Thread sul caso Woojin!!
Visto che c'è molta disinformazione nel fandom kpop italiano e che nessuno si è mai preso la briga (che io sappia) di sintatizzare e mettere su un thread affrontando tutti i rumors, ho deciso di farlo io
"if you want vocals go listen to REAL singers" pls stfu. Yall choose to support people that can't sing, you choose to not hold them to some standard bcuz "k-pop was never about vocals" when it has become like that because of YOU
kpop stans reaction to plave is so weird cuz yall will swear that you're into kpop for the music but then act as if plave success is strange just because you can't touch or see the people behind these avatars...
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these two comments perfectly summarize how I feel about jae lately (not the jamie situation, that shit speak for itself and should be not defended in any way). He needs to get off the internet and reflect on himself (and maybe take this as an opportunity to grow the f*k up)
"i miss woojin, i wish he was still in-" 🔫stfu and go support his solo career if you "miss" him that much, he's not dead nor retired no need to miss him when he's very much active
i'm not trying to hate on these girl but is this really good to yall?? sure i've heard worse i guess but this is very disappointing especially because they're one of the more famous groups that represent kpop worldwide
and some of y'all REALLY need to realize that false allegations are a thing and can potentially end lives, it's that serious. Taking sides has consequences and can cause real damage to both parties involved, which let's be real it's something that no one wants to take +
Next time someone asks you "why did he leave?" send them this and tell them it was the fandom that kicked him out. If they can create all these crazy narratives without absolutely 0 proof backing them up just to make woojin the villain he never was and will never be, then+
Atp i don't know what more
#they
want from woojin. He cleared himself from those allegations, he APOLOGIZED then and now for being "selfish" and doing what was best for him, he has moved on by doing his own thing and he's hurting no one. What more do you want from this man??
"MIXX POP, the genre popularized by NMIXX" and sm has been doing it for decades. no hate to these girls but it's already been popularized ages ago and not by them
2nd gen big groups aside, don't disrespect bap like that, they were THAT group, THE exo competitor and as both a baby and exotic those were some dark times, fun but also very dark
The only reason why EXO became ‘THE BOYGROUP’ during the early 3rd gen is because they were the only group to have no competition when they debuted in terms of resources and promotions.
the fact that almost 10k people follow and support @/wednesthai makes me sick to my stomach, she never publicly apologized for what she and her friends did nor acknowledged it. This is not just about woojin, this is about all the real sa victims that to this day still struggle+
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i don't care if i sound redundant, i'm so tired of kpop stans thinking that popularity is everything, that being popular means being better, that popularity is the end goal for all artists. Yes being an idol is a job, yes ppl do their jobs to get paid, yes money and fame are +
both chan and woojin want to be recognized for who they are since 2019: skz as an 8 members group and woojin as a solo artist. chan frustration is NOT shade or a hint of him hating woojin, it's been almost 4 years, he moved on, skz moved on, woojin moved on, yet the press and +
@steiffwoojin
@loonathetism
@taeilfeetsies
@qu0kkasung
@soobinpersona
Did you miss when Chan got upset that people still listed them as 9 recently. Did you miss when Chan would pull him off of other members or when he would move certain members away from him. Or their body language? Just bc they say things for the camera doesn’t mean it’s true.
kim woojin is THAT bitch, he gave us not only the best cover ever but also everything we wished for (lower register? check pop-rock music? check bad boy concept? check more duality? check)
i fear that i'll never recover from this 😭
#KIMWOOJIN
#김우진
#KICKBACK
#KenshiYonezu
random thought but do these ppl realize that by shaming woojin for performing in small venues they're also shaming all the other solos who performed, if not in the same, in very similar small venues during their overseas tour? Wonho, sunmi, eric nam, just to name a few+
le sserafim and most of hybe artists aren't bad singers they're just showing what actual raw vocals sound like and by that they end up exposing the rest of kpop industry who at best put a loud backtrack and scream thru it the entire performance or just keep lip syncing as usual🤷🏻♀️
I swear the hate woojin receives on a daily basis for the most innocuous and mundane things is unprecedented, not even literally convicted criminals get this much hate. Like have your ever seen someone receiving hate just for breathing the same air and sharing the same space +
I'm not speaking as a fan but rather as a human being. How can you sleep at night knowing that you're purposely instigating another hate train towards someone who has been going through hell for YEARS exactly because of this misinformation?? THIS is harassment, THIS is bullying.
why is it that it's always woojin who gets the short end of the stick??? if trolls and toxic stans say/do something stupid, it's woojin who gets hate. If he takes part in tik tok trends that someone else has previously done, he gets hate for being an "obsessed copycat". If he +
if your first reaction to this thread is "well, that's what idols go through" you should probably re-evaluate that high morality throne y'all sit on because this is not okay no matter how much you hate woojin and no matter how much the kpop industry convinced you- i mean, +
btw if i see anyone comparing this to woojin you'll get blocked, reported and i'll personally come to your house to smack some sense into you since you're parents failed to do that
Louder!!
Mental health is important until it's kim woojin we are talking about. Prioritizing yourself with your own needs and wishes is encouraged until it's kim woojin we are talking about. Recognizing that the path you're walking on is not the right one for you is admirable +
I can’t really articulate how much it hurts to see stays hate woojin for the crime of not prioritizing his coworkers temporary comfort over his own well-being. The amount of hatred they say comes from that reason is just cruel and it sucks.
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So i was bored af and i came across this dumb comment about how kpop male vocalists are all the same. Therefore, as the pressed and bored bitch that i am, i decided to make a list of all the male idols i consider to have the most unique voices in kpop.
so can i with their unbeknownst help. No one wants to be in a place where they feel unwelcomed and hated for being who they are, no one, and no matter how strong one might be there's always a breaking point. And his breaking point just uncovered the true color of the fandom.+
@Koreaboo
The fact that he's been doing whatever it's in his power to clear all the misunderstanding and lies surrounding his persona is heartbreaking but also very admiring. He shouldn't be struggling this much to pursue his dreams IN PEACE. I'm proud of him for saying all of this💙🧸
You don't want talent, you want pretty and handsome faces that can entertain you. The music? The talent? The real people behind the stage persona? They are just accessories, afterthoughts, if they're there then it's good, but if they aren't there then it's also good.+
Last but not least, this is not to discredit the supposed victims, it's to say that jumping to conclusions can be harmful which is a proven fact. And i'm here again to remind y'all that innocent until proven guilty is both a legal right and a HUMAN RIGHT.
ngl the power y'all antis give to woojin is kinda flattering and i kinda wish he was the villain you paint him as but also the bs and hypocritical elements within y'all statements is just too much. You now claim that it is woojin that was hindering their path to success but how +
this hurts but what hurts the most is that these words shouldn't even have had to leave his mouth, it should be common sense, it's should be basic decency and yet we live in a world where even basic human decency needs to be reminded and not only that but to his day there are +
warning: long ass rant, skip it if not interested
the ability of twt stans of pissing me off on a daily basis is kinda amazing ngl. I've said this with the lucas' case and i'm going to say it now that the garam's case is blowing up. LEAVE 👏WOOJIN👏 ALONE
yall can nitpick all you want, compare old live stages to studio versions and newer lives, you can cry about it while reaching to the heavens to "prove" that he was a bad/mid singer but it's not going to change the truth: kim woojin was, is and will always be a talented vocalist.
so @/kpophappenings_ deleted their tweet about woojin and i know i shouldn't be surprised or feel sad cause this happened before (way too many times if you ask me) but i can't help it. More than the hate replies that innocent and cute tweet got i am far more disappointed by
It's time to admit that some of y'all were never really in for the talent or the music, it was ALWAYS about the looks and likeability of the idols (somehow them being crackheads it's more valuable and important than them knowing how to do their job smh). Obviously, this+
responsibility for (yk all the bullying, dts, and the stigmatization that false allegations come with and which ppl take part in because it's "always believe the victim first" even though we don't know who the real victim is). And to the people saying "it's not that deep, once +
deep. Btw there are a lot of studies on this issue which those who do not believe that being a victim of false allegations is that serious should read, here is one of the most recent case studies and very on point regarding the most common consequences:
sorry, i can't hear y'all over the sound of woojin amazing vocals but keep on barking pls it's free promo for us!
And congrats u.s cubs you get to see this awesomeness live 🔥💙
#CUBS
, Woojin is coming the US this November and stopping by 6 cities to meet you for the first time! 🇺🇸
More info coming soon! 🔎
#Woojin
#우진
#KimWoojin
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kind of attitude is nothing new to the kpop fandom, the concept of unpopular member(s) always existed and i've seen every bit of the consequences these preferences caused. However, it's the scale that y'all are acting like this towards woojin that makes it unprecedented and just+
plain disgusting. Flaunting around the fact that you are just a superficial prick that has no respect for others is not it and i hope that growing up you get to realize that and have some sort of character development because if that's who you really are and who you're going to+
proven innocent they will go back to their daily life" tell that to the families and friends who lost someone dear to them over false allegations, tell that the ones who decided to end their lives because they couldn't overcome the trauma or the ones who are still here with us +
First of all, why are you acting as if woojin himself edited and posted the trailer lmao and second, atp i'm starting to think that yall never watched a documentary in your life cause using pictures, videos, or other sources to provide a factual report of a particular event is +
about the serious mental and very much real repercussions that being falsely accused of a crime entail. It's much deeper than what yall ms/mr "i prefer to believe a potential liar than a potential abuser" think it is, falsely accusing someone is a crime and it is that +
be for the rest of your life then all i can say is i feel sorry for your friends (since you have no problems pretending to like someone just for the sake of it) and for everyone surrounding you. The reality is that woojin was never enough, not handsome enough, not funny enough,+
not relatable enough for your stupid compilations, and you've made him feel that way every single day, just not enough no matter how much he tried, and i know that you think that you were so lowkey and hid it well but i can assure y'all that you, in fact, did not and that he+
Isn't this just the consequence of being surrounded by yes-men and having fans that constantly praise you for just breathing? This ego thing is VERY common in the showbiz, they're not the first nor the last artists that are going to have a rude awakening and grow from that
and struggle with dealing with the very much REAL consequences that the false accusation had on their everyday life. It's not just about the career of these idols (sure it's unfair to lose something you have been working so hard for over someone's sick joke), it's more +
i know that this is just a small thing and for most it's not that big of a deal but i'm so glad that woojin has someone in this industry who is openly on his side, it warms my heart ❤️
-Daesung (big bang)
He is what i call the dark horse of yg vocalists, not just because he's underrated af but also because his darker and rich tone literally reminds me of a dark horse, if that makes sense lol
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felt every bit of your insincerity and dislike for him. And now you have the guts to even ask why he left, you have the guts to feign sadness for him, to say that HE hurt the members and the fans when i can assure you that the emotional and physical pain you've caused him+
"photographic proof"? do you mean the picture that those fake victims took from a random korean insta as their evidence? or do you mean when your fandom spread the whole "he frequented bars with hostesses/prostitutes" bs and cropped a picture of him leaving the concert of his +
there’s literal photographic proof of woojin breaking jype rules do not put his name next to these people they are not freaks like him and chaeyoung are
regardless of what y'all think about jae, this is a matter between them, and no one should feel entitled to have a say in it, she's a grown woman and most importantly she knows the irl him so stop making her feel like shit just because she did not act like y'all wanted her to.
Jae came by the other day we had a talk he apologized for his words and mistake.If anyone knows about Jae as a friend or close person you would know he wasn't meaning that as what he said. He promised me he would use his words wisely and I appreciate it. Out of all the mistakes
before and after his departure is much worse. You didn't like him when he was part of the group for whatever reason? That's fair, you can't like everyone, and last time i checked it's within your right to not like someone, i myself do not vibe with some of the members of the+
The qrts are full of red flags, from the shk stans bashing him for just existing, the kpop stans focusing on his wife/baby race (yes she's white, move on!), the ones who thought they had a chance, or believe they know him better and advise him to think it through... I-
@frierenhimmel
Naw let's not act dumb no one was complaining about holo they were just dragging plave out of their own ignorance talking about pre-recorded stages and all when it wasn't clearly the case. There were REAL people who performed live behind the avatars and interacted with the fans..
"yall can never make me like him" no one is asking you to???? that's on you if you want to accept or not his apologies BUT y'all really need to stop lying on his name it's getting weird
now this i didn't see it but it just reinforces my thoughts on this whole situation: absolutely zero consideration was given to the person he called brother. I seriously don't want to doubt the intent behind these messages cause i always give the benefit of the doubt but bro +