to be a coincidence. she could've rejected and brought it up
@viraltakes
for what? exposing their shady actions 😭 only they can expose mhj, mhj can't expose them back?? ukw mhj is a shady lady herself but I feel bad for her shes going up alone against a huge, rich, and powerful corporation
@barbiedreams077
@bitterjeans
@nwjihye
theyre supporting mhj more bc hybe is acting like a typical evil corporation doing mass censorship on korean forums, starting smear campaigns left and right using their connections, doing payola etc.
@thatglitterhag
@yslspinks
this shit not even gonna work honestly😭 they're adding thousands of accounts inside from all over the world acting as if hybe will sue cross-country for all of them, it's gonna cost millions😭😭
@ning2s_pokemons
it sounds like the cult is pretty well-known in south korea, i did a google search its wiki page is body & brain / dahn hak / dahn yoga
Even I a non fan knows about their mistreatment by the agency esp taehyung who bsh always used to ignore and can't even remember his name and face but their fans be riding bsh d!ck so hard omg
@GZBramos
@kchartsmaster
kpop fans are mostly young and seeing this as a black or white situation but it's not. it's just a power struggle between two disgustng rich execs
@A_tannies_X
@tinakiHaerin
they used to, not anymore after mhj and bsh fell out. Hybe chose this timing right before NJ's comeback to expose everything on purpose
@getlouud
c-onces are MAD now bc they know just how much of a humiliation that video is to tzuyu, that whole incident also sort of ended her career in China (which was very promising back then cus she was really popular there). so now its considered a huge trigger for the fandom
@komiflan
@mythssera
anytime an idol displays korean culture or smth they get hate from cnetz lol, cuz cnetz want them to say it's chinese / originated from china or whatever. This time the hate for ive more since wony just blew up in china
@shbjeans
I said that hybe wants to push illit to be nwjn's replacement and might shelve them and got attacked by fans, yall place too much trust in hybe lol they're literally so poorly run and keep making bad business decisions 😭
@bitterjeans
cuz at the end of the day neither of them have shown solid proof, it's still mostly a he said she said situation😭 but miss girly mhj here has at least stepped out to give a detailed recount. meanwhile hybe be conducting mass censorship on korean forums
people who weren't there in 2016 and have no idea of the political situation in China back then plz just stfu cus u have no idea just how serious that incident was bruh 😅
@getlouud
thats their issue tho? jihyo is supposed to be a friend and their leader. Some randos hating on you vs your trusted friend and leader, is way different
that stupid incident affected her entire career, till this day she's never entered china again bc her identity is still a sensitive issue there. she was the top back then but after that whole incident jyp started shelving her (which was also a way of protecting her i guess)
@JAZZSAIKIDELIC
yeah not surprised, people are shocked but this is south korea we're talking about, their cult problem is HUGE. even their previous impeached president was linked to some cult
@Vampforenha
@Ace_BBH
what other companies do: improve their music and concepts, attend more variety shows
Hybe's way: starting smear campaigns, buying awards
@GZBramos
@kchartsmaster
I mean duh, she was just a worker class lady when she first joined hybe there's no way she'd be able to orchestrate the entire soumu mess without approval from hybe execs. Bsh and perhaps some other execs were all in on this. now they're going through a power struggle
@Wonyonismo_
@chartsive
@IVEstarship
hybe is purposely pitting svt against them lol this is like the second time they had comebacks at the same time alr😭 and then we found out from the mhj fiasco that hybe has insider info of aespa comeback dates soooo....
@haecuntz
@eastoflexonly
tf is the point of a fake bl vlog😭😭 like if u wanna watch a bl tv show or movie it's understandable cus there's a plot and stuff. If u want to watch the everyday life of a gay couple just go support some real gay couple channels??😭 real gay couples are being discriminated
@STARSHIPent
@IVEstarship
hello STARSHIT this should be ALARMING to you!!! two eras straight of weak songs and charts, you saw what happened to itzy after they switched styles. Idk why you're so obsessed with rap. If next era is not a hit it's dangerous for IVE
why are they focusing on the group instead of the cult😭😭 like that cult literally has a scam university that uses kpop incl the biggest kpop group to attract students and then possibly brainwash. Is no one else seeing how serious that is? feels like a documentary in the making
@yuijeans
their reputation is already stained tbh. That's why their stock prices fell so much. maybe among intl fans there are still some people defending h*be, but within korea its pretty one sided at this point, no one is supporting h*be.
On a side note, I bet u write amazing essays🫡
@jueun4season
@bitterjeans
paying money to artificially inflate a group/song's results. for example how illit consistently got 5k streaming/chart points on music shows (thats what bts butter, jennie solo etc. got), and when you play music on spotify and every other song will jump to magnetic next
they need to cancel her schedule for now until the person is captured I don't wanna take any chances 😭😭 my bubbly girl just came to bubble today saying she's happy... what the fk is wrong with people
apparently someone uploaded a post on a community site that threatened JWY's safety
sse reported the post to the national police agency & now they've launched an investigation into the OP
they've asked for immediate investigation & protection for WY; will take legal action ASAP
@Ramde44730561
@chartsive
@IVEstarship
know to switch back for next comeback esp now with heya they offended cnetz just one month after wony exploded in popularity there. They need to fire their execs and hire new ones cuz they are just making poor decision after poor decision
@getlouud
its a diff group of people, that period was like around the peak of tensions for the whole taiwan issue in China, so its more of the gneral public that was attacking her. One of the top celebs back then also churned in to fuel the flames. now is twice fans defending her and mad
@CakeDegg
omg ok so apparently bsh cousin founded netmarbles or something and cj ent is one of the largest shareholders of netmarbles and owns a lot of companies like mnet, mama, dispatch, genie etc. So in conclusion BSH has connections with chaebols
these days my fyp has been FILLED with korea/seoul trip videos and the amount of times i saw wonyoung 🥲 and most were by non kpoppers😭 she really just is everywhere, obviously i already knew and it’s one of the reasons im so proud of her, but it hits me everytime :) it girl🤍
@getlouud
at jihyo. which tbh rightfully so, im really being conservative when I say only millions of cnetz were witchhunting her. Cuz back then on weibo her issue was BIG. like she was almost made into the poster child of supporting tw independence (aka the country's political enemy then)
@fentyvm
@newjidorr
its not withcraft, shamanism is very common in korea. Many businesswomen/men will seek shaman help for their business decisions. That includes the debut of new groups. Cmon even their former president wss involved with shamans Lol. those kdramas are reflecting reality