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𝐇𝐈𝐒𝐓𝐎𝐑𝐘 𝐌𝐀𝐊𝐄𝐑 𝐏𝐀𝐑𝐊 𝐉𝐈𝐌𝐈𝐍 🐥 ❥ #bangtan 🍂 fan account

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@nitajmn
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6 months
It's 12 AM here! Celebrating the first anniversary of Jimin's record breaking debut album FACE!🥳 Thank you Jimin for your beautiful gift 💕 Our forever artist. 💛 #1YearWithLikeCrazy #1YearWithFACE PROUD OF FACE BY JIMIN
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I honestly feel bad for JK sometimes His fans don't love him all.. not a single "Ill miss you" in sight Here pjms and kths are miserable and look at them... They will never trend something like this for JK
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@Jiminreport_
Report for Jimin
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The first tweet of this obsessed person after news about enlistment being about other members and calling 🐥 animal names just proves how obsessed he is. Please report and block this account again. 📌
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@barbieluvsjimin Did u see this omg they're so predictable 🤣🤣 now it's a gift song
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I'm an army but Jungkooks dancing has been really stiff and uncoordinated lately. I'm just stating facts. Also he compromised BTS morals by working with Zionists, using payola and remixes. He should be called out for forever tarnishing BTS organic success.
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@ljadees Umm I'm an army but jimins vocals have been kind of off lately, there are far better vocalists than him
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@jmnpromise I already started few days back 😄
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Armys need to stop blaming Jimin for the fandom not doing as well for other members. Jimin is carried by his solos and y'all need to admit that.
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Choked up over this ? 💀
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Sam Levinson is so choked up he can barely speak after the premiere of “The Idol” at Cannes
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@pjmstolemyheart See this..let's not give up 🔥💪🏻
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@itboyisrn This too lmao they're really trying 💀 Also Hybe stock went up the least today - JYP was the biggest gainer thanks to twice and all entertainment companies went up. He made less noise than tank twice 🤣
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@lovelettaers Man y'all are obsessed
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@meltingpoint28 U wanna be do x x ed next?
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The only one speaking the truth Say it louder 💯
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@chartmastersorg
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@ARMYonSpot Hi @ARMYonSpot ! The difference indeed comes from the fact that the article focuses on lead streams. There, BTS went from 30,704,378,493 at the start of the year to 36,629,369,576 at the end of it. Their featured streams went from 355,787,777 to 718,368,437, explaining the
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@zoromins Did u check the quotes?? It's not about what your intentions were. Why did u set him up when you know the way antis love to twist words.. loser
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@ethann0901 @chartdata @TXT_members @JYPETWICE @pledis_17 @BTS_twt @Stray_Kids @NCTsmtown_127 @ATEEZofficial @ENHYPEN_members My guys this obsessed freak is under every possible chart tweet saying this stuff jus to get attention Im begging y'all to jus block him so we can't seem his comments anymore 🤦😭
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😅😅 where is Dreamers on Hot100 baby ?
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@badsideofmeow Donating to children's education will never be a drag. You all have officially lost the plot.. goodbye
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@km_58137 @eunbbong13 Probably on the phone with someone. Heres the full translation 🤭
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@7BerryGloss Disappointed how most armys don't even know the original achievement post about JM bt always here for drama. At least share the post and congratulate him if y'all wanna take credit. JM deserves better than this
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@leftpjm3 @Kashkashi07 @nisaaaaBTS Even you don't believe..we were literally mass tagging Hybe and BH everyday since Muse was announced for the most basic tools. Stop pretending
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@bluejinii @indeevine Who do flop stans always have the most to say lol y'all want to get Jin dragged atp
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@AfroQueenieX Not a single like be crazy Follow our Lord and Savior Jimin for some guidance
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@annlovesmyg Are u deaf and blind coz how do u nt know the sabotage JM gng thru with BB .. trust me he's no favorite. And stop blaming JM for everything
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@dior_miimi Oh they're scrambling 😭 Also shes apparently jm biased y'all who would have known 🤣
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@Bibliophiliabe1 Not BTS success but JK's is fraud yes. Hes #6 on TTH, has got playlisting and ads and VERSIONS ARE BEING COMBINED unlike other members. Unlike BTS always winning against the industry hes playing with the industry and u gotta be lying to yourself if u think its organic
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@highoncaffene Lmao jk solos pretending to care for Yg don't make me laugh 😂
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Its not his fault but this means the terms army hate the most and fight against .. the name "Inorganic" "Nepo" "Payola baby" and "industry plant" will forever be attached to JK's name Same as Olivia Sad
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@BTSis7even @1027kj103 @921thebeat @BTS_twt Yep. It's being serviced to radio immediately upon release and will be a pop radio single with them going for adds immediately.👏
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Jk solos celebrating this as organic knowing it's coz of white man charlie payola and BTS monthly listeners 😭 y'all so insecure for what Love that Jimin did it on his own 👑💖
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@fairytaek0o @dailyjimn Lmao the audacity to say these while those members in pfp
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@iktenkpadet Also this 💀 flower had lost but they put it in the poll
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@snowducktan idk if this attitude is gonna help us tho I know we dont like his demands and its frustrating bt we need to do our best for Jimin anyway.. 😭
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@kawaii_googie Gurl stop pretending and jus come out as a solo already 🤣
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@hecticday_ And where is this energy for Muri?? Who starts the mess everytime
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@nickiminer @goldenjinkoo @hitmakerkoook1 Omg I jus realized so many vile jjks follow them look at this ??
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I just witnessed a murder 😭
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@charts_k
BTS Charts & Translations
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j-hope on Weverse I love you ARMY 🫡💜 I’ll go and come back well!
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@koreafrontman
ִֶָ࣪☾.
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300 points without payola omg jimin you'll always be the king, doing so organically too
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@taesoothe Good ...more media coverage is needed to expose this disrespect
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@leftpjm3 @Kashkashi07 @nisaaaaBTS You don't know because u never bother tagging the company. If you did you would know the tools we were missing - bare minimum pre-orders which everyone got but Jimin. All you do is expose yourself as JM anti so I would stop lol Jus Stan JK in peace and stop this ot7 pretence pls
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@minieskies Same.. today I finally removed the 7 from my dn. I cant do this anymore. That fandom is a bunch of hypocrites
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@tsthoughtsx He needs to learn some humility from Jimin
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@CHAESlTES @ssyorai This is the twt that got them dragged are we supposed to tolerate it ?
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Lmaoooo @fakelovesotd I know u crying ryt now 😭😭
@1013toJIMIN
내내어여쁘소서toJIMIN🐥🪖MUSE💛🩵
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OMG . . Their fav is not even the second place. (Even 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, ... either) By this it turned out that JJKs is liar. I think they can’t do fan activity unless with a lie. Why do they deny their fav's true appearance? I'm very tired.
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@justaprlvacc I'm closer n closer to becoming one entirely..
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@zoromins You sure it has nothing to do with the fact that you're a trashkook shipper?
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@JIMIN__FACE Speak your truth Diddy
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@attorney4koo @arsonology @luvingyuchan They said armys were scared but look at them now lol
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@minieskies They're scrambling 😭😭 not them getting called dumbass by their own breed lmao
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@taesoothe This makes me nostalgic 🥹 Jm is the "Next BTS"
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@goldenjinkoo @JiminFunds Why are you tweeting this when Jimins Christmas release coming out tonight?? Arent u jk akgae as well
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@protectjimin13 Also this ...it's so obvious why they do this
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@young__JK Why are u so obsessed with JM to even stalk his fan accounts my god get a life 😭
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@TanniesBestFrnd @tksovers This is a recomeback organized by all JM fanbases Not everything is related to solos ffs
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@btsdeblueprint @lovejimin_jk_v They're officially antis now
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@theastrojin @Koobidivines Army and JM biased fbs together
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@Bangtan7_Stream @BTS_twt It's actually the highlight entry ever for a k-soloist since Psy!!
@JiminUK_FB
Jimin UK 🇬🇧
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Jimin's 'Who' debuts at #1 on this weeks UK Big Top 40 🇬🇧 with only 2 days of tracking 🔥 Jimin is the only korean soloist to debut at #1 since Psy with 'Gangnam Style' in 2012
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@barbztannies Only trashkookers and JK diet solos defending kooksadmirer tells me all I need to know I fear ...
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@MusicliftUrSoul @henjiku1975 Lol you've been lying and pretending to be a local for a long time loser akgae
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So this was Jungkook even before his solo era🥺
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@LKhalieq @jiminmoney No it dint lmao even with a white man Collab it couldn't No wonder @mostsuccessfuI is crying 😭
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Pjms report this tweet under "sexualization of minors" Easy to get them s worded
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@coldbeverages12 Say it louder 🗣️🗣️ This is the company and their effed up vendetta against jm coz twice??? They're doing this..
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@premanbighit @talkofthecharts @Latto @MorganWallen No Dynamite was not fraudulent like seven
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@jminvibez @minieskies Srsly solo albums really exposing the members faces They all seemed so nice as a group bt put them in the spotlight individually and the ugly colors start to show.
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@JJKBTS14 I don't understand why you're refusing to just delete the tweet when even armys are asking you in the comments ?? It's getting the boys dragged ..do you jus not care?
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@richbrianluvr @zoromins Have you reported the hate twt by elsedonda freak thanks to this person setting him up?? If not u have no right to speak
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@laintrepida It's not related to Festa tho 😭😭
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JIMIN STREAMING
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Also the supposedly theories on this project being a planned purposed to "ruin festa celebration", some of you should be desi tv soap screenwriters at this rate of dramatizing, because why was " Falling streams and getting out of global Spotify" was not valid reason enough💀💀😭
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@jmprettiest @JiminFunds Delete this... You're embarrassing yourself
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@linh_chiiii @premanbighit @talkofthecharts @Latto @MorganWallen Dynamite did not have as much radioplay or versions. Or TTH top 5. So no Dynamite was a true success while Seven was pushed thanks to Scooter payola
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@JikookxYoonmin_ Not even one LC ...sigh There's a reason shippers are called JM antis
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@toof_twt Wait I also remember when serendipity broke all YouTube records without anyone planning for it.. suddenly they had to do it for singularity as well when it released 😭
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@jeonblxe @btschartmaster Seems like daddy scooter cheque did not go through 🤣
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@DeadlyKootamin @corneil_ri Idk if you're actually this dumb or pretending to be ...
why blinks wanna team up with Jennie’s antis and even willingly wanna set up rosé? they agreed to follow imene even after they admitted to have dragged BP in the past. they’re calling him fraudkook btw @jeonprotector
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@JpopReviews So are you thoughts on seven still same ? Asking for the jjk in likes
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@ZIBA_7777 We need to focus on Angel this week though 😖 Can we do for this next week 💀
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@minieskies Jus realized kths always move like exols and jjks move like blonks lol
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@BTSOT7Jiminie Can I jus say I'm loving the jikookrs energy on tl today ...finally y'all jus squeezing over jikook as we should 24/7 instead of bringing attention to bitter trolls and toxic tkkrs.pls keep this gng
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@KeyToMagicShop It's not related to Festa tho?? JM fanbase made it coz we are close to losing our spot to tht BP girl..is that what u want 💀💀
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@FACE_Mimi13 Welcome 🫂 a lot of us experienced the same exact journey as you.. and have taken similar decisions in the past year (myself included) 💛💛 Dont let anyone tell u otherwise bt you are joining a beautiful dedicated and one of the strongest fandoms 🔥
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@nitajmn
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@LillyShrey No Hot100 #1 or a billion. No opinion
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@nitajmn
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@Salmin1013 The way kths will never call their husband fandom out for this but wait till LC increases and the raging begins 😒
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@nitajmn
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@soloistjimi13 Isn't it funny they never call out their husband fandom when they're literally doing this 😭
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@nitajmn
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@zoromins Why did u wait until the twt crossed 10k likes then And when armys were begging u to delete... Who needs antis when fandom has ppl like u. Your brain has rotted from ship content. Goodbye
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@nitajmn
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@alleycatjimi Don't bother victimizing him anymore. He's getting versions as well ☠️
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@nitajmn
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@suguhhgood Y’all are not even hiding it at this point, who is literally gaining 10M daily. Who said anything about dropping Tae when we can push both songs? It happened last year with seven and Lc and at the end seven got it because it was gaining more streams🧍🏻‍♀️
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@nitajmn
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@bangtanvitamins @facebypjm You mean Jungkook ? Yes it's disgusting
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@nitajmn
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@arcanus_3 The way back in 2020 there used to be hit tweets about armys crying over LGO getting 6 spins in total (we all know that twt) And now they don't even bat an eye while SNTY has 7M radio right now lol
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@nitajmn
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@JINClTY You're a loser lmao All this because like crazy got the most votes ?? 🤣
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@nitajmn
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@nitajmn
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@UKBTSARMATION Omygod this is great news!! Who is is a hit in UK ! 🔥🔥
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@nitajmn
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@jm__anpanman We did so well consider we got absolutely zero tools. Imagine what we can do for pjm2 with a lil support 😭🔥
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@nitajmn
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@henjiku1975 Imagine being called dumb by your own breed lol
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@nitajmn
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@JNKITACE I'll say it. Thank you for exposing this btch coz shes a vile jm and BTS anti too. U dont have to like BTS bt I have nothing against Jennie. I actually like her with Tae. And I will stand with u against every tkkr who shits on Jennie the same way I stood up against them for jm.
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@nitajmn
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@ijbolgigi @FatherofkpopJM @pjmslayed @notforpharita Victim card declined. tell your moots to stop setting up those girls by constantly talking on jm
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@nitajmn
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@jaydenlovetaysf That's not jm and also it was Tae and Jungkook who were caught working and promoting Zionists. So leave Jimin out of this
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