it’s real simple. if jm is not in an “ot7” fanbase’s top artists, they aren’t ot7. the reason I say this is jm’s releases started in January. Statistically, if they didn’t drop him entirely, there would be no reason th or jk should’ve jumped him or bts or yg in stats
hhhhh well that’s the most positive spin on an artist having no interest in his solo career and being given a whole album reluctantly so an American man can call the shots for how a company spends its resources ive ever seen
these people will say anything to defend anything now
@justaprlvacc
it’s actually even funnier bc a potential reason jk might not have been in the top 10 is if you’ve had plastic surgery on your nose you can’t do the chemical training so jjks either have to admit jm is better at all the training or have to admit jk has a nose job (after denying)
combining them the day before the SBowl so they get to artificially inflate jks numbers through the increased traffic to ushers profile and army will look the other way as usual even though piggybacking on western artists’ platforms is supposed to be antithetical to bts’ morals
@thirteendoll
this clip is frustrating bc he’s correct and the pushback is immediate they’re like “are you sure?” “did we?” “i don’t think so” and then they get the choreographer involved or they watch the tape and he was right it would save them hella time to listen to him even just sometimes
jk had two weeks of itunes preorders and two restocks of the physical mid-week as well as official chart accounts giving exact numbers to work towards and a new remix every day and that’s before we even get into the ad push or visualizers I think maybe YOU should stop comparing
ot7 is a myth so you shouldn’t feel any guilt for only streaming the releases you like; fanbases with tens of thousands of followers or hundreds of thousands of followers certainly don’t
a whole fandom full of hypocrites. you might not like solos but at least they’re honest
this is probably pretty trivial to most ppl but at a concert they had those air guns that blasted smoke and i watched the members absolutely terrorize jm with them like blasting him until he was curled on the ground and not stopping and i felt icky like it wasn’t a fun silly joke
well and also they pick people whose style matches the brand’s image or someone whose face/vibe match what they’re going for you can see it with all the brand choices these guys made so at some point they gotta square with the fact that jm has a luxury house face vibe and style
yg has a lot of tracks on d day, so if an ot7 is streaming honestly their top artists should go jm, yg, bts, jk, th
we could expect maybe to see jk leapfrog everyone bc of remixes and versions but if th is up there past jm or bts or even yg that’s a focus fanbase or anti not ot7
but we all know what happened. in April 60% of army removed jm from their playlists except for lc, they boycotted vibe and Angel and in July they removed like crazy
my thing is i don’t like how patronizing this fandom is about the insistence that all members get the same treatment while ignoring the members getting blatantly different treatment and privately only supporting their fave like just be honest you’re so annoying when you pretend
lmao okay so then what do we call the boys who don’t donate at all? even if this were true,,,which it isn’t really,,,those funds still go towards a good cause instead of another chair shaped like a butt in an ugly apartment
face is a Korean album, his English version wasn’t serviced to radio, and his “US promotion” was an appearance on fallon
you’re comparing two wildly different promos jm just has a very active strong base of fans in the US
if army wants to know why there’s suddenly so many pjms this is the answer like 50k followers are getting told lies stop lying to us and rewriting history and you might be allowed to breathe but y’all can’t admit there’s something fucked is going on with jm bc you’re a cult
i wonder if they think at some point if they just ignore jm and don’t give him a platform or performances or support that we will give up on him,,,this company doesn’t know what they’ve created with pjms
this is some crazy shit to say when a glance at your account shows you arguing with pjms all day today and then scroll down and it’s your little daily updates and rts of content so uhhhhhh what other solos you been fighting lately bc you got hours for us and nothing for others
have you maybe sat and thought we’re not fucking superman? and have you thought that maybe if you want to defend him don’t come for armys? and have you ever thought maybe we’re already in other member solo qrts? like you just sound dumb
these fights are so stupid because it really boils down to whatever jm gets someone else wants it for their fave and so they take it as an excuse to be really nasty about it and insulting to jm and it’s incredibly lame and circular and we should all get back to streaming
now i know for sure jjks are new to the “my fave is androgynous” game bc how do you not know it’s a meme we’ve been using for ages
i did wonder when the shift from “MY fave is a MAN the MANLIEST EVER MAN” to “jk gender ✌️” happened
@thirteendoll
i mean i relate to him bc no way you’re making me look bad bc you can’t get this; a lot of the things he pointed out directly impact his ability to move through the formations or do the choreo full out so you bet id be in that persons ear but the dismissiveness is infuriating
and this isn’t shade to jk and ck bc i think they match this sort of casual streetwear vibe he’s been living in forever so it really comes down to the egos of jjks not being able to accept that the luxury houses aren’t a great fit for someone who has thirty identical black shirts
if only jm antis with 50k plus followers and chart accounts who don’t update on his music and “armies” who leave him out of their playlists and only see him as a flirt and a cheerleader pissed you off this much
…then some other members had MONTHS of promo time based off of this math like,,,multiple months idk how much this is helping your “everything is fine there is no war in ba sing se” party line
you are ridiculous
putting aside that you brought up jm randomly on a reply abt rm if i went back through the years and pinpointed the member who has consistently rooted for your fave and supported him and showed up for him the most it would be jm and it’s not close
@diorstear
I’ve been saying this too ever since we won against lwy they know not to put him up for it if it’s voted by fans bc we will spoil the agenda
real talk tho what’s with the pig stuff like why do you all use that…is it because you can’t think of anything else? like it’s just weird it’s like you’re all a hive mind of corny drags
@azkenalva
@barbieluvsjimin
it also becomes obvious in hindsight how often the choreo was designed to preserve JK’s stamina, how during his center parts the moves would calm down a bit or he’d pull out of the choreo entirely but then look over there and jm is singing while sprinting and doing crazy footwork
@Bachelorhaters
imagine writing analysis about a song bro didn’t even write just to have an excuse to talk about pjms why is everyone obsessed with us 😭
this is so frustrating bc we were THERE we all saw how fucked it was and how face and lc were sabotaged and abandoned and then an army acct with tens of thousands of followers flounces in here and tries to lie to our faces about what happened and then calls us the crazy ones
According to
@taesoothe
today's top hits playlisting within minutes of release and being pushed up to top 10 in the same week is the same as like crazy eng vers getting
#20
position AFTER tracking week after it had hit
#1
on Spotify and h100
#1
was already expected
other solos complain about members being popular in different countries and pjms complain about websites having a “glitch” that deleted 700k sales and platforms adding an english song to a kpop playlist while leaving off lc that’s been
#1
for weeks and army calls only us evil
There’s no shame in admitting that like every member having countries where they are more popular, US and LATAM are Jimin’s playground that’s why his songs easily chart on pandora, deezer US and spotify US without any promo or playlisting. He got rich hardworking fans there.
@jiminmochipower
i actually think he’s been pretty good (in comparison to others) for the last few years but I can never forget that interview where it came out that he and jm met and then he basically gave jm the could shoulder for months and months bc he didn’t think they needed another dancer
that coupled with the UN speech made me think the members were complicit to some degree, that where i thought it was just the company before maybe there was this other component even among the members and that’s really only been reinforced by their behavior in chp 2
if you’re an actual jm fan, people pointing out where bad things happened to his work wouldn’t make you this defense or feel like you needed to immediately pipe up to downplay it
so since you’re not his fan how about changing that handle
this is really gd weird why are you pushing so hard to not even win? like it’s not even possible to win you just…need to beat jm for second place? for what? jm antis are so weird
I remember when you all were harping on them cuz he was working his @$$ off just to get the MVs he did have done in time. And no yoongi did not say they give I finite amounts of cash, you doughheads, you get a budget. That is standard. SMFP2 was extremely sophisticated.
company releasing remixes during the preorder, fandom having recomebacks during his release weeks, putting that song x120 versus 20 each for th’s songs in a playlist:
kths: pjms are so vile. they’re the reason we’re unhappy
i can’t imagine you would see people being happy abt a hl song losing streams the way ppl are here. it’s messed up fr how they think of jm as a rival artist atp
and you can say those are solos all you want we saw the big accts crying when it was the other way around
@jiminmochipower
he really didn’t want jm to tell that story and I was like ah. mhm. he was part of the reason jm felt like he had no friends at the very least and I can acknowledge that people grow and change but I always watch them closely
@azkenalva
@barbieluvsjimin
so when he has to carry a whole choreo and dance break and physical demanding song it’s suddenly a totally different experience like I was genuinely shocked by the amount of time he spent strolling around the stage in his solo choreos but I realize now it’s always been that way
didn’t your dude rattle off like five iconic jm stages when he had him on his show? like he literally asked jm what his favorite was and said “you have so many” so if you’re having a hard time finding them ask your fave djjdhdhdhdh y’all are such deeply unserious haters
what are you talking abt hehdhdhdhdh his album has 4 versions, he’s doing music shows and interviews, sh parties, he’s had decent playlisting he had weeks of preorder and weeks between prerelease and the album coming out he’s right on par with the promo others have had come tf on
dragging jm into this from literally NOWHERE and then making up a fairytale in the thread how do we even fight against this? edits and lies and even using OTHER PEOPLES behavior in order to blame him for something actual insanity
yeah this is basically the copy paste format for jm antis at this point so forgive me if i don’t take your bleating about how we’re the worst solos out of all the solos seriously
if im being so fr if I was a jk stan i wouldn’t have a solo acct because who do i need to fight when the company does this? how would I victimize this?
i think abt this constantly like mans rocked up in that booth and finessed a bridge and impressed everyone in the room and then saw himself out he’s actually insane
your fav is on live begging you to pay attention to him and you’re here writing love letters to the fans of someone else wbk y’all don’t know what to do if you can’t talk about jm
lmao if they’re an army having jm in their Spotify wrapped is literally the bare minimum he’s had releases to stream since January 🙄 y’all should just be quiet atp the laziness is indefensible so just keep it to yourselves
@gyuljimin
day in and day out every bitter solo of every member plus any fan of any kpop group dragging him through the mud and for WHAT just for everyone who came after to get all that and more and everyone who came before getting docs and re releases and im so fucking tired
@Bachelorhaters
chronology here is also fascinating and further proves it was just normal for them to look the other way when jm was getting r*pe and d*ath threats for like 7 years now as if no one was ever vile until pjms showed up on the scene when we had like 4 mass email things in 2018 alone
@thekmbasis
literally all in the comments like “lmao he’s gatekeeping nj” by…not allowing him to receive special praise? are we watching the same clip?
it’s always about jm bc tkkers will spontaneously combust if they critique the company’s preference for jk bc it undermines their fantasies so the only place acceptable to their moots to place the spotlight and low key the blame is on jm
it would be really cool if they would explain all the weird shit that’s gone on to us but they haven’t yet
i need army to stop pretending like we’ve gotten it all cleared up when we really really haven’t yeah you’re right it doesn’t make sense that’s why we need an explanation
@barbieluvsjimin
i was a dedicated army since spring day era and I have all the albums and streamed constantly but the doubts I started to have abt JM’s treatment in filter era were too big and obvious to ignore by face it was a real mask off time for the fandom and i left for only jm now
the thing is i don’t think army is aware of how consistently he’s like this bc they let this stuff slide while putting a microscope on the younger members i feel like there’s a thread every other day about the maknae line’s “behavior” but he gets to be like this with no pushback
@marvellyjimin
it is interesting to watch the kinds of things they’ll mass twt and report and trend protect hts over for other members that go ignored when it’s happening to jm. super interesting like it’s the most mild of “x member sucks” kinda shit and they freak out but for us it’s tuesday
i want to know why jm always gets dragged into these comparison posts when the resources granted to him vs jk are night and day but folks stay grouping them together like they got the same stuff which is uh,,,extremely wrong
@healtheworld271
He’s not underrated… he’s very popular and his music very loved by many, but he’s not hard promoted and pushed as jk /jimin because he refuses to be companys puppet . He always been brave n stay true to himself. And the company hates it.
@blondemins
it’s bc the most motivated members of army were jm biased working for all 7 but as the fandom revealed ugly jealous attitudes we are only jm focused now, so no one left is willing to put in the effort they’re all “shooter” accounts who cry all day trying to guilt/bully us back
some armies are so committed to shutting down any conversation about what Jimin had to endure from the industry and from his own company they really get stirred up whenever ppl point out his circumstances are kinda fucked up look at them in the quotes/replies caping for this man
"Jimin was an interesting case. An attractive character and talented, but uncompleted. I was sceptical but the team members insisted that A CHARACTER LIKE JIMIN MUST BE IN THE TEAM. now that I think about it what if I was stubborn back then?"
Lmaoo🤣🤣
@thirteendoll
not that im in any way comparing myself to thee park jimin as a performer but it’s infuriating to watch his colleagues of a decade have little to no faith in his proven performance prowess and disciplined attention to detail
a whole comedy routine.
1) hs taught jm to dance where exactly
2) why didn’t hs dance during his solo era
3) that man has admitted to being cruel and vicious to all the boys and you’re propping his opinions up like they should be taken seriously
If jhope taught jimin and the rest how too dance different styles with versatility and admitted along with son seung deuk that jhope is the best dancer why do y’all choose too deny it and start unnecessary discourses dragging jhope for something jimin said himself ?? 🎤
@Noorjk977
@lushitaes
Playlisting is more important for song reach to GP. JK and JM got that benefit. Haegum peaked up the pace after tour. Only jk song and Jimin song are getting heavy playlisting. It's that effect. So sh..t up . u know how label wish to manipulate his career progression
@kooofacts
what does this have to do with you y’all can keep your zi*nist backing and album of leftover 2018 hooks I hope you enjoy the paid validation 😘 now be on your way
i ain’t ever heard androgyny be a thing jjks liked about jk until this exact moment i thought y’all were all about him being a manly man who mans everywhere so this is news to me
also it’s a meme. relax.
@jmscherry_
Nah cause we not gon sit here and bow down to Jimin like he’s some god I love him support him but ya’ll acting like he’s Jesus or whatever pfft
nothing against J*min but this is also why I do not include any of his songs in my streams. (at least not until Sept. is over.) sorry. I do not want to "help" them succeed in their dirty tactics. I will only focus on Kim Taehyung.
when i went in LA earlier this year it was fully a struggle to find chimmy items bc in any desirable bt21 merch chimmy was mostly sold out and one of the associates sympathetically told me he’s always sold out so the gangnam store must have adjusted stock orders with that in mind
In Korea for Jimtober and at the Line Store in Gangnam, I realised just how much things have changed since I was last here in end-2019.
Back then, the entire store was full of BT21 items, both levels. Yes, Chimmy was popular then but there was demand for all BT21 characters.
"he's a musician who don't need a group of producers to do most of the work" imagine dragging jimin who actually worked on his music only to have your fave need a group of producers to do all the work
@ijbollingg
they’re like sharks if they stop swimming (complaining about jm’s good behavior) they’ll notice their fave’s,,,,lack of good behavior, sink to the bottom and die
@barbieluvsjimin
no but honestly I was jm biased in that fandom since 2016 and I didn’t even know about the crazy amount his solo tracks sold until like 2022 no one talks about it
@ChaosGodJimin
@jiminmochipower
it’s a vid, the part where he talks about how they didn’t interact for six months is at 3:10 ish
There’s a lot of very tough stuff in this interview even tho they’re trying to frame it lighthearted
@GCFTokyo1108
the funniest part is like,,,making it addressed to JM like he had anything to do with the existence of GCFt it’s like,,,direct your comments to the creator honey but also don’t and please take a deep breath and ease off the gas
this is just like those people writing thinkpieces about jm going to support each of the boys but have no smoke whatsoever for the members who never made a peep or lifted a finger for each other like y’all just talk just to talk about jm atp i know you’re bored otherwise
wait you follow MURI??? the person who sets jk up on a daily basis by dming bl*nks and harassing journalists??? ain’t no fucking way ain’t no fucking way you’re bold enough to speak on us get the actual fuck out of here
“Pjms are so meeeeean” *follows muri* im fucking crying 😂