OK. I’ve looked through this and feel like something should be said. First, I want to say I love
@Mob_Hwan
’s art style, but the same cannot be said about her attitude/ personality.
This artist admitted copying me, showed remorse, and promised to find their own style. They even apologized and drew my OC. But people still confuse me with them, and I have to keep hearing reports about this copycat artist despite being busy lmao
@MoB_Hwan
@PigeonGod5
Since the two artists had discussed and reached an agreement in DMs peacefully like adults, why air out dirty laundry like this for everyone to see? To harass Pigeon?
@MoB_Hwan
@PigeonGod5
How are starting artists supposed to start and grow if bigger artists don't give them room to breathe and grow? Art students are literally taught to copy master artists. Is that wrong?
@MoB_Hwan
@PigeonGod5
@Mob_Hwan
, can’t people grow? Will you not allow growth for people? Or is that particular pose copyrighted? Just so you know, there is NO such this as art style theft. A good video about this
@MoB_Hwan
@PigeonGod5
Many, and I mean MANY artists grow whilst copying from other people’s art style. For example, Sakimi chan has a LOT of people having the same art style as her. Did she drag those people down? No, she didn’t.
OK. I’ve looked through this and feel like something should be said. First, I want to say I love
@Mob_Hwan
’s art style, but the same cannot be said about her attitude/ personality.
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hello!! i would like to come out and say that I deleted my recent art of wrlt because I came to the realization that it was very strikingly similar to another artist’s art style. I have found that I have unintentionally started adopting this person’s art style very
@MoB_Hwan
@PigeonGod5
@Mob_Hwan
, please show me just one proof of Pigeon tracing you after April. Just one will do. Since the one you have shown via QRT isn’t tracing.
@kvthmishere
@MoB_Hwan
@PigeonGod5
so... only Hwan can use this pose? What do you mean by heavily referencing?? I see this pose in sooo many interest posts. This is practically a meme.
@PigeonGod5
Hey, I'm sorry, I know u dont want fights, but this is something that has to be said, as this will set a bad precedent whereby bigger artists can just 'call out' smaller artists willy nilly just for 'art style' that could not even be copyrighted as it is too vague
@MoB_Hwan
@PigeonGod5
If you want to get anal about things, aren’t you yourself copying from Hoyoverse? Alhaitham, Zhongli etc are not your OCs, so y are you drawing them?
@MoB_Hwan
@PigeonGod5
But to literally block others from giving passwords in comments? Really? I don’t get the reasoning behind this. Is it to gatekeep your art? This is rather childish.
@MoB_Hwan
@PigeonGod5
Also, as a side note, I dislike how Hwan loves adding passwords to lock others out of her art. Last time, it was math, n recently it’s Japan yaoi culture. Of course, it’s her art, she can do whatever.
@MoB_Hwan
@PigeonGod5
As seen from this tweet(), the two artists had discussed tracing/art style copying all the way back in April. So, I have to qns why
@Mob_Hwan
has to bring this up now?
All in all, my point is that artists should not 'gate keep' their art style. it isn't enforceable in court and just limits how much newbie artists can learn. I'll stop replying individually to those that keep saying about art style theft
And the young artists develop their own style as theiy series getting more fame and such. Picasso was deeply influenced by Cezanne. Picasso early work all seems so alike Cezanne until Picasso decide to move on to his dadaism.
#Genshin
Artist beware pt2 (Please see pt 1 via retweet below):
@ResonantZine
takes nearly a year to email digital PDFs. I asked for a reason, but they refused, saying that mods and contributors want the PDFs emailed after physical shipping is done. 1/??
#GenshinImpact
Artists Beware!
ResonantZine’s mods are proven to be inefficient and unprofessional in the handling/shipment of the zine, especially the digital zine.(1/8)
#zhongli
#childe
@iluvecstasy
@lemon0488650488
To be honest, you don't even have to delete any of them since you had never traced their art. you can see from my profile that Hwan had harrassed an artist off of twitter once too, using the same tactic
@SH1NZ0U
@MoB_Hwan
HUH?!?! when u change stuff, that is NOT tracing anymore, and on a closer look, even the muscle structure is different. its basically copying a pose, which is fine! poses cant be copyrighted!
@towotl2
@mirimimicVT
i agree! but then why did Hwan make it out into the public? that's the problem i have. even though its all settled in DMs, she still dragged Pigeon out
#GenshinImpact
Artists Beware!
ResonantZine’s mods are proven to be inefficient and unprofessional in the handling/shipment of the zine, especially the digital zine.(1/8)
#zhongli
#childe
@MoB_Hwan
@PigeonGod5
Just to elaborate, the thickness of arms, arms position, hand positions, face structure are not the same at all, i tried my best but i couldn't align them
@rahawol
@MoB_Hwan
I've cleared my twitter bc of Elon, and I HAVE to make a stand as this is just a bigger artist bullying a smaller artist into deleting her art. I don't want the art community to be a toxic environment for younger/ smaller artists
@SH1NZ0U
@MoB_Hwan
omg hahahah as i said before, poses. cant. be. copyrighted. Plus, its totally different character, which is basically under fair use
I find it mean of Hwan to drag Pigeon down just for 'art style copying'. Since I've seen no evidence of tracing, I believe Pigeon was kind of intimidated to say she has 'traced' even though it was just referencing
@MoB_Hwan
of course u r not interested. u hv successfully bullied her off the platform. its fine, i do have her art. go on n tell me where did she traced. you QRT the chili v haikaveh one. so u must be sure that its traced.
Also,they promised a refund and still,no refunds got transferred to my friend’s account even though 2 weeks has passed. Keep in mind that we have not requested a refund and that they have promised us the refund instead of offering a refund(which will need approval to proceed).6/?
@endless_trap
??? I know she doesnt want fight but i continued coz it sets a bad precedent whereby bigger artists can just 'call out' smaller artists willy nilly just for 'art style' that could not even be copyrighted as it is too vague
I asked for reasons about the delay, but they refused to give one and instead just promised a refund which never came even after 2 weeks.
Only after nearly a year did ResonantZine deliver the NSFW version of the PDF zine, showing their inefficiency. 2/??
@cecilaila
sigh... as. i. said. art style can not be copyrighted. Heck, i would even say Hwan's was just a derivative of official genshin artstyle. so she should be crucified for that?
As seen from the image attached,they refused to explain even though it is a legitimate concern.I do not get why not even a single reason could be given just because mods and contributors advised not to. It seems very suspicious of them to adamantly refuse to give a reason. 3/??
Art history wise all famous artists all once "stole" the art of their predecessors. In the manga world LITERALLY dragon ball art style was the standard for a period of time. Did Akira Toriyama care? Never, and in fact he feels honored to have inspired someone to pick up the pen.
@MoB_Hwan
sure 💋💋 but FR tho, y even post that? plus, please explain how did Pigeon 'traced' you (coerced confession in the DMs doesn't count, provide pics), why referencing is somehow bad, and y u have to put her on blast even tho u settled via DMs
If a customer asks why there's shipment delays,isn’t the first response of any seller to be giving an appropriate answer instead of straight up shoving a refund offer?And also,once again,I’d like to highlight that they just have to email the PDFs since that’s the items bought.4/?
I suspect that this refund is hush money to stop me from tweeting, but I’d give the benefit of the doubt and see it as compensation for the lack of answers.Still, they claimed that only a few business days were needed for the refund to go through, yet no refund is received 7/?
@orz_chidd
What i want is for Hwan to acknowledge that art style CANNOT be copied. Referencing is fine. and apologise to Pigeon for telling her to delete her art
@dutchils
@mirimimicVT
@kvthmishere
@MoB_Hwan
@PigeonGod5
1. and they dont line up. it's not traced.
2. altered? the whole thing couldn't be lined up. go on, go line them up n tell me its traced.
3. copying expressions are FINE. there's even an art meme of expressions! so is that bad too?
@KichKujo
@MoB_Hwan
@PigeonGod5
First,this is a side note.Nth to do with previous tweets. Second, just like she has the right to lock her art,I have the right to dislike it since I see no purpose in locking art under math problems(which an underage can easily solve) or jp yaoi culture(new yaoi lovers won’t know
@MoB_Hwan
has she not apologised previously? Y are u being so adamant that she apologise again? for copying your art style? Art style isn't copyright-able. If it's for tracing, please provide proof that she traced after the April DMs
@aluo1234
Omg can u pls write properly i cant understand u... how does it 'disturb Hwan's rights?' as i said a lot of times, art style can not be copied
@Efuaka
Ok, may I know if that particular art was posted before the Apr DMs? If it is posted before, she has already apologised for it, so why does Hwan have to drag her down now?
@Rets16
its basically coerced confession. Pigeon is a fan of Hwan, of coz she will say things to please her. Please provide proof of tracing then. as for heavy ref:
@orz_chidd
bruh.... Pigeon doesnt even type well in eng... she might not know the eng difference between trace v. copy. no its not coz of ship. i dun get y u just have to talk about ship, its unrelated.
Is it unreasonable of me to find them suspicious for hiding reasons? The reason I voice out is to let any customers, present or potential ones since the head mod has other zines under them, know about the shadiness of this whole transaction. 11/?