hc isn't creepy for making 10,000 statues of xl bc it's a perfectly normal thing in chinese or buddhist culture to make thousands of states of deities. it's not creepy or obsessive, it's a normal religious act. there's literally a temple in hong kong w 13,000 buddha statues
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hc getting so bored he started changing his outfits rapidly to get gege's attention while sqx's life was literally in danger and xl actually getting v distracted and having to stop himself from automatically blurting out compliments for hc's outfits
op sadly deactivated their tumblr, but this is a good meta post about what xie lian's "body in abyss, heart in paradise" quote means and how it's based on taoist/buddhist values and worldview (full post: )
finally got a copy of the revised tgcf novels and skimmed book 4 and the fenglian friend breakup hurts so much more in the revised version...
fx's line abt "then why have i followed you all this time" is removed & instead xl says "i don't need you anymore, you should go."
its fucked up that hualian are connected in this way by that same extremely traumatic event. xl's trauma is self-explanatory. meanwhile hc experienced the trauma of being powerless, watching his beloved go through hell unable to do a thing, just like how hc was powerless as a
we dont talk about hua chengโs trauma related to the hundred swords incident enough. i need someone good at writing meta to analyze this aspect of his character
i donโt love xl bc heโs perfect & can do no wrong. i love xl precisely bc heโs flawed & human & screws up but despite it all he fought to hold on to his values & stay true to himself. all his life, all he wanted to do was to help ppl. bc he *cares*. not bc heโs arrogant & thinks+
i wish ppl remembered "what matters is you not the state of you" is actually xl's words, and hc just repeated them... xl says lots of times through the novel that he doesn't care if someone is a beggar or emperor, a ghost or human, ugly or beautiful, glorious or fallen
there is a common misinterpretation that Xie Lian was mean to Xiao Ying, calling her ugly. however, this is a misinterpretation for a few reasons, including mistaking the 3rd Person Omniscient Narrator's voice for Xie Lian's voice. see this about how to CN fans it was clear that+
hc is often stunned by xl's gestures of care towards him eg giving him his bamboo hat, bc hc has spent so long one-sidedly loving & protecting xl that the thought never crossed his mind that xl might come to care for him in return & want to protect him too, or even fall for him
mxtx's author's dedications on each of the 3 volumes of the revised version ๐ฅบ
"by the heavenly official's blessing, no paths are bound"
"what matters is you, not the state of you"
"on gentleness, dreams, something never to be given up on, and someone never to be forgotten."
sqx gifted 50000 merits,
fu yao gifted 1 merit,
nan feng gifted 50 merits,
qr gifted 10 ghost fires+1 wedding greeting,
black water gifted 1 underworld currency(?),
nanyang zhenjun gifted 1 wedding greeting,
xuanzhen general gifted 10 eyerolls,
virtuous&beautiful gave 1 bday gift
LOOK!! in huachengโs birthday video ้ฃๅธๅคงไบบ(sqq), ๆถๆ(fu yao) ็ปฟ่ฒ็ๅ ฌๅญ(qirong) ๅ้ฃ(nan feng) ้ปๆฐด(he xuan) ๅ้ณ็ๅ (mu qing) ็็ๅฐๅ(mu qing) THEY ALL GIVE HIM GIFTS!!! this is too cute
HC telling XL "No. Keep talking. I really want to listen." in the audio drama/revised novel, just like how HC told XL "Then tell me again. I want to listen. It will never be enough no matter how much I listen." in the Ghost King's Bedtime Story extra...
THE FIRST LINE OF THE NAN FENG DONGHUA SONG.... "้็ฝ่กฃ่บซๅฝฑ ๅไธไบบ้ดๅป" ("following the silhouette of the figure in white / descending to the mortal realm together")...... FENGLIANISTS HOW ARE WE FEELING
always thinking about how as immense as hua cheng's love for xie lian is, xl loves him back just as intensely, just as overwhelmingly, helplessly, painfully much, so much that he can't even hide it from anyone in the slightest.
feng xin tried so hard to take care of jian lan, xie lian, AND the king and queen all at the same time. he would have tried his best to be a good dad to cuo cuo too if he'd been given the chance to
i don't think it's that xl was never happy before he met hc, but that hc made happiness so simple & come so easily. bc hc's mischievous/playful nature always makes xl laugh w little things like hc changing his clothes or sticking out his tongue or hc as lang ying praising himself
xie lian who joins a war in order to prevent more deaths and save lives. xie lian who takes in stray kids orphaned by the war and encouraged them to chase their dreams. xie lian who was once again trampled and humiliated and cut to pieces by swords
the reason why hualian's love is so beautiful is bc it's about someone seeing every single side of you, including the worst, darkest, ugliest parts of you, and loving all of you unconditionally
tgcf audio drama team understood hua cheng when they said that the core of his whole concept as a character was "Ultimate beauty, ultimate danger, ultimate devoutness"... hc & his feelings for xl are meant to be the concept of extreme religious devotion + extreme romantic passion
If there is no red thread binding us together Iโll grab a string and do it myself, loop it twice around our wrists, tie it with a knot and a kiss for good measure. Fate has no business telling me who to love. Iโve been yours since we met.
hua cheng is such a tragically beautiful character. everything that makes up hc... 800 years of unimaginable pain, suffering & abuse. 800 years of overwhelming love, devotion & longing. the supreme ghost king born of love...... defined just as much by love as he is by pain
xie lian's choice to be kind is a deliberate one. 800 years ago, he almost, almost gave in to hatred and rage, tried to destroy yong'an in revenge. and for 800 yrs after, he carried 3 objects from the darkest time of his life to remind himself never to make the same mistake again
san lang's va said what strikes/moves him most about san lang is his restraint and sense of propriety (idk how to translate that part), how he wants to get close to xl but at the same time is afraid to get too close....
hua cheng's expression being cold whenever he's not looking at xie lian, but smiling automatically without even realising when xie lian calls his name ๐
yeah in cn xl doesnt sound mean or sarcastic at all ๐ญ๐ญ i guess its linguistic differences bc theres some words that sound mean/harsh in eng, but in cn it isn't at all. + imo there's some instances where, if anything, its the narrator, not xl, being sardonic (its mxtx's humor)
i mentioned that xie lian is seen as being sarcastic (but funny) in one scene by some international fans and someone replied with this. like i wouldn't have known otherwise that there was wordplay involved
hua cheng qi yan
๐ค
gay, in love with a dianxia, devoted to & protective of their dianxia, flower seeker, unusual eye color, sexc, tall, traumatic past, genius, crafty, biracial, sculpting, fake smile, charismatic, skilled at everything, prince/king
attempted to roughly translate this but honestly struggled a lot๐ญ the language used is so poetic, they described him so beautifully and understood his character so well
they're discussing hua cheng's character design now and man, i love this part. i'm not sure how accurate the mtl is but i like how they put it: "His love is like a fire in the abyss. He seems to be at ease on the surface, but inside he is always burning repressed and feverishly."
why do ppl see san lang as separate from hua cheng, or just a persona/facade hc put on? to me that playful, youthful, cheeky san lang IS also hc. he didn't stop being playful and cheeky after xl find out he's a ghost king, in fact hc was still acting like that postcanon
also in tgcf, gods fade away when they don't have any worshippers + they need a statue/painting for ppl to worship them with. as xl's only worshipper left, hc needed to make statues/paintings to keep xl from fading. (and the actual no. isn't even 10,000 but <1000)
still thinking about how xie lian was so lonely and had no one to listen to him for 800 years, but hua cheng loves listening to him talk and always wants to listen no matter what......
"้่ฟไฝ ๏ผ ๅฐๅฐฝ่พ้ ธ้ฝๆ ๅณ" this line means something like, "after having missed you, all of life's sorrows lose their flavour", referring to how bc hc couldn't find xl for those 800 years, all of life's sorrows pale in comparison to the pain of xl slipping away
ban yue hua cheng
๐ค
bullied & beaten by other kids, starved on the streets, lost their mom young, grew up alone, mixed ethnicity, became powerful ghosts on their own, were saved by xie lian when they were young, were inspired by xl, love xl
its just. hc was always gonna give xl his ashes but the fact he did it right after hearing xl say he didn't care if hc is ugly and still wants to see his real face. how deeply it moved hc bc no one had ever made him feel that kind of unconditional love & acceptance before
xie lian doesn't have a savior complex, he's genuinely compassionate. when yong an had a drought, when young hc was being bullied, no other character cared or bothered to help except xl. every other character was disapproving/trying to dissuade him, he ignored all of them to help
we talk a lot abt hua cheng's love for xie lian & for good reason, but xl's love is just as moving. xl's love is so healing for hc bc its so unconditional: "what matters is you, not the state of you". its exactly what hc needs aft being starved of love all his life, exactly what-
i think a big reason xl didn't think he could be hc's beloved is also bc of xl's low self esteem. hc described him as someone noble, gracious, beautiful, virtuous, but xl doesn't see himself like that at all. he has a distorted self image and when he talks abt himself there seems
i translated a few parts from the audio drama ep 12 on my tumblr, posting here too as the scene was too good not to share. it's a new scene from the uncensored revised novel taking place shortly after the original gambler's den dice-throwing scene
there are literally lots of "thousand buddha caves" in china that likely inspired mxtx when she made the tonglu cave, & other common places of worship with 10,000+ divine statues. it's a common thing in buddhism/taoism (which mxtx draws many influences from)
xie lian who throws himself headfirst into danger to save strangers, xl who plants flowers for even ghosts to escort them to the next life, xl who saves&soothes kids abandoned by the world for being "monsters", xl who defies the heavens to follow his ideals, xl who said whats the
& hc was locked in tonglu for 10 whole yrs w nothing else to distract him from the bloodbath. making statues/murals was his way to stay sane amidst the killing. he was in a bad state in tonglu, his soul/ consciousness had almost shattered after taking the curses of the vengeful +
as for the "erotic art": in the statues extra u can see it was actly just the statue of the land of tender scene. that extra shows us hc was just trying to sculpt/paint every memory he had of xl. which happened to include the land of tender scene (among many other xl scenes). +
love how hualian are each other's first and only loves in every way... in 800 years, xl has never fallen for anyone else and in 800 years, hc has never fallen for anyone else. no one makes them feel the way they make each other feel
xl's desire to save ppl was genuine, not a savior complex. he wasnt some entitled bourgie bootlicker, he was literally the only char who bothered trying to help starving commoners in bk 2, bc he genuinely cares. yes he grew up privileged, but he spent 800 yrs living in poverty
like east asian ideals of masculinity + standards of beauty for men include elements that are traditionally considered feminine by western society. our ideals of masculinity just look diff from yours. & our martial artists can have a diff body type from ur white jocks
there was no other nsfw art of xl. so no hc wasn't sexualising xl or making creepy predatory art of xl, he was just trying to preserve each memory he had of xl.
spirits for xl & his state was so unstable that he almost accidentally killed the grp of innocent humans in tonglu. so i interpreted carving the statues as his way of trying to stay tethered to his humanity in those 10 years there.
i rly love hua cheng's VA in the AD, he portrays the full range of hc's personality & emotions so well. he perfectly captures the playful & cheeky san lang, the dangerous & fearsome ghost king xueyutanhua; he's sweet & tender & soft with xl, teasing, alluring, clever, charismatic
xl's va about his thoughts reading tgcf: "i realized that the earlier part of the novel was all candy/sweet, and the later parts were all knives" SKSBSJSM HES RIGHT
"the ox cart scene is their happiest time. i am tgth with you, there is no illness or disaster, no one to disturb us. we are just riding on an ox cart slowly, lying on the hay, chatting idly, then watching the sun slowly set. i think this is a very very happy & beautiful state"
he carried this guilt with him for 800 years.... he never expected he'd see xl again much less that xl would still want to see him much less to be forgiven and absolved of his guilt, just like that.... just with that simple smile and thank you.... and how much it hurts that his
so bc of the context behind this scene, i think he chose the ambiguous word "็/watch" to convey multiple meanings:
1)"ive always watched you" > "ive literally seen your worst moments, & love you anyway, unconditionally"
2)"ive always had my eye/attention on you, figuratively,
also the way mu qing instead reacted with another jab bc mq uses sarcasm and snide remarks as a defense mechanism to protect himself from having to feel or confront vulnerability.......
modern au xl would be a high-achieving gifted asian kid (who later burns out) who has stellar grades and is valedictorian and prefect/class chairperson and talented in everything and well-liked and kind to all the kids and also really loves and is talented at wushu
best friend is just the same as before and hasn't changed and in some ways it almost feels like nothing has changed except everything, has, changed.........................................
something i find fascinating about HC in the novel is how his emotions are often depicted very subtly. he's someone who doesn't like to openly show vulnerable emotions, disliking vulnerability (due to trauma). he often prefers to maintain a calm facade & hide his true emotions
thinking about how good fengqing's dynamic is and how well their personality contrasts play off each other.... sassy sarcastic mu qing teasing and riling up Angy and easily flustered feng xin..... mq who tries to be aloof and untouchable and wears sharp, acerbic words and +
cant stop thinking abt how fx did not at all have the knowledge the reader did that xl only pushed him away in bk 4 due to abandonment fears. from fx's pov, their friendship was already deteriorating, then xl finally told him to leave & slammed the door in his face. fx must have-
child who couldnt defend himself from abuse. he hates himself and judges himself very harshly for being "weak", blaming himself for his own trauma. he hates vulnerability for this same reason. the trauma of powerlessness shapes so much of hc's personality. his trauma response was
mq's feelings are much more complicated bc a part of him still resents xl, and that includes resenting xl for always being the one to smile and be cheerful and brush things off like as if everything that happened between them could just be brushed off so easily......
and ofc, hc has a very strong reaction to xl ever hurting himself or putting himself in harm's way, its the only time hc ever gets mad at xl๐ญ hc was so shaken when xl joked about getting stabbed to mush and hes very upset when xl tries to swallow swords etc
a lot of ppl seem to have interpreted that line to mean "i've been watching your every move". i agree that in eng, "have always watched you" makes us instinctively think of stalkers going "im watching your every move". however, lets look at the context in which HC first said this
itโs in ch 240, when XL is afraid HC will think differently of him aft finding out XL almost became the white clothed calamity. in order to reassure XL that HC will not only not leave XL bc of it, but to let XL know HC *has* in fact watched XL almost become the white clothed +
finally got a copy of the revised tgcf novels and skimmed book 4 and the fenglian friend breakup hurts so much more in the revised version...
fx's line abt "then why have i followed you all this time" is removed & instead xl says "i don't need you anymore, you should go."
to become the strongest possible, extremely wealthy & powerful so he can protect & provide for his beloved the way he never could when he was a human kid or a small ghost. he also wanted to be as strong as possible to escape his past and his "weak" child self that he despises
calamity, yet doesnt love XL any less, HC reveals that he was wuming, & has seen everything. so he says: "i have always watched you"
in chinese, the words used for โwatched youโ are โ ็็ไฝ โ. ็ is a word w many meanings & usages, eg โlook/see/watchโ, in a literal sense
bc you've always been the only person ive ever been romantically interested in."
3)"ive always watched over you, bc protecting you is my only dream/goal."
the 3rd meaning is a pun bc the chinese word for "see/watch", ็, has another meaning spelled the same way but pronounced+
the fact that he wore the cursed shackle for 800 years to remind himself to do penance... ruoye to remind himself his parents' lives were the cost of his mistakes (he thinks)... the bamboo hat as a reminder of that one stranger's kindness that was the only thing that saved him
he can change the world just bc heโs the prince, not bc he wants to condescendingly be a savior/martyr, but for no other reason than that he cares, that he feels empathy & wants to alleviate suffering. in fact sometimes he's one of the only characters who care enough to do smth
like fx doesn't even say anything about not following anymore and xl just straight away says:
XL: "You should go."
FX: "What?"
XL: "I said, I don't need you anymore, you should go."
it's much more obvious that fx only left bc xl literally dismissed him as an attendant๐ญ